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doctor screw
10-10-2012, 01:47 AM
Ashurajou no Hitomi
danthepoetman
10-10-2012, 02:27 AM
never seen it. The Cigs Comment was to Dino. I should have quoted the conversation to keep things in context . We where discussing horror movies and he said there was only one thing missing ...
Yes, I realized it after posting. Dino has got more than a few pointers on horror movies. He knows more on the subject than anyone I know. Haven’t been able to suggest anything to him he doesn’t already know… Sometimes he can give me a title if I only give him a few elements of narrative. He’s just amazing!
Dino, maybe you should start a blog or something! :)
I love horror! Most serious movies end up being pretentious or badly made. With horror, you just let go and enjoy. Even when it’s really bad, you just enjoy it because it’s bad!
GoddessAthena85
10-10-2012, 02:33 AM
Yes, I realized it after posting. Dino has got more than a few pointers on horror movies. He knows more on the subject than anyone I know. Haven’t been able to suggest anything to him he doesn’t already know… Sometimes he can give me a title if I only give him a few elements of narrative. He’s just amazing!
Dino, maybe you should start a blog or something! :)
I love horror! Most serious movies end up being pretentious or badly made. With horror, you just let go and enjoy. Even when it’s really bad, you just enjoy it because it’s bad!
:iagree: 100%
Stavros
10-14-2012, 01:10 PM
Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
A charming film about two rebellious early teens; the film avoids a lot of cliches, and is better written than most films these days, and the story is even believable. The weakness in the film is the rebellious scoutlet, the actor gives a one-dimensional acting performance set against an improbably good-looking girl -it would have made more sense if the girl were, for example, overweight and not pretty, but that's the movies.
Winkle
10-14-2012, 02:32 PM
IP MAN
http://mimg.sulekha.com/english/ip-man/stills/ip-man-018.jpg
An awesome storyline based on Bruce Lee's mentor. Very well made throughout.
Prospero
10-14-2012, 05:19 PM
A Danish film called The Hunt which was a very powerful drama about a kindergarten teacher wrongfully accused of paedophilia. (In the present moral panic sparked by the Jimmy Saville affair in the UK it seemed even more pertinent). A study of how a simple accusation can turn into a life wrecking witch hunt. It does not avoid the moral and social complexities.
RallyCola
10-14-2012, 05:25 PM
i saw 7 Psychopaths yesterday and Argo on Friday.
Argo is a good movie but obviously there is nothing new there as it is based on a true story...the affleck is actually good in it.
7 Psychopaths is not a very good movie. it has promise but doesn't know if it wants to be an action dark comedy or art house film and it gets lost in the middle.
Dino Velvet
10-14-2012, 06:58 PM
Ilsa She Wolf Of The SS 1975 UNCUT - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWP-lXatFU)
Ilsa, Harem Keeper Of The Oil Sheiks - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpAR0gaGsLY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op1rVIoDXAg
Ilsa The Tigress Of Siberia (1977) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDGDXSwVeo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGqcxmTSOGs
Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma (1975) [MultiSub] [HD] - [Paolo Pasolini] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R0HupqJ6E8)
Dino Velvet
10-14-2012, 07:49 PM
Antichrist - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-TNfPzh_k)
Antichrist (2009) [Full Movie] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00wvXMsgbeM)
Stavros
10-15-2012, 05:40 PM
Howl (Epstein & Friedman, 2011)
On BBC last night -I wasn't expecting much, and yet was hooked on this film and loved every minunte of it -Franco's voice is too falsetto compared to Ginsberg's own, but the animation is great and the concentration of the film around the trial and the taping of memories gives it a digestible form. Oddly, given the importance of jazz to ginsburg and the beats, it was mostly absent from the film. Also, this is a documentary rather than a feature film, but given how hard it is to make a film about poetry (some of the best films are in their own way, a form of visual poetry) this is an outstanding success. Ginsburg remains a major figure in 20th century literature, yet these days poetry never shocks, nor does literature. Those were the days! Also there is a sly cheating in the film when Ginsburgsays something that is actually a quote from Gregory Corso's poem Marriage, also linked below. Enjoy!
'Howl' Trailer HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba9yazkl0UE)
Gregory Corso reads his poem "Marriage" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXp2eyC2oaQ)
Prospero
10-20-2012, 11:33 AM
A new film called "Quartet" starring Maggie Smith. Tom Courtney, Billy Connolly, Michael Gambon, Pauline Collins and a host of old retired musicians. It is set in a retirement home for old musicians. An affable and genteel comedy. It is the first film directed by Dustin Hoffman who i met in London with Courtney, Connolly, Collins and Gambon at a screening. Hoffman and Connolly very funny in person - and its hard to believe that Hoffman is now 75 and Connolly nearly 70!
Willie Escalade
10-20-2012, 11:40 AM
Red (2010)
youngblood61
10-20-2012, 02:38 PM
The Avengers!:)
HbgDon
10-20-2012, 02:47 PM
Chillerama
Dino Velvet
10-20-2012, 05:50 PM
Been watching Season One of Homeland. Watched the first 3 episodes. Good show.
http://noreruns.net/kyool-wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/HomelandS1F.jpg
fievel89
10-20-2012, 09:05 PM
Hunger Games
whatsupwithat
10-21-2012, 05:59 AM
Safety Not Guaranteed. Great flick.
Stavros
10-21-2012, 09:00 PM
The Taking of Pelham 123 (Tony Scott, 2009)
I have not seen the original but think I might track it down, if only to see the story done properly. The glaring problem with this film is the implacably wooden Denzel Washington, a man for whom acting must be a dream, since in his waking life he is so manifestly incompetent at it. John Revolting has a cameo role, and Tony Soprano kinda shrugs a lot, but at the dead centre of this atrocious film is death by recitation, also known as Denzel Washington. Another of his films is also on tv this evening, so maybe watch this space. Better still, get some rest.
The Taking Of Pelham 1 2 3 - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIYGrhXg0aI)
Dino Velvet
10-21-2012, 11:17 PM
The Taking of Pelham 123 (Tony Scott, 2009)
I have not seen the original but think I might track it down, if only to see the story done properly. The glaring problem with this film is the implacably wooden Denzel Washington, a man for whom acting must be a dream, since in his waking life he is so manifestly incompetent at it. John Revolting has a cameo role, and Tony Soprano kinda shrugs a lot, but at the dead centre of this atrocious film is death by recitation, also known as Denzel Washington. Another of his films is also on tv this evening, so maybe watch this space. Better still, get some rest.
The Taking Of Pelham 1 2 3 - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIYGrhXg0aI)
Did you like Denzel Washington in Training Day? I'm not a huge fan of his but I enjoyed that role. Like to see him play another baddie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IipX8iepb9M
maxpower
10-21-2012, 11:19 PM
Did you like Denzel Washington in Training Day? I'm not a huge fan of his but I enjoyed that role. Like to see him play another baddie.
What about American Gangster?
Dino Velvet
10-21-2012, 11:24 PM
What about American Gangster?
He was a criminal in that but I thought he was more villainous as a police officer in Training Day. I like American Gangster too.
Stavros
10-22-2012, 07:37 PM
Did you like Denzel Washington in Training Day? I'm not a huge fan of his but I enjoyed that role. Like to see him play another baddie.
I don't know Training Day and on the basis of the films I have seen him in, I will give it a miss. American Gangster was a poor film in every aspect, a film based on real life events which for that reason abandoned any pretence at imagination and was a pedestrian march through recorded events with not much interest in them or the main character, played with an effortless lack of artistry by Washington, whose demeanor, voice and reactions are more or less the same in all his films, and just as empty.
So last night I gave this acting dud another chance when The Book of Eli (2009) was shown on tv, a film so malevolent, so ill-conceived that it is shameful to imagine anyone pitching it to a studio -why any studio wanted to film this filth is beyond me. Whatever. Here is a post-war earth, partially stripped of its natural resources, but one in which any sense that science will be able to restore a system of food production, clean water and shelter does not exist -another American attack on science from the biblicals- but where the claim that it was religion that started the war meant that almost every bible was destroyed. One lone man with 'a book' (oh go on, have a guess which one) who must travel west, acts out some biblical fantasy as he slashes and burns his way across the west and through as many people, proving that in our 9/11 world, the only thing that matters is the word of God saturated in blood -in a post-war environment, I mean, do people not learn anything? And we are supposed to admire this man? The unspoken dirt under this films nails is the 'other religion' which presumably sparked the war, Islam, but that would be making it too obvious and the obliteration of the Quran would not have gone down well in cinemas outside the US. Hard to imagine why anyone wants to watch this pseudo-biblical rage dressed up as a post-acopalypse fantasy. The film is an insult to the intelligence
The Book of Eli - Official UK Trailer - In Cinemas 15th January 2010 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oeyyhUHhss)
Prospero
10-22-2012, 09:37 PM
You didn't like it then, Stavros?
Dino Velvet
10-22-2012, 10:40 PM
You didn't like it then, Stavros?
I'm gonna buy the house next to Stavros and have Denzel Washington move in.
http://taoofman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Denzel-training-day-natural-aftershave1.jpg
"Watch out! Don't leave your rake like dat! Shit'll getcha killed!"
RallyCola
10-22-2012, 10:45 PM
i watched harry potter and the deathly hallows part 1 on hbo last night. was bored and waiting for the walking dead to start so i ended up watching about 2/3 of it.
Lovecox
10-23-2012, 03:21 AM
Just watched Gomorrah (Italian: Gomorra) a 2008 Italian film directed by Matteo Garrone, based on the book by Roberto Saviano. It deals with the Casalesi clan, a crime syndicate within the Camorra — a traditional criminal organization based in Naples and Caserta, in the southern Italian region of Campania.
Powerful juxtaposition of savage imagery and subject matter with masterful cinematographic composition.
Tragic, sobering, violent, uncompromising.
Stavros
10-23-2012, 05:02 AM
I'm gonna buy the house next to Stavros and have Denzel Washington move in.
"Watch out! Don't leave your rake like dat! Shit'll getcha killed!"
How odd, as the house next to mine has been empty for the last 12-15 years, and there is a rumour that the landlord's son, a strange, dishevelled looking 30-something, used to live there (before he died in mysterious circumstances) even though there is no water, gas or electricity....the yard is an undergrowth of weeds, the windows cracked and forlorn, the curtains stiff with dust, age and death. And, merciful heavens, even the local rats have lost interest in the place, and I suspect it is now a rest-home for spiders, given the variety of species that I find in my bathtub on Sunday mornings...a spelll has been cast upon this near-derelict eyesore on an otherwise much-desired street near the centre of town, close to the railway station and other amenities...nah, the place is too interesting for someone with the one-dimensional profile of Mr Washington, please keep him there. Could make an interesting film though as a notorious 20th century necromancer was born in a house about five minutes walk away...
robertlouis
10-23-2012, 05:19 AM
How odd, as the house next to mine has been empty for the last 12-15 years, and there is a rumour that the landlord's son, a strange, dishevelled looking 30-something, used to live there (before he died in mysterious circumstances) even though there is no water, gas or electricity....the yard is an undergrowth of weeds, the windows cracked and forlorn, the curtains stiff with dust, age and death. And, merciful heavens, even the local rats have lost interest in the place, and I suspect it is now a rest-home for spiders, given the variety of species that I find in my bathtub on Sunday mornings...a spelll has been cast upon this near-derelict eyesore on an otherwise much-desired street near the centre of town, close to the railway station and other amenities...nah, the place is too interesting for someone with the one-dimensional profile of Mr Washington, please keep him there. Could make an interesting film though as a notorious 20th century necromancer was born in a house about five minutes walk away...
Crowley?
ALYSINCLAIRxxx
10-23-2012, 05:44 AM
Which Halloween movies are you lining up to watch? :D
I need some ideas. The lists online all show the same movies, that I enjoy, but have seen more than a few times. Here's my list of the top Halloween movies. But, again, I'm sure you have seen a few. http://blog.alysinclair.com/my-top-10-scary-halloween-movies/
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 06:14 AM
every year, we do a halloween marathon. we obviously don't watch season of the witch and this year, we might start with the rob zombie films first then go to the original series but its a great set of movies overall
Dino Velvet
10-23-2012, 06:27 AM
Which Halloween movies are you lining up to watch? :D
I need some ideas. The lists online all show the same movies, that I enjoy, but have seen more than a few times. Here's my list of the top Halloween movies. But, again, I'm sure you have seen a few. http://blog.alysinclair.com/my-top-10-scary-halloween-movies/
Here are some different ones.
http://img.over-blog.com/625x952/2/02/16/41/Aquatic/Les-monstres-de-la-mer.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IQaEmOqwTjw/T0MT5P2DmFI/AAAAAAAACyc/TIxwAn7uCJU/s1600/Suspiria+US+One+Sheet.jpg
http://www.wallpapers-free.co.uk/backgrounds/b_movie_posters/1970s/PHANTASM.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DmvqkeX0QAM/UCnzmFn2xXI/AAAAAAAAKYE/UyXRyOVC9XE/s1600/BEYOND,+THE+-+v1+-+Silver+Ferox+Design.jpg
http://klubkrik.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Maniac-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80.jpg
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 06:40 AM
session 9 is an often overlooked and undervalued psychological thriller
Dino Velvet
10-23-2012, 06:45 AM
session 9 is an often overlooked and undervalued psychological thriller
I agree. I found it by accident at Blockbuster Video years ago and have mentioned it to people too.
danthepoetman
10-23-2012, 09:24 AM
Saw a few with my sweet half last week end. “Shame”, by very promising young director Steve McQueen, from whom I loved “Hunger” a few years ago. European type of movie shot in New York, very slow, attentive to show us the characters in their intimacy rather than in totally exterior actions. Beautiful photography. A quite intense drama, a little short on psychology but all in all pretty fascinating. Poignant story of two persons who are trying to cope; a sister trying to reconnect with her brother.
