Men on dating ts women

[Wendy Summers]

well, it seems that a majority of the female transsexual population are hookers (or have been hookers at some point) so it's almost normal at this point.

On here? Maybe. I can only think of a handful of us posting here who do/ have not.

But in the broader world outside of HA... I'd say no.

[SunshyneMonroe]

well, it seems that a majority of the female transsexual population are hookers (or have been hookers at some point) so it's almost normal at this point..

Lol you think this due too backpage and porn there is a big world out there Hun no....most ts don't hook only the smart ones :)

[Nicole Dupre]

Just wanted to point out, Kelly acknowledges the existence of chasers to some degree. She just doesn't call them "chasers".

Yes. "Yada yada" and more "yadas"...

No Nicole in almost every post you made about chasers you said oh they have to pay for it yadda yadda yadda...and if they don't feel they need to pay for it..their labeled a chaser...

That's what I was responding to.

I honestly never knew what a chaser was till I got into the porn world...

I just called them hard up guys that I dismissed..

Like when I went to the ts clubs in LA it was just weird to me and freaked me out.

They look at you like they are looking through a microscope..

I just thought they were horny guys - cause I feel the same way when I go to straight clubs but less



And oooooh, the irony...


Personally, I'm tired of men refusing to be seen in public with me or refusing to treat me right. Or when guys string you along and then vanish, that gets old. MY views on men is mostly negative, I'm not an escort, but I feel like it just to take that power back :)



And here's my first post in this thread. I didn't think it was such a "bullying" "twisted" comment. But I will wear my crown as a ruthless cunt and "dragon" with pride. lol


When I consider someone my BF, I spend lots of time with him. It can be a bit smothering but that's how I like it, as long as neither of us is doing it out of sexual convenience. The emotional stuff has to be there. In fact I don't even consider it to be a real relationship unless I've cried in front of him or we've had an argument or 2. But that's me. When guys want long distance romances, I have to laugh. If they don't want to spend most of their free time with me, why are we even bothering to date more than once? My BF's have been my companions. Having sex was only part of it. There's no way a guy can be a chaser, if you live with him, and you don't know he's a chaser. I agree with the OP to a degree, but there really are lots of tranny chasers out there. GGs have their version of a tranny chaser, except they call them DOGS. I don't go to clubs to weed through the dogs. I go to clubs to have fun, if I go at all. The guys I've connected with have had little or no experience with transsexuals. They dated me in spite of my being a TS instead of because I was a TS. But guys like that are rare and hard to find. Being a sex worker makes it even harder. But I genuinely love men. I don't need my ass kissed,. And I like guys who are somewhat bad boys, but with good hearts

But I'm not kidding myself. Most guys who are obsessive about porn are not dating or husband material. I don't hold it against a guy for checking it out now and then, just not every day. Cock thirsty gay guys and gay male couples watch a lot of porn together. Hetero couples don't do it as much.




Well, I'm going to impale some kittens with my stiletto heels now and tie some blind cripple children's shoelaces together. My work as an evil, bullying cunt is never done.

[bluesoul]

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Lol you think this due too backpage and porn there is a big world out there Hun no....most ts don't hook only the smart ones :)

i was talking about the references in this thread

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[tsadriana]

In the end everyones AMERICAN DREAM ,from what ive read in here deffo not for me .imao

[Prinzipe]

I would make a TS my girlfriend I swear

[tsadriana]

Well i was so quiet and reading and reading and reading and being shocked and feking reading...Guess what i thought transexuals from UK are worse but USA is top of the list.What the fuck is going on?What is with ive done it and u dint done it?What the hell is with im beautiful more the u are?What the hell i got a car and u aint?People we talk about here in dating ts women not what we got in our bag.....i dont give a shit someone looks 10 times better the i look.Looks is shit if the personaity is zero ....fuck hell till when?And in the end men in here act exactly like girls ....

[KittyPride]

Giovanni wrote:

""IMO women are responsible for how men treat them; a guy will be as much of a loser with a female as he's allowed to be.""

Hahaha how immature !!! Blaming your girlfriend for your behavior ! What a loser you are hahaha god...barf !!!!

[lifeisfiction]

My point was dating men or women is complicated just in different ways.

This is why I want to find a good married couple to date... #bestofbothworlds... :fuckin::fuckin:

Now that throws a monkey wrench. I have 3 wives already and the family vote was no new wives for the next few years. My market is getting more and more smaller. Sigh.

[tsadriana]

So comne on girls u talk about being transexual women ,but u act like a feking man .

[EvonRose]

The thing is we are accused of the ones being negative, But the thing is I don't think we said anything wrong at all...

Kelly Had her thoughts...

I put in my thoughts....

But I guess i'm not allowed to have an opinion, yet again...

I think filtering out men and wanting the best intentions, is a healthy way to build a foundation in a relationship. In reality ts or gg just don't want to be objectified in that sense...

[tsadriana]

The thing is we are accused of the ones being negative, But the thing is I don't think we said anything wrong at all...

Kelly Had her thoughts...

I put in my thoughts....

But I guess i'm not allowed to have an opinion, yet again...
Evon ur very atractive woman ,i never thought or think that ur ts but i espect ur beautiful brain to be the same ...i like u girl...one advice dont answer to provocations....dont waste ur beauty in such a none important issues...

[giovanni_hotel]

Giovanni wrote:

""IMO women are responsible for how men treat them; a guy will be as much of a loser with a female as he's allowed to be.""

Hahaha how immature !!! Blaming your girlfriend for your behavior ! What a loser you are hahaha god...barf !!!!

Every person has agency and control over their OWN lives.

If you stay with a man who beats you, or steals money from you, or calls you stupid and ugly on the daily, yes he's an asshole.

But it's YOUR fault for sticking around and putting up with that shit.

Tolerating shit behavior is the fault of the person on the receiving end.
Being an asshole is no one's fault but that individual who's just being themselves.

You're dropping 'barf' and calling me immature??

Grow up, superhero.
Put down the comic books and up your reading comprehension.

[tsadriana]

So girls as much as u pose as the stunning good ones example for others girls from what ive read it in here the new ones will hav fears and doubts.

[EvonRose]

Evon ur very atractive woman ,i never thought or think that ur ts but i espect ur beautiful brain to be the same ...i like u girl...one advice dont answer to provocations....dont waste ur beauty in such a none important issues...

Thank you... i like you too... I just hate when I make a comment and then people are so angry...

But hey it's hung angels....

[tsadriana]

Thank you... i like you too... I just hate when I make a comment and then people are so angry...

But hey it's hung angels....
No orries me alma i have for men to someting to say .

[tsadriana]

And from what i concern men u are n the same boat with us ,if it would be to choose to meet a man from here the rezults would be zero.U can be fit if ur brain it sucks

[tsadriana]

Thank you... i like you too... I just hate when I make a comment and then people are so angry...

But hey it's hung angels....
People who gets so easy angry ,they have serious
issues with themself and they can`t deal with others people issues.

[Nicole Dupre]

The thing is we are accused of the ones being negative, But the thing is I don't think we said anything wrong at all...

Kelly Had her thoughts...

I put in my thoughts....

But I guess i'm not allowed to have an opinion, yet again...

I think filtering out men and wanting the best intentions, is a healthy way to build a foundation in a relationship. In reality ts or gg just don't want to be objectified in that sense...
I know. Kelly starts a thread bitching about other transsexuals who bitch about men, yet she wants everything to go smoothly and to be on her terms. But there are all these taboo subjects, that there are literally dozens of pages with her arguing over, which she wanted to left out. lol

And Ashley, who I've heard more horribly negative things about Kelly from than anyone else on this forum, next to Jasmine, when I wasn't even asking her, is coming unglued on me now. Uhhhh yeah... lol

This is why I don't trust transsexuals who do porn.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I know. Kelly starts a thread bitching about other transsexuals who bitch about men, yet she wants everything to go smoothly and to be on her terms. But there are all these taboo subjects, that there are dozens of pages of her arguing over, which she wanted to left out. lol

And Ashley, who I've heard more horribly negative things about Kelly from than anyone else on this forum, next to Jasmine, when I wasn't even asking her, is coming unglued on me now. Uhhhh yeah... lol

This is why I don't trust transsexuals who do porn.I enjoyed Evon and yours debate..Nicole..you are the one that brought in personal feelings and low blows...that didn't pertain to the topic..

So that's all on you...

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole..you are the one that brought in personal feelings and low blows...that didn't pertain to the topic..

So that's all on you...
Which were?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Which were?
About Chicago drama - Isa Drama - And now Ashley Drama

It had nothing to do with anything...

I didn't hate on anyones looks - anyone in general

I just said the majority and thoughts...

And I can name dozens who can say this is all true..including other transsexuals..not just men.

[EvonRose]

Well it did start out smoothly, and we were all respectable towards each other...

It's when I said I prefer not to be with chasers, because I feel objectified by them, then Kelly said i sounded jaded.

Then wendy gave her opinions about privileged girls, then I commented back then Kelly called me delusional.

Of course it's not a good feeling to feel like I'm being attacked on my comments since no one attacked her from the beginning.

So I don't know, maybe my biggest fault was retaliating back, but other than that i don't think said anything bad...

[Nicole Dupre]

About Chicago drama - Isa Drama - And now Ashley Drama

It had nothing to do with anything...

I didn't hate on anyones looks - anyone in general

I just said the majority and thoughts...

And I can name dozens who can say this is all true..including other transsexuals..not just men.
Well then they need to shut their mouths if they want to be on good terms with you. You know that you and I were somewhat friendly online until they bombarded me with heaping doses of negativity revolving around you.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Well it did start out smoothly, and we were all respectable towards each other...

It's when I said I prefer not to be with chasers, because I feel objectified by them, then Kelly said i sounded jaded.

Then wendy gave her opinions about privileged girls, then I commented back then Kelly called me delusional.

Of course it's not a good feeling to feel like I'm being attacked on my comments since no one attacked her from the beginning.

So I don't know, maybe my biggest fault was retaliating back, but other than that i don't think said anything bad... You attacked my age and looks multiple times and my quote "new face"

I didn't attack you personally - I attacked your contradiction - and your writings on this forum..

[tsadriana]

One thing in my book : if i have 2 best friends ts and they argue with each other ,i will not take sides and i will love them in the same way but i will try to save my friends for killing with each other in words or fight ...pmsl ...i love u girls ur so beautiful but sometimes so stuppid acting ....u all look good ...why u care what other next to u does?

[EvonRose]

You attacked my age and looks multiple times and my quote "new face"

I didn't attack you personally - I attacked your contradiction - and your writings on this forum..

mg Kelly i would never had attacked you if you didn't say I was delusional, or negative, or jade...

FYI I never said anything bad about you face.... i just stated your new face.

Attacking my personality for my taste in men, is a bit moronic... it's an attack Kelly..

[SunshyneMonroe]

wow lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

Well then they need to shut their mouths if they want to be on good terms with you. You know that you and I were somewhat friendly online until they bombarded me with heaping doses of negativity revolving around you.
Why should their opinion change your opinion of another if it has nothing to do with you.

It didn't affect your life or you as a person...

Should I hate everyone Foxxy hates or everyone Jesse hates or anyone my best friend hates...

I have two best friends that hate each other, but I refuse to be put in the middle and they respect that. The two have never met each other face to face which is just weird, but they take jabs at each other every chance they can get on facebook. Actually just today on a pic of mine that says one is my best friend forever..and the funny thing is both of their names are Jessica

Jasmine also spoke loads about Ryder after she left the company, but Ryder from what I can see is one awesome chick.

As well as Madison Montag, I know Madison has a lot of faults I'm just saying that her and Sarina seem to get on fine..just some people are not destined to get along..

But I don't jump on band wagons of hate or change my opinion of another person if I personally have never met them or spoke to them.

I really have never got into the character hate of another person, especially when it isn't hard to recognize one person is just a negative person...not talking about you...

I've seen this person make girls cry for berating them or make them feel bad a numerous of times. This person has a destructive personality, but is great in the beginning. That's all I will say on that..

[MrsKellyPierce]

mg Kelly i would never had attacked you if you didn't say I was delusional, or negative, or jade...

FYI I never said anything bad about you face.... i just stated your new face.

Attacking my personality for my taste in men, is a bit moronic... it's an attack Kelly..
I didn't attack your taste in men - I attacked what you were saying.

The way you defined a transsexual "chaser" and how you have this holier than thou complex over the LGBT..

You come across like you are better than a gay person or a bi person

I just never understood transsexuals throwing stones at gays so much..

Or the men on here that throw stones at gay guys..it's like umm you suck dick darling...you fuck the same way a guy guy fucks when you are with a transsexual..

Just so much hate goes on

[tsadriana]

Kelly ,Evon,Nicole i feel heat tonight why we just dont drink some cold drink girls ,will refresh us xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[allurstouse]

shit my face was in my avator there is no syhame in my game I could give two cents who sees me with whomever. I hang out with people I like not to impress others and certainly wouldn't avoid being seen with someone because of what others thought. Honestly how mascul9ine is cowardice and fear????

I asked someone to dinner today because of a misconception people wouldnt unless it was for sex. As strange as it sounds I decided to swear off casual sex and escorts...probably till I am propositioned but I am a guy.... I have no interest in hercules does nothing for me. Dick is ok but you cankeep the rest of the package i'd far rather have soft and smooth to mthe touch.

Someone can call me whatever they like it won't define me. I kind of feel that way about the whole chaser thng. I am unfamilar but seriosuly they are who they are. I am glad i am not running around clubs fawning over people who have no interest in me. There doesn't sound like anything sadder to me.

I like porn and at times have liked it a bit to much. I did watch it with my wife and have watched it with cis gf before. it was kind of a goofy expeience. i'd rather have sex than watch porn and the tape yes it was that long ago came out fast....just random thoughts on a massive thread

My favorite thing in the world is my penis... any guy that says otherwise is a liar imo

[EvonRose]

I didn't attack your taste in men - I attacked what you were saying.

The way you defined a transsexual "chaser" and how you have this holier than thou complex over the LGBT..

You come across like you are better than a gay person or a bi person

I just never understood transsexuals throwing stones at gays so much..

Omg are you a crack addict?

Where did I say anything about gays or bi? in a negative form? Mt whole point of my post was to allow ts the right to filter out the men without people like you making us the bad people.

I gave nothing but what I thought was a chaser, I never said they were bad people either.

I have said nothing to you till you said i was bitter, cold, jaded, delusional...
So please get your facts straight....

Just because i choose not to date Bi men or chasers It doesn't mean I hate them... What are you gonna do force me to have sex and date them?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Omg are you a crack addict?

Where did I say anything about gays or bi? in a negative form? Mt whole point of my post was to allow ts the right to filter out the men without people like you making us the bad people.

I gave nothing but what I thought was a chaser, I never said they were bad people either.

I have said nothing to you till you said i was bitter, cold, jaded, delusional...
So please get your facts straight....

Just because i choose not to date Bi men or chasers It doesn't mean I hate them... What are you gonna do force me to have sex and date them?Three times you said maybe you never knew what it's like to be with a straight guy...

I've gone to plenty of straight clubs and know exactly what it's like..

I used to trick frat boys when I was 18 and they dated me - there was one I dated a few months - and I saw him a few years ago and I was scared to death cause I thought maybe he would know now from porn.

I didn't assume or hate on you once...

I went on what you wrote only...

You my dear play the victim card, when there is no reason to play it.

[EvonRose]

Three times you said maybe you never knew what it's like to be with a straight guy...

I've gone to plenty of straight clubs and know exactly what it's like..

I used to trick frat boys when I was 18 and they dated me - there was one I dated a few months - and I saw him a few years ago and I was scared to death cause I thought maybe he would know now from porn.

I didn't assume or hate on you once...

I went on what you wrote only...

You my dear play the victim card, when there is no reason to play it.

maybe is an assumption... That leaves room for you to validate...

I don't care what kind of clubs you go to, I don't care about who you date.

You said I was bitter because I choose not to date men who just likes sex, or look at me as some she male fetish.

