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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Gasoline is now down 26 cents / gal from last Tuesday. Still too high (and the 110 Octane I need for my DVC is over $10 / gal), but we will get back to 2019 levels soon enough, and that WILL lower prices on Everything that needs to be shipped around the planet.

    Europe will now take steps to import US NatGas instead of ruisian exports.
    Seriously?

    Where does the EU’s gas come from? - Consilium


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Gasoline is now down 26 cents / gal from last Tuesday. Still too high (and the 110 Octane I need for my DVC is over $10 / gal), but we will get back to 2019 levels soon enough, and that WILL lower prices on Everything that needs to be shipped around the planet.
    This reminds me of Rupert Murdoch's prediction that the Iraq invasion would lead to oil prices falling to $20 a barrel. In fact, they ended up rising as high as $140.

    As some wise person said, "Never make predictions, especially about the future".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    so,,,,, they are STILL buying it from the ruskies!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    so,,,,, they are STILL buying it from the ruskies!!!
    I suggest you write to your King and his Prince, who both seem to have a direct line to Vladimir Putin that they use on a regular basis, or maybe it's ok for you Americans to fist the Russians while you complain that Europeans get barely 3% of their gas resources from Russia, presumably because they are foolish enough to honour contracts that were signed before Trump and Musk's boyfriend went rogue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    I suggest you write to your King and his Prince, who both seem to have a direct line to Vladimir Putin that they use on a regular basis, or maybe it's ok for you Americans to fist the Russians while you complain that Europeans get barely 3% of their gas resources from Russia, presumably because they are foolish enough to honour contracts that were signed before Trump and Musk's boyfriend went rogue.
    It wasn't always 3% and russian oil is still exported into europe as well.

    I don't have a king, and neither does any US citizen. we took care of that about 250 years ago.



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    Gasoline here was about 99 cents / gal for permium back in 2003. I had two cars that Required premium fuel, so I remember that quite well. Then when o took over it shot up to some $4 / gal, then back down under Trump to about $1.85 / gal, then to nearly $5 / gal under the demented dolt, and it's still more than $1.25 higher then back at the end of 2019. These are FL prices, not CA where it was $1.5-$2.5 higher. I still have one car that Requires premium 93 octane plus 2-3 gallons per tank of 110 octane just to run it safely. The other 3 cars run better on premium, but won't damage themselves on regular (87 octane).

    Yeah, 4 cars, and only because I can't fit 5.


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    Climate denial a unifying theme of Trump’s cabinet picks, experts say
    Loyalists selected for important roles have offered staunch support to fossil fuels and downplayed climate crisis:

    Climate denial a unifying theme of Trump’s cabinet picks, experts say | Climate crisis | The Guardian


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Climate denial a unifying theme of Trump’s cabinet picks, experts say
    Loyalists selected for important roles have offered staunch support to fossil fuels and downplayed climate crisis:

    Climate denial a unifying theme of Trump’s cabinet picks, experts say | Climate crisis | The Guardian
    On the other side of the ugly 2 party bird, there's this:

    Addressing Modern Slavery In The Clean Energy Sector
    https://assets.cleanenergycouncil.or...rgy-Sector.pdf

    And contrary to what's being portrayed, NO ONE is doing it for the good of planet - they're doing it to get rich.....
    The 10 Richest Green Energy Billionaires In 2021
    https://www.forbesmiddleeast.com/bil...naires-in-2021


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFanti View Post
    On the other side of the ugly 2 party bird, there's this:

    Addressing Modern Slavery In The Clean Energy Sector
    https://assets.cleanenergycouncil.or...rgy-Sector.pdf

    And contrary to what's being portrayed, NO ONE is doing it for the good of planet - they're doing it to get rich.....
    The 10 Richest Green Energy Billionaires In 2021
    https://www.forbesmiddleeast.com/bil...naires-in-2021
    Do you think it's going to help if the US abandons clean energy and leaves China to dominate the market? https://www.politico.com/news/2024/1...na-us-00191049

    Unless you are proposing to do away with capitalism, the issue isn't whether people make money. It's whether they make money out of things that adversely affect the rest of society.


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    Do you think it's going to help if the US abandons clean energy and leaves China to dominate the market? https://www.politico.com/news/2024/1...na-us-00191049

    Unless you are proposing to do away with capitalism, the issue isn't whether people make money. It's whether they make money out of things that adversely affect the rest of society.
    We are not abandoning clean energy. Our energy production is orders of magnitude clean than china and india.



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