“Man on a Ledge”, a thriller by Asger Leth, totally unbelievable and absurd, but with some nice twists. A cop, sentenced to life in prison escapes during a one day release and stands on the ledge of a high building, threatening to suicide. A good story that does the job it’s supposed to do. No masterpiece by any standard.
“Immortals”, with Henry Cavill and Mickey Rourke, from director Tarsem Singh. Hero Theseus against king Hyperion, who wants to released the Titans against the Gods. Doesn’t have anything to do with authentic ancient Greek mythology, except for the characters. Impressive settings, scenery designed by computer, beautiful colors and special effects. But long, silly, boring and totally ridiculous. My girlfriend commented: “This one was really a guy only film”. I would add to that: “a stupid guy only film”.
Stavros
10-23-2012, 01:01 PM
Just watched Gomorrah (Italian: Gomorra) a 2008 Italian film directed by Matteo Garrone, based on the book by Roberto Saviano. It deals with the Casalesi clan, a crime syndicate within the Camorra — a traditional criminal organization based in Naples and Caserta, in the southern Italian region of Campania.
Powerful juxtaposition of savage imagery and subject matter with masterful cinematographic composition.
Tragic, sobering, violent, uncompromising.
Presents a completely different view of organised crime without any of the 'artistic' overlay of The Godfather or Goodfellas, and is all the more disturbing for that -bleak reality in Scampia. You may or may not know that the hood whose gang is trying to take over the housing block was in a real gang/clan when the film was made, but has since turned against them and is part of an anti-mob campaign in Naples. He was in a documentary on the Camorra a short while ago but can't recall its name or his name. Saviano may have form too, as one wonders how he managed to make a film with people who were on the wrong side of the law...but still a powerful film and an indictment of Italian politics.
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 02:04 PM
quick question.....
chaos, in the word association thread, put up "rosebud" to which I answered overrated.
i did so because i just don't understand the craze over Citizen Kane. I realize why historically it was an important movie, but it doesn't hold up over time with advances in film making styles/techniques etc.
so the question is...are there any films that you think you are supposed to like (because of history, tradition, etc) but just don't. my list includes citizen cane and the godfather series. i really just don't care of them although they are some of the most celebrated movies
Prospero
10-23-2012, 02:30 PM
I saw what you did there Rally. I'd argue that you are wrong over Citizen Kane. It cannot be judged against contemporary film making abilities. You have to judge work in the context of its time
The most over rated films - in my view (and hey this is all opinion) are the Star Wars films.
But i could never get Chaplin either.
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 02:43 PM
I saw what you did there Rally. I'd argue that you are wrong over Citizen Kane. It cannot be judged against contemporary film making abilities. You have to judge work in the context of its time
The most over rated films - in my view (and hey this is all opinion) are the Star Wars films.
But i could never get Chaplin either.
the robert downey jr biopic? or all the original chaplin stuff from way back?
Prospero
10-23-2012, 02:49 PM
Never saw the Downey pic... no the originals. Everyone says they're works of genius. But I just do not get it.
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 02:52 PM
yeah, i don't get them either. the biopic wasn't a bad movie at all.
Prospero
10-23-2012, 02:59 PM
Most recent fil I saw was a 1945 film noir - largely forgotten - about spies called "The House on 92nd Street."
danthepoetman
10-23-2012, 03:12 PM
Didn't like Modern Times, Prospero? A most savoury social critic in a relatively loose succession of humorous sketches. Indeed, some of Chaplin's are terribly corny; but with the means he had, I wonder how powerful it might have been at the time. Is "Nosferatu" scary today, for instance? Yet we still admire the expressionist images and symbolism of Murnau's movies (Faust equally, for instance). I don't know; difficult to say with the time elapsed...
Prospero
10-23-2012, 03:14 PM
The original Nosferatu is no particularly scarey no - but then nor is Psycho. The remake of Nosferatu by Werner Herzog works well still. Film has to be judged in its context.
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 03:18 PM
i think i have said this before but for me the scariest movie of all time has to be the exorcist. perhaps it is because i was a wee little lad when my father let me watch it.
Prospero
10-23-2012, 03:19 PM
Surprised your dad let you watch it Rally. And yes... it was very very unsettling.
robertlouis
10-23-2012, 03:20 PM
"Winter's Bone", a naturalistic, low-key film about rural poverty in the US with a stunning central performance by Jennifer Lawrence.
Hoping to see the new German film, "Barbara" with Nina Hoss, about the DDR in the 1980s in Cambridge at the weekend. Reviews tip the hat towards "The Lives of Others", probably the best film of the present century so far.
RallyCola
10-23-2012, 03:23 PM
Surprised your dad let you watch it Rally. And yes... it was very very unsettling.
my father started to take me to movies he wanted to see since i was 5 or so. i know i actually saw more R rated movies as a kid than G and PG movies
Prospero
10-23-2012, 03:28 PM
"Barbara" is no where near as good as "The Lives Of Others" (though the setting is similar - the DDR)
robertlouis
10-23-2012, 03:31 PM
"Barbara" is no where near as good as "The Lives Of Others" (though the setting is similar - the DDR)
Verdammt! That said, Nina Hoss is worth watching in every movie she makes. "Yella" and "Anonymous" in particular.
And nowhere near as good, well, as I said, for my money "The Lives of Others" is the best film of the present century so far.
danthepoetman
10-23-2012, 03:38 PM
The Lives of Others was a fascinating movie. Narrative conducted like a tragedy. Reminded me a bit of Kieslowski…
robertlouis
10-23-2012, 03:41 PM
The Lives of Others was a fascinating movie. Narrative conducted like a tragedy. Reminded me a bit of Kieslowski…
Good call. Something to do with a shared ironic melancholy for the vanished world of the stasi and solidarnosc.
Stavros
10-23-2012, 05:19 PM
quick question.....
chaos, in the word association thread, put up "rosebud" to which I answered overrated.
i did so because i just don't understand the craze over Citizen Kane. I realize why historically it was an important movie, but it doesn't hold up over time with advances in film making styles/techniques etc.
so the question is...are there any films that you think you are supposed to like (because of history, tradition, etc) but just don't. my list includes citizen cane and the godfather series. i really just don't care of them although they are some of the most celebrated movies
All I can say is that I have been watching Kane for over 40 years and every time I see it I am impressed with its script, its editing, its story, its acting, the use of music -it is a multi-layered film with innovations in the use of deep focus- the whole conception is magical, as films often should be. You only need to see other attempts to make films within films, stories presented as a factual newsreel to see how thin they look next to Kane. There are also few films about political life which last beyond their age, yet you could easily see Kane in the context of Berlusconi, to a degree anyway.
As for classics that do nothing for me, I'm with Prospero on Chaplin, can't stand the man. I would also throw away all the Marx Bros films, but while in recent times the films of Gus van Sant are remarkable in being embarrasingly bad, nothing with a reputation is as vile as the cinema of Jean-Luc Godard. I think every one of his films stinks.
maxpower
10-23-2012, 05:26 PM
session 9 is an often overlooked and undervalued psychological thriller
I agree. I found it by accident at Blockbuster Video years ago and have mentioned it to people too.
That movie is supposedly about the Norwich State Mental Hospital, in Connecticut. It's about a 20 minute drive from me. It's been closed and abandoned for some time now. Pretty creepy place.
maxpower
10-23-2012, 05:59 PM
That movie is supposedly about the Norwich State Mental Hospital, in Connecticut. It's about a 20 minute drive from me. It's been closed and abandoned for some time now. Pretty creepy place.
OK, never mind what I said. I had heard it was about Norwich State a few times, but after looking into it, I see it's about a place in Massachusetts called Danvers State. I guess people in CT wanted to claim it as their own. Guess I should have found that out before making an ill-informed post. Norwich State is still creepy, though.
Dino Velvet
10-23-2012, 06:55 PM
my father started to take me to movies he wanted to see since i was 5 or so. i know i actually saw more R rated movies as a kid than G and PG movies
My father was exactly the same. He loved Horror but my mom hated it so he took me instead. By the time I was 9 or 10 I chose the films we saw. Saw The Exorcist at 6 years old in a theater.
trish
10-23-2012, 09:40 PM
Just got back from Cronenberg's Cosmopolis. If DeLillo wanted to say the soulessness of the upper one percent infects us all, he could've have said it more succinctly.
Stavros
10-25-2012, 06:34 PM
Of Time and the City (Terence Davies, 2008)
Mistakenly described as a 'love song and eulogy' for the city of Liverpool, this film, mostly archive film with some contemporary footage, is a sour, misanthropic, sarcastic, and overwhelmingly self-indulgent piece of tosh from someone who seems to be incapable of believing he was born in the place -having abandoned it in the 1970s one wonders why he bothered to return.
Of Time and the City - Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1kmDMJyR4A)
Dino Velvet
10-25-2012, 06:41 PM
Just got back from Cronenberg's Cosmopolis. If DeLillo wanted to say the soulessness of the upper one percent infects us all, he could've have said it more succinctly.
I'll probably see that. I'm mainly into early Montreal Cronenberg but just about all of his stuff is consistently good. Keep meaning to see Eastern Promises again soon.
Dino Velvet
10-25-2012, 06:51 PM
My favorite Vincent Price film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRfziUjNzEU
Dino Velvet
10-25-2012, 06:52 PM
My second favorite Vincent Price film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5emdPYUXj8
Dino Velvet
10-25-2012, 06:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZvuvUjy1ZI
Dino Velvet
10-25-2012, 07:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNEr22LoHkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J0iMW7LoGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyefqwY37WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5II2fKqiLXQ
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt221/My_Farts_Cause_Global_Warming/FULCILIVES.gif
RallyCola
10-25-2012, 07:42 PM
was fortunate enough to see a sneak preview of cloud atlas wednesday night. it was quite possibly the best movie i have seen all year. i highly recommend you see as soon as possible. having not read the book, suffice it to say, i just ordered it because the story was just as compelling as the movie was visually stunning.
Prospero
10-25-2012, 07:55 PM
I am really looking forward to seeing that film Rally. posted some advance publicity clips a few weeks ago. I loved the book - love all his books.
My most recent film was a screening of "Moonrise Kingdom" which came out a few weeks ago in the Uk. Loved that too. Very original and very funny.
RallyCola
10-25-2012, 08:03 PM
I am really looking forward to seeing that film Rally. posted some advance publicity clips a few weeks ago. I loved the book - love all his books.
My most recent film was a screening of "Moonrise Kingdom" which came out a few weeks ago in the Uk. Loved that too. Very original and very funny.
one of the people at the screening said that there were subtle differences from the book (beyond the one massive change that many fans are complaining about) that was made for pacing issues but otherwise it was pretty faithful.
as I said, I have not yet started it but will tonight on the ride home so I really don't know what the differences are between the 2.
I haven't read any of his other books yet either....any recommendations?
tsadriana
10-25-2012, 08:40 PM
pARANORMAL ACTIVITY 4
iT WAS QUITE GOOD MOVIE.
Prospero
10-25-2012, 11:48 PM
His first three books are his best so far - this was the third the others are Ghostwritten and Number 9 Dream.
New Yorker review published yesterday by David Denby said the difference is the film chops the narrative up a lot more than the book - cutting back and forward in time constanty. Denby found it a bit banal. It's high on my list of must sees - but no London preview screenings coming yet.
Stavros
10-30-2012, 01:13 PM
Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress (Sijie Dai, 2002)
I feel ambivalent about this film (beautiful to look at, as usual); it isn't that common to see films made in China about the Cultural Revolution and the programme of 're-education' which sent educated lads and lasses into rural areas to work on the land, and the two lads in this film don't really have it as hard as I am sure it was in reality, even though it is based on Dai's own life story. I am not sure about the way in which the boys take advantage of a simple country girl, whose life is a reversal of the boys-as a result of meeting them she abandons the countryside for the city, but one wonders if it was for the better. There is the theme of books, reading, and especially foreign reading in the context of the cultural revolution, but it isn't explored. In the end, I think I prefer Balzac.
bassman2546
10-30-2012, 02:09 PM
Magic Mike with my wife. It sucked balls in every way possible. Script, Acting, Quality of video. Matthew Macconaughey is now officially useless in my eyes. And as far as Channing Tatum. His inability to spit out a simple sentence and yet the director leave it in the final cut was the most bizarre frustrating thing I've ever seen.