Just because your okay being a she male, or dating a bisexual guy, or being in open relationships or being an exhibitionist, It does not mean I am... We clearly don't have the same standards in men, so that's safe to assume. But no one is making you the bad person just because you choose to date these men... So why are you attacking us?

[Nicole Dupre]

Why should their opinion change your opinion of another if it has nothing to do with you.

It didn't affect your life or you as a person...

Should I hate everyone Foxxy hates or everyone Jesse hates or anyone my best friend hates...

I have two best friends that hate each other, but I refuse to be put in the middle and they respect that. The two have never met each other face to face which is just weird, but they take jabs at each other every chance they can get on facebook. Actually just today on a pic of mine that says one is my best friend forever..and the funny thing is both of their names are Jessica

Jasmine also spoke loads about Ryder after she left the company, but Ryder from what I can see is one awesome chick.

As well as Madison Montag, I know Madison has a lot of faults I'm just saying that her and Sarina seem to get on fine..just some people are not destined to get along..

But I don't jump on band wagons of hate or change my opinion of another person if I personally have never met them or spoke to them.

I really have never got into the character hate of another person, especially when it isn't hard to recognize one person is just a negative person...not talking about you...

I've seen this person make girls cry for berating them or make them feel bad a numerous of times. This person has a destructive personality, but is great in the beginning. That's all I will say on that..
It seems that Jasmine speaks negatively about everyone, except for maybe Isa, Mandy, and Danielle. And I do mean EVERYONE. lol

Look, Kelly. Initially, I never attacked you here. It only got ugly when you accused me of "stirring". So that's when I "stirred" a little. Before that, I was just talking. You must not have been paying such close attention if you thought I was asking for donations from chasers. lol And I admitted that I misunderstood you about you and your BF turning couples. I still don't like the idea of my man sucking a guys dick, but I don't care what you two do. Is that ok? Can I say that? Wtf? Do I have to date a gay male porn star to ease you conscience? lol

And if you remember correctly, I didn't say a peep until you accused me labeling every guy a chaser and that I'm a "poster child" for any of this bullshit. I'm just talking about MY LIFE. Re-read the posts. I just said that imo there are chasers and there are admirers, and that there's a difference. End of story.

[MrsKellyPierce]

maybe is an assumption... That leaves room for you to validate...

I don't care what kind of clubs you go to, I don't care about who you date.

You said I was bitter because I choose not to date men who just likes sex, or look at me as some she male fetish.

Just because your okay being a she male, or dating a bisexual guy, or being in open relationships or being an exhibitionist, It does not mean I am... We clearly don't have the same standards in me, so that's safe to assume. But no one i making you the bad person just because you choose to date these men... So why are you attacking us?
NO I DID NOT

I said you were bitter from what you wrote!

It wasn't about who you want to date..it's how you worded it..

OMG..you are like talking to a brickwall

[MrsKellyPierce]

It seems that Jasmine speaks negatively about everyone, except for maybe Isa, Mandy, and Danielle. And I do mean EVERYONE. lol

Look, Kelly. Initially, I never attacked you here. It only got ugly when you accused me of "stirring". So that's when I "stirred" a little. Before that, I was just talking. You must not have been paying such close attention if you thought I was asking for donations from chasers. lol And I admitted that I misunderstood you about you and your BF turning couples. I still don't like the idea of my man sucking a guys dick, but I don't care what you two do. Is that ok? Can I say that? Wtf? Do I have to date a gay male porn star to ease you conscience? lol

And if you remember correctly, I didn't say a peep until you accused me labeling every guy a chaser and that I'm a "poster child" for any of this bullshit. I'm just talking about MY LIFE. Re-read the posts. I just said that imo there are chasers and there are admirers, and that there's a difference. End of story.Then I apologize, as I stated I've liked you off the board from talking in the chatrooms..

[Nicole Dupre]

Then I apologize, as I stated I've liked you off the board from talking in the chatrooms..
Apology accepted.

[EvonRose]

"Were you not the one who said it's our fault that we don't carry signs saying we don't like our dick? As if it's our fault for being born this way?

Or said we are incapable of a meaningful relationship because we are escorts? Just because it was our only financial stability?

It's safe to say your ignorant of our lifestyle and just an admirer who does not know squat, and a sexist at that! I mean the statements above are quite cold too, so why am I the cold one?

If you stick to the topic like all of us are doing the topic was the dislike of chaser, I gave the reasons. I am not going to respect a chaser who jacks off to tranny cock then comes on here and belittle ts women not his forum, or contact us, hit on us, talk to us with hidden agendas due to their sexual fantasy of cock, I refuse to be looked at as a disposable thing because they are ashamed of their sexuality. The only true victims here are the ts that fall for their scams..."

This is bitterness to you? Because I feel that having a meaningful relationship with a man is healthier than Being with someone who only sees you as a fetish? this was the quote you said I was bitter to...

Then You stated I was jaded after this, I have not attacked you as of yet. Till you went on about your degrees and your life in a 2,500 population town, about how you were sheltered... then Wendy said the same, and I made a comment about my family, that you said I was delusional... How am I not suppose to take this as an attack?

[tsadriana]

Nicole ,Kelly,EVON CALL ME LESBIAN I LOVE U ALL THREE .Strong girls ,difrete opinons but lovely at the tmes.

[MrsKellyPierce]

"Were you not the one who said it's our fault that we don't carry signs saying we don't like our dick? As if it's our fault for being born this way?

Or said we are incapable of a meaningful relationship because we are escorts? Just because it was our only financial stability?

It's safe to say your ignorant of our lifestyle and just an admirer who does not know squat, and a sexist at that! I mean the statements above are quite cold too, so why am I the cold one?

If you stick to the topic like all of us are doing the topic was the dislike of chaser, I gave the reasons. I am not going to respect a chaser who jacks off to tranny cock then comes on here and belittle ts women not his forum, or contact us, hit on us, talk to us with hidden agendas due to their sexual fantasy of cock, I refuse to be looked at as a disposable thing because they are ashamed of their sexuality. The only true victims here are the ts that fall for their scams..."

This is bitterness to you? Because I feel that having a meaningful relationship with a man is healthier than Being with someone who only sees you as a fetish? this was the quote you said I was bitter to...

Then You stated I was jaded after this, I have not attacked you as of yet. Till you went on about your degrees and your life in a 2,500 population town, about how you were sheltered... then Wendy said the same, and I made a comment about my family, that you said I was delusional... How am I not suppose to take this as an attack?
No I did not say that - that's your interpretation..

What I did say is girls are their own worse enemies...

I did say girls are enablers on how men treat them...

I did say girls need counseling...

I did say men in general will chase for sex regardless...

I did say that if you do transseuxal porn and are against the word "shemale" why pose for sites who use the terminology... it comes with the territory. I see girls go off on guys who use it that don't know any better. I see girls go after companies who use it, yet their face and ass is plastered all over the site. I said it's hypocritical...

I did say girls vilify men unfairly....and the word tranny chaser is used way too much...

I said a lot...but I never said what you took from it..

Oh and on the escort thing...I said don't be surprised MOST men wont be able to accept it. They just wont..and that's why they'd choose a woman over a transsexual..That's why they wouldn't take you seriously...A majority of men can't deal with it...The ones that do are usually sex workers themselves or typically are just with the girl cause he has no self esteem and wants to hang on to her no matter what..

As you saw there I used majority/a lot/most/ - I never use all/everyone/everybody..

It's just common fact

[EvonRose]

No I did not say that - that's your interpretation..

What I did say is girls are their own worse enemies...

I did say girls are enablers on how men treat them...

I did say girls need counseling...

I did say men in general will chase for sex regardless...

I did say that if you do transseuxal porn and are against the word "shemale" why pose for sites who use the terminology... it comes with the territory. I see girls go off on guys who use it that don't know any better. I see girls go after companies who use it, yet their face and ass is plastered all over the site. I said it's hypocritical...

I did say girls vilify men unfairly....and the word tranny chaser is used way too much...

I said a lot...but I never said what you took from it..

Oh no sweetie, this was a reply to another man posting, but you made a comment saying I was bitter...

I also remember stating i agree with you in your view of some of the ts women.. Me and Nicole both...

So there was no need for you to attack me on anything just because i don't like the men you date...

[MrsKellyPierce]

And honestly girls are just more crafty with men than transsexuals...

There are some smart gold diggers out there that I would consider escorts...

I never understood why more girls just don't go this route..

I know a few that do and are bought houses and cars and surgeries..

Sugardaddy.com girls lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

Oh no sweetie, this was a reply to another man posting, but you made a comment saying I was bitter...

I also remember stating i agree with you in your view of some of the ts women.. Me and Nicole both...

So there was no need for you to attack me on anything just because i don't like the men you date...
The men I date..only one of the guys I've dated has been bisexual..

The rest all went back to women and now are married...

This relationship I am in now is the most honest and best relationship I've been in...

that's why we have been together four years and going strong..

[EvonRose]

The men I date..only one of the guys I've dated has been bisexual..

The rest all went back to women and now are married...

This relationship I am in now is the most honest and best relationship I've been in...

that's why we have been together four years and going strong..

I'm happy for you... but What works for me is the opposite... I have at first dated chasers, but am happy with a straight man.

my dad wanted to arrange my marriage for me back in Asia had many straight men willing to take that position. But my mom didn't support the idea, and that's why we moved here... I am more comfortable with the idea of being with a straight man.

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

I think this is all laughable..men fetish over women just as much as transsexuals...

Younger females - big boob females - big butt females...etc

I think girls allow themselves to be treated the way they get treated...

Oh poor me...this guy is only into me cause I have a penis....

No sweetheart he is into you cause he thinks your hot and yes you have a penis..

Just like he thinks a girl is hot and omg she has a pussy...wow..what a concept..

Of course men think of sex...and of course a man will sleep with you if you offer it to him on the first night..

And of course many men wants to get laid without any strings...

Does that mean he has to pay for it..NO..he can be honest..and the transsexual has the right to say oh sorry not my thing to sleep with a guy on the first night maybe we can go on dates or something or sorry honey my ass is only for money...

But girls really make this so complicated and so comical...

Thank you.

You seem to be one of the few women of reason on this site. So guys just ignore the other hypocrites.

If there was ever a woman a man should avoid it should be them. You can't reason with them or level with them.

So disregard all the bullshit. They are "PROSTITUES" who want to be treated like nuns because they're all sex'ed out once you've encountered them.

There's nothing wrong with your sex drive or sexual preference. There's plenty of TS out there who aren't ashamed of their dix and don't mind using them.

So to sit here and listening to girls demonize guys yet want people to respect their situation is retarded.

So Kelly, I understand that you're happily in a long term relation. Well level headed, down to earth women like yourself should be.

That is all.

[FreddieGomez]

kelly. I'm a fan

[amberskyi]

This thread is a but ridiculous now.....girls they are not interested in how we feel unless it verifies their fantasies so let's stop trying..it's beyond redundant now

[amberskyi]

kelly. I'm a fan

Suck my cock

[FreddieGomez]

suck my cock

the thirst

[amberskyi]

the thirst

I don't find black men attractive

[Nicole Dupre]

Thank you.

You seem to be one of the few women of reason on this site. So guys just ignore the other hypocrites.

If there was ever a woman a man should avoid it should be them. You can't reason with them or level with them.

So disregard all the bullshit. They are "PROSTITUES" who want to be treated like nuns because they're all sex'ed out once you've encountered them.

There's nothing wrong with your sex drive or sexual preference. There's plenty of TS out there who aren't ashamed of their dix and don't mind using them.

So to sit here and listening to girls demonize guys yet want people to respect their situation is retarded.

So Kelly, I understand that you're happily in a long term relation. Well level headed, down to earth women like yourself should be.

That is all.
Who's demonizing guys? Guys have their ploys and women have their defenses for those ploys. That's nothing new. Escorting and tricks are supply and demand. The market will bear what it bears. Escorts don't date guys who live with their moms and flip burgers. Sorry. lol

But are you saying all escorts and porn should be free, or that we think we're nuns? Get McReal, McThirsty. lol

[FreddieGomez]

I don't find black men attractive

ok.

good nite

[robertlouis]

This thread is a but ridiculous now.....girls they are not interested in how we feel unless it verifies their fantasies so let's stop trying..it's beyond redundant now

:iagree::iagree::iagree: Bang on target, Amber.

[Nicole Dupre]

This thread is a but ridiculous now.....girls they are not interested in how we feel unless it verifies their fantasies so let's stop trying..it's beyond redundant now
Maybe we should pay them. ;-) lol

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

There's about 2 or 3 hookers posting on this thread who think their word is Tranny law.

IT'S NOT!!!

One out of the 3 has a pimp and the other two just sound like bitter lonely idiots.

I heard terms like freaks, tranny chasers, chubby chasers, and even "gorilla heads" all by one individual but to be label as a shemale is a travesty?

Guys once again look between the lines, I'm personally done talking out right to them since in they make no since anyway.

The don't speak for all tgirls because a tgirl with a PHD doesn't sell herself for money and generally despise the ones who do.

This isn't about "Freebies" I personally couldn't stand to eat next to some of you, let alone get physical which should put that chasers will fuck anything BS to rest.

Beside I don't beg for sex, trannies call me!

[EvonRose]

There's about 2 or 3 hookers posting on this thread who think their word is Tranny law.

IT'S NOT!!!

One out of the 3 has a pimp and the other two just sound like bitter lonely idiots.

I heard terms like freaks, tranny chasers, chubby chasers, and even "gorilla heads" all by one individual but to be label as a shemale is a travesty?

Guys once again look between the lines, I'm personally done talking out right to them since in they make no since anyway.

The don't speak for all tgirls because a tgirl with a PHD doesn't sell herself for money and generally despise the ones who do.

This isn't about "Freebies" I personally couldn't stand to eat next to some of you, let alone get physically which should put that chasers will fuck anything BS to rest.

Beside I don't beg for sex, trannies call me!

Well we wouldn't want to be with you either, so it's kinda mutual...

no one here has a pimp.... Maybe you need one.

Bugs me how ts get so much hate for stating an opinion, but guys like this get away with saying this?

So like I said the label, name calling thing goes both ways, and why many ts are jaded by men like this.

[Jericho]

Maybe we should pay them. ;-) lol

Ladies, my account details are...! :hide-1:

[amberskyi]

There's about 2 or 3 hookers posting on this thread who think their word is Tranny law.

IT'S NOT!!!

One out of the 3 has a pimp and the other two just sound like bitter lonely idiots.

I heard terms like freaks, tranny chasers, chubby chasers, and even "gorilla heads" all by one individual but to be label as a shemale is a travesty?

Guys once again look between the lines, I'm personally done talking out right to them since in they make no since anyway.

The don't speak for all tgirls because a tgirl with a PHD doesn't sell herself for money and generally despise the ones who do.

This isn't about "Freebies" I personally couldn't stand to eat next to some of you, let alone get physical which should put that chasers will fuck anything BS to rest.

Beside I don't beg for sex, trannies call me!

it always tickles me to pieces when guys come on a PORN forum talking about the girls in the industry in a negative light.
who really makes SENSE,the girl who gets her point across without name calling or the "man" who has to resort to that.....

[muh_muh]

the girl who gets her point across without name calling

how often does that happen exactly?

[amberskyi]

how often does that happen exactly?

**raises hand** :whistle:

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

Well we wouldn't want to be with you either, so it's kinda mutual...

no one here has a pimp.... Maybe you need one.

Bugs me how ts get so much hate for stating an opinion, but guys like this get away with saying this?

So like I said the label, name calling thing goes both ways, and why many ts are jaded by men like this.

BLAH, BLAH BLAH!

I heard you girls in here calling guys alcoholics and fags when it wasn't even warranted... So just cut the crap.

You and that other chick come off having nasty attitudes so you attract what you resonate. Plan and simple.

So clarify I am taking to "YOU" and not the entire TS community. Because despite all your efforts not every tgirl believes in that fetish nonsense.

And stop trying to make this into a democracy. Majority doesn't rule over your life so why try those antics with me?

My task here wasn't to get a freebie or to condone treating people like crap to satisfy lust. It was to simply proof that "you" are full of shit.

And I didn't have to try hard to achieve that goal.

