Originally Posted by
beatmaker
Finally, some intelligence on this forum. I rarely come to HA anymore, because it is rife with transsexuals (and dumbass trolls) making slick racist comments, when they have to endure prejudices in their own lives, unless they are extremely passable. Based on avatars and other pics I've seen Kelly Shore, TS Lisa and some of the other past offenders, they aren't unclockable to any sane straight man. I'm not saying they are ugly transgendered women, but they aren't 100% passable like say a Jennifer Paris. Kelly Shore is friends with Mimi Plastique I believe, but says "black men look greasy" and "blacks always play the victim" etc. If I dedicated a day, to thru go thru all her posts on HA, I'm sure I could find a hundred such racially insensitive posts by her. Most Whites who think like Kelly, will befriend a Black, as long as they accept they position as a subordinate in the pecking order. You have Mimi wearing a blond weave and blue color contacts, so you can already get a snapshot into her mindset. She may talk a lot of shyt, but like Lil Kim, their whitewashed appearance tells the real tale. So, it's no suprise Kelly Shore has allowed her to become her friend. Many racially insensitive Whites and whitewashed Blacks have become friends and even lovers. An not to stereotype Texas (Kelly's home state), but there is such an overabundance of small minded, prejudice people living in such a large state. It's much like Arizona, in that way. O.K enough of the chatter, let me dispel much of the simpleminded B.S being passed off as intellectual debate in this thread.
1) Blacks are uneducated and lazy?
This an unknown fact, but African immigrants in the US and UK are one of the Top 3 subgroups in educational achievement. I've also met very few lazy Africans. So, why the difference? The only rationale explanation is 400 years of negative socialization, that most Whites are in denial about.
2)Blacks play the race card and victim all the time?
This one is the most hilarious. The "reverse racism" card is being played so much by Whites nowadays, it's insane (especially once Barack Obama was elected). In this very thread