Jiggers34
10-30-2012, 02:17 PM
the last movie I watched was hitch hikers guide to the galaxy it lived up to every expectation i had
danthepoetman
10-30-2012, 10:50 PM
Just felt like watching films noirs, and went through a couple of great ones. Beautifully shot, suspenseful and well acted 1950 “The Asphalt Jungle”, by John Huston, with Sterling Hayden. Story of a heist, conducted like a Greek tragedy.
The Asphalt Jungle - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtD99oR42xA)
Marilyn Monroe in Asphalt Jungle - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ezr6aO0f4)
1944 “Double Indemnity”, with Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck and Edward G. Robinson, directed by Billy Wilder and written by Raymond Chandler. This one is just great. Conducted like a symphony. Everything falls into place so perfectly there’s not a second you think about anything else than what you see on the screen.
Double Indemnity - Trailer (1944) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3wjJcuGsVE)
Double Indemnity - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY9QOsVaoeM&feature=related)
Chaos
10-30-2012, 11:40 PM
Just got a free month from Netflix...hehehehe.
So I've been busy...
The Immortals,The Expendables,a few Asian action movies,Thor,Iron Man2,and others.....
Birdemic: Shock and Terror, it was painful watch. We thought it would funny enough to make fun of, but it was just.... painful *shudders*
danthepoetman
10-31-2012, 04:56 AM
Birdemic: Shock and Terror, it was painful watch. We thought it would funny enough to make fun of, but it was just.... painful *shudders*
IMDb gives it a ranking of 1.9/10!
robertlouis
10-31-2012, 05:01 AM
Not a movie but a TV show about an interesting genre - continental, as opposed to UK, horror, from German expressionist cinema in the 20s, French horror thrillers from the 50s, Italian Giallo from the 60s and 70s and finally to Spanish suspense horror of the 90s and noughties, all presented by the knowledgeable and engaging Mark Gatiss, co-writer of Sherlock and Doctor Who. Recommended.
Hope Dino manages to see it - interviews with Dario Argento and Guillermo del Toro.
danthepoetman
10-31-2012, 05:06 AM
Not a movie but a TV show about an interesting genre - continental, as opposed to UK, horror, from German expressionist cinema in the 20s, French horror thrillers from the 50s, Italian Giallo from the 60s and 70s and finally to Spanish suspense horror of the 90s and noughties, all presented by the knowledgeable and engaging Mark Gatiss, co-writer of Sherlock and Doctor Who. Recommended.
Hope Dino manages to see it - interviews with Dario Argento and Guillermo del Toro.
Not sure I follow you, Robert Louis, forgive me. The title of the show is "Continental"? Seems really interresting.
robertlouis
10-31-2012, 05:27 AM
Not sure I follow you, Robert Louis, forgive me. The title of the show is "Continental"? Seems really interresting.
Apologies for my convoluted syntax, Dan. The programme is called Horror Europa.
Gatiss also did a three part series last year called The History of Horror. As they've all been on the BBC they'll probably turn up on PBS in the US.
danthepoetman
10-31-2012, 05:33 AM
Thanks! I’ll be looking forward to that one.
robertlouis
10-31-2012, 05:40 AM
Thanks! I’ll be looking forward to that one.
He visits the actual castle in Slovakia where Murnau filmed Nosferatu in 1922!
Gatiss also wrote and starred in a very effective horror/ghost story serial a few years ago called Crooked House. That's also well worth seeking out. It may be available on DVD.
danthepoetman
10-31-2012, 05:54 AM
Think I found it in parts on Youtube. May watch it later on tonight! Thanks again, Ribert Louis!
Crooked House - E01 - Part 1/2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwH2m23hFuU)
By the way, I love Nosferatu. Faust is also such a masterpiece. Some images are amazingly hautning, like from Nosferatu. The Devil's shadow over the vilage, for instance.
danthepoetman
10-31-2012, 06:03 PM
In one of these experiments of the 70s, one person in a group was subjected to troubling reactions: at the presentation of a colour, red for instance, all the participants would answer “green”. After very few of these presentations, the sole subject of the experiment would answer exactly as the rest of the group against his own best judgement. Some of these subjects went so far as questioning their own sanity.
Anyone who knows deep depression understands how one can slip in such states in which everything seems opposed to what you think and what you feel you are and, strangely, the same happened to many great creators and thinkers in history. The topic of this movie, “La Moustache” (“The Mustache” -2005), by French director Emmanuel Carrère, from his own novel, revolves around such experiences. Seemingly silly, almost surrealistic. Very strange. And much underrated, in my opinion.
La Moustache - Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfURXKUwbFA)
Quiet Reflections
10-31-2012, 06:15 PM
Halloween
Prospero
10-31-2012, 06:25 PM
I saw that film Moustache a few years ago and completely forgot about it. it was a strange film.
Dino Velvet
11-01-2012, 12:57 AM
Some Mario Bava for Halloween.
La maschera del demonio (1960) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z4tF-8wlcY)
Black Sabbath (1963) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olj4z1sDNJc)
Kill Baby Kill (1966) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86ys9BE0u0)
Sei donne per l'assassino (1964) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKs3zUjTqNA)
Bay of Blood 1971 Mario Bava full - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbqm2Tu5Vjc&feature=related)
Lisa e il diavolo (1973) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBTprLYk6vc)
La casa dell'esorcismo (1975) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJB1HMBIeg)
Baron Blood (1972) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1--8UFq-Ipw)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1252/mariobava.jpg
south ov da border
11-01-2012, 04:42 AM
Blackenstein
danthepoetman
11-01-2012, 05:16 AM
Dino Velvet reigns!!
betts
11-01-2012, 06:28 AM
Dino Velvet reigns!!
http://images.andyouknowthis.net/super-retard1.jpg
fred41
11-01-2012, 07:34 AM
Rare Exports:A Christmas Tale...
Terrific little Finnish film with original storytelling on an amazing backdrop (to me anyway....this is how I travel).
If you liked "Trollhunter", you'll probably like this - less for effects than storytelling.
Dino Velvet
11-02-2012, 06:52 AM
Thanks Dan. Did you know Bay Of Blood(AKA Twitch Of The Death Nerve) was Friday The 13th before Friday The 13th? Check the similarities of the death scenes.
Also, Lisa & The Devil was redone, re-edited, with some new scenes shot for the American market to capitalize on the success of The Exorcist. It was renamed House Of Exorcism. Saw it as a kid at the Picwood Theater. Telly Savalas is the ultimate badass.
http://www.leffatykki.com/static/content/webimage/915300feb089d28670b339dacbc95810.jpg
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/reviews/bava02b.jpg
danthepoetman
11-02-2012, 08:58 AM
Dino, you never cease to amaze me!
I'll have to pay attention to all of that, it's just too delightful! Thanks!
RallyCola
11-02-2012, 05:18 PM
just saw paranormal activity 4.
save your money...don't see it.
Jericho
11-02-2012, 08:38 PM
The Bourne Legacy.
Fairly pointless. :shrug
danthepoetman
11-03-2012, 02:25 PM
Nothing terrible here. Just a bad start, characters being ridiculously condescending and obnoxious, like in so many Hollywood movies. Then, after about 50 minutes to an hour of babbling, we get into it, how dirty and rough the political game really is. Well, the overall feeling is, to quote Shakespeare, “All Ado About Nothing”, there was no need to make so much efforts in telling us what we already know… “The Ides of March” (2011), partly written, produced and directed by George Clooney, with a pretty remarkable cast: Ryan Goslin, Paul Giamatti, Philip Seymour-Hoffman, Clooney himself, Marisa Tomei, etc. Nothing at all to evoke the assassination of Cesar…
The Ides of March Trailer 2011 Movie - Official [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-50ay79mk)
Prospero
11-03-2012, 03:36 PM
Skyfall - see my remarks about it under the Skyfall thread.
Stavros
11-03-2012, 03:43 PM
Nothing terrible here. Just a bad start, characters being ridiculously condescending and obnoxious, like in so many Hollywood movies. Then, after about 50 minutes to an hour of babbling, we get into it, how dirty and rough the political game really is. Well, the overall feeling is, to quote Shakespeare, “All Ado About Nothing”, there was no need to make so much efforts in telling us what we already know… “The Ides of March” (2011), partly written, produced and directed by George Clooney, with a pretty remarkable cast: Ryan Goslin, Paul Giamatti, Philip Seymour-Hoffman, Clooney himself, Marisa Tomei, etc. Nothing at all to evoke the assassination of Cesar…
Even Much Ado About Nothing seems to be an overworked slogan for this thin, empty film in which Ryan Gosling mumbles his way to the credits without once showing an interest in his work. As usual.
Jericho
11-03-2012, 03:47 PM
Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol.
It cracked along at a fair pace, there was a bit of humour (Simon Pegg influence?), entertaining.
Stavros
11-03-2012, 03:49 PM
I watched the trilogy of films that Lucas Belvaux made in 2002, 'One, Two, Three' each of which has its own title (On the Run, An Amazing Couple, Apres la Vie). The three films are three different perspectives of events that take place over a few days in Grenoble, the first concenrs a convicted terrorist who escapes from gaol; the second a light comedy about a woman who thinks her hypchondriac husband is having an affair; and the third about a Police detective whose wife is a morphine addict. All the characters are involved in each other's films, but there is not much depth or artisty in this film-making, its the kind of thing that would be made these days for BBC-1 or 2 and not much above tv drama, although Dominique Blanc as the drug addict is superb. I never believed in the terrorist, and Ornella Muti, though ravishingly beautiful still, is not going to win any acting awards. I think this box set will off to the charity shop soon along with The Ides of March...unless I can get the entertainment shop to buy them..
Anubis1779
11-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Last movie I watched was Goon, which I liked more than I thought I would!
GrimFusion
11-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Triangle (2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsCk8ycPEUM
fred41
11-03-2012, 05:34 PM
Warriors of the Rainbow: Seediq Bale......runs a bit long (I understand the original was twice as long)..but very,very good.
Lovecox
11-03-2012, 06:03 PM
I just watched The Christine Jorgensen Story from 1970. She was the most famost post op transexual of her time. The movie is incredibly campy and many times unintentionally funny, but I was also touched by her story.
Dino Velvet
11-03-2012, 06:08 PM
Pretty decent prequel. Worth seeing if you're interested. I promise Denzel Washington is not in it. Watched real close in case they tried to sneak him in as an extra. All clear.
http://www.cityonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/28269_front.jpg
Dino Velvet
11-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Jess Franco's best(and maybe only good) film. Christopher Lee is the real Prince Of Darkness. He'll be 150 years old and still have 4 projects on IMDb in-production at once.
Jess Franco's Count Dracula 1970 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0dvlvLu0o)
Dino Velvet
11-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Another great Spanish Production. Classic Christopher Lee/Peter Cushing. Telly Savalas plays an over-the-top Cossack. A mad monk almost steals it.
Korku Treni - Horror Express - Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing, Telly Savalas 1972 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqGF7jhP_4A&cc=1)
Stavros
11-04-2012, 08:43 PM
Another great Spanish Production. Classic Christopher Lee/Peter Cushing. Telly Savalas plays an over-the-top Cossack. A mad monk almost steals it.
Curious name if you think about it -and I can therefore understand why he abbreviated it to Telly, but I can't imagine why his parents chose the name Television- does anyone know?
fred41
11-04-2012, 09:15 PM
Curious name if you think about it -and I can therefore understand why he abbreviated it to Telly, but I can't imagine why his parents chose the name Television- does anyone know?
Telly's short for Aristotelis.
Dino Velvet
11-04-2012, 09:50 PM
Curious name if you think about it -and I can therefore understand why he abbreviated it to Telly, but I can't imagine why his parents chose the name Television- does anyone know?
I enjoy that his name is Telly. Whenever you guys talk about television I can't resist putting Mr Savalas' picture up. Over the last around 5 years I've really appreciated his work learning he's much more than just Kojak. He plays a Mafia Boss in Violent City w/Charles Bronson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxFe4n6DWM
Here's something special for you.:party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-pu31S4EEY
danthepoetman
11-05-2012, 02:20 AM
Nice! Very young Denzell Washington! What about this one: an older Cagney vs a younger Bogart…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNs8A1itig
GoddessAthena85
11-05-2012, 02:24 AM
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Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 04:41 AM
Nice! Very young Denzell Washington! What about this one: an older Cagney vs a younger Bogart…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNs8A1itig
I'm actually very limited on my knowledge of film. I need to get more into Bogart and Cagney. Saw A Man Of A Thousand Faces because of my admiration of Lon Chaney Sr.
Chaney was originally supposed to be in Tod Browning's Dracula. Lugosi really nailed it but Chaney would've been bone chilling.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xslElWhAZBQ/TSCHxqgVZNI/AAAAAAAAFD8/tzgAnM1ktVM/s1600/london01.jpg
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 04:45 AM
London After Midnight (1927) aka The Hypnotist is a silent mystery film with horror overtones produced and distributed by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. The film stars Lon Chaney, Marceline Day, Conrad Nagel, Henry B. Walthall, and Polly Moran and was directed by Tod Browning. It is also a lost film, quite possibly the most famous and eagerly sought of all lost films. The last known copy was destroyed in a fire in an MGM film vault in 1967. It is hoped that eventually a print of this film may be discovered in a foreign archive or a private collection.