Good night and good riddance. LOL!

[MrsKellyPierce]

it always tickles me to pieces when guys come on a PORN forum talking about the girls in the industry in a negative light.
who really makes SENSE,the girl who gets her point across without name calling or the "man" who has to resort to that.....
Amber it always kills me girls who make their living off these men...degrade the mouth that feeds them..


The same point can be made on both sides..

[EvonRose]

BLAH, BLAH BLAH!

I heard you girls in here calling guys alcoholics and fags when it wasn't even warranted... So just cut the crap.

You and that other chick come off having nasty attitudes so you attract what you resonate. Plan and simple.

So clarify I am taking to "YOU" and not the entire TS community. Because despite all your efforts not every tgirl believes in that fetish nonsense.

And stop trying to make this into a democracy. Majority doesn't rule over your life so why try those antics with me?

My task here wasn't to get a freebie or to condone treating people like crap to satisfy lust. It was to simply proof that "you" are full of shit.

And I didn't have to try hard to achieve that goal.

Good night and good riddance. LOL!

Nope never called anyone alcoholics, or fags... I don't use this term...

Wow you are one angry mofo, I guess not everyone has a good father to look up to....

[Nicole Dupre]

You make no since! Plan and simple! It was to simply proof "you" are full of poo-poo! Trannies call ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

And don't fucking call me "gorilla head"!!!!!!!!!!

lol

[amberskyi]

Amber it always kills me girls who make their living off these men...degrade the mouth that feeds them..


The same point can be made on both sides..

i totally somewhat agree with you (i try to refrain from name calling) but to deny that SOME men are chasers is a bit naive....
ps...im sorry but i feed myself...we dont owe these men a damn thing more than a great fantasy and experience....

[lifeisfiction]

This thread is still going. I have discover that all the hot threads on HA are on dating. Arguments on arguments. If I didn't know HA or been here through all the drama threads I would assume that men are the most evil people in the world and only deserve to be treated that way. The negativity somedays is really high. You can't say your positive and 85% of your posts is negative. And the need to self-promote (not in a business way) is so off putting it saddens me. I mean I am sure many of the people on HA are nice as they claim, but the bashing is so contrary to each other. Everyone is right and no one is wrong. Still I am confused, I don't hear gg saying to a less attractive woman, since she is not as pretty as I am she is not women. I really expected more from many of the transgender posters on HA.

[MrsKellyPierce]

i totally somewhat agree with you (i try to refrain from name calling) but to deny that SOME men are chasers is a bit naive....
ps...im sorry but i feed myself...we dont owe these men a damn thing more than a great fantasy and experience....
Oh I never said that some are low down dogs...

But I did say we as trans-women use that term way to often when it's not even remotely true on so many who get labeled it.

Some of these men I would like to hang from a wire and beat them with a riding crop...

I really think a lot of women/trans are where too many of these men get their egos from..

If more women were honest with a mans lovemaking skills he may not be such an asshole..

Women enable this behavior constantly - lying about how big it is - saying oh yes you are the best lover in the world...

And then they spread their legs like butter and this guy thinks he is the "shiznit" so he goes around acting like he is the lover of all lovers

When half the time he can't last more than 5 minutes and he definitely ain't making any girl cum

[EvonRose]

Oh I never said that some are not low down dogs...

But I did say we as trans-women use that term way to often when it's not even remotely true on so many who get labeled it.

I am so confused.... this is exactly what I have been saying...

Again?

[robertlouis]

I am more comfortable with the idea of being with a straight man.

Hallelujah! I'll go pack a case. :dancing:

[amberskyi]

Oh I never said that some are low down dogs...

But I did say we as trans-women use that term way to often when it's not even remotely true on so many who get labeled it.

Some of these men I would like to hang from a wire and beat them with a riding crop...

I really think a lot of women/trans are where too many of these men get their egos from..

If more women were honest with a mans lovemaking skills he may not be such an asshole..

Women enable this behavior constantly - lying about how big it is - saying oh yes you are the best lover in the world...

And then they spread their legs like butter and this guy thinks he is the "shiznit" so he goes around acting like he is the lover of all lovers

When half the time he can't last more than 5 minutes and he definitely ain't making any girl cum


i keep giving what i think is a logical and fair definition of a chaser but everyone keeps ignoring it for girls who are giving the more inflammatory responses...i think the guys like feeling like victims :whistle:

[Tyler___Durden]

well, it seems that a majority of the female transsexual population are hookers (or have been hookers at some point) so it's almost normal at this point.
This is a porn site with an escort sub forum, which is why a high % of Ts here work / used to work in porn and or escorting.
Outside HA, only a tiny fraction of ts women have any involvement in any aspect of the sex industry.

But even though I've just stated these absolute facts,
I'd still like to post this quote, not for clarification or education,
but solely because it's quite funny!
The only available hot Transsexual's:
are escorts / were escorts / or will be escorts again in the future.
You get what you pay for in the Transsexual world.
....Otherwise you're just fucking a bloke who's wearing a wig.
FACT!

I really should grow up!

[lifeisfiction]

i keep giving what i think is a logical and fair definition of a chaser but everyone keeps ignoring it for girls who are giving the more inflammatory responses...i think the guys like feeling like victims :whistle:

The more controversial the statement, the more people pay attention to it. Thats why those comments gain such attention.

[robertlouis]

This is a porn site with an escort sub forum, which is why a high % of Ts here work / used to work in porn and or escorting.
Outside HA, only a tiny fraction of ts women have any involvement in any aspect of the sex industry.

But even though I've just stated these absolute facts,
I'd still like to post this quote, not for clarification or education,
but solely because it's quite funny!
The only available hot Transsexual's:
are escorts / were escorts / or will be escorts again in the future.
You get what you pay for in the Transsexual world.
....Otherwise you're just fucking a bloke who's wearing a wig.
FACT!

I really should grow up!

You're a cheeky little madam, Tyler, but I like you all the same. :wink:

And I agree entirely with your piece in bold above. Most of the transitioned girls I know live ordinary lives, working in various jobs and professions, none of them in porn. Bloody good for them.

[ed_jaxon]

did Kelly just say Shiznit???

[Tyler___Durden]

Oh and on the escort thing...I said don't be surprised MOST men wont be able to accept it. They just wont..and that's why they'd choose a woman over a transsexual..
Most {99%+} transsexual women have had zero involvement in porn / escorting.
To say otherwise is an unfair thing to say and just perpetuates stupid myths.
Ts women's main exposure in the media (= most peoples awareness of us)
is through porn, escort ads and jerry springer. This creates a false and slanted view amongst many of the general population.
And it also explains why many ts women detest ts porn stars and escorts - they are the ones who get the false label and have to spend time correcting strangers and friends.

Being in this industry has skewed your perceptions. IMHO.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Most {99%+} transsexual women have had zero involvement in porn / escorting.
To say otherwise is an unfair thing to say and just perpetuates stupid myths.
Ts women's main exposure in the media (= most peoples awareness of us)
is through porn, escort ads and jerry springer. This creates a false and slanted view amongst many of the general population.
And it also explains why many ts women detest ts porn stars and escorts - they are the ones who get the false label and have to spend time correcting strangers and friends.

Being in this industry has skewed your perceptions. IMHO.
Tyler the trans women I know who aren't in the sex industry don't treat men the way a girl in the sex industry do..

My statements were purely adult related...since this is an adult forum...

[MrsKellyPierce]

did Kelly just say Shiznit???
I did

[robertlouis]

I did

Gesundheit! :)

[Prospero]

This insane thread is too full of anger

[robertlouis]

This insane thread is too full of anger

It's not the only one....

[alyssaluxor]

this is all the fault of tranny chasers! lol

[catherinefan]

Some girls are perfectly happy having that little extra in their panties.......others are not!

Isn't that really what this whole argument is about?

[Tyler___Durden]

This insane thread is too full of anger

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............, oh I see what you mean. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/unsure.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Nicole Dupre]

Some girls are perfectly happy having that little extra in their panties.......others are not!

Isn't that really what this whole argument is about?
No, it's not. It's about how we react to the men trying to get into our panties.

[KittyPride]

This thread is a but ridiculous now.....girls they are not interested in how we feel unless it verifies their fantasies so let's stop trying..it's beyond redundant now

Most of them yes....
With a few exceptions....

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

Everyone is right and no one is wrong.
Some would say that I was wrong for indulging this thread to begin with.
But KellyShore does give this topic some honesty. And when she does comment most of the more opinionated Trannies seem to backtrack their words a little. Mind you that Kelly isn't saying anything in this thread that the more sensible guys haven't stated 10x's over.


I really expected more from many of the transgender posters on HA.Yeah and if you were on a date with one of them that basically sounds like you hinting at a "freebie". So consider your efforts for rationalization dismissed and just pull out your wallet...

[Nicole Dupre]

Some would say that I was wrong for indulging this thread to begin with.
But KellyShore does give this topic some honesty. And when she does comment most of the more opinionated Trannies seem to backtrack their words a little. Mind you that Kelly isn't saying anything in this thread that the more sensible guys haven't stated 10x's over.

Yeah and if you were on a date with one of them that basically sounds like you hinting at a "freebie". So consider your efforts for rationalization dismissed and just pull out your wallet...
What the hell are you talking about, Chase? Who's *backpeddling (*is the word you were looking for). Kelly's already apologized to me. And so far her biggest transsexual "supporter", Ashley, has an admittedly low opinion of her relationships with men. Kelly supposedly hasn't even an escorted for 4 years, so her opinion on who should be charged and who shouldn't be is a bit outdated. She has a monogamous relationship with a man who's bi-sexual. She's happy without guys like you in her life. I think, if anything, her point was that good guys are out there, and the proof is she feels she's found one. Beyond that, you sound pretty angry and bitter.

You should really calm down, Chase. Your blood pressure is going to sky-rocket. If one of these supposed "trannies" who "calls you" called you now, you'd sound all flustered and needy; like you were desperate to get laid. If you have such a charmed relationship with so many transsexuals, why are you even on a porn forum? Where are they now? Not distracting you by shoving their cock in your mouth or fucking you in the ass, it would seem. Can't you afford a hooker?

[KittyPride]

This insane thread is too full of anger

Instead of spending your family's money on gay anal sex...stop being a coward and travel to thailand for your FFS and SRS to become the lesbian T-loving tranny you are at heart...

Your wife deserves a second chance with a real men dont you think...? Hope you pay her just as well as you pay for anal sex with complete strangers while calling that "supporting" the transgendered lol !!!

[KittyPride]

this is all the fault of tranny chasers! lol

You are just saying that to please the masochistic gay clients lol who want to hear you say they are a bad bad heterosexual boy lol

[Teydyn]

Instead of spending your family's money on gay anal sex...stop being a coward and travel to thailand for your FFS and SRS to become the lesbian T-loving tranny you are at heart...

Your wife deserves a second chance with a real men dont you think...? Hope you pay her just as well as you pay for anal sex with complete strangers while calling that "supporting" the transgendered lol !!!
You do realize you proved his point 100%?

[ed_jaxon]

this is all the fault of tranny chasers! lol
You do realize the irony of blaming the tranny chasers while posting that incredible picture right?

What male would not chase you looking as good as that?

[KittyPride]

the thirst

What is your defect Gomez?
Why would a straight guy fall for Ts unless he was somewhat bisexual...or a self confident heterosexual male...

But you are not a self confident heterosexual male...
You act like a scared pussy and call tgirls that have 10 times more guts and strength then you do as having issues with self confidence...haha

Do you look up to them so much ? Coz you are such a scared bunny?? Do you want to have the courage they have?

Its well known you look down on femininity...as something to look down upon and take advantage of...like you did with a sweet straight white girl...that payed your debts coz she loved you...but she deserved to be treated that way right...

How do you deserve to be treated?
Anal rape by a hung shemale ???

Naaaaaah....that would make u feel so good...
Finally some recognition that you are a man with a serious emotional en psychological defect...

[KittyPride]

You do realize you proved his point 100%?

What do you mean?
The only "point" he ever makes desperately needs to be surgically inverted in thailand....

And if any of you T loving guys really liked us as girls ...you WOuld defend us against the lowlifes and losers on this site that cant treat us with respect but chase us down like sex and fetish crazed maniacs...

You all must feel so masculine...
Any true male would shield us away from men with perverse intentions...

Not that i cannot take care of myself...
But the first charming man has yet to appear here !

[EvonRose]

Some would say that I was wrong for indulging this thread to begin with.
But KellyShore does give this topic some honesty. And when she does comment most of the more opinionated Trannies seem to backtrack their words a little. Mind you that Kelly isn't saying anything in this thread that the more sensible guys haven't stated 10x's over.

Yeah and if you were on a date with one of them that basically sounds like you hinting at a "freebie". So consider your efforts for rationalization dismissed and just pull out your wallet...

NO the more opinionated ts is just arguing with her because Kelly attacked me on my opinions...

I said from the beginning that I did agree with her to a degree as well... Go on check it out yourself...

It's when I said I prefer not to date chasers that she said I was bitter and jaded. Which i honestly thought was uncalled for. Go ahead and look for yourself...

[EvonRose]

Wow Kitty pride is going off on people... And I tought I was emotional... hahaha

You go girl!

[rockabilly]

Wow ... I'm flabbergasted at this.

[catherinefan]

But the first charming man has yet to appear here !


About time you put a l little more wood on the fire!

[rockabilly]

I'm quite charming and polite.
Ask anybody.

[ed_jaxon]

My lesbian boss said I was charming

[KittyPride]

My lesbian boss said I was charming

Very bad omen !

[NYCTSluv]

very bad omen !

lol!

[ed_jaxon]

look here Kitty...

Ol' Ed bees one charming muthafucka!

Ask someone.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Lmao

[alyssaluxor]

You are just saying that to please the masochistic gay clients lol who want to hear you say they are a bad bad heterosexual boy lol

Shhhhh girl its just our secret

It turns me on whenever I do that lol

[alyssaluxor]

You do realize the irony of blaming the tranny chasers while posting that incredible picture right?

What male would not chase you looking as good as that?

Just teasing Papi :jerkoff

[EvonRose]

look here Kitty...

Ol' Ed bees one charming muthafucka!

Ask someone.

Well you look really cute with your suit and cigar....

The girl too! Is she t?

[allurstouse]

What do you mean?
The only "point" he ever makes desperately needs to be surgically inverted in thailand....

And if any of you T loving guys really liked us as girls ...you WOuld defend us against the lowlifes and losers on this site that cant treat us with respect but chase us down like sex and fetish crazed maniacs...

You all must feel so masculine...
Any true male would shield us away from men with perverse intentions...

Not that i cannot take care of myself...
But the first charming man has yet to appear here !

Hey now some men have said shit about the morons...maybe too subtley like saying no matter how attractive they are they are ugly or referencing them as douchebags for personal attacks? I don't treat people bad period. it feels shitty to be shitty and anyone who gets off on it well, that says something about them as a human being doesn't it? something every other person in the world can see. Honestly though it is a porn forum. I'm not sure if I will stay here I'd rather have a conversation and the purpose of members seems at cross purpose a lot of the time. I do think all you girls are special and not because of thepenis. I think the refusal to bend to societal pressures and having the will and the courage to stand up and be your true selves is a shared extremely attractive charactor trait. really, think about the guys ashamed to have their picturre in the forum or be seen with you in relation to that? it's like comparing Lions and lemmings. Christ isn't having a moral compass and real conviction of charactor far more attractive than any vagina or dick?

[allurstouse]

Just teasing Papi :jerkoff

no it's me you are teasing but I'll still send the picture

[KittyPride]

Hey now some men have said shit about the morons...maybe too subtley like saying no matter how attractive they are they are ugly or referencing them as douchebags for personal attacks? I don't treat people bad period. it feels shitty to be shitty and anyone who gets off on it well, that says something about them as a human being doesn't it? something every other person in the world can see. Honestly though it is a porn forum. I'm not sure if I will stay here I'd rather have a conversation and the purpose of members seems at cross purpose a lot of the time. I do think all you girls are special and not because of thepenis. I think the refusal to bend to societal pressures and having the will and the courage to stand up and be your true selves is a shared extremely attractive charactor trait. really, think about the guys ashamed to have their picturre in the forum or be seen with you in relation to that? it's like comparing Lions and lemmings. Christ isn't having a moral compass and real conviction of charactor far more attractive than any vagina or dick?

