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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Remember that she put a LOT of black men in prison while AG in CA.


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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    It would take less than 1% of voters to flip to change the result, and more than that have been changing their minds in recent elections. This is actually the first time since the 19th century that the White House has changed hands three elections running.
    I'd have to look up individual state margins to check on this, but Trump moved the margins to the right in nearly EVERY state this time around. And this is with his VERY HIGH negatives. He's off the ballot next time and if he even does a half decent job this time, then JD Vance will eat the lunch or any potential dem candidate in 2028. I myself never liked Trump, but he was Better than the alternative, and his policies were good for Most Americans, especially the poorer citizens.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    But isn't this an aggregate statistic?
    No, it's based on the margin of 1.7% in the tipping point state (Pennsylvania). The margins in Michigan and Wisconsin were smaller, and if those three states went the other way then the result would change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_U...ntial_election

    There's every chance that many of the predictions made after this election will look silly in 4 years time, just as many of the predictions made 4 years ago look silly now.



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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Remember that she put a LOT of black men in prison while AG in CA.
    You were complaining about crime before and now you are complaining about criminals being locked up?


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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Remember that she put a LOT of black men in prison while AG in CA.
    Democrats seem to have FORGOT this and continue to be confused as to why she didn't win the Black vote even during the 2020 primaries and still wondered why she didn't win in 2024.


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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFanti View Post
    Democrats seem to have FORGOT this and continue to be confused as to why she didn't win the Black vote even during the 2020 primaries and still wondered why she didn't win in 2024.
    Are you saying Harris lost 'the Black vote' (what is that? You have questioned its assumptions before) because of her record as Attorney General of California, and not because of the record of Biden and Harris over the last 4 years?

    A Daniel lost to judgment!


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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    You were complaining about crime before and now you are complaining about criminals being locked up?
    I NEVER said that the people she put away back then did or didn't deserve it; that was in CA and it was some 20 years ago. Nut Now it's a free for all in these cities because there is no fear of any negative consequence from committing these crimes. and she encouraged funding for release of the MN rioters back in 2020, while Minneapolis was burning, and its then governor waited for several days before calling up troops to finally start to stem the violence.

    That all said, the primary reason for her defeat was the abysmal performance of her and biden the past 5 4 years and the continued gaslighting / straight out lying to the American people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    That all said, the primary reason for her defeat was the abysmal performance of her and biden the past 5 4 years and the continued gaslighting / straight out lying to the American people.
    Here's a thought. Rather than endless, repetitive rubbishing of the outgoing administration, how about you actually talk about what the incoming administration is likely to do? It's kind of weird that you voted for the guy, yet you avoid any discussion of his policies, apart from you go-to line that the alternative would be worse. Are you really going to spend the next 4 years saying that?


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    Well, first, he wants to bring back US oil independence (by oil I also mean natural gas as appropriate) and extend it to oil dominance. This will have several effects:

    It will lower the global price of oil, which will weaken petrol-chemical dependent countries like iran and russia.
    It will lower the price of fuels here dramatically. This will have the further effect of lowering the transportation component of all goods and services sold here, and thus actually help LOWER prices for goods of all types here, because even if inflation goes to zero, that does not mean prices will drop.

    Second he wants to lessen the regulatory burden here, which is the opposite of the feckless, foppish dolt has done for the past 4 years. It's actually needed for the above to take full effect. And no I do NOT mean pollute the hell out of the US. Our energy production is among the cleanest in the world.


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    Default Re: 2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Our energy production is among the cleanest in the world.
    Your evidence for this claim is what? Come on, produce a credible source.



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