London After Midnight (1927) - IMDb@@AMEPARAM@@http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIzMDE5NDAzNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDk5MTkxMQ@@._ V1._SX100_SY134_.jpg@@AMEPARAM@@BMTIzMDE5NDAzNF5BM l5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDk5MTkxMQ@@@@AMEPARAM@@SX100@@AMEP ARAM@@SY134 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018097/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_After_Midnight_%28film%29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADEj-bLn8Q
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rij3jNGQmDU/Tk3ibqp-_cI/AAAAAAAAAOU/P6Ruy_bKpNU/s1600/London+After+Midnight+poster.jpg
Jericho
11-05-2012, 05:01 AM
Another great Spanish Production. Classic Christopher Lee/Peter Cushing. Telly Savalas plays an over-the-top Cossack. A mad monk almost steals it.
That, and The Legend Of Hell House, two of my favourite horror flicks.
The Legend of Hell House - Official Trailer (1973) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJhdMwOtRU)
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 05:08 AM
That, and The Legend Of Hell House, two of my favourite horror flicks.
The Legend of Hell House - Official Trailer (1973) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJhdMwOtRU)
I am a massive fan of Hammer Films. Low budget but such a nice look with use of color. The cleavage helped too. I even put up with Amicus who released a few good anthologies blatantly copying Hammer's style, look, and with Lee/Cushing too.
The 1970's used to have great Made For TV Horror. Let's Scare Jessica To Death, The Legend Of Hell House, The Devil's Rain, and so many others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxQs9nyxXa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsbpN9wXf6k
Jericho
11-05-2012, 05:20 AM
I am a massive fan of Hammer Films. Low budget but such a nice look with use of color. The cleavage helped too. I even put up with Amicus who released a few good anthologies blatantly copying Hammer's style, look, and with Lee/Cushing too.
The 1970's used to have great Made For TV Horror. Let's Scare Jessica To Death, The Legend Of Hell House, The Devil's Rain, and so many others.
Did you ever catch this one?
Fucking loved the Bar scene, with the three thugs.
It so should have been a series of films!
Captain Kronos, Vampire Hunter - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKKPaqEhbI4)
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 05:31 AM
Did you ever catch this one?
Fucking loved the Bar scene, with the three thugs.
It so should have been a series of films!
Captain Kronos, Vampire Hunter - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKKPaqEhbI4)
Yeah. Saw it long time ago. Remember enjoying it. There's some great British Horror. Horror Hospital, Psychomania, and the Pete Walker stuff.
Cecil Rhodes
11-05-2012, 06:18 AM
FLIGHT . I got to see Nadine Velasquez NAKED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jericho
11-05-2012, 04:49 PM
Psychomania.
Argh, the Horror!
Could never watch that that all the way through, it's got Beryl Reid in it!
RallyCola
11-05-2012, 05:00 PM
the man with the iron fists
ok.....well, if you are a kid and don't care if a complex story actually had substance, then this movie is for you. it is a great action movie, but really, the fight scenes are the only good parts. the filler is kinda crap. i don't regret seeing it, but i could have spent 2 hrs more sleeping and be as satisfied.
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Argh, the Horror!
Could never watch that that all the way through, it's got Beryl Reid in it!
A little Schlocky but I have fun watching it.
Jericho
11-05-2012, 05:13 PM
A little Schlocky but I have fun watching it.
I just can't watch anything with Beryl Reid in it.
She goes thru me like nails on a blackboard! :hide-1:
Prospero
11-05-2012, 05:38 PM
For me the real horror movies are anything with Dora Bryan in them. Oh yes - Beryl Reid is pretty grim too
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 05:41 PM
I just can't watch anything with Beryl Reid in it.
She goes thru me like nails on a blackboard! :hide-1:
She looks like a lady who would bother me in my neighborhood too.
http://image1.findagrave.com/photos/2011/66/20445_129964949872.jpg
Prospero
11-05-2012, 05:44 PM
Now this a film that makes my flesh creep - a psychological horror film
Bette Davis, Joan Crawford: What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTtpDwrKaxo)
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 05:46 PM
Now this a film that makes my flesh creep - a psychological horror film
Bette Davis, Joan Crawford: What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTtpDwrKaxo)
I was gonna mention Joan Crawford's Horror period. She was very good in the Night Gallery pilot.
This still holds up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsIm2zTbFWk
Prospero
11-05-2012, 05:48 PM
And this one too - but you have to see the whole film.
Gloria Swanson as Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard
Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready for My Close-Up - Sunset Blvd. (8/8) Movie CLIP (1950) HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTT0LW0M_Y)
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 05:50 PM
And this one too - but you have to see the whole film.
Gloria Swanson as Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard
Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready for My Close-Up - Sunset Blvd. (8/8) Movie CLIP (1950) HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTT0LW0M_Y)
You much for Carol Burnett? Amazing talent with phenomenal cast of characters and friends on that show.
Nora Desmond: Bed Bug Commercial - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLO4z5m89TE)
buttslinger
11-05-2012, 06:48 PM
I caught Closed for the Season at the drive-in this weekend, I think it was one of them arty concept films. At first it was really really boring, but after a couple hours the message about the emptiness of life without sensual stimulation became very clear, and a kind of euphoria happened. Great Film. Man.
Dino Velvet
11-05-2012, 06:52 PM
I caught Closed for the Season at the drive-in this weekend, I think it was one of them arty concept films. At first it was really really boring, but after a couple hours the message about the emptiness of life without sensual stimulation became very clear, and a kind of euphoria happened. Great Film. Man.
The Drive-In, huh? I really miss those things. Used to be some great ones out here.
Prospero
11-08-2012, 02:37 PM
The Master
Beautifully shot, beautifully acted - but way too long. It could do with some judicious editing. This trailer suggests a far more energetic film than you'll see.
This is Paul Tomas Anderson's first film since the brilliant There Will Be Blood.
At its core an examination of how lost souls are attracted to quasi religious and ludicrous cults. In this case they call it "The Cause" but many have suggested it might just be based upon scientology and its founder L Ron Hubbard (newspapers are very coy about this because the Scientologists sue anyone and everyone).
The Master - Official Trailer (2012) [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1O1vb9AUU)
Interesting piece from the Guardian about this movie that i just ran across by sheer chance after posting my remarks.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/nov/02/the-master-paul-thomas-anderson
tsadriana
11-08-2012, 02:45 PM
The Bay
It was a pretty good movie ,u should watch guys if u are into sf .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgoWlESPzso
Stavros
11-09-2012, 04:54 PM
The Turin Horse (Bela Tarr & Agnes Hranitzky, 2011).
Tarr first planned this film with Laszlo Krasznahorkai in the 1980s but was unable to make it until the last few years, building the entire set from scratch in a valley in Hungary. The impetus for the film is an incident that took place in Turin in 1889 when the philosopher Freidrich Nietzsche witnessed a horse that wouldn't budge being flogged by its owner. Nietzsche wrapped his arms around the horse in despair, and on being taken back to his hotel in a state of collapse, said Mutter, ich bin Dumm, and, it is claimed, never spoke again until his death in 1900. What happened to the horse?
In fact, although one sees the horse at the beginning of this film, it concerns the last 6 days of mankind in the form of the horse, its owner and his daughter who live in penury in the midst of a storm, eating one boiled potato a day, observing a routine that is broken when the horse refuses to haul the cart or eat. On one day a local man in need of Palinka arrives, rants on about the end of the world and is thrown out; on another day gypsies in a cart invade the property, help themselves to the water in the well (which subsequently dries up), and give the fgirl a book, a sort of anti-bible with dire prophecies. At the end, after the storm, there is no water, no way of boiling the potatoes, and no light. two and half hours and 30 takes, if you like Tarr, and I do, this superbly shot film becomes an anthem to despair; both of these people have options, yet like characters from a story or a play by Samuel Beckett, their focus has narrowed from routine, their aspirations have dimmed, they are on a treadmill of death. Or it could be Tarr's way of expressing his frustation with the business of making films, that he has run out of things to say. Either way, it is on its own terms a masterpiece, but a film that asks too much of the average film goer, it will drive them up the wall with its attention to detail, although it is clear that between day 3 and 4 Erika Bok has washed her hair (she is blonde in real life). Recommended, for purists.
The Turin Horse - opening scene - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v32n4lCG0OA&feature=related)
Prospero
11-09-2012, 05:44 PM
Purists indeed. I think Stavros already knows my view of this film. I confess it has haunted me a little since I saw it and i grasp his interpretation well. The analogy with Samuel Becket is a good one. But whereas Godot or most of Becket's other plays are engaging, or funny or if neither of these, short, this goes on.. and on.. and on.. and on... i found it among the most tedious I've ever watched.
Mind you I've not see Bela Tarr's even longer earlier efforts.
CORVETTEDUDE
11-09-2012, 05:44 PM
ARGO...Go see it!
Dino Velvet
11-09-2012, 05:50 PM
ARGO...Go see it!
That good, huh? I'm so lazy about going to the theater. End up procrastinating enough that I wait for it to come out on DVD. Got an AMC Multiplex close enough to me like it's walking to the back of the house but still don't go. The few times I do go I'm usually glad wondering why I don't go out to the movies more often.
Prospero
11-09-2012, 05:54 PM
Get outta the house Dino....
Dino Velvet
11-09-2012, 05:56 PM
Get outta the house Dino....
I go running past the theater sunburned nowadays.
trish
11-09-2012, 06:04 PM
ARGO...Go see it!
Argofuckyourself! :D
It's a decent flick.
Dino Velvet
11-09-2012, 06:07 PM
Argofuckyourself! :D
It's a decent flick.
Decent? Worth 12 bucks?
trish
11-09-2012, 06:13 PM
Hmmmmm, that's a hard one. Only if you got a date and you're pretty sure she's going to let you feel her up during the slow parts.
Dino Velvet
11-09-2012, 06:22 PM
Hmmmmm, that's a hard one. Only if you got a date and you're pretty sure she's going to let you feel her up during the slow parts.
That's 24 bucks now. 76 more and I bagged one of my honeys.
Stavros
11-09-2012, 06:53 PM
And don't forget the buckets of popcorn and soda...you can probably have a hot dog too, on account of your being in California...
Dino Velvet
11-09-2012, 06:59 PM
And don't forget the buckets of popcorn and soda...you can probably have a hot dog too, on account of your being in California...
After stopping off at the concession stand I could've ditched my date and had a "date" instead. Shit's crazy expensive. Juju Beans like 8 bucks.
Stavros
11-09-2012, 07:10 PM
Juju Beans? Sounds like something from a horror film...
Dino Velvet
11-09-2012, 07:13 PM
Juju Beans? Sounds like something from a horror film...
Fred Sanford from Sanford & Son popped in my head. Always talking about Juju Beans getting stuck in his teeth. He's right.
I miss Redd Foxx.
Redd Foxx - Wash Your Ass - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uldt6Y-CE3s)
Redd Foxx Live - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEHVSTmrWeQ)
Stavros
11-10-2012, 04:13 AM
Purists indeed. I think Stavros already knows my view of this film. I confess it has haunted me a little since I saw it and i grasp his interpretation well. The analogy with Samuel Becket is a good one. But whereas Godot or most of Becket's other plays are engaging, or funny or if neither of these, short, this goes on.. and on.. and on.. and on... i found it among the most tedious I've ever watched.
Mind you I've not see Bela Tarr's even longer earlier efforts.
I don't see this as being any different from genre films which I don't watch, like teen flicks, Transformers, anything with Predator and stuff like that, there are enough types to go round. With Tarr that phrase, reality extended to the point of madness comes to mind. There is an occasional sense of the absurd or ridiculous in Tarr's films, and there is a theory that his films are as religious as Tarkovsky's, but without the explicit or implicit imagery this involves. Also, Tarr uses mostly original scripts -even when they are books he has tended to rely on Krasznahorkai- and original music by Mihaly Vag, The Man From London being an exception (a Simenon story); so he is closer to Bergman in this respect. I think where Tarr succeeds is in building a cumulative effect over time, but you have to endure it, there is no doubt about that, for a lot of people, life is too short to commit to films of his length.
Prospero
11-10-2012, 10:43 PM
Every year there seems to be a new Spielberg movie. Last year it was the overly sentimental adaptation of "War Horse" But his latest "Lincoln" is terrific. Due out in the US and Uk very soon. An Oscar winning performance by Daniel Day Lewis in this new film about the President's fight to win a constittional amendment in the closing days of the Civil War. Ba one or two "god-bless-America" Spielbergisms at the beginning this is a powerful film built around the struggle by the Republicans to persuade their own militant wing and some Democrats to vioe for the amendment outlawing slavery. Two and a half hours long and largely a film full of speeches, discussion and debates, it is - nevertheless - rivetting. Spielberg's best serious film. And seeing it just a couple of days after Obama's victory is has a special resonance.