Honey If all men would think like you one these forums... there would be no need to be a bitch... but a need for partying!!!

I have fun IRL... with a guy that respect me for my femininity! Thats the way it should be for us girls...

We should not go though all this hardship and difficult situations in life only to hear from our lovers that the only thing important about us, is us being a man for them...

Its just a tragedy honestly... it really is tragic for us girls...
That these fetish anal obsessed guys confuse their desires with our identity.

[sosed]

Honey If all men would think like you one these forums... there would be no need to be a bitch... but a need for partying!!!

I have fun IRL... with a guy that respect me for my femininity! Thats the way it should be for us girls...

We should not go though all this hardship and difficult situations in life only to hear from our lovers that the only thing important about us, is us being a man for them...

Its just a tragedy honestly... it really is tragic for us girls...
That these fetish anal obsessed guys confuse their desires with our identity.

Agree Kitty. But I also think many man don't know, that the main sexual organ and gender identity is between ears and not between legs. Woman is a woman, because she see and feel herself as a woman and relate outside as a woman, because she have female brains, cock or vagina have nothing to do with gender identity. It's all in brains.

[ed_jaxon]

Just teasing Papi :jerkoff

That pic is the ultimate tease. I will be in the PI in October. Hope you are there and not back in HK.


Well you look really cute with your suit and cigar....

The girl too! Is she t?

Thank you lil lady. The girl in the pic is a gg that was dancing at the club a while back.

[catherinefan]

Honey If all men would think like you one these forums... there would be no need to be a bitch... but a need for partying!!


So, that first charming man has appeared after all, Kitty?

[KittyPride]

So, that first charming man has appeared after all, Kitty?

Haha not so fast...
I have a 500 questionaire he has to answer first before he qualifies...a few crossexams...and he is going to have to wear woman clothes at some point...and his erection will be checked each time :p

[ed_jaxon]

And we have a quiz on baseball and whiskey that we want you to pass.

Whiskey or Pitcher?

Catfish Hunter

James Beam

Bruce Sutter

Goose Gossage

John Walker

Rube Foster

Jack Daniels

John Jameson

Blue Moon Odom

[Willie Escalade]

Ah, Blue Moon Odem...a favorite of the Bay Area! ;)

[KittyPride]

And we have a quiz on baseball and whiskey that we want you to pass.

Whiskey or Pitcher?

Catfish Hunter

James Beam

Bruce Sutter

Goose Gossage

John Walker

Rube Foster

Jack Daniels

John Jameson

Blue Moon Odom

Lol im afraid i fail miserably lol
But johny walker and jack daniels i would look for in a bar...

[Wendy Summers]

And we have a quiz on baseball and whiskey that we want you to pass.

Whiskey or Pitcher?

Catfish Hunter Pitcher

James Beam Whiskey

Bruce Sutter Pitcher

Goose Gossage Pitcher

John Walker Whiskey & Catcher - ifyaknowwutimean

Rube Foster Whiskey

Jack Daniels Whiskey

John Jameson Whiskey

Blue Moon Odom Pitcher


How'd I do?

[ed_jaxon]

Rube Foster -- greatest pitcher of the Negro Leagues. Eventually went on to become the owner of a Negro League team. Elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Other than that great.

But Johnny Walker Black Label is a catcher????
Does he know this????

[allurstouse]

Haha not so fast...
I have a 500 questionaire he has to answer first before he qualifies...a few crossexams...and he is going to have to wear woman clothes at some point...and his erection will be checked each time :p

wearing women's clothes does nothing for me and yes there is a reason I know this...i di say I am pretty open to try anything once ort twice right? I long ago sghed all the hang ups around sex and sexuality that keeps people miserable. if it isn't hurting anyone then there is no wrong about it.


. My erection is healthy...till it is healthy too many times in a day I hate to admit then it eagerly rises to the occasion and just can't quite get to home base which is the single most frustrating thing in the world. Alyssa had demanded photographic proof I believe she susp[ects I am not who I say I am... I need to turn PNP back on the PC to set cam up I leave it off for network security and she will have the proof that yes I have a penis.
Having my erection checked on a regular basis without the women's clothes would probably be good preventative medicine for some health condition to be named at a later date. Although I have bottomed if given a choice one or the other I'd choose top it's much more pleasurable an experience for me. I think some of you women may have some hang ups about guys sexuality and understand the dynamic but gay guys want to sleep with men noit you unless they are serious closet self hating cases. I think you would be surprised how many men actually see you as people not objects. It isn't enough but the world is changing and it's more than it was 25 yrs ago when I hate to admit I was part of the problem not the soloution. I think an internet porn forum is probably the worst place to look for people who don't objectify it kind of goes hand and hand. Kitty pryde is my favorite X- men and she first appreared in issue 138 and my favorite arc with her has to be days of future past..... <-------------GEEK

[KittyPride]

wearing women's clothes does nothing for me and yes there is a reason I know this...i di say I am pretty open to try anything once ort twice right? I long ago sghed all the hang ups around sex and sexuality that keeps people miserable. if it isn't hurting anyone then there is no wrong about it.


. My erection is healthy...till it is healthy too many times in a day I hate to admit then it eagerly rises to the occasion and just can't quite get to home base which is the single most frustrating thing in the world. Alyssa had demanded photographic proof I believe she susp[ects I am not who I say I am... I need to turn PNP back on the PC to set cam up I leave it off for network security and she will have the proof that yes I have a penis.
Having my erection checked on a regular basis without the women's clothes would probably be good preventative medicine for some health condition to be named at a later date. Although I have bottomed if given a choice one or the other I'd choose top it's much more pleasurable an experience for me. I think some of you women may have some hang ups about guys sexuality and understand the dynamic but gay guys want to sleep with men noit you unless they are serious closet self hating cases. I think you would be surprised how many men actually see you as people not objects. It isn't enough but the world is changing and it's more than it was 25 yrs ago when I hate to admit I was part of the problem not the soloution. I think an internet porn forum is probably the worst place to look for people who don't objectify it kind of goes hand and hand. Kitty pryde is my favorite X- men and she first appreared in issue 138 and my favorite arc with her has to be days of future past..... <-------------GEEK


Haha was only yoking but that part about the womans cloths is just to check how it makes you feel...if it makes you hot lol....then you fail the test :D

Its to prevent dating men who "want to be like you" lol

Can you imagine how bad that sounds lol...
They dont like you...but want to be LIKE you lol...

And they want to bttm "like you" lol

Im a very easy girl but i know what i want...
Am only after love...not money...
And i want to be sure i can please a man...and i just cant please bttms and transvestites without having to vomit lol

Im very respectfull towards men and like to think i understand them a bit better coz i know what its like to be raised as one...

Also i just love men...so extremely very much...and can be real real sweet...

I just dont want to bitch with my bf coz he thinks he is more woman or more gay then i am lol...i dont do the lesbian stuff...

Not for me...
But i admire even praise and slave for a masculine man. (when he is sweet)

[allurstouse]

Haha was only yoking but that part about the womans cloths is just to check how it makes you feel...if it makes you hot lol....then you fail the test :D

Its to prevent dating men who "want to be like you" lol

Can you imagine how bad that sounds lol...
They dont like you...but want to be LIKE you lol...

And they want to bttm "like you" lol

Im a very easy girl but i know what i want...
Am only after love...not money...
And i want to be sure i can please a man...and i just cant please bttms and transvestites without having to vomit lol

Im very respectfull towards men and like to think i understand them a bit better coz i know what its like to be raised as one...

Also i just love men...so extremely very much...and can be real real sweet...

I just dont want to bitch with my bf coz he thinks he is more woman or more gay then i am lol...i dont do the lesbian stuff...

Not for me...
But i admire even praise and slave for a masculine man. (when he is sweet)

You girls really do have so much bs you have to sift through. That man...he should just go find a guy. there is nothing wrong with it and he'll be happier. people try to force themselves to be things they arent and it hurts them and those they are with. if you are ever in the tri state area though and want a guy to buy you dinner. as long as you aren't like a secret Axe murdderer i have to draw the line somewhere and I realy wouldnt be looking for the freebie or hitting on you I just like meeting new people I am weird that way and not drinking or clubbing is limiting in that sense

[KittyPride]

You girls really do have so much bs you have to sift through. That man...he should just go find a guy. there is nothing wrong with it and he'll be happier. people try to force themselves to be things they arent and it hurts them and those they are with. if you are ever in the tri state area though and want a guy to buy you dinner. as long as you aren't like a secret Axe murdderer i have to draw the line somewhere and I realy wouldnt be looking for the freebie or hitting on you I just like meeting new people I am weird that way and not drinking or clubbing is limiting in that sense

Hi sweety
I live across the ocean...and i have a bf...
Strictly monogamous here lol...

But im hot as hell today...
When i get too horney i go here to cool it off on power bttms lol

[allurstouse]

Hi sweety
I live across the ocean...and i have a bf...
Strictly monogamous here lol...

But im hot as hell today...
When i get too horney i go here to cool it off on power bttms lol

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....I had food in my mouth...had being. I was just trying to be nice I had no idea of where who whatever and really wasnt gf shopping just people to talk to shopping. I do hope my awesome knowledge of who kitty pryde (future Mayor of Chicago in last stand) impressed you with my emotional matur ..i...t.. Aww crap

[KittyPride]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....I had food in my mouth...had being. I was just trying to be nice I had no idea of where who whatever and really wasnt gf shopping just people to talk to shopping. I do hope my awesome knowledge of who kitty pryde (future Mayor of Chicago in last stand) impressed you with my emotional matur ..i...t.. Aww crap

Men are cute when they are boys :D

[robertlouis]

Glad to see some humour and even a little goodwill in this thread at last.

[Teydyn]

Yeah, but how will it get to 100 pages this way? :D

[yosi]

I read men, maybe sometimes overanalyze it... but it helps me.

If a man truly wants to be in a relationship with me......
.

how can a man be in a true relationship with you if you are located in: San Francisco/ Los Angeles/ New York/ Chicago/ Atlanta/ Miami ?

[catherinefan]

Yeah, but how will it get to 100 pages this way? :D


Don't think it will ever get there..........not without Kelly and Evon!

[acdaddy69]

how can a man be in a true relationship with you if you are located in: San Francisco/ Los Angeles/ New York/ Chicago/ Atlanta/ Miami ?

And she left out Boston..So no need for me to even try.

[EvonRose]

how can a man be in a true relationship with you if you are located in: San Francisco/ Los Angeles/ New York/ Chicago/ Atlanta/ Miami ?

I prefer a boyfriend in every city...

[Prospero]

Evon... add London to your list and you have a ready made boyfriend

[KittyPride]

Evon... add London to your list and you have a ready made boyfriend

Boyfriend?
What use would an old gay bttmqueen be for Evon?

[MrsKellyPierce]

lmao

[inSD]

My theory is that many couldn't attract straighter men as a non-tranny so they had to get boobs and dress and act female to get men to notice them, which breeds the resentment towards men especially the ones who are into it. A lot of these people hate themselves too much to have a real relationship so they sell that asspussy for an ez buck and bitch about it.

[EvonRose]

Porn stars, escorts, stripper...

We all sell ourselves one way or another, you probably don't want to attack us on that on this forum...

[KittyPride]

My theory is that many couldn't attract straighter men as a non-tranny so they had to get boobs and dress and act female to get men to notice them, which breeds the resentment towards men especially the ones who are into it. A lot of these people hate themselves too much to have a real relationship so they sell that asspussy for an ez buck and bitch about it.

Lol how self centered you are to think i transitioned for men !!!!
Lol!!
No honey..i did it to be me...to be alive before i die...to be able to excist for other people...family and friends...tohave a social life...to live withoutf fear and self loathing...and a1000 of other reasons...dating heterosexual men not even being a part of it...

But why should i "educate" anyone on a porn forum lol

[SammiValentine]

My theory is that many couldn't attract straighter men as a non-tranny so they had to get boobs and dress and act female to get men to notice them, which breeds the resentment towards men especially the ones who are into it. A lot of these people hate themselves too much to have a real relationship so they sell that asspussy for an ez buck and bitch about it.

hey why dont you say what you really think, dont be shy!!! ;)

[Maximus25]

This is a peculiar yet intriguing topic for me. Except for inability to become pregnant, transgender women are really not that different from genetic women. Transitioning reminds of puberty, and every person has gone through an awkward stage.

I think some of the women and men in this board need to mellow out. Ladies, if I guy knows that you're trans, and is still willing to accept for the person you are then he needs to be applauded. I realize there are some guys who -incorrectly- view ts as being some realize sex doll. I mean objectifying someone based on physical attribute and denying their humanity is not cool no matter what the situation.

Simply put, approaching and dating a trans woman is NO different than a gg. Guys need to be mindful to treat with respect and dignity. If you think she is gorgeous, please let her know. It's surprising how many beautiful women are insecure.

Finally, there are some women in the media whether news or entertainment who are trans. They are stealth and it is really difficult to ascertain. Personally, I think it's awesome and progressives. Just remember the straight girl - milf porn?! -l who you're beating off to her name may have been Walter.

Peace and blessings!

[EvonRose]

This is a peculiar yet intriguing topic for me. Except for inability to become pregnant, transgender women are really not that different from genetic women. Transitioning reminds of puberty, and every person has gone through an awkward stage.

I think some of the women and men in this board need to mellow out. Ladies, if I guy knows that you're trans, and is still willing to accept for the person you are then he needs to be applauded. I realize there are some guys who -incorrectly- view ts as being some realize sex doll. I mean objectifying someone based on physical attribute and denying their humanity is not cool no matter what the situation.

Simply put, approaching and dating a trans woman is NO different than a gg. Guys need to be mindful to treat with respect and dignity. If you think she is gorgeous, please let her know. It's surprising how many beautiful women are insecure.

Finally, there are some women in the media whether news or entertainment who are trans. They are stealth and it is really difficult to ascertain. Personally, I think it's awesome and progressives. Just remember the straight girl - milf porn?! -l who you're beating off to her name may have been Walter.

Peace and blessings!


Thank you for that! Hopefully now you words will have some impacts on these cock crazed lunatics, who's only true education of the ts women is a site called shemaleyum.com....

Hey little boys, take a few notes.

[runningdownthatdream]

I've never "dated' a TS woman. Probably like a lot of men I stumbled onto the 3rd sex by accident. I was 16 at a club and saw the most beautiful girl in the room making eyes at me. When I asked one of my friends who she was he told me I had it all wrong - she wasn't 'really a girl'. And no he wasn't a cock blocker. Well I was stunned........and intrigued. I was conflicted - how could I be attracted to a woman that wasn't physically born a woman!?

In any event it created a change in my thinking and to such an extent I would piss off a lot of GGs by my stating that femininity was a learned trait and had nothing to do with the physical form! I took a lot of shit for that.......but recently I found this http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/codes-gender/ so it looks like the eggheads have come to the same conclusion.

Anyways I've never dated a TS woman (although I've had cheap dirty sex with a few) because I've never run into any at the places I go. I refuse to troll gay or tranny bars nor am I looking specifically for a TS woman. If I meet one in my travels through life then so be it, if I don't it's no big deal.

If I did date a TS woman, she'd just be another woman I dated.............

[SmithXXX]

Quoting Evon

"I think filtering out men and wanting the best intentions, is a healthy way to build a foundation in a relationship. In reality ts or gg just don't want to be objectified in that sense..."

That quote goes both ways. We men {unfortunately "men" refers to a very scarce few (males) on this board} filter also. It's just as hard for us as it is for you to filter out the bad from the good.

Guys generally think that every TS is out for one thing $$$ and could careless about our true intentions. So we initially label a girl right away. Is that wrong - YES!

