Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

[Stavros]

Sorry Faldur, this thread is about a change of climate, not a change of clothes, even if you do look swell in a Lei and shorts...I was in Seattle once -it was on my itinerary and I am a devotee of The Parallax View- but oh dear, once you have been up the space needle, it is awfully dull -but thats before Amanda K was born...

[russtafa]

i believe in climate change it's even have divided into four seasons a year on the calendar ,spring,summer ,autumn ,winter

[trish]

Now russtafa, you're being an idiot. The change of seasons is not a change in climate and indeed a stable climate would display the periodic seasonal fluctuations that accompany the relative tilt of the Earth with respect to the Sun as it orbits the same.

The present climate shift is due to the energy imbalance caused by a relatively constant mean input of solar energy but a diminishing capacity to radiate energy away into space due to the increasing volume of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. One effect in the Northern Hemisphere is a northward shift of flora and fauna. Another is the melting of the Arctic Ice Cap.

This is not the first time the overabundance of a biological family created a massive atmospheric change. Before the evolution of photosynthesis the atmosphere has just about zero oxygen. Oxygen breathers wouldn't have survived. The oxygen now in the atmosphere was dumped there by oxygen producing plants.

[russtafa]

Now russtafa, you're being an idiot. The change of seasons is not a change in climate and indeed a stable climate would display the periodic seasonal fluctuations that accompany the relative tilt of the Earth with respect to the Sun as it orbits the same.

The present climate shift is due to the energy imbalance caused by a relatively constant mean input of solar energy but a diminishing capacity to radiate energy away into space due to the increasing volume of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. One effect in the Northern Hemisphere is a northward shift of flora and fauna. Another is the melting of the Arctic Ice Cap.

This is not the first time the overabundance of a biological family created a massive atmospheric change. Before the evolution of photosynthesis the atmosphere has just about zero oxygen. Oxygen breathers wouldn't have survived. The oxygen now in the atmosphere was dumped there by oxygen producing plants.

yeah, yeah, yeah,when i see all the rich folks selling up along the harbour i will know its real and not a scam

[Prospero]

Well ignoring the words of blithering fools here, my response to the initial question here is YES. Unless we do something. James Lovelock of the Gaia principle believes it is already too late.

[russtafa]

Well ignoring the words of blithering fools here, my response to the initial question here is YES. Unless we do something. James Lovelock of the Gaia principle believes it is already too late.

yes so why should they pay any attention to you

[russtafa]

Gaia principle is that hippies and rolling joints and beat the establishment maaaaaan lol

[Prospero]

The fools response. In the face of vast scientific evidence. Yep guys - it is, of course, all a vast conspiracy.

[russtafa]

The fools response. In the face of vast scientific evidence. Yep guys - it is, of course, all a vast conspiracy.

yep a fools response but some idiots will always buy magic beans

[trish]

yep a fools response but some idiots will always buy magic beans

Exactly. There's science and then there's "magic." There's intellectual integrity and there are lies. The wonderful (and truly incredible) news that we can burn all the fossil fuel and release all the long sequestered carbon dioxide we want without disrupting the dynamic thermal equilibrium of the atmosphere is the bag of beans being sold to you by the big oil corporations. Follow the really big money.