I also saw a very different and as yet unreleased film "Hitchcock" - with Anthony Hopkins as the director. it focuses on his battle to make Psycho - opposed by the studio who thought it uncommercial and finally funded from his own money. Terrific ensemble performances. An interesting study of this brilliant director and with some nice humour.
And a few days ago I caught "Skyfall" . First up the most remarkable thing was that, at the industry screening I attended, in the audience was none other than Sean Connery! Checking on the way the latest Bond handles things i guess. And M of course and the newest Q.
Anyway it is a great romp of a film - the opening chase one of the best ever and, though a little long, grips your attention all the way through. I think the Bond franchise is in great hands.
However Daniel Craig brings no personality to the role at all. He has steely eyes, perfect physique and is macho to the Nth degree. But every now and then you glimpse the notion of a mind of interest before it runs away and hides.
There is thankfully a little more wit than the first of the Craig Bonds - and I've never summoned the will to watch Quantum Of Solace.
All in all though - a good evening's entertainment. Nothing more, but nothing less.
Stavros
11-11-2012, 03:18 PM
Leaving aside the inability of Daniel Day-Lewis to act, unless you consider that tortured grimacing acting, are you not bothered by the presentation of queers as evil, a common theme in Bond films, where a man after all, is a man? I haven't seen Skyfall and it might be escapist entertainment, but it is hardly innocent in the way that it has selected its victims over the years.
Prospero
11-11-2012, 04:31 PM
Daniel Day-Lewis is actually an excellent actor. I see you disagree. So be it. Two Oscars for best actor already under his belt. Which of his films have you seen?
And he was NOT in Skyfall. I didn't say I approved of "queers" as being evil. There are many many things wrong with the Bond films - objectification of women, worship of macho values, celebration of violence etc etc etc. But accept these and suspend judgements about it over these and you have what it has always been - "escapist" cartoon-like entertainment.
Jericho
11-11-2012, 04:41 PM
There is thankfully a little more wit than the first of the Craig Bonds - and I've never summoned the will to watch Quantum Of Solace.
Get an watch QOS you tart, it ties up the loose ends!
Jericho
11-11-2012, 05:06 PM
Bugger, that's supposed to be fat tart!
Prospero
11-11-2012, 05:29 PM
You been looking at my private profile again Jericho?
Jericho
11-11-2012, 05:44 PM
You been looking at my private profile again Jericho?
Brrrrrrrrrr, i should coco! :hide-1:
Never mind trying to distract me, get and watch it!
Stavros
11-11-2012, 05:54 PM
Daniel Day-Lewis is actually an excellent actor. I see you disagree. So be it. Two Oscars for best actor already under his belt. Which of his films have you seen?
And he was NOT in Skyfall. I didn't say I approved of "queers" as being evil. There are many many things wrong with the Bond films - objectification of women, worship of macho values, celebration of violence etc etc etc. But accept these and suspend judgements about it over these and you have what it has always been - "escapist" cartoon-like entertainment.
What does an Oscar have to do with anything? You of all people should not be associating ability with that lump of metal. And of course I have see DDL in films, not the least the dire There Will Be Blood a badly written film of such relentless hoakum I don't know why it was made, in which DDL manages to maintain the same agonised expression on his face from first to last. To me he is one of that select group of 'actors': Denzel Washington, Ryan Gosling, Nicolas Cage and Ralph Fiennes -of whom to call them wooden is an insult to trees.
You may be right about Skyfall and I will even go and see it, but you can't pretend that there is no meaning in the choice of villain in popular movies, and that these change with the times (Russians, Arabs, Muslims, the Chinese, and so on) and you don't need to be a Professor of Film Theory to work it out.
Jericho
11-11-2012, 05:59 PM
What does an Oscar have to do with anything? You of all people should not be associating ability with that lump of metal.
:lol:
I know this isn't addressed to me but, I love you...You cantankerous old bastard!
Dino Velvet
11-11-2012, 06:24 PM
What does an Oscar have to do with anything? You of all people should not be associating ability with that lump of metal.
Splendid, old chap!:party:
Stavros
11-11-2012, 07:52 PM
First of all I would like to thank my producer, my agent and my wife without whom this project would never have seen the light of day....
In the meantime this is an interesting list
http://1.2.3.11/bmi/www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2012/11/07/121108_BB_presidents-in-film_v2.jpg
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/11/08/presidents_in_movies_which_american_president_appe ars_in_the_most_films.html
Prospero
11-11-2012, 08:24 PM
Again your judgement is yours. Oscars are awarded, as are Baftas, for many things and many reasons. But they are voted on by the industry. By the peers of the actors, directors, producers and others who work in the industry. For many reasons. I disagree profoundly with your opinion - which is all it is. Your are probably THE most intelligent person posting on this site, (your discussion of Popper and Wittgenstein in another thread demonstrates that amply) but you also seem to believe your intelligence makes your opinion infallible. it is not. Your wisdom and intelligence is directly in balance with your pompous self importance.
Stavros
11-11-2012, 09:16 PM
Again your judgement is yours. Oscars are awarded, as are Baftas, for many things and many reasons. But they are voted on by the industry. By the peers of the actors, directors, producers and others who work in the industry. For many reasons. I disagree profoundly with your opinion - which is all it is. Your are probably THE most intelligent person posting on this site, (your discussion of Popper and Wittgenstein in another thread demonstrates that amply) but you also seem to believe your intelligence makes your opinion infallible. it is not. Your wisdom and intelligence is directly in balance with your pompous self importance.
I obviously cannot agree -I consider myself of average intelligence, and you know perfectly well that there are posters on HA whose knowledge of, say, science is superior to mine; and you mistake strong opinions for pompous self-importance. The problem with art is that you cannot prove that Daniel Day-Lewis is more worthy of a gong than Peter Sarsgard; you can defend the Oscars as an industry-based awards system, but was Driving Miss Daisy really the best film of 1989 and Jessica Tandy the best actress? According to you the art is not the point, it is recognition for Jessica Tandy not dying at the age of 50. I am much more flexible and pragmatic in my opinions than you might think, I just don't do charity very well, and in any case, all my opinions are there to be challenged, if anyone is up to it. There are no sacred cows, not in art anyway. And for what it's worth, I have changed my views over the years and see them constantly evolving.
Dino Velvet
11-11-2012, 09:24 PM
I obviously cannot agree -I consider myself of average intelligence, and you know perfectly well that there are posters on HA whose knowledge of, say, science is superior to mine; and you mistake strong opinions for pompous self-importance. The problem with art is that you cannot prove that Daniel Day-Lewis is more worthy of a gong than Peter Sarsgard; you can defend the Oscars as an industry-based awards system, but was Driving Miss Daisy really the best film of 1989 and Jessica Tandy the best actress? According to you the art is not the point, it is recognition for Jessica Tandy not dying at the age of 50. I am much more flexible and pragmatic in my opinions than you might think, I just don't do charity very well, and in any case, all my opinions are there to be challenged, if anyone is up to it. There are no sacred cows, not in art anyway. And for what it's worth, I have changed my views over the years and see them constantly evolving.
Here! Here! I also defend your open-mindedness on film.
Prospero
11-12-2012, 01:47 AM
Stavros. Regarding your level of intelligence then you and I must agree to disagree. LOL
It must, then, be your tone. It comes across as abrasive certainty - rather than the expression of an opinion. I would never claim mine to be other than opinion - but bolstered my belief that Day-Lewis is a fine actor with reference to a wider acclaim accorded him. I fully accept you think he is not. I accept i might be wrong. Do you?
Dino Velvet
11-12-2012, 01:48 AM
You fellas are a little fastidious and like to peck away at each other.
BluegrassCat
11-12-2012, 02:01 AM
I fully accept you think he is not. I accept i might be wrong. Do you?
I think we can all agree that Tyler Perry's "Madea Goes to Jail" grossed nearly 100 million dollars and is therefore a great movie.
Dino Velvet
11-12-2012, 02:27 AM
I have a tenant who wrote a film that had a budget of $10 Million but grossed an embarrassing $317,382. It received a 7.3 on IMDb. How can you tell if that's a good film? Ask the few people leaving the theater if they liked it. As far as success there isn't any. I hope he's allowed to write another film worthy of a 7.3. His rent will be due eventually again.
Jack59
11-12-2012, 04:10 AM
On account of it being Veteran's Day I just finished watching Kelly's Heroes
RallyCola
11-12-2012, 04:33 AM
so....i finally caught Skyfall this weekend.
as a movie devoid of any affiliation to the Bond franchise, it drags and is not very good.
as a bond movie, it is terrible.
don't believe the hype. the story has no arc, it is not realistic and of course the villain has an overcomplicated plan that has to work perfectly well at every turn after being unnoticed and dormant for years for vengeance, and bond becomes nothing more than a testament to what the movie preaches against (old ways vs. new ways).
i was so damn disappointed. the only positive is that javier channeled a gay anton chiguar and was funny but otherwise one dimensional.
this is by far the worst of the modern Bond flicks (pierce and craig).
danthepoetman
11-12-2012, 05:10 AM
Watched the latest version of “The Three Musketeers” with my gf yesterday. By director Paul W.S. Anderson, (2011) with a good, largely British cast. Yet another delirium based on the beautifully written novel from Dumas. I remember watching a series in 7 or 8 episodes, maybe 40 years ago, that faithfully followed the novel, and included parts of Dumas’ follow up, “40 Years After” and “The Vicomte de Bragelone”; it still is unfortunately the best adaptation I’ve seen to this day. This movie is beautifully made, great special effects, quite entertaining with a lot of action, but it’s a teenager movie, if not a child movie. Seem like a Walt Disney production. The thin plot line mimics from afar the original one but is otherwise filled with ridiculous developments. Utterly disappointing once again. (My gf fell asleep half way through...)
The Three Musketeers 3D (2011) - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQd3MwT2fAM)
Three Musketeers - Official Trailer 2 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38an1IAG1TA)
robertlouis
11-12-2012, 06:04 AM
First of all I would like to thank my producer, my agent and my wife without whom this project would never have seen the light of day....
In the meantime this is an interesting list
http://1.2.3.11/bmi/www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2012/11/07/121108_BB_presidents-in-film_v2.jpg
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/11/08/presidents_in_movies_which_american_president_appe ars_in_the_most_films.html
An interesting list indeed Stavros - thank you. And I note with a degree of enthusiasm that Bill Murray will be appearing as FDR in a new movie - promising combination of a favourite actor and a personal hero in the person of Roosevelt. I'll also wait with a degree of trepidation till I see Spielberg's Lincoln - his take on War Horse was a horrible and over-sentimentalised mess after the brilliance and sheer emotion of the stage version, which also has a vastly superior soundtrack to John Williams' overblown efforts in the film.
BUT.... it has Daniel Day-Lewis in the title role, and that for me is enough to justify parting with the necessary folding. I'm firmly with Prospero on that.
So, Stavros, I ask with a degree of some trepidation - who do you consider to be the best actors currently working in film?
Cecil Rhodes
11-12-2012, 06:26 AM
Hey, there were Komodo Dragons in the film . They also had that Wiry Goofy Guy as the villian & you can't forget the DiverShitty involved with the new Money-Penny .
so....i finally caught Skyfall this weekend.
as a movie devoid of any affiliation to the Bond franchise, it drags and is not very good.
as a bond movie, it is terrible.
don't believe the hype. the story has no arc, it is not realistic and of course the villain has an overcomplicated plan that has to work perfectly well at every turn after being unnoticed and dormant for years for vengeance, and bond becomes nothing more than a testament to what the movie preaches against (old ways vs. new ways).
i was so damn disappointed. the only positive is that javier channeled a gay anton chiguar and was funny but otherwise one dimensional.
this is by far the worst of the modern Bond flicks (pierce and craig).
Stavros
11-12-2012, 06:45 AM
Stavros. Regarding your level of intelligence then you and I must agree to disagree. LOL
It must, then, be your tone. It comes across as abrasive certainty - rather than the expression of an opinion. I would never claim mine to be other than opinion - but bolstered my belief that Day-Lewis is a fine actor with reference to a wider acclaim accorded him. I fully accept you think he is not. I accept i might be wrong. Do you?
Yes of course, because I just don't relate to the work that Day-Lewis has done, though I really can't accept that winning an oscar is the confirmation of his skills, it has to be based on more than that, and that is also true of everyone else. My tone is irritating and I am aware of that, it has got me into trouble in the past, nothing serious but definitely embarrassing, but I do sometimes think people are too timid when being asked to express themselves. These days nobody I think, would be allowed to publish this kind of journalism, which nevertheless was typical of Hanslick -it is his review of Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto from 1881:
The Russian composer Tchaikovsky is surely no ordinary talent, but rather, an inflated one, obsessed with posturing as a genius, lacking discrimination and taste….The same can be said for his new, long, and ambitious Violin Concerto. For a while it proceeds soberly, musically, and not mindlessly, but soon vulgarity gains the upper hand and dominates until the end of the first movement. The violin is no longer played; it is tugged about, torn, beaten black and blue….The Adagio is well on the way to reconciling us and winning us over, but it soon breaks off to make way for a finale that transports us to the brutal and wretched jollity of a Russian church festival. We see a host of savage, vulgar faces, we hear crude curses, and smell the booze. In the course of a discussion of obscene illustrations, Friedrich Vischer once maintained that there were pictures which one could see stink. Tchaikovsky’s Violin Concerto for the first time confronts us with the hideous idea that there may be compositions whose stink one can hear.