Just as for most of the ladies, filtering out the bad from the good. Because 95% (if not a higher) of the guys are cock hounds and don't care for nor respect the ladies for their feelings, intelligence, or for who they are WOMEN. So they label us right away is that wrong - YES (but most of the time they are right)

Somewhere along the many pages of bickering the subject of this thread was lost "Men on dating TS WOMEN"

Well the filtering SHOULD START at the introduction, and NOT before hand by labeling one another as "ESCORT", "CHASER", "GOLD DIGGER", "COCK HOUND", etc.....all that does is starts you off on a negative foot. The filtering should start once you meet the person, and get a feeling for their true intentions. If you hit it off initially then go on a normal date. If it's a good date then repeat (not rocket science). If the date sucks then don't go out again.

Guys, if you want to actually DATE (not by the hour) a TS then don't objectify them or treat them as sexual fetish. Use your friggin head (the one that's located 2 feet above your ass, and not the little one between your legs) THEY ARE WOMEN, and if you can't fathom that then you are NOT ready to date a TS (NOT EVEN CLOSE, and you need not read any further. Get a life and go read another thread)

Ladies, not every one of us guys are chaser's or any of the other colorful {colourful for our readers over seas....lol} expletives that have been thrown around. Some of us actually want LTR's with TS's or GG's for that matter. Unfortunately for the ones of us that want them we get thrown into the pot with the chasers because they hit on every single girl in site all the time (over and over again) and that makes us guilty by association. Dating is trial and error. If we date one TS, and it doesn't work, and then if we ask another out BAM! We're tagged as a chaser regardless of our intentions. How else can we have or achieve a LTR if we don't date? As Kelly said she has X-BF's and now she is in a happy long term relationship because she found someone she loves for who he is and what he likes, and he is happy for the same reasons. They both have EX's, and I'm sure when they met the didn't prejudge or label the other, and if they did then the sucked it up and took a chance and it's worked.

This goes for everybody: EVERYTHING IN LIFE WORTH HAVING INVOLVES RISK - plain and simple. I took that risk almost 4 years ago with my EX, and I'm glad I did she is a wonderful girl (yes a TS), but unfortunately it didn't work out. We are still friends, and I'm grateful for that because it always doesn't end that way, but if you prejudge and label each other you will never find true happiness with another person regardless if they are GAY, STRAIGHT, BI, etc...(Which are labels too).

[runningdownthatdream]

Quoting Evon

"I think filtering out men and wanting the best intentions, is a healthy way to build a foundation in a relationship. In reality ts or gg just don't want to be objectified in that sense..."

That quote goes both ways. We men {unfortunately "men" refers to a very scarce few (males) on this board} filter also. It's just as hard for us as it is for you to filter out the bad from the good.

Guys generally think that every TS is out for one thing $$$ and could careless about our true intentions. So we initially label a girl right away. Is that wrong - YES!

Just as for most of the ladies, filtering out the bad from the good. Because 95% (if not a higher) of the guys are cock hounds and don't care for nor respect the ladies for their feelings, intelligence, or for who they are WOMEN. So they label us right away is that wrong - YES (but most of the time they are right)

Somewhere along the many pages of bickering the subject of this thread was lost "Men on dating TS WOMEN"

Well the filtering SHOULD START at the introduction, and NOT before hand by labeling one another as "ESCORT", "CHASER", "GOLD DIGGER", "COCK HOUND", etc.....all that does is starts you off on a negative foot. The filtering should start once you meet the person, and get a feeling for their true intentions. If you hit it off initially then go on a normal date. If it's a good date then repeat (not rocket science). If the date sucks then don't go out again.

Guys, if you want to actually DATE (not by the hour) a TS then don't objectify them or treat them as sexual fetish. Use your friggin head (the one that's located 2 feet above your ass, and not the little one between your legs) THEY ARE WOMEN, and if you can't fathom that then you are NOT ready to date a TS (NOT EVEN CLOSE, and you need not read any further. Get a life and go read another thread)

Ladies, not every one of us guys are chaser's or any of the other colorful {colourful for our readers over seas....lol} expletives that have been thrown around. Some of us actually want LTR's with TS's or GG's for that matter. Unfortunately for the ones of us that want them we get thrown into the pot with the chasers because they hit on every single girl in site all the time (over and over again) and that makes us guilty by association. Dating is trial and error. If we date one TS, and it doesn't work, and then if we ask another out BAM! We're tagged as a chaser regardless of our intentions. How else can we have or achieve a LTR if we don't date? As Kelly said she has X-BF's and now she is in a happy long term relationship because she found someone she loves for who he is and what he likes, and he is happy for the same reasons. They both have EX's, and I'm sure when they met the didn't prejudge or label the other, and if they did then the sucked it up and took a chance and it's worked.

This goes for everybody: EVERYTHING IN LIFE WORTH HAVING INVOLVES RISK - plain and simple. I took that risk almost 4 years ago with my EX, and I'm glad I did she is a wonderful girl (yes a TS), but unfortunately it didn't work out. We are still friends, and I'm grateful for that because it always doesn't end that way, but if you prejudge and label each other you will never find true happiness with another person regardless if they are GAY, STRAIGHT, BI, etc...(Which are labels too).

Too much analysis bro............women will pre-judge a man base don his friends, acquaintances, what her girlfriends tell her, etc, etc......but guess what? if the man is a man in the first place it doesn't matter if he is pre-judged. In fact his reputation - good or bad - should precede him. So if he's a 'good' man that will be the word...if he's a douchebag who drops to his knees and gurgles every chance he gets then that'll be held against him.....as it should be.

[Nicole Dupre]

My theory is that many couldn't attract straighter men as a non-tranny so they had to get boobs and dress and act female to get men to notice them, which breeds the resentment towards men especially the ones who are into it. A lot of these people hate themselves too much to have a real relationship so they sell that asspussy for an ez buck and bitch about it.
And theories like that are what make you the retarded nobody that you are.

[EvonRose]

No yogi is right...

I am mature enough to give men the benefit of the doubt or a chance...

I recently dated a guy in Miami who I felt was a chaser, but I gave him the benefit until I started seeing the signs..

He never had time to take me out

Only time he had was to see me in my place for sex.

And when we did he would leave as oppose to staying with me for the night or courting.

This was very unhealthy and I don't like men like that.

I am too good, to be handled so carelessly, and I deserve better, he used me and he lied to me...

Straight men don't treat me this way, they take me out for dinner, or wine, or movies... But I never feel comfortable with a chaser..

But regardless we risk it giving a guy a chance, and it's the guys chance to prove himself worthy. If not we are the only ones who get hurt by it. So we have to protect that.

[SmithXXX]

Too much analysis bro............women will pre-judge a man base don his friends, acquaintances, what her girlfriends tell her, etc, etc......but guess what? if the man is a man in the first place it doesn't matter if he is pre-judged. In fact his reputation - good or bad - should precede him. So if he's a 'good' man that will be the word...if he's a douchebag who drops to his knees and gurgles every chance he gets then that'll be held against him.....as it should be.

I agree with you to a point about being prejudged on the basis of friends, acquaintances and her girl friends etc..., but a good man in this community gets labeled regardless of how good his reputation is. Until you are actually part of this community, and support it you will not know. So stick to your cheap dirty sex, and No it's not too much analysis. Experience is all it is plain simple fact.

[hefzfavebunii]

I'd prefer neither - I'd prefer a gay man hands down.

[SmithXXX]

No yogi is right...

But regardless we risk it giving a guy a chance, and it's the guys chance to prove himself worthy. If not we are the only ones who get hurt by it. So we have to protect that.

I agree with you Evon, it is up to us to prove our intentions and our worth as a suitor. As it is for the lady to prove herself as well. That's what dating is about. You found out the guy in Miami was a chaser, and you ghosted his ass. Good for you. Just as I have dated girls in the past that on the 2nd date were "buy me this, buy me that"

[EvonRose]

I'd prefer neither - I'd prefer a gay man hands down.

If a gay is attracted to you then your not a woman...

Gay is homosexual, the attraction to the same gender... By gender your a female... So that doesn't make sense...

[hefzfavebunii]

If a gay is attracted to you then your not a woman...

Gay is homosexual, the attraction to the same gender... By gender your a female... So that doesn't make sense...

My SEX is male my gender is female. I prefer the company of gay men, and I've known several who were attracted to me. Our mutual attraction doesn't determine my gender. No truly STRAIGHT man is attracted to transsexuals, sorry but to think that is completely delusional.

[doctor screw]

My SEX is male my gender is female. I prefer the company of gay men, and I've known several who were attracted to me. Our mutual attraction doesn't determine my gender. No truly STRAIGHT man is attracted to transsexuals, sorry but to think that is completely delusional.

For a manic racist,that's a great point

[Dark passenger]

Real talk Evon, I can really appreciate and respect what u bring to the table. U speak ur mind and put your opinion out there. You speak your mind on how you feel. With you it is what it is.

[EvonRose]

My SEX is male my gender is female. I prefer the company of gay men, and I've known several who were attracted to me. Our mutual attraction doesn't determine my gender. No truly STRAIGHT man is attracted to transsexuals, sorry but to think that is completely delusional.

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

[tsdvdman]

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?
Unless he is bottoming though right? If he takes it up the ass there is no way he can be hetero

[hefzfavebunii]

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

Professionals can say the sky is green does that make it true? Professionals also used to think the Earth was flat. Professionals thought the Earth was the center of the universe. Professionals used to teach people that smoking was good for you etc etc etc... I go by real life experience, things I can see, hear and feel, not what some over educated twit with a piece of paper that says their a "professional". I've been transitioning since I was 13, and I've not met one "straight" man who was attracted to me or girls like me. You live in a fantasyland darlin', men lie all the time about all kinds of things. You don't seem like the type who's difficult to fool, so these men run all over you telling you all kinds of nonsense and you take it as truth because it suits your ego.. but I'm not buying it.

[hefzfavebunii]

For a manic racist,that's a great point

You're an idiot.

[EvonRose]

Unless he is bottoming though right? If he takes it up the ass there is no way he can be hetero

No not at all... Sexual kinks don't determine sexual preference...

Many straight men who don't like men still love anal play...

Many straight men are also submissive.

Although prefer top, dominant men...

[doctor screw]

You're an idiot.

Yeahhhhhhh....I'm the idiot

[EvonRose]

Professionals can say the sky is green does that make it true? Professionals also used to think the Earth was flat. Professionals thought the Earth was the center of the universe. Professionals used to teach people that smoking was good for you etc etc etc... I go by real life experience, things I can see, hear and feel, not what some over educated twit with a piece of paper that says their a "professional". I've been transitioning since I was 13, and I've not met one "straight" man who was attracted to me or girls like me. You live in a fantasyland darlin', men lie all the time about all kinds of things. You don't seem like the type who's difficult to fool, so these men run all over you telling you all kinds of nonsense and you take it as truth because it suits your ego.. but I'm not buying it.

Professionals have studied this for years with scientific explanation and proof...

It would be dumb for scientist to say the earth is round with proof and you still think it's flat...

You need to educate yourself because what your experience is not the truth at all...

That's like saying I'm a drug addict and I was raised really bad so I know for a fact every family lives this way, theres your world and then theres the real world...

You refuse to hear the study and the truth because your afraid your a gay man who likes the kink of being in women's clothes... Gay men like men... So if a gay man likes you then your a gay man...

Sorry but that's the truth...

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You know, there are real straight men (who's never been much less even entertained thoughts of being with another man or tranny) that falls (and I mean falls hard) for a tranny!
Miracles do happen. ;) Now what you guys do behind closed doors is your business. Whether he tries to give you oral or takes it from behind is between the two of you. You somehow need to work around what you have between your legs eh? lol But that does not make him "instantly" gay imo! ;)

[doctor screw]

If you take a dick in the ass,you're bi at the very least.If you take a object shaped like a dick,you're bi-curious with gay traits.

A lot of dudes on this site are searching for sexual validation from trannys/chasers.

Be happy with yourself first,and more than likely you're gay....just saying

[Nicole Dupre]

Unless he is bottoming though right? If he takes it up the ass there is no way he can be hetero
That's sodomy. Homosexuality, as a social identity, was a concept that only originated about 150 years ago. It actually didn't exist until the 19th century. Research what I'm telling you. It's true.

[hefzfavebunii]

Professionals have studied this for years with scientific explanation and proof...

It would be dumb for scientist to say the earth is round with proof and you still think it's flat...

You need to educate yourself because what your experience is not the truth at all...

That's like saying I'm a drug addict and I was raised really bad so I know for a fact every family lives this way, theres your world and then theres the real world...

You refuse to hear the study and the truth because your afraid your a gay man who likes the kink of being in women's clothes... Gay men like men... So if a gay man likes you then your a gay man...

Sorry but that's the truth...

I'm a gay man now because I enjoy the company of gay men? Bitch you're way off base. If anyone's a gay man here it's you. An open bottom who transitioned to get fucked in the ass because you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman.. haha. You're the biggest moron on this board. I know plenty of gay men who think just like you do. "OOOH if I transition I'll get straight guys to fuck me TEHEHE!!" You're delusional, and an idiot.

[EvonRose]

I'm a gay man now because I enjoy the company of gay men? Bitch you're way off base. If anyone's a gay man here it's you. An open bottom who transitioned to get fucked in the ass because you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman.. haha. You're the biggest moron on this board. I know plenty of gay men who think just like you do. "OOOH if I transition I'll get straight guys to fuck me TEHEHE!!" You're delusional, and an idiot.

I never said you were gay, I said if a gay man was attracted to you (impossible) then you have to be a gay man yourself...

It is scientifically impossible for a gay man to like women, or the female form.

I transitioned to become a full woman, why would a man need me to be happy?

Good job being defensive by the way, maybe too many people call you gay but I understand it's okay honey you will look like a woman one day.

[tsdvdman]

That's sodomy. Homosexuality, as a social identity, was a concept that only originated about 150 years ago. It actually didn't exist until the 19th century. Research what I'm telling you. It's true.
Trust me I agree..that's why I say you can't be hetero/straight whatever if you takin it up the ass. I'm not knockin (at least not on this board because there are so many) dudes that do it but don't sit here and try to rationalize it by continuously asking does it make you gay...YES it does..lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Anal sex is something gay men do, but anal sex is not what defines a man being attracted to a man. Gay men love anal sex, but so what?

I love getting my dick sucked. If I close my eyes, does it matter who does it? If you have anal sex, and both partners have blindfolds on, does it matter who does it? To me it does. I don't want any chick fucking me in the ass or sucking my dick. I don't want to fuck a chick in the ass or anywhere else. Women are my sisters and I don't do incest. That's for secondary transsexuals and hetero crossdressers on birth control. Fuck that sissy shit. I want a MAN in my bed, even if I fuck his ass.

[EvonRose]

Trust me I agree..that's why I say you can't be hetero/straight whatever if you takin it up the ass. I'm not knockin (at least not on this board because there are so many) dudes that do it but don't sit here and try to rationalize it by continuously asking does it make you gay...YES it does..lol

Well I have a friend who is a guy and he loves his gf playing with his ass... But he doesn't like men, or cocks...

It's the same thing for ts..

If a ts likes to top does that mean she's not really a ts but a gay man in disguise?

Some think real ts only bottom and get a sex change, but i don't think this is always true.

[hefzfavebunii]

I never said you were gay, I said if a gay man was attracted to you (impossible) then you have to be a gay man yourself...

It is scientifically impossible for a gay man to like women, or the female form.

I transitioned to become a full woman, why would a man need me to be happy?

Good job being defensive by the way, maybe too many people call you gay but I understand it's okay honey you will look like a woman one day.

Men like all kinds of things sexually, who died and left you the expert on what they would never like?

So sit the fuck down you gook, and don't call me honey.

[muh_muh]

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

thats utter hogwash
human sexuality is far more complicated than something that can be pigeonholed into 3 distinct categories and that is an actual scientific fact
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale)

claiming something is scientific fact and that its taught wherever doesnt make it so
especially if actual science says the complete opposite

[tsdvdman]

Well I have a friend who is a guy and he loves his gf playing with his ass... But he doesn't like men, or cocks...

It's the same thing for ts..

If a ts likes to top does that mean she's not really a ts but a gay man in disguise?

