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    Default Re: are you in for or against the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by russtafa View Post
    In Australia if a dog bites or harms someone it is put down .The same go's for people,in fact a dog is the better creature because if a dog bites it's only going by it's instinct.A human knows exactly why they do these evil crimes
    As ive said, its better to make them do something useful while they are living, and let God or whatever, take care of afterwards.

    By killing them, you just let them be tottally useless.



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    how can they be useful?


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    Default Re: are you in for or against the death penalty

    State sanctioning the death penalty makes the state, electorate, and anyone else who agrees an accessory to murder.



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    Or an accessory to justice. Never use an argument that takes it's conclusion as a premise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Or an accessory to justice. Never use an argument that takes it's conclusion as a premise.
    In terms of the application of pure logic, you're right of course, Trish.

    But I find the idea of state-sanctioned murder abhorrent in any circumstances. And given that so much of US values are supposedly Christian, I find it utter hypocrisy that so many in your country also seem happy with the death penalty. The old saw of an eye for an eye comes from the Old Testament, not the new. Part of the bible, yes, but not part of the Christian creed.


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    murder go's on all the time in prison usually sponsored by gangs or organised crime what does the justice system think of that?


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    Default Re: are you in for or against the death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by russtafa View Post
    murder go's on all the time in prison usually sponsored by gangs or organised crime what does the justice system think of that?
    In a lot of countries it cynically shrugs its shoulders and lets things carry on as before, and as often as not it's recognised that it couldn't happen without the tacit or backhanded involvement of the prison authorities.


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    and the justice system is perverted in and out of prison and even the judges are frightened


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    Slice & dice. Salvage the parts.


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    what parts? i always liked the French system"guilty until proven innocent" makes it harder to weasel out of it


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