Stavros
11-12-2012, 06:48 AM
Dino I watched Dario Argento's The Bird with Crystal Plumage, his directorial debut in 1970, but it was disappointing, do you rate it? As usual the dubbing was cackhanded and awful.
Dino Velvet
11-12-2012, 07:05 AM
Dino I watched Dario Argento's The Bird with Crystal Plumage, his directorial debut in 1970, but it was disappointing, do you rate it? As usual the dubbing was cackhanded and awful.
Sorry you didn't like that one. The Bird is one of my favorite. I like the usual look and colors of his films and enjoyed the way the action was shot. Soundtrack too. Sometimes you gotta be pretty forgiving when watching a whacky Giallo film. The dubbing is always bad. Even in Italian it's dubbed and not well either.
Have you seen Deep Red? If you ever get into more Giallo, check out some Sergio Martino.
Always like this one too.
http://vamkino.net/_ld/6/51330930.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pNqHK80Q-8
RallyCola
11-12-2012, 07:10 AM
Hey, there were Komodo Dragons in the film . They also had that Wiry Goofy Guy as the villian & you can't forget the DiverShitty involved with the new Money-Penny .
the entire sequence from the conversation in the casino in maccau through the line "what makes you think this is my first time" was crap including using the damn lizard as a step ladder.
i like naomi harris...i'd fuck her sideways...and i really don't care if moneypenny is black...but that they purposefully leave her name out till the end, "oh we have never formally been introduced..." is utter garbage. its their attempt at a plot twist and to avoid the fact that this is ultimately a prequel to establish a Bond devoid of personal feelings for anyone (he has no vested interests anymore after what happens in the chapel), just vengeance and country first, that M has to be a dude and moneypenny has to be a secretary.
moreover, the utter lack of originality and nods to other movies was annoying. ralphy boy was miscast...he can't play such a lightweight character well...its forced and plastic. ben whishaw as an emo quartermaster computer genius was horrid. i'm not saying Q has to be a bumbling idiot, but why did it have to be so cliche...pick a young kid but making him regular...why does he have to be an emo douche? the old gameskeeper that taught bond to shoot, the ubersmart villain that is a kick-assed hacker, because we all know that hacking with super cool undetectable algorithms is sexy and smart...the list of cliches goes on and on. the movie was a clusterfuck of too many ideas, a poorly conceived plot, a divide between a story of a mother and son scorned vs. redemption and finally, what really killed it for me is that judi dench all of a sudden is a fucking action star killing people and making light-bulb IEDs. M isn't supposed to handle a gun and do wet work.
my point is this....this was a bad movie, but even worse as a bond movie. don't believe the marketing lies because the critics that love this movie probably think the flintstones are historically accurate.
Stavros
11-12-2012, 07:17 AM
So, Stavros, I ask with a degree of some trepidation - who do you consider to be the best actors currently working in film?
Bogus question I think, as I have no idea who the best film actors are. As far as this parlour game goes, contemporary actors whose work I have enjoyed include Michael Fassbender, Jeffrey Wright, Peter Sarsgard, Mathieu Kassowitz (who also directs), Vincent Cassel and even Brad Pitt whose more recent films have been a major improvement over the earlier works; Jamie Foxx and Edward Norton have also made enjoyable films, and so on. There are a lot of very good actors out there, they don't always make great films, but I think this generation is as good as any previous one. There are actors like David Strathairn who often play in secondary roles but whose ability can be fundamental to the success of the film, so how does one make a list without including such actors? And I assume we are not talking about 'movie stars' whose box office attraction can make or break a film. I enjoy a lot of films which don't require really great acting, so that is another level of appreciation.
Stavros
11-12-2012, 07:19 AM
Sorry you didn't like that one. The Bird is one of my favorite. I like the usual look and colors of his films and enjoyed the way the action was shot. Soundtrack too. Sometimes you gotta be pretty forgiving when watching a whacky Giallo film. The dubbing is always bad. Even in Italian it's dubbed and not well either.
Have you seen Deep Red? If you ever get into more Giallo, check out some Sergio Martino.
It was on BBC4 and I think its the first of a short season of Giallo films so there will be another one next week, don't know which. Tenebre is my favourite, for obvious reasons. Although there is a transvestite in Bird, so I wonder if Argento is 'one of us'...?
robertlouis
11-12-2012, 07:25 AM
Bogus question I think, as I have no idea who the best film actors are. As far as this parlour game goes, contemporary actors whose work I have enjoyed include Michael Fassbender, Jeffrey Wright, Peter Sarsgard, Mathieu Kassowitz (who also directs), Vincent Cassel and even Brad Pitt whose more recent films have been a major improvement over the earlier works; Jamie Foxx and Edward Norton have also made enjoyable films, and so on. There are a lot of very good actors out there, they don't always make great films, but I think this generation is as good as any previous one. There are actors like David Strathairn who often play in secondary roles but whose ability can be fundamental to the success of the film, so how does one make a list without including such actors? And I assume we are not talking about 'movie stars' whose box office attraction can make or break a film. I enjoy a lot of films which don't require really great acting, so that is another level of appreciation.
I'd heartily endorse each of your choices and could easily add more Frenchmen after Cassel. And you're right, this is not about stars and their ability to "sell" a film: that is entirely to do with pushing a commodity and not about creating art. Strathairn was mesmerising as Ed Murrow in Goodbye and Good Luck. I enjoyed Javier Bardem immensely in The Sea Inside and Philip Seymour Hoffman in The Talented Mr Ripley, but too many actors' choices become a compromise with Hollywood. And Tom Cruise, despite Magnolia, is only good at grinning and running.
Dino Velvet
11-12-2012, 07:39 AM
It was on BBC4 and I think its the first of a short season of Giallo films so there will be another one next week, don't know which. Tenebre is my favourite, for obvious reasons. Although there is a transvestite in Bird, so I wonder if Argento is 'one of us'...?
Daughter Asia might be interested in the TS Community.
Tenebre is my #1 Argento too. You much for Suspiria or Inferno? Nightmarish films you just go with the flow. The last of that series, Mother Of Tears, is beyond terrible.
Trauma is one I like that always gets panned. That head removal machine with the fishwire was impressive. Dumb Oliver looking kid with the glasses...
robertlouis
11-12-2012, 07:45 AM
It was on BBC4 and I think its the first of a short season of Giallo films so there will be another one next week, don't know which. Tenebre is my favourite, for obvious reasons. Although there is a transvestite in Bird, so I wonder if Argento is 'one of us'...?
I've got it in the can for viewing later. I suspect that BBC4 showed it as a coda to Mark Gatiss's documentary film Horror Europa which I mentioned earlier in the thread.
Dino Velvet
11-12-2012, 08:16 AM
I've got it in the can for viewing later. I suspect that BBC4 showed it as a coda to Mark Gatiss's documentary film Horror Europa which I mentioned earlier in the thread.
I have a 3 part documentary of A History of Horror with Mark Gatiss. I'm a junkie for stuff like that.
Prospero
11-12-2012, 10:11 AM
Strathairn is also excellent in Lincoln
Cecil Rhodes
11-12-2012, 10:24 AM
i wouldn't know much about the Macao scene because i started 40 winking from the time the assassin shot the guy in Shanghai until the helicopters showed up on the deserted island .
the entire sequence from the conversation in the casino in maccau through the line "what makes you think this is my first time" was crap including using the damn lizard as a step ladder.
i like naomi harris...i'd fuck her sideways...and i really don't care if moneypenny is black...but that they purposefully leave her name out till the end, "oh we have never formally been introduced..." is utter garbage. its their attempt at a plot twist and to avoid the fact that this is ultimately a prequel to establish a Bond devoid of personal feelings for anyone (he has no vested interests anymore after what happens in the chapel), just vengeance and country first, that M has to be a dude and moneypenny has to be a secretary.
moreover, the utter lack of originality and nods to other movies was annoying. ralphy boy was miscast...he can't play such a lightweight character well...its forced and plastic. ben whishaw as an emo quartermaster computer genius was horrid. i'm not saying Q has to be a bumbling idiot, but why did it have to be so cliche...pick a young kid but making him regular...why does he have to be an emo douche? the old gameskeeper that taught bond to shoot, the ubersmart villain that is a kick-assed hacker, because we all know that hacking with super cool undetectable algorithms is sexy and smart...the list of cliches goes on and on. the movie was a clusterfuck of too many ideas, a poorly conceived plot, a divide between a story of a mother and son scorned vs. redemption and finally, what really killed it for me is that judi dench all of a sudden is a fucking action star killing people and making light-bulb IEDs. M isn't supposed to handle a gun and do wet work.
my point is this....this was a bad movie, but even worse as a bond movie. don't believe the marketing lies because the critics that love this movie probably think the flintstones are historically accurate.
dderek123
11-12-2012, 01:21 PM
Just watched wanderlust. The part where the guy gives himself a pep talk in the mirror had me rolling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Cjn7JMqgE&feature=related
dderek123
11-12-2012, 01:22 PM
Better quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8dR2Xs7ZBI&feature=related
Stavros
11-13-2012, 11:32 PM
Did you like Denzel Washington in Training Day? I'm not a huge fan of his but I enjoyed that role. Like to see him play another baddie.
Training Day was on tv last night, so I watched it. Disaster. Good cop/bad cop, old cop/young cop, renegade cop/rule-book cop and so on I don't know how many such films there are, some, like the Dirty Harry set are even watchable. In this one, in spite of boasting about how many druggies he has banged up or has waiting for trial, the DZ character never writes a report, never sets foot inside a police station, has one conference with superior officers who seem little interested in his work and then draws on a team to first dig up $4m that has been sealed in a trunk underneath a concrete floor, before murdering the peddlar who it belongs to. How the peddlar was supposed to get at his own money is not explained; why the rookie who has a wife and a new-born baby never once calls home in the entire training day, not even to say he is going to be late, is not explained. But because we are asked to take seriously this depiction of the 'other side' of LA, is it escapist fantasy? Rookie cop has head thrown through a window, after which DZ smashes a deckchair on the same head, and throws his victim, a fellow policeman, from a fifth floor balcony onto a mezzanine below; moments later, rookie cop leaps from roughly the 4th floor onto the bonnet of DZ's car, with no apparent injury and so on and so on. Seeing Maori Cliff Curtis pretending to be a latino homeboy wasn't much of an improvement either. Apparently the crime writer James Elroy Flecker descibed this film as a waste of time, which is an understatement. Needless to say, Denzel Washington dominates this film with his wooden delivery and histrionics. A waste of time indeed.
Absarokah
11-13-2012, 11:36 PM
127 hours...would you be able to?
Prospero
11-13-2012, 11:44 PM
Stavros - the crime writer James Elroy Flecker? Reviewing films in between writing stanzas of the Golden Road to Samarkand?
Stavros
11-14-2012, 02:58 AM
Stavros - the crime writer James Elroy Flecker? Reviewing films in between writing stanzas of the Golden Road to Samarkand?
Oops! Looks like I been fleckered on that one! James Ellroy.
Dino Velvet
11-14-2012, 03:23 AM
Training Day was on tv last night, so I watched it. Disaster. Good cop/bad cop, old cop/young cop, renegade cop/rule-book cop and so on I don't know how many such films there are, some, like the Dirty Harry set are even watchable. In this one, in spite of boasting about how many druggies he has banged up or has waiting for trial, the DZ character never writes a report, never sets foot inside a police station, has one conference with superior officers who seem little interested in his work and then draws on a team to first dig up $4m that has been sealed in a trunk underneath a concrete floor, before murdering the peddlar who it belongs to. How the peddlar was supposed to get at his own money is not explained; why the rookie who has a wife and a new-born baby never once calls home in the entire training day, not even to say he is going to be late, is not explained. But because we are asked to take seriously this depiction of the 'other side' of LA, is it escapist fantasy? Rookie cop has head thrown through a window, after which DZ smashes a deckchair on the same head, and throws his victim, a fellow policeman, from a fifth floor balcony onto a mezzanine below; moments later, rookie cop leaps from roughly the 4th floor onto the bonnet of DZ's car, with no apparent injury and so on and so on. Seeing Maori Cliff Curtis pretending to be a latino homeboy wasn't much of an improvement either. Apparently the crime writer James Elroy Flecker descibed this film as a waste of time, which is an understatement. Needless to say, Denzel Washington dominates this film with his wooden delivery and histrionics. A waste of time indeed.
Training Day was based on the LAPD Rampart Scandal. FX's The Shield was too.
LAPD Rampart Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPD_Rampart_Division)
Rampart scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal)
Sorry buddy. I'll flip you a few Spaghetti Westerns. You seem good with those.
Can't go wrong with Lee Van Cleef. Tomas Milian does a nice job too.
The Big Gundown | Trailer | 1966 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oep0chYObTk)
La Resa dei Conti The Big Gundown - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdrrWzmK-V4)
fred41
11-14-2012, 04:12 AM
Training Day was based on the LAPD Rampart Scandal. FX's The Shield was too.