Some think real ts only bottom and get a sex change, but i don't think this is always true.
That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it

[EvonRose]

Men like all kinds of things sexually, who died and left you the expert on what they would never like?

So sit the fuck down you gook, and don't call me honey.

Alright Sweetie!

Being man is a gender

Within genders theres an umbrella of sexuality, preference, and other things that make that certain man an individual...

Homosexual men like men...

Bitch you look more asian than me, so who you calling a gook?

[EvonRose]

That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it

Okay so the girl isn't really straight because she likes to use her strap on?

That theory is a little biased don't you think?

[hefzfavebunii]

Alright Sweetie!

Being man is a gender

Within genders theres an umbrella of sexuality, preference, and other things that make that certain man an individual...

Homosexual men like men...

Bitch you look more asian than me, so who you calling a gook?

I'm Polish and Lithuanian. Thats whats known as "makeup".

[hefzfavebunii]

thats utter hogwash
human sexuality is far more complicated than something that can be pigeonholed into 3 distinct categories and that is an actual scientific fact
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale)

claiming something is scientific fact and that its taught wherever doesnt make it so
especially if actual science says the complete opposite

THANK YOU!!!!!!! :Bowdown: You can easily come to this conclusion, because I'm guessing your fragile identity doesn't require believing the men who fuck you to be "heterosexual", like hers does.

[EvonRose]

thats utter hogwash
human sexuality is far more complicated than something that can be pigeonholed into 3 distinct categories and that is an actual scientific fact
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale)

claiming something is scientific fact and that its taught wherever doesnt make it so
especially if actual science says the complete opposite

A hetero predominant is bisexual....

I think that before people start going on about the different terms for it I think they need to educate themselves on sexual terms...

There are many exclusive hetero who only like gg and sometimes ts...
An exclusive Homosexual man like sonly men...

Anything in between identifies Bi, curious, or asexualism as in pan, or asex...

So everything in that wiki states what I am saying.

[Nicole Dupre]

That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it
That's retarded. Women love getting fucked in the ass too. My best friend is a GG and she gets her ass fucked by a gorg man with a hot swimmers build bod every night. She's gay? Please. Anal pleasure is not sexual attraction. Neither is oral pleasure.

[EvonRose]

I'm Polish and Lithuanian. Thats whats known as "makeup".

Eh your nose is too wide and big... Are you sure your not mongolian?

I look more european than you do so stop lying....

[Nicole Dupre]

A hetero predominant is bisexual....

I think that before people start going on about the different terms for it I think they need to educate themselves on sexual terms...

There are many exclusive hetero who only like gg and sometimes ts...
An exclusive Homosexual man like sonly men...

Anything in between identifies Bi, curious, or asexualism as in pan, or asex...

So everything in that wiki states what I am saying.
Don't waste your breath. Let them all think they're gay. It's actually funnier that way. lol

[EvonRose]

Don't waste your breath. Let them all think they're gay. It's actually funnier that way. lol

This is why labels are important, girl... Gay men want to be straight... I really don't want to date a bi or gay man... sorry.

[Nicole Dupre]

This is why labels are important, girl... Gay men want to be straight... I really don't want to date a bi or gay man... sorry.
Trust me. No gay man is having sex with anyone who projects womanhood. Never. They'll fuck an ugly fatso man first before they fuck anything that's fishy.

[hefzfavebunii]

Eh your nose is too wide and big... Are you sure your not mongolian?

I look more european than you do so stop lying....

No you don't. hahaha...

[EvonRose]

No you don't. hahaha...

Yes I do hahahaha....

[Nicole Dupre]

And I mean "fishy" as in "tuna" as in "cunty". as in woman-like.

[EvonRose]

And I mean "fishy" as in "tuna" as in "cunty". as in woman-like.

Like lobsters and crabs.....


ooooo maybe not crabs maybe shrimp...

[hefzfavebunii]

Yes I do hahahaha....

Dude are you serious? You're fucking Asian you look 0% European, like I said you are DELUSIONAL, you think you look white!! What a joke.

[Nicole Dupre]

Like baccalà. lol

[EvonRose]

Dude are you serious? You're fucking Asian you look 0% European, like I said you are DELUSIONAL, you think you look white!! What a joke.

No I'm actually not delusion since amy make up is 50% percent English, 25% spanish...

I only have 25% percent Filipino, your going of on what you read just because I was born there...

My grandfather was an american us pilot
My grandmother was an english professor.

Plus any asian woman puts you to shame anyways... So what's wrong with being asian?

Fillipinos are pacific islanders, like hawiians, and and polesnisians...

So you know nothing girl.. Go back to school!

[hefzfavebunii]

No I'm actually not delusion since amy make up is 50% percent English, 25% spanish...

I only have 25% percent Filipino, your going of on what you read just because I was born there...

My grandfather was an american us pilot
My grandmother was an english professor.

Plus any asian woman puts you to shame anyways... So what's wrong with being asian?

Fillipinos are pacific islanders, like hawiians, and and polesnisians...

So you know nothing girl.. Go back to school!

Nothing is wrong with being Asian. 3/4 of my GG friends are off the plane Vietnamese and Cambodian. Don't patronize me, you're clearly an idiot. You think straight men like cock. Enough said.

[Nicole Dupre]

Evon is much more cunty than you, Ashley. I'm not even saying it because I think you're a white trash asshole. It's true. And her eyes are much bigger and rounder than yours, her features are much finer, and she's fish down. Why are you coming for everyone with so much hatred with that supposed great life of yours? Don't even try coming for her. I speak the truth, and nothing but the fucking truth. You are fishy, I will say that. But not like her. And you don't have fine features like her. She's sickening. Don't be such a hater, and such a racist. You think you're a Polish blue blood? ;-) lol Work it OUT, girl. lol

[EvonRose]

Nothing is wrong with being Asian. 3/4 of my GG friends are off the plane Vietnamese and Cambodian. Don't patronize me, you're clearly an idiot. You think straight men like cock. Enough said.

Calling one a gook means you do have a problem with them...

Straight men like women, it's not my fault you think your man...

HONEY!

That's like me calling a black man nigger and then saying I got black friends, not an excuse! You are racist!

[KittyPride]

That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it

Wow ...i agree with you 100%.

[Nicole Dupre]

Ashley's a hater, Evon. Pay her nudge.

[doctor screw]

Wow ...i agree with you 100%.

Yo,how do you look????
Your personality is on point,but what about the rest???hmmmmmm

[Dino Velvet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sknqi83d7N0

[Nicole Dupre]

Ashley's a hater, Evon. Pay her nudge.
Well don't unless you like being wrong. He's wrong. So is Ashley.

[EvonRose]

Ashley's a hater, Evon. Pay her nudge.

Yeah I mean, more ethan hater... Racist status....

[Nicole Dupre]

I meant to quote you, Kitty. Kitty, don't start throwing your sketchy two cents in. You're trying to understand, but you really don't.

[hefzfavebunii]

Evon is much more cunty than you, Ashley. I'm not even saying it because I think you're a white trash asshole. It's true. And her eyes are much bigger and rounder than yours, her features are much finer, and she's fish down. Why are you coming for everyone with so much hatred with that supposed great life of yours? Don't even try coming for her. I speak the truth, and nothing but the fucking truth. You are fishy, I will say that. But not like her. And you don't have fine features like her. She's sickening. Don't be such a hater, and such a racist. You think you're a Polish blue blood? ;-) lol Work it OUT, girl. lol

Was anyone even talking to you? Why are you so pathetic? Get a life Nicole, everyone knows you're the biggest hater bully on this board. You love the stir the pot and get people going. I mean, I can't really blame you. If I looked as big, beastly and scary as you I probably would hang out on here all day and hate on other people too.

I never said Evon was ugly, I think she's very beautiful. I'm not competing with her, she was the one who called me a gay man first so of course I'd react.

You on the other hand, are a rotten toothed dragon lady with DISGUSTING tattoos and an even nastier, sick looking wrinkled grey dick. You might want to get that checked out, because it looks very SICK to me. Not only that, but you're clearly an EVIL person through and through. ALL you do ALL day everyday is sit on this useless board, saying the same useless things to the same useless people. You're a loser who lives with your mother. Still waiting for your father to drop dead so you can collect an inheritance so you can stop turning 200$ dates in 2 star hotels? Bitch go someplace with your 45 year old crossdressed ass. You make me want to puke.

[EvonRose]

Lets be clear here, I never called you a gay man...

So stop being stupid...

You called me a gook...

So let's stop playing the victim...

Why the need to attack someone first? Don't you know your just gonna have your ass served on a platter, don't dish if you can't take.

[KittyPride]

Yo,how do you look????
You personality is on point,but what about the rest???hmmmmmm

Why would you want to know the rest?
Im notavailable...and honestly not really feeling like wanting to be judged by the men and woman here...also i am a TS...no doubt about it...but advertising that makes me feel very bad..
Thats why im not in the business also...

I like it when guys flirt with me...ofcourse...
But all other compliments i dont take too serious....sometimes a nice compliment can make me more insecure...

And i neverforgetim a TS

[Nicole Dupre]

Yeah I mean, more ethan hater... Racist status....
Yeah, that was COMPLETELY fucked up and hatefully RACIST.

[doctor screw]

Why would you want to know the rest?
Im notavailable...and honestly not really feeling like wanting to be judged by the men and woman here...also i am a TS...no doubt about it...but advertising that makes me feel very bad..
Thats why im not in the business also...

I like it when guys flirt with me...ofcourse...
But all other compliments i dont take too serious....sometimes a nice compliment can make me more insecure...

And i neverforgetim a TS

Well,fuck my feelings then.....whatever,lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Was anyone even talking to you? Why are you so pathetic? Get a life Nicole, everyone knows you're the biggest hater bully on this board. You love the stir the pot and get people going. I mean, I can't really blame you. If I looked as big, beastly and scary as you I probably would hang out on here all day and hate on other people too.

I never said Evon was ugly, I think she's very beautiful. I'm not competing with her, she was the one who called me a gay man first so of course I'd react.

You on the other hand, are a rotten toothed dragon lady with DISGUSTING tattoos and an even nastier, sick looking wrinkled grey dick. You might want to get that checked out, because it looks very SICK to me. Not only that, but you're clearly an EVIL person through and through. ALL you do ALL day everyday is sit on this useless board, saying the same useless things to the same useless people. You're a loser who lives with your mother. Still waiting for your father to drop dead so you can collect an inheritance so you can stop turning 200$ dates in 2 star hotels? Bitch go someplace with your 45 year old crossdressed ass. You make me want to puke.
Inheritance? Please, bitch. I work my ass off. Wtf do you do for coins? Shake down homos? And two star hotels? lol You're lost in a world of bad guess work, Ashley. I love it. :-) lol Ask ANYONE who knows me how I live, what I own, and where I earn my money. By all means.

And I am 45. So what? Do you hate Asians and people who are older than you?

Btw my dick is healthy and getting inverted soon. It's discolored from a hormone imbalance. Don't hate, trailer trash dude. lol

[KittyPride]

I meant to quote you, Kitty. Kitty, don't start throwing your sketchy two cents in. You're trying to understand, but you really don't.

Of course i know they are not exactly gay...but they are not straight either..

Those are bisexual men..at the very least...who take it up the ass...

The sexual dynamic that you advertise to validate your point (gg's with strap on's) is rather silly.

Yes there might be a few exceptions...but why would you want a boyfriend that acts like a sub sexually...and wants anal penetration?

I know a lot of woman...straight and they would never date a guy like that.

Once it even happened that a gg called me up in the middle of the night that her bf has stuffing all sorths of things up his ass...and she was freaked out...is he gay ?????

And yes he is bisexual ! He tried hitting on me before he met her...that was years ago...and i lived as a guy back then...

No straight man loves dick...or to be fucked by one...

There are straight men that date TS...but they wont take it up the ass sorry....

You are really fooling yourself..

Top and bttming are generally part of gay or bisexual sex...

In straight sex things tend to be a lot more "old fashioned"

[Nicole Dupre]

She didn't call you a gay man, Ashley. lol You called yourself gay, moron. You're really batting a thousand on credibility. You can't even accurately describe what she looks like. I mean, wtf. She really looks that Asian to you? You're truly lost. lol

[KittyPride]

Well,fuck my feelings then.....whatever,lol

Dont be like that lol...
But what would you do if you thought i looked good lol...

And what would i gain...if you want to get to know me personally...try pm or skype...

But....im in a relationship...so im not on the prowl so to speak...

Xx

[EvonRose]

Of course i know they are not exactly gay...but they are not straight either..

Those are bisexual men..at the very least...who take it up the ass...

The sexual dynamic that you advertise to validate your point (gg's with strap on's) is rather silly.

Yes there might be a few exceptions...but why would you want a boyfriend that acts like a sub sexually...and wants anal penetration?

I know a lot of woman...straight and they would never date a guy like that.

Once it even happened that a gg called me up in the middle of the night that her bf has stuffing all sorths of things up his ass...and she was freaked out...is he gay ?????

And yes he is bisexual ! He tried hitting on me before he met her...that was years ago...and i lived as a guy back then...

No straight man loves dick...or to be fucked by one...

There are straight men that date TS...but they wont take it up the ass sorry....

You are really fooling yourself..

Top and bttming are generally part of gay or bisexual sex...

In straight sex things tend to be a lot more "old fashioned"

To be fair Kitty many gg like submissive men, and like to use strap on to fuck them.

But i don't think Nicole and I are saying taking it up the as is straight, were just stating it does not make one gay.

By experience as a dominatrix I see many men who love anal plugs, and dildos put heir ass, but would don't like men...

It's not a gay, straight issue.

People have many different sexual preferences and fantasy... It is a normal part of human sexuality and has nothing to do with one's sexuality, or gender...

[Nicole Dupre]

Of course i know they are not exactly gay...but they are not straight either..

Those are bisexual men..at the very least...who take it up the ass...

The sexual dynamic that you advertise to validate your point (gg's with strap on's) is rather silly.

Yes there might be a few exceptions...but why would you want a boyfriend that acts like a sub sexually...and wants anal penetration?

I know a lot of woman...straight and they would never date a guy like that.

Once it even happened that a gg called me up in the middle of the night that her bf has stuffing all sorths of things up his ass...and she was freaked out...is he gay ?????

And yes he is bisexual ! He tried hitting on me before he met her...that was years ago...and i lived as a guy back then...

No straight man loves dick...or to be fucked by one...

There are straight men that date TS...but they wont take it up the ass sorry....

You are really fooling yourself..

Top and bttming are generally part of gay or bisexual sex...

In straight sex things tend to be a lot more "old fashioned"
Seriously, Kitty. I know we don't get down to the bottom line about this stuff too often on HA. But anal sex is sodomy. It's not homosexuality. Human sexuality is actually fluid. Homosexuality was looked at differently after this jackass wrote about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Krafft-Ebing But sodomy is what we're discussing here. Sodomy can be performed on women. A blow job is sodomy.

[KittyPride]

To be fair Kitty many gg like submissive men, and like to use strap on to fuck them.

But i don't think Nicole and I are saying taking it up the as is straight, were just stating it does not make one gay.

By experience as a dominatrix I see many men who love anal plugs, and dildos put heir ass, but would don't like men...

It's not a gay, straight issue.

People have many different sexual preferences and fantasy... It is a normal part of human sexuality and has nothing to do with one's sexuality, or gender...

Getting plugged and fucked with a strap-on IS different from being fucked by an actual penis...

Anyway...i never met a gg to date that desires submission from men...(i mean Sexual submission like anal play!)
But that might be because i dont hang round in the kinky scene etc...

I prefer dating men that dont even touch my dick but at the same time dont mind i have one...is that straight sex? I dont know...probably bisexual...

On the other hand; any guy that date a TS and does not ever feel like touching cock...might be more straight and masculine then most of the men out there
...
I like to think that at least....

Anyway...a guy, into anal really turns me off...he should be busy with my ass not his....and i should be busy with his cock...not mine...

I dont get girls that say they feel like woman but still enjoy gay/bisexual sex...

I freeze mentally...i just cant do it...so it is for a lot of gg's too....same goes for steaight men...