You might like this...saw it a couple of weeks ago....doesn't really have an ending though (in my opinion).
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Dino Velvet
11-14-2012, 04:15 AM
You might like this...saw it a couple of weeks ago....doesn't really have an ending though (in my opinion).
Rampart (2011) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640548/)
I remember seeing the poster recently. Probably check it out on DirecTV when it comes on. Thanks.
Cecil Rhodes
11-14-2012, 04:24 AM
I saw Wreck-It Ralph .
Stavros
11-14-2012, 01:33 PM
You might like this...saw it a couple of weeks ago....doesn't really have an ending though (in my opinion).
Rampart (2011) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640548/)
Thanks -I did read that a lot of this stuff is based on reality, although I really do find it hard to believe that a man who has been beaten to a pulp and had his head thrown through a window can still leap four storeys onto a car, etc etc. And since Ellroy was on this one if I can find it I will watch it.
Dino -will look out for the van Cleef film; he was a natural for westerns.
Dino Velvet
11-14-2012, 06:30 PM
Dino -will look out for the van Cleef film; he was a natural for westerns.
The Big Gundown is out of print here. Let me know if you need help finding a good copy in your format. You want the uncut version. I got mine on eBay from a guy who does restoration on Spaghetti Westerns. It was a bootleg but a good one and all that is/was available.
bimale69
11-15-2012, 05:17 AM
The Road.
Prospero
11-15-2012, 11:20 AM
The Road... what a depressing film that was, though nowhere near as bleak as the book on which is was based
danthepoetman
11-15-2012, 07:25 PM
The Road.
The Road... what a depressing film that was, though nowhere near as bleak as the book on which is was based
Haven't read the book, Prospero, but the movie was one of the darkest I have ever seen...
Darkseid
11-15-2012, 07:53 PM
Skyfall
Prospero
11-15-2012, 08:49 PM
The Road is by Cormac McCarthy. Trish uses a line from one of his others - "Blood Meridian -The Evening Redness in The West" - on her signature. That book was, in its own way, even bleaker about humanity. A cheery writer.
The difference between the film and the book of The Road - as i recall - is that the film leaves the tiniest glimmer of hope at the end. The book does not.
Dino Velvet
11-15-2012, 09:04 PM
It's a crime this isn't out on Blu-ray. Hello Blue Underground, Anchor Bay, or Severin...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYZ8Skftug
http://www.grouchoyyo.com/2folio/giallovenezia2fb.jpg
tommy001
11-15-2012, 10:08 PM
Bolt
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/44/Bolt_ver2.jpg/220px-Bolt_ver2.jpg
fred41
11-16-2012, 01:49 AM
"Lockdown" with Guy Pearce...don't waste your time...better off just staring at a blank wall.
Dino Velvet
11-20-2012, 04:41 AM
Best Christmas Film ever!
romper stomper - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaw976fjcZg)
Prospero
11-20-2012, 10:59 AM
"Source Code".. sharp little sc-fi film.
'Source Code' Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkTrG-gpIzE)
Stavros
11-20-2012, 04:55 PM
"Source Code".. sharp little sc-fi film.
'Source Code' Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkTrG-gpIzE)
Jake Gyllenhaal can be relied on for a better-than-average film even if this one was predictable; I also like Vera Farmiga, she was enchanting in Henry's Crime, a rather daft film which at least had some Chekhov. Farmiga didn't speak English until she was 6, having been born into a Ukrainian family.
irvin66
11-21-2012, 06:51 PM
I do not know if this is classified as a film, but he is a crazy Russian!:wiggle:
Hitman - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9SalJ-ohls&feature=colike)
brickcitybrother
11-22-2012, 04:15 AM
Flight
&
Skyfall
fred41
11-22-2012, 07:29 AM
The Hunter...very good.
Last night I watched: American: The Bill Hicks Story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIaTFag26vc
Prospero
11-24-2012, 06:30 PM
"A Liar's Autobiography" This is an animated film purporting to tell the story of Graham Chapman, the Monty Python who was gay and died of cancer several years go. It is a pointless, crass and unfunny piece of film making.
Jericho
11-24-2012, 06:52 PM
Looper.
I enjoyed the trailer more than the film. :shrug
Prospero
11-25-2012, 01:40 AM
Looper.
I enjoyed the trailer more than the film. :shrug
Got to agree with that
Jericho
11-25-2012, 04:10 AM
Four Brothers (Again).
Fukkin love this film, so many great one-liners!
Four Brothers Toilet Edit 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdevRwLI6Ds&feature=related)
danthepoetman
11-25-2012, 07:43 AM
"Two Headed Shark Attack". Bad! But not even funny bad. Very very bad. Terrible!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dd/2HEADEDSHARKATTACKDVD.jpg/427px-2HEADEDSHARKATTACKDVD.jpg
Dino suggested a rating scale to me: 1 to 5 whisky bottles, 1 being the best to 5 being the worst. Well, this one deserves an easy
danthepoetman
11-25-2012, 07:54 AM
Also watched "The Woman in Black", a soft horror movie directed by James Watkins, with Daniel Radcliffe. A young lawyer is sent in a small town to close an inheritance file no one seems to be able to dig into. My girlfriend liked it a lot. The setting, probably largely made by computer, is just amazing. The story line is interresting and in the end, the movie is not that bad. Thin, quite soft to my taste as a horror flick, but it keep your interrest alive and does the job.
http://www.g33kwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/woman_in_black.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/10/18/1318946094652/Still-from-The-Woman-in-B-006.jpg
http://cdn.hollywoodpq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/the-woman-in-black-poster.jpg
http://collegetimes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/daniel-radcliffe-the-woman-in-black2.jpg
On Dino's scale, still a
danthepoetman
11-25-2012, 08:11 AM
"My Talk With Dean Spanley". Not too sure what to think of this one. Weird. But good actors playing well, good lines, quite intelligent with spirited dialogues. Here's the story line, largely taken from IMDb: Each Thursday, a man approaching middle age calls upon his father, aged, caustic, nihilistic, and emotionally distant, perhaps from the loss of a son in the Boer War and his wife soon after. On this day, the son suggests they attend a visiting guru's lecture on the transmigration of souls. There they chat with a vicar and a soldier of fortune; dinner follows. Over glasses of Hungarian Tokay, the vicar, Dean Spanley, reveals that he's been a dog in his former life and starts telling the story... Funny all the way through and surprisingly touching. Not great cinema by any mean, a bit too muchy for my taste, but not that bad.
With a surprising Peter O'Toole, Jeremy Northam, Sam Neil, Bryan Brown and Judy Parfitt, all very good.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Dean_Spanley.jpg
http://www.screentrek.com/images/peter-otoole-and-jeremy-northam-in-dean-spanley1.jpg
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnmaEKoDimie2u116nQwArWJCUv5bRl 4FRxWUoA35HVyfhURpMGlfNKE5bpQ
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-df4GrJmrOSo/T2DcLz0GSPI/AAAAAAAASPY/M1Ff3u2uAkg/s400/DOGS-Dean%2BSpanley-L.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UwyhJwj63L0/SPIab6-TFyI/AAAAAAAAAn4/PODeQA9d01U/s640/deanspanley.jpg
On Dino's scale, I'll be generous enough to give this one a
Prospero
11-25-2012, 05:48 PM
You've been on an all night movie marathon, Dan?
Dino Velvet
11-25-2012, 05:53 PM
I just gave Dan an excuse to drink. Carry on, Daniel.:cheers:
This guy really likes movies. Can't tell if he just saw a really bad one or 5 good ones in a row.
danthepoetman
11-26-2012, 12:59 AM
You've been on an all night movie marathon, Dan?
From Friday and Saturday. My girlfriend and I, we just get on the old futon and watch a few, cuddling and drinking; for her it's sherry, for me, well, Scotch whisky.
I just gave Dan an excuse to drink. Carry on, Daniel.:cheers:
This guy really likes movies. Can't tell if he just saw a really bad one or 5 good ones in a row.
Thanks, Dino! I sometimes wish I'd need excuses to drink... Unfortunately (or, by good easy going life standards, fortunately) almost every event in my day seem like a reason to celebrate... :)
Love that scaling system, Dino!
Yvonne183
11-26-2012, 01:34 AM
I saw two movies this weekend.
"Night Mother'
and
"Girl Interrupted"
Educational
danthepoetman
11-26-2012, 01:40 AM
I saw two movies this weekend.
"Night Mother'
and
"Girl Interrupted"
Educational
I enjoyed a lot "Night Mother", with Sissy Spaceck, strangely from a director by the name of Tom Moore, obviously not the male adult performer. From a play by Marsha Norman.
The intimate dialogue and debate between a mother and her divorced, hopeless daughter who decided to suicide. No lace and fluffiness in this one. Very well conducted and poignant. Good movie, Yvonne.
mmolotov75
11-27-2012, 07:27 AM
Skyfall-enjoyed the movie overall but some aspects were too pat explanations of the Bond mythology
robertlouis
11-27-2012, 07:34 AM
Inland Empire, a David Lynch movie on Channel 4 last night. Another over-intense narrative with rather too much handheld close-up photography. Not one of his best, but it had the redeeming feature of Laura Dern as the star.
In the can for watching later this week, Micmacs, a film by the guy who made Amelie, supposedly another tour de force of visual effects. We'll see.
danthepoetman
11-27-2012, 08:02 AM
Inland Empire, a David Lynch movie on Channel 4 last night. Another over-intense narrative with rather too much handheld close-up photography. Not one of his best, but it had the redeeming feature of Laura Dern as the star.
In the can for watching later this week, Micmacs, a film by the guy who made Amelie, supposedly another tour de force of visual effects. We'll see.
I never got to the end of Inland Empire. I had trouble with Lost Highway too; I felt he was somewhat repeating himself, that the subject had too much to do with that of Mulholand Drive. But in the end, I got to like it. As to Mulholand Drive, I loved it. The best to me remains Wild at Heart, especially in the weirder style, getting weirder and weirder, by the way…
Stavros
11-27-2012, 09:06 AM
I never got to the end of Inland Empire. I had trouble with Lost Highway too; I felt he was somewhat repeating himself, that the subject had too much to do with that of Mulholand Drive. But in the end, I got to like it. As to Mulholand Drive, I loved it. The best to me remains Wild at Heart, especially in the weirder style, getting weirder and weirder, by the way…
I also watched this extended piece of vanity last night. I am surprised anyone gets taken in by this con-man posing as a film-maker. Take a tired, tepid moral tale of good versus evil, and wrap it up in non-sequiturs and you have a David Lynch filmm vide Inland Empire -husband/wife gets jealous of husband/wife who is/may be having an affair and it all ends badly, because they don't share David Lynch's Morals of Yesteryear Corrupted By Liberals. Isn't it time that someone told Mr Lynch to forget about the rabbits, the rabbis and the rascals and just make a tv sermon for some evangelical channel? At least in Blue Velvet he marks his card at the very beginning when the all-American Boy Jeff is told by his grandmother not to go to the 'other side of the tracks' when going out at night, which of course he does, to become tangled up in that other America that intellectually-challenged Republican trash like Lynch want 'cleansed'.
danthepoetman
11-27-2012, 10:43 AM
I also watched this extended piece of vanity last night. I am surprised anyone gets taken in by this con-man posing as a film-maker. Take a tired, tepid moral tale of good versus evil, and wrap it up in non-sequiturs and you have a David Lynch filmm vide Inland Empire -husband/wife gets jealous of husband/wife who is/may be having an affair and it all ends badly, because they don't share David Lynch's Morals of Yesteryear Corrupted By Liberals. Isn't it time that someone told Mr Lynch to forget about the rabbits, the rabbis and the rascals and just make a tv sermon for some evangelical channel? At least in Blue Velvet he marks his card at the very beginning when the all-American Boy Jeff is told by his grandmother not to go to the 'other side of the tracks' when going out at night, which of course he does, to become tangled up in that other America that intellectually-challenged Republican trash like Lynch want 'cleansed'.
True. There is that easy moralistic connotation in several of Lynch’s movies. But in the weirder style, the one from, say, Blue Velvet on, I’m not sure you can say the same of Wild at Heart or of Mulholand Dr. In the first, yes, we’re talking about a guy who’s trying is best to stay out of trouble, but he’s a gangster! In the second one, much deeper, as far as I’m concerned (unless I read in it what I project myself), he deals with identity, empathy, social pressure and role playing, all of that in very well, softly photograph, beautifully coloured settings with a solid cast –especially the lovely Naomi Watts. Then again, he doesn’t concede anything to the viewer and his pictures are increasingly difficult to “read”, so much so that in the end, it really is too much, and gets to be totally disinteresting. I trust your judgement on Inland Empire, Stavros, as I never got through more than a half hour of it.
I admit I find your analysis absolutely adequate for Twin Peaks and some other of his movies. Great, enlightening comments as usual…
Cecil Rhodes
11-27-2012, 11:33 AM
Red dawn
Prospero
11-27-2012, 02:15 PM
"The Imposter" a feature lengthy documentary featuring a quite remarkable story - a young Frenchman who impersonated a missing thirteen year old boy from Texas. The family accepted that he was their missing son - even though he looked nothing like him, spoke with a French accent and had imperfect English and was 24 years old. The denouement leaves many open questions.
Dino Velvet
11-27-2012, 06:55 PM
Any of you guys seen Hitchcock yet?
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http://g.gazetaprawna.pl/p/_wspolne/pliki/1082000/1082732-hitchcock10.jpg
Prospero
11-27-2012, 07:21 PM
Yes - saw "Hitchcock" a couple of weeks ago. Excellent film. All focuses around the making of Psycho.
And a great final shot.
Dino Velvet
11-27-2012, 07:23 PM
Yes - saw "Hitchcock" a couple of weeks ago. Excellent film. All focuses around the making of Psycho.
And a great final shot.
Thanks buddy. I'm sold. Probably see it this week or next. I'm a really bad procrastinator when it comes to going to the movies. I'd like to see this on a big screen.
Stavros
11-27-2012, 07:28 PM
True. There is that easy moralistic connotation in several of Lynch’s movies. But in the weirder style, the one from, say, Blue Velvet on, I’m not sure you can say the same of Wild at Heart or of Mulholand Dr. In the first, yes, we’re talking about a guy who’s trying is best to stay out of trouble, but he’s a gangster! In the second one, much deeper, as far as I’m concerned (unless I read in it what I project myself), he deals with identity, empathy, social pressure and role playing, all of that in very well, softly photograph, beautifully coloured settings with a solid cast –especially the lovely Naomi Watts. Then again, he doesn’t concede anything to the viewer and his pictures are increasingly difficult to “read”, so much so that in the end, it really is too much, and gets to be totally disinteresting. I trust your judgement on Inland Empire, Stavros, as I never got through more than a half hour of it.
I admit I find your analysis absolutely adequate for Twin Peaks and some other of his movies. Great, enlightening comments as usual…
Hmmm Mulholland Drive...starry-eyed Hollywood wannabe rich and famous arrives from the Prairies, ends up on the backside of a jaded diner addicted to heroin and bad men, even though she actually showed some talent. Isn't it wicked how Hollywood corrupts the young? You are surely not fooled by all that empty gesturing and groping of attractive women in apartments they don't own -perhaps like Kubrick Lynch has discovered a way of ogling semi-naked women he isn't married to. I am sure Lynch has his admirers, but not me. I once knew someone who claimed Blue Velvet was the greatest film ever made, mind you the week after it was Brazil. Some people are never pleased.
Dino Velvet
11-27-2012, 07:39 PM
David Lynch is real hit and miss with me. I like The Elephant Man and Blue Velvet but just can't get into his more obscure work. I did enjoy him as an actor in Louie recently.
Prospero
11-27-2012, 07:54 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed the chaotic absurdity of Twin Peaks.
Prospero
11-27-2012, 07:56 PM
This one is for Stavros.... sadly only nine minutes of the 12 hour film
Andy Warhol - Empire - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sSsWj2HWk0)
Chaos
11-27-2012, 08:09 PM
Let's see.... In the past 2 days....
Wrath of the Titans,Prometheus,Ted,The Man With the Iron Fists,The Avengers,Dredd,Expendables 2,and,sadly,the new Resident Evil...
robertlouis
11-28-2012, 05:18 AM
Yes - saw "Hitchcock" a couple of weeks ago. Excellent film. All focuses around the making of Psycho.
And a great final shot.
The BBC are running their own Hitchcock bio over Christmas called The Girl, about Hitch's fixation with Tippi Hedren who starred in The Birds and Marnie.
Toby Jones plays Hitchcock. I suspect he'll outshine Hopkins, just as he did Philip Seymour Hoffman as Truman Capote.
Cecil Rhodes
11-28-2012, 05:31 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed the chaotic absurdity of Twin Peaks.
She's dead ....... she's wrapped in plastic
Cecil Rhodes
11-28-2012, 05:36 AM
David Lynch is real hit and miss with me. I like The Elephant Man and Blue Velvet but just can't get into his more obscure work. I did enjoy him as an actor in Louie recently.
Blue Velvet ..... rotflmao . I made my mother watch that film . Why, because she was raised in the Lumberton, NC area . She didn't recognize any of it . .... lmao . It was filmed in Wilmington, NC where my mother spent a few years in .
cooper1986
11-28-2012, 05:44 AM
savages, one of the best movies ive seen in a long time.
Stavros
11-28-2012, 08:05 AM
This one is for Stavros.... sadly only nine minutes of the 12 hour film
Andy Warhol - Empire - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sSsWj2HWk0)
No thanks -when form becomes content and content becomes form you have cinematic solipsism; you know yourself that in even the austere films of Bela Tarr something happens, there is a story and it is told with a visual style that makes sense in its own context even if it is too extreme for many people. Warhol, by contrast, was a lazy individual with nothing to say, as exhibited by this kind of film and his so-called 'art'.
danthepoetman
11-28-2012, 08:56 AM
Hmmm Mulholland Drive...starry-eyed Hollywood wannabe rich and famous arrives from the Prairies, ends up on the backside of a jaded diner addicted to heroin and bad men, even though she actually showed some talent. Isn't it wicked how Hollywood corrupts the young? You are surely not fooled by all that empty gesturing and groping of attractive women in apartments they don't own -perhaps like Kubrick Lynch has discovered a way of ogling semi-naked women he isn't married to. I am sure Lynch has his admirers, but not me. I once knew someone who claimed Blue Velvet was the greatest film ever made, mind you the week after it was Brazil. Some people are never pleased.
You’re right once again, Stavros, the story line is such as you describe. But what about the constant confusion about the identity of the characters? The Naomie Watts character, is she not also the blonde imposed on the director? is she not also her own brunette companion who’s precisely, strangely amnesiac and tries to find whom she is? Is there not a story of role changing through the “magic” of that key box superimposed on the obvious role play everyone in this Hollywood context has to adopt and lead so artificially? Is the candour of the main character not also mocked in some way? There’s a play or a relation between dreams and reality that doesn’t present the former as a golden way to the latter, it seems to me. I don’t pretend to understand a quite mysterious movie, but it seems to be deeper than just a story of a young woman corrupt by Hollywood. It’s all about identity, empathy, social role and position, false sense of freedom, and so on. I don’t know. That’s the way I saw it.
Jericho
11-28-2012, 09:31 AM
Excellent film, Dead Man's Cards.
http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0455933/
Dino, you might enjoy this one, chance to brush up on yer slang.
Prospero
11-28-2012, 11:38 AM
Stavro wrote: "No thanks -when form becomes content and content becomes form you have cinematic solipsism; you know yourself that in even the austere films of Bela Tarr something happens, there is a story and it is told with a visual style that makes sense in its own context even if it is too extreme for many people. Warhol, by contrast, was a lazy individual with nothing to say, as exhibited by this kind of film and his so-called 'art'."
But Stavros, things do happen. At one point the tower is struck by lighting and the lights go on and off at various points.
Just as in Smile by Yoko Ono the big events are when a fly meanders across the screen (in slow motion because the whole thing is slow mo) and when John Lennon finally smiles - an event stretched to several minutes.
Yeah i know a little more happens in Bela tarr's films. I was somewhat in jest.
Dino Velvet
11-28-2012, 06:18 PM
Excellent film, Dead Man's Cards.
http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0455933/
Dino, you might enjoy this one, chance to brush up on yer slang.
Looks decent. Got it confused with Dead Man's Shoes at first. That's another good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFi6FrAV9SE
Stavros
11-28-2012, 07:39 PM
You’re right once again, Stavros, the story line is such as you describe. But what about the constant confusion about the identity of the characters? The Naomie Watts character, is she not also the blonde imposed on the director? is she not also her own brunette companion who’s precisely, strangely amnesiac and tries to find whom she is? Is there not a story of role changing through the “magic” of that key box superimposed on the obvious role play everyone in this Hollywood context has to adopt and lead so artificially? Is the candour of the main character not also mocked in some way? There’s a play or a relation between dreams and reality that doesn’t present the former as a golden way to the latter, it seems to me. I don’t pretend to understand a quite mysterious movie, but it seems to be deeper than just a story of a young woman corrupt by Hollywood. It’s all about identity, empathy, social role and position, false sense of freedom, and so on. I don’t know. That’s the way I saw it.
Fair enough, I don't see it that way, to me Lynch likes dressing up his films with cul-de-sacs because that is his style, and it works if you like watching films with weird people and apparently inexplicable scenes who might be contributing a theme-in essence, Lynch's films are stuffed with this material as a cover for a banal moral view that he hasn't changed for years, I guess if he is comfortable with it and it makes money then so be it. Its not so different from the banality in Tony Morrison's over-rated novels where pseudo-magical realism is a cover for a tedious repetition of America's infatuation with good-triumphs-over-evil stories, Beloved being a typical example. Where, for example, is there any exploration of sexuality in Lynch comparable to the subtlety and anxiety of Bergman's late films, particularly Persona, Hour of the Wolf, The Shame, and Fanny and Alexander? Films that are rich in meaning and visually precise in a manner Lynch cannot even dream of...
danthepoetman
11-28-2012, 11:41 PM
Fair enough, I don't see it that way, to me Lynch likes dressing up his films with cul-de-sacs because that is his style, and it works if you like watching films with weird people and apparently inexplicable scenes who might be contributing a theme-in essence, Lynch's films are stuffed with this material as a cover for a banal moral view that he hasn't changed for years(...)
Yes. That wouldn’t be the first time in history an artist would use this trick, in visual arts, literature nor cinema indeed. I admit it is a bit easy sometimes. Montaigne was already commenting on authors hiding their banality under obscurity almost in the middle of the 16th century...
I guess if he is comfortable with it and it makes money then so be it. Its not so different from the banality in Tony Morrison's over-rated novels where pseudo-magical realism is a cover for a tedious repetition of America's infatuation with good-triumphs-over-evil stories, Beloved being a typical example.
Also agree that American culture in general and cinema in particular, is dominated by manicheistic themes (and concomitent violence)...
...for example, is there any exploration of sexuality in Lynch comparable to the subtlety and anxiety of Bergman's late films, particularly Persona, Hour of the Wolf, The Shame, and Fanny and Alexander? Films that are rich in meaning and visually precise in a manner Lynch cannot even dream of...
I absolutely agree, of course, Stavros. No comparison possible with Bergman, and especially, to my taste, with a movie like Persona which, although somewhat difficult, is a masterpiece, revolving around somewhat the same subject as the lesser Mulholand Dr.
Prospero
11-30-2012, 06:30 PM
"Hyde Park On Hudson" a new film about FDR. After seeing the excellent "Lincoln" recently I was hoping this would do justice to one of America's other greatest presidents. far from it. It is a dull and ugly film, poorly directed and written, which offers a cheap take on his irregular amatory behaviour.
fred41
11-30-2012, 07:16 PM
"The Yellow Sea"...Hwanghae (2010) - IMDb@@AMEPARAM@@http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTQzODg4ODQwNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjA0NTMyNQ@@._ V1._SX98_SY140_.jpg@@AMEPARAM@@BNTQzODg4ODQwNF5BMl 5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjA0NTMyNQ@@@@AMEPARAM@@SX98@@AMEPAR AM@@SY140 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1230385/)
It's a little long and at first,a touch confusing...but thoroughly entertaining if you enjoy violent South Korean movies (and who doesn't?).
irvin66
12-02-2012, 04:30 PM
It's fucking hilarious!!!!! :dead: I Love It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Expendables 2 Official Trailer #2 (2012) Sylvester Stallone Movie HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgEqVYcryWc&feature=colike)
Stavros
12-03-2012, 04:24 AM
Margin Call (2011)
Good ensemble acting, especially from the pemanently reliable Stanley Tucci, the film plays a McGuffin with the financials but otherwise its worth seeing, and should probably rate a 7 out of ten for effort and acting, but lacks any real consequence. The movie on the crash, if there is one, has yet to be made.
Margin Call Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DqFRsPrns)
Stavros
12-08-2012, 01:21 AM
Skyfall -I won't bother listing the credits as there is nothing creditable about it except the end, which couldn't come too soon. This film is so hopelessly bad I am aghast at the critical reception it has received. Ok so like every Bond film it is based on a single idea rather than a plot, but you always know when the franchise managers have run out of ideas altogether when the only villain left is 'one of us'. As there is no plot there can be no plot holes, otherwise this would look like a Swiss cheese, without the delicate taste offset by vintage port and a cream cracker. As soon as I saw Albert Finney on the opening credits I sensed disaster, and there he was, the gamekeeper who has lived amidst the heather all his life but has no Scottish accent but some kind of mid-atlantic drawl as shaggy as his phoney beard and wooden acting. Judi Dench, who I saw on stage eons ago in The Winter's Tale; who sang like a bird in The Cherry Orchard (sounds pompous but some of the finest acting I have ever seen in one of the finest plays ever written), and was devastatingly brilliant in Talking to a Stranger has moved beyond parody, its really rather pathetic. And so on. I paid £5 to see this in the local cinema, tickets are so overpriced these days.
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