[EvonRose]

Getting plugged and fucked with a strap-on IS different from being fucked by an actual penis...

Anyway...i never met a gg to date that desires submission from men...(i mean Sexual submission like anal play!)
But that might be because i dont hang round in the kinky scene etc...

I prefer dating men that dont even touch my dick but at the same time dont mind i have one...is that straight sex? I dont know...probably bisexual...

On the other hand; any guy that date a TS and does not ever feel like touching cock...might be more straight and masculine then most of the men out there
...
I like to think that at least....

Anyway...a guy, into anal really turns me off...he should be busy with my ass not his....and i should be busy with his cock...not mine...

I dont get girls that say they feel like woman but still enjoy gay/bisexual sex...

I freeze mentally...i just cant do it...so it is for a lot of gg's too....same goes for steaight men...

Yes same for me don't date men who bottom, but that's my preference...

However I don't think anal play consist of being gay...

Yes I agree with you I don't get ts girls who want to be treated like a straight woman, but date gay or bi men as well... But to each their own.

[Nicole Dupre]

Btw, Ashley. Who am I bullying here? You stepped on here with you racist bullshit and started dissing Evon over what? I never used the word jealous. YOU did. Interesting.

Btw your dick is about as big as my pinky, and your legs are short and squatty. Your head is enormous. I mean physically; it's big.You're not built like a woman at all, when it really comes down to it. Your proportions are all fucked up. You have a slightly fishy face, I'll give you that. But it actually ends there. So get real, dirt bag. Maybe I should REALLY bully you. You don't know what stirring is, you ghetto rat.

[doctor screw]

Getting plugged and fucked with a strap-on IS different from being fucked by an actual penis...

Anyway...i never met a gg to date that desires submission from men...(i mean Sexual submission like anal play!)
But that might be because i dont hang round in the kinky scene etc...

I prefer dating men that dont even touch my dick but at the same time dont mind i have one...is that straight sex? I dont know...probably bisexual...

On the other hand; any guy that date a TS and does not ever feel like touching cock...might be more straight and masculine then most of the men out there
...
I like to think that at least....

Anyway...a guy, into anal really turns me off...he should be busy with my ass not his....and i should be busy with his cock...not mine...

I dont get girls that say they feel like woman but still enjoy gay/bisexual sex...

I freeze mentally...i just cant do it...so it is for a lot of gg's too....same goes for steaight men...

You're like a trans messiah

[KittyPride]

You're like a trans messiah

Haha well it certainly feels like a crucifixion lol

[hefzfavebunii]

Inheritance? Please, bitch. I work my ass off. Wtf do you do for coins? Shake down homos? And two star hotels? lol You're lost in a world of bad guess work, Ashley. I love it. :-) lol Ask ANYONE who knows me how I live, what I own, and where I earn my money. By all means.

And I am 45. So what? Do you hate Asians and people who are older than you?

Btw my dick is healthy and getting inverted soon. It's discolored from a hormone imbalance. Don't hate, trailer trash dude. lol

I don't need to ask anyone about you, one look tells me everything I need to know. You're sad, and the fact that you're getting SRS only confirms this. I see you reaching all the time on her, to validate your fragile identity.

"I knew I was a TS from the age of 2.." (Who remembers anything from the age of 2??)


"I have Klinefelters Syndrome but I'm too broke to afford the test..." Lmao


You obviously have some kind of problem with me for some time now, and I have no idea why. I never did anything to you or said anything about you behind your back. I'm sorry your website didn't work out, but that's not my fault or my problem.Trailer trash? I LOVE when people call me trailer trash, I grew up in an upper middle class neighborhood, in a lovely home. I was going to high school as a woman and working a job at 15 while you were a faggot sucking dicks on the highway, and you call ME trash??? I mean good Lord, just leave me alone and stop talking about my friends, without even having the balls to mention them by name! I'm sorry that you failed miserably but I had nothing to do with that.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL@page 70!

[hefzfavebunii]

Btw, Ashley. Who am I bullying here? You stepped on here with you racist bullshit and started dissing Evon over what? I never used the word jealous. YOU did. Interesting.

Btw your dick is about as big as my pinky, and your legs are short and squatty. Your head is enormous. I mean physically; it's big.You're not built like a woman at all, when it really comes down to it. Your proportions are all fucked up. You have a slightly fishy face, I'll give you that. But it actually ends there. So get real, dirt bag. Maybe I should REALLY bully you. You don't know what stirring is, you ghetto rat.

You calling anyone big is so laughable. DUDE you're like six foot two. Yeah Nicole, you are built like a woman. So much more than me. Tell ya what, come to Chicago this summer. We can go to North Avenue Beach, and stand in bikinis in front of the hockey rink and see what everyone thinks... Say whatever you want about me!! At the end of the day, you are HUGE, manly in the face with YELLOW teeth, pale bruised skin and a vest of cheap tattoos. Drop fucking dead you disgusting old gargoyle.

[KittyPride]

Btw, Ashley. Who am I bullying here? You stepped on here with you racist bullshit and started dissing Evon over what? I never used the word jealous. YOU did. Interesting.

Btw your dick is about as big as my pinky, and your legs are short and squatty. Your head is enormous. I mean physically; it's big.You're not built like a woman at all, when it really comes down to it. Your proportions are all fucked up. You have a slightly fishy face, I'll give you that. But it actually ends there. So get real, dirt bag. Maybe I should REALLY bully you. You don't know what stirring is, you ghetto rat.

Well nicole at least she told us you are 45yo...
And i think judging from your pictures you look good for your age lol
Im not sure i even want to make it till 45 lol

And you know...underneath all the talk i sense you can be a really nice person...

But it takes some time before you will show that side to anyone...i guess we need to deserve it first...

And life isnt great in this scene....all girls bitching at eachother pfff...
Thats why i have a lot of male friends...

The scene in my country makes me sad also...allthough there are some nice girls out there....but i dont like to be judged on my looks so much cause i already obsess over my looks in a bad way
....and tgirls tend to do that...i also hate compliments lol...i really do...

Only men that flirt with me can make me feel good cause i worship men lol..

Yeah i know...lol
I shouldnt...
But thats my fetish lol

[hefzfavebunii]

By the way, if you read back, ALL I said was "I prefer the company of gay men.."

EVON attacked me saying I was a gay man and "I'd look like a woman someday."

I didn't come here to debate with her, or have a beauty contest. SHE ATTACKED ME FIRST, but of course Nicole with your jealous hating ugly ass would use any excuse to attack me. Mind your own business faggot.

[EvonRose]

I don't think srs proves that one is insecure, it proves they are willing to go through a very life altering courageous procedure...

I commend post ops for their brave decisions, After all only a few of us get the srs so I commend all of them who do get it. Shows they are willing t take life by force and control their life without the distraction of the penis...

[doctor screw]

Well nicole at least she told us you are 45yo...
And i think judging from your pictures you look good for your age lol
Im not sure i even want to make it till 45 lol

And you know...underneath all the talk i sense you can be a really nice person...

But it takes some time before you will show that side to anyone...i guess we need to deserve it first...

And life isnt great in this scene....all girls bitching at eachother pfff...
Thats why i have a lot of male friends...

The scene in my country makes me sad also...allthough there are some nice girls out there....but i dont like to be judged on my looks so much cause i already obsess over my looks in a bad way
....and tgirls tend to do that...i also hate compliments lol...i really do...

Only men that flirt with me can make me feel good cause i worship men lol..

Yeah i know...lol
I shouldnt...
But thats my fetish lol

You seem to have your head on straight ,so stop talking to lil miss tranny Hitler,(Ashley)like she's a rational person ....thanks

[KittyPride]

"I knew I was a TS from the age of 2.." (Who remembers anything from the age of 2??)


I knew when i was 3yo honest !! I remember a lot from that time!
I am not bragging lol...
Its not something i like to do...just saying it is possible.

[EvonRose]

By the way, if you read back, ALL I said was "I prefer the company of gay men.."

EVON attacked me saying I was a gay man and "I'd look like a woman someday."

I didn't come here to debate with her, or have a beauty contest. SHE ATTACKED ME FIRST, but of course Nicole with your jealous hating ugly ass would use any excuse to attack me. Mind your own business faggot.

You seriously have a problem!


"I never said you were gay, I said if a gay man was attracted to you (impossible) then you have to be a gay man yourself...

It is scientifically impossible for a gay man to like women, or the female form.

I transitioned to become a full woman, why would a man need me to be happy?

Good job being defensive by the way, maybe too many people call you gay but I understand it's okay honey you will look like a woman one day.

Men like all kinds of things sexually, who died and left you the expert on what they would never like?

So sit the fuck down you gook, and don't call me honey.

I have never attacked you not he level you think I am... After you told me by your experience that you prefer to be with gay men because straight men have been mean to you I assume they called you gay man or your being defensive maybe because you didn't feel you look like a woman.

Selective reading?

So how do you explain your racist remark?

Your making up things in your head yet you like to call everyone delusional?

Do you not remember calling me delusional first? And I was desperate because I like straight men?

So who attacked who first?

[EvonRose]

I knew when i was 3yo honest !! I remember a lot from that time!
I am not bragging lol...
Its not something i like to do...just saying it is possible.

Real transexual know no matter how young they are that they are not men...

I can't speak for the tranny wannabe...

[KittyPride]

I don't think srs proves that one is insecure, it proves they are willing to go through a very life altering courageous procedure...

I commend post ops for their brave decisions, After all only a few of us get the srs so I commend all of them who do get it. Shows they are willing t take life by force and control their life without the distraction of the penis...

In my country srs is free...and almost all tgirls here get it...
I know this will make me sound very ugly lol...but im too insecure for it...

I rather be more feminine then my private parts then feel more masculine then my private parts...

Anyway im terribly insecure and when i get jealous of woman i somtimes even comfort myself with the idea that i am different and that i have a cock...lol

I dont want to compete with gg's as a post op and have all the disadvantages of being a TS....(harder to find serious men for a serious relationship)...

I like to remain "special" and "natural", but i may be misguiding myself...anyway it still kind of works for me...

Srs isnt going to solve my genderdysforia...only a magic wand can lol

[hefzfavebunii]

You seriously have a problem!


"I never said you were gay, I said if a gay man was attracted to you (impossible) then you have to be a gay man yourself...

It is scientifically impossible for a gay man to like women, or the female form.

I transitioned to become a full woman, why would a man need me to be happy?

Good job being defensive by the way, maybe too many people call you gay but I understand it's okay honey you will look like a woman one day.

Men like all kinds of things sexually, who died and left you the expert on what they would never like?

So sit the fuck down you gook, and don't call me honey.

I have never attacked you not he level you think I am... After you told me by your experience that you prefer to be with gay men because straight men have been mean to you I assume they called you gay man or your being defensive maybe because you didn't feel you look like a woman.

Selective reading?

So how do you explain your racist remark?

Your making up things in your head yet you like to call everyone delusional?

Do you not remember calling me delusional first? And I was desperate because I like straight men?

So who attacked who first?


What you said was "If a gay man is attracted to you, then you must be a gay man, you'll look like a woman SOMEDAY."

Thats what you said, and I took offense. I made a racist remark because I felt you attacked me, sorry bout it. It was rude but I felt attacked. I never called you desperate either.

[EvonRose]

In my country srs is free...and almost all tgirls here get it...
I know this will make me sound very ugly lol...but im too insecure for it...

I rather be more feminine then my private parts then feel more masculine then my private parts...

Anyway im terribly insecure and when i get jealous of woman i somtimes even comfort myself with the idea that i am different and that i have a cock...lol

I dont want to compete with gg's as a post op and have all the disadvantages of being a TS....(harder to find serious men for a serious relationship)...

I like to remain "special" and "natural", but i may be misguiding myself...anyway it still kind of works for me...

Srs isnt going to solve my genderdysforia...only a magic wand can lol

I have no problem being mixed in with the gg's I am comfortable enough to know i can hang with the best of them... I don't care what anyone says... I don't need my cock as validation that I'm special and unique. I am beautiful, artistic, fun, and free with or without srs....

[EvonRose]

What you said was "If a gay man is attracted to you, then you must be a gay man, you'll look like a woman SOMEDAY."

Thats what you said, and I took offense. I made a racist remark because I felt you attacked me, sorry bout it. It was rude but I felt attacked. I never called you desperate either.

Yeah but ashley you said worst things to me than desperate, so it's not fair for you to blame me for starting a fight when you called me so many things you really didn't have to.

Like this...

"Bitch you're way off base. If anyone's a gay man here it's you. An open bottom who transitioned to get fucked in the ass because you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman.. haha. You're the biggest moron on this board. I know plenty of gay men who think just like you do. "OOOH if I transition I'll get straight guys to fuck me TEHEHE!!" You're delusional, and an idiot."

Just next time watch what you say because people like me don't take insults, we will fight you back... I don't tolerate disrespect, racist remarks, or attacks... Just calm down a bit, and try to listen to people, I'm not attacking.

[KittyPride]

I have no problem being mixed in with the gg's I am comfortable enough to know i can hang with the best of them... I don't care what anyone says... I don't need my cock as validation that I'm special and unique. I am beautiful, artistic, fun, and free with or without srs....

Thats great...
Its not that i feel bad about myself...i love myself and my self worth i find in my soul...not my body...
Its just that i dont feel like a TS
My body and this whole situation will always be different from my feelings and desires...so then if i have to choose i see more advantage for me remaining pre-op....
I also talked to a lot of post op woman...and i am not under the impression that a lot of them are happy...i dont know...

Its a big step and im still too insecure for it

[hefzfavebunii]

Yeah but ashley you said worst things to me than desperate, so it's not fair for you to blame me for starting a fight when you called me so many things you really didn't have to.

Like this...

"Bitch you're way off base. If anyone's a gay man here it's you. An open bottom who transitioned to get fucked in the ass because you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman.. haha. You're the biggest moron on this board. I know plenty of gay men who think just like you do. "OOOH if I transition I'll get straight guys to fuck me TEHEHE!!" You're delusional, and an idiot."

Just next time watch what you say because people like me don't take insults, we will fight you back... I don't tolerate disrespect, racist remarks, or attacks... Just calm down a bit, and try to listen to people, I'm not attacking.

Yeah, I'm trying this "being nice" kick and it's not working. Anyways, you have a right to make your own reality, and I won't judge that. As long as you don't judge mine, deal? :)

[EvonRose]

Thats great...
Its not that i feel bad about myself...i love myself and my self worth i find in my soul...not my body...
Its just that i dont feel like a TS
My body and this whole situation will always be different from my feelings and desires...so then if i have to choose i see more advantage for me remaining pre-op....
I also talked to a lot of post op woman...and i am not under the impression that a lot of them are happy...i dont know...

Its a big step and im still too insecure for it

If your not happy with the dangling, maybe your a good candidate for the cutting... lol...

[EvonRose]

Yeah, I'm trying this "being nice" kick and it's not working. Anyways, you have a right to make your own reality, and I won't judge that. As long as you don't judge mine, deal? :)

Oh I never judge....

But your young like me and we tend to be very emotional trust me, I'm like the queen of emotional here on the forum. I argue a lot and talk shit.

But never use racist remark, because your so pretty for that kind of things, you don't want that. Be smart and classy and cheeky.. lol..

[KittyPride]

If your not happy with the dangling, maybe your a good candidate for the cutting... lol...

I know a very nice looking feminine TS that has been living like a woman for 15 years and she still doubt about getting srs or not lol...

I thought okay...im probably going to be like her...

I have doubt about a lot of things...
Srs i told myself ill do if i have nothing left to loose...still it might be the best thing to ever happen to me...

But how can you be sure?
What if something goes wrong pff

[BLKGSXR]

Oh I never judge....

But your young like me and we tend to be very emotional trust me, I'm like the queen of emotional here on the forum. I argue a lot and talk shit.

But never use racist remark, because your so pretty for that kind of things, you don't want that. Be smart and classy and cheeky.. lol..
Schawggin

[EvonRose]

I know a very nice looking feminine TS that has been living like a woman for 15 years and she still doubt about getting srs or not lol...

I thought okay...im probably going to be like her...

I have doubt about a lot of things...
Srs i told myself ill do if i have nothing left to loose...still it might be the best thing to ever happen to me...

But how can you be sure?
What if something goes wrong pff

What if everything goes perfect? Your so worried about it being imperfect you might miss out on a good life... What if one day your srs gets you a job, or an opportunity in life to make lots of money, the perfect husband?

Look at the miss universe, you think she would be able to compete if she had her penis? No but now she does and she can compete as a gg... Opportunities and happiness can come with it, you live once so jump off the clift.

[KittyPride]

Thats great...
Its not that i feel bad about myself...i love myself and my self worth i find in my soul...not my body...
Its just that i dont feel like a TS
My body and this whole situation will always be different from my feelings and desires...so then if i have to choose i see more advantage for me remaining pre-op....
I also talked to a lot of post op woman...and i am not under the impression that a lot of them are unhappy...i dont know...

Its a big step and im still too insecure for it

Shit my mistake...correction in bold...

Pff i need to sleep xxx byeee

[KittyPride]

What if everything goes perfect? Your so worried about it being imperfect you might miss out on a good life... What if one day your srs gets you a job, or an opportunity in life to make lots of money, the perfect husband?

Look at the miss universe, you think she would be able to compete if she had her penis? No but now she does and she can compete as a gg... Opportunities and happiness can come with it, you live once so jump off the clift.

I dont think srs will get me a job or husband...i can get that without srs too.
There are actually really some nice guys out there that treat you like woman despite your genitals...usually...they are 40plus though....but i love older men...i am 33...so im not the youngest anymore either...

That miss universe might be pretty to some...but i personally would feel fake after so much plastic surgery...ffs srs etc...

I dont think she is beautifull coz she is not natural looking

[Nicole Dupre]

Proportionately, yes. You have squatty legs, Ashley. What can I tell you? You lost some weight, it's true. But there are plenty of photos revealing your gut. So wear your bikini with your gay friends and have fun. But your thighs have a funny shape as well. Your proportions are just odd, if you must know. And if height has anything to do with anything, tell that to Sunny or Jennifer Paris. lol You think being 5 and half feet tall is necessarily fishy? lol That's laughable. I'm just under 6' tall. Elle McPherson is taller.

And if you don't appreciate tattoos, great. You're not very worldly or open to anything new. That's pretty obvious. And god knows you have no appreciation for Asians or Asian culture.

Snd SRS is a foreign concept to you it seems. Not to me. I've always wanted it. I will leave you behind in gay boy land and not think twice. lol

But let me tell you, you obviously do like reading what I say. That's for sure. ;-) But if you want to compare my life to yours, and it weighs heavily on your mind, you're not going to like the truth. In fact, some things are better left alone. ;-) lol But I can see what your story is, since we're going there. And it's an angry and sad one. Something obviously fell through with your family. Because last you told me Mimi was beating you up, no one in Chicago was your friend, and you were moving back to NY state to be with them. What happened? Something bad? I would never be your friend after all of your insanity and lies, but that sounded pretty real. But I guess it fell through. And all the back and forth and crying about Mimi, and now you're not friends. And I know you have your fallings out with Jasmine, but you have your business arrangement.

But you're just odd. Definitely not a satisfied person. I don't hate you, but you do ask give off a LOT of negativity. And you will attract it. I can see the cycle with you is a work in progress. lol

Oh, and you're right. I don't remember insisting that I was a girl when I was 2; my mother and grandmother do. lol And it's true. But Jasmine? How any TS who could do such a 180 of gender extremes, I don't know. The thing is, I know people who know the old Jasmine from Chicago. ;-) Wow. Creepy stories. lol But I wish nothing bad on her either. But that's one person I don't want in my life, just like you; creepy. lol But I had enough respect not to bring her up until now. But do you want me to? lol

But best of luck to you Ashley. I'll keep in mind you're on the edge of my every word. ;-) lol

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm not sure I'm getting SRS either. It's something I used to want badly. We'll see. But I have a feeling it will happen in about 2 years. I'm gonna start doing the psych testing by next fall, just to see.

[GrimFusion]

Is another reason it's hard to date trans-women because of the contempt many transsexual woman seem to have towards men?
Not really? I mean, are you equating contempt with mistrust? I'd imagine by the time dude's get familiar enough to date, any real sense of contempt for men would be gone. Contempt would make transwomen not want to date men in the first place. I'd say there's a genuine mistrust when anybody gets mistreated in relationship after relationship, and it simply becomes assumed that anybody new will resort to the same behaviors exhibited in past relationships. That's a problem dating anyone. It's a little more prolific in trans communities, but I'd figure that's mostly due to the kind of men who end up mistreating transwomen anyway. Vicious cycle shit, ya dig? Bitches like bad dudes, and all that other cliche crap.


I have never really understand the hate and how loosely the term "tranny chaser" is thrown about.
Artificial superiority complex? How else are you going to mentally separate from public misunderstanding? If you can't change someone's confused opinions and you can't walk away, it's way easier just to think you're better than them. Even though it sounds backward, it's more mature than endlessly bickering with dudes.


Also why the word shemale is such a sacrilege, besides it being a porn term. Some get mad, because of it having "male" in it. Well so does female = FE-MALE...
It's a porn term. It's like calling an escort a prostitute. It's practically the same thing, but it sounds more insulting. Sadly, half the dudes that refer to transwomen as shemales don't know it's insulting. The other half are purposefully goating. Tripping out on them is easier than determining which one is which and attempting to educate. Then again, this is a porn forum. Do we really need transwomen jumping from thread to thread and explaining why posts are insulting? Fuck that. Shit takes too much time.


Then you got the transsexuals who want this prince charming sort of man that has never been with a transsexual and would never ever want to be with another transsexual besides her or be attracted to another transsexual. It's like get a GRIP on reality...
Reality check. You've never felt like that? I figure you have and you matured past it by experience. Everybody has fantasies, even if they aren't necessarily sexual. Eventually most of the girls get it, so the issue works itself out.


Then a man is called a 'tranny chaser' due to the fact he has slept around with so many girls. Well girls men do the same with women...and if they dated one tgirl he may want to date another tgirl...
We're totally sluts. I'm such a slut, I've been sleeping with the same woman for the last five years. She calls it a serious relationship, but I'm just in it for the boring and predictable sex. lol. Dudes that aren't sluts still get called chasers. That's not the reason dudes get called chasers in the first place. Dudes that just want the dick are chasers. Dudes that can't be seen in public kissing other dudes but have a perma-woody for anything in a dress with a bulge... that's a chaser. Guys who run game like they're interested, but hit&quit, then move on... that's a chaser. Unfortunately, the same term ends up getting applied to just about any dude in any kind of non-favorable situation.


Or how insensitive transsexuals are to the men who are interested in them. It's like don't you remember what it was like to come out to your friends and family, the male has to deal with something similar who dates you. If you just gave the guy a chance he may not be such a bad guy after all. I just find transsexuals seem to demonize men. Maybe, but what's the alternative? "We've been dating for four months, but it's totally okay that you haven't introduced me to anybody you know, honey". That's a bad sign. To any dude in a month-long relationship, hearing "You haven't introduced me to your mother yet!" is also a bad sign. Is that a valid generalization to make about the majority of transwomen? Fuck if I know, I just haven't heard of anything like that happening.


Do you think you would be more willing to date a transsexual woman if so many didn't have so many hang ups on men?

Or what is your perception...

I know this thread is going to cause a commotion and some hate...

But I think transsexuals have had their say on men on here 100 times over, so why not let the men INTELLECTUALLY (not disrespectfully) say theirs...

Just a few thoughts I had and a blog I want to write so it would be great to get some views from men.

It's tit for tat, and a little more tit than tat when tempers flare. People eventually realize they're being over-scrutinizing or biased and they mature. If they don't, they end up friendless and alone. Fuck'em.

[GrimFusion]

http://www.nikki-dupre.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/anigif-LOIS.gif
Damn, Nicole... those are some sweet-ass lens flares.
No lightning bolts, though? Lens flares and lightning bolts are a photoshopper's best friend. lol.

[mathematics1900]

Wow, literally read this entire thread and I learned quite a bit. Kelly Shore, I have always been a long time admirer of your physical body, and never would of imagined before reading your numerous posts that you would possess such insight and intuition about people. I agree with basically everything you've said, you are truly an enlightened individual.

Evon, I've read a lot of what you've said and I have thought long and hard about your particular stances, and this story says it best:


"I recently dated a guy in Miami who I felt was a chaser, but I gave him the benefit until I started seeing the signs...he never had time to take me out. Only time he had was to see me in my place for sex. And when we did [HAVE SEX] he would leave as oppose to staying with me for the night or courting.

Courting is the step people take before they move on to sleeping with each other. This man wasn't courting you, you were sleeping with him and expecting him to stick around. If you want men to stick around the last thing you should do is sleep with them...


This was very unhealthy and I don't like men like that. I am too good, to be handled so carelessly, and I deserve better, he used me and he lied to me...Straight men don't treat me this way, they take me out for dinner, or wine, or movies... But I never feel comfortable with a chaser...But regardless we risk it giving a guy a chance, and it's the guys chance to prove himself worthy. If not we are the only ones who get hurt by it. So we have to protect that.

Of course it was unhealthy, but not in the way you believe. It was unhealthy because your expectations for the relationship are unrealistic. I just don't understand how you can be a working girl and be so naive to the true behaviors of men?

This is just a theory, but you can't move past differences until those differences have been acknowledged. You want to be treated like a genetic girl, but guess what? You aren't a genetic girl, and you are never going to be a genetic girl. That wasn't in your cards, that isn't who you are, you might have the emotional frame, the mindset, and even the soul of a woman, but unfortunately you weren't lucky enough to be born into a woman's body. This is your plight, the cross you'll be carrying until you die.

It is the same non-sense as telling black people they are the same as white people. No they aren't, there are anatomical differences, there are cultural differences, different family structures, and different core values inside the communities. Now how are we ever supposed to move past all these differences if nobody wants to bring them up?

Unfortunately psychology is a very young science, and I think a lot of confusion occurs when the normal turbulence of life gets intermingled with the negative internal dialog most people on this board have been experiencing their entire lives. Who here is really open to change, because I still see the gay community ostracizing the transgender community, the transgender community ostracizing their fanbase (non-100% hetero-men), and the rest of the world confused about how to treat all these groups. Hard to look at the big picture though because each individual is trying to simply find acceptance. So after all this, the long spiel, what I was really trying to say Evon, about what your problem is and why you have the attitude you do...you're just lonely.

[KittyPride]

I'm not sure I'm getting SRS either. It's something I used to want badly. We'll see. But I have a feeling it will happen in about 2 years. I'm gonna start doing the psych testing by next fall, just to see.

Why would you...if you can live with the fact that you are build differently...and if you can enjoy it...i would not do it...but im no expert on anyone's feelings or life...

Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.

[KittyPride]

Not really? I mean, are you equating contempt with mistrust? I'd imagine by the time dude's get familiar enough to date, any real sense of contempt for men would be gone. Contempt would make transwomen not want to date men in the first place. I'd say there's a genuine mistrust when anybody gets mistreated in relationship after relationship, and it simply becomes assumed that anybody new will resort to the same behaviors exhibited in past relationships. That's a problem dating anyone. It's a little more prolific in trans communities, but I'd figure that's mostly due to the kind of men who end up mistreating transwomen anyway. Vicious cycle shit, ya dig? Bitches like bad dudes, and all that other cliche crap.


Artificial superiority complex? How else are you going to mentally separate from public misunderstanding? If you can't change someone's confused opinions and you can't walk away, it's way easier just to think you're better than them. Even though it sounds backward, it's more mature than endlessly bickering with dudes.


It's a porn term. It's like calling an escort a prostitute. It's practically the same thing, but it sounds more insulting. Sadly, half the dudes that refer to transwomen as shemales don't know it's insulting. The other half are purposefully goating. Tripping out on them is easier than determining which one is which and attempting to educate. Then again, this is a porn forum. Do we really need transwomen jumping from thread to thread and explaining why posts are insulting? Fuck that. Shit takes too much time.


Reality check. You've never felt like that? I figure you have and you matured past it by experience. Everybody has fantasies, even if they aren't necessarily sexual. Eventually most of the girls get it, so the issue works itself out.


We're totally sluts. I'm such a slut, I've been sleeping with the same woman for the last five years. She calls it a serious relationship, but I'm just in it for the boring and predictable sex. lol. Dudes that aren't sluts still get called chasers. That's not the reason dudes get called chasers in the first place. Dudes that just want the dick are chasers. Dudes that can't be seen in public kissing other dudes but have a perma-woody for anything in a dress with a bulge... that's a chaser. Guys who run game like they're interested, but hit&quit, then move on... that's a chaser. Unfortunately, the same term ends up getting applied to just about any dude in any kind of non-favorable situation.

Maybe, but what's the alternative? "We've been dating for four months, but it's totally okay that you haven't introduced me to anybody you know, honey". That's a bad sign. To any dude in a month-long relationship, hearing "You haven't introduced me to your mother yet!" is also a bad sign. Is that a valid generalization to make about the majority of transwomen? Fuck if I know, I just haven't heard of anything like that happening.



It's tit for tat, and a little more tit than tat when tempers flare. People eventually realize they're being over-scrutinizing or biased and they mature. If they don't, they end up friendless and alone. Fuck'em.

Nice post Grim!

[pimpdog]

About the guys not sticking around, alot of girls look ALOT less passable after a guy cums, just the honest truth.

[yosi]

I prefer a boyfriend in every city...

you are a men chaser :twisted:

[KittyPride]

This is just a theory, but you can't move past differences until those differences have been acknowledged. You want to be treated like a genetic girl, but guess what? You aren't a genetic girl, and you are never going to be a genetic girl. That wasn't in your cards, that isn't who you are, you might have the emotional frame, the mindset, and even the soul of a woman, but unfortunately you weren't lucky enough to be born into a woman's body. This is your plight, the cross you'll be carrying until you die.


The difference is that men expects us to be men...but when they find out we are not interested in fucking them...they run...same goes for a lot of men that just dont date us out of prejudice.
I know i can be a great girlfriend...but since the world thinks of TS as MEN instead of woman...you dont get the chance....and when a guy falls for you...and finds out you are a TS...he has to deal with these prejudices also...he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the world...cause we are considered men...that the difference.

[KittyPride]

I did not have my friends and family say that i am any different from a girl...not even my boyfriend...nor anyone i meet at work or on the streets...
Just the fact that i was born a TS makes me a man to a lot of prejudiced people...and thats the shit we deal with...

[GrimFusion]

About the guys not sticking around, alot of girls look ALOT less passable after a guy cums, just the honest truth.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You best be trollin', sucka. That's fuckin' funny, though in a creepy, disrespectful way I just couldn't imagine myself 'getting behind'.

[Nicole Dupre]

Why would you...if you can live with the fact that you are build differently...and if you can enjoy it...i would not do it...but im no expert on anyone's feelings or life...

Still srs does not change a lot i think....its not like you suddenly stop being a TS...
You change...
From pre op Ts to post op TS.
You're funny. lol Really? Oh, wow. I had no idea. I thought they'd install ovaries and a birth canal too, and that I'd menstruate once a month. *smfh

No shit, Eartha Kitt. I don't want it to change because I believe my internal plumbing will be changed. I want it purely for cosmetic reasons. If you must know, it's castration that puts me off more than the rest of it. Castration is often what girls say changed their perspective on it the most; that they weren't prepared for it emotionally. I have the tiniest little nuts anyway, but they do seem to still work. lol As Ashley and my ex so tactfully pointed out, "all you trannys have brown dicks, balls, and assholes". And it's somewhat true if you're on hormones. I actually see it in LOTS of photos here. If I remember correctly, Domino and Hazel Tucker have it too.I forget what they call it, but it's from hormones. It's just the pigmentation of the skin. It's nothing a doctor's going to get alarmed over, but I'm not especially fond of it either. So they can jam the whole thing inside me and shape it into a cunt for all I care anyway. lol I think cocks on any chick look fucking GROSS TBH....

(Countdown to some dick-thirsty loser disagreeing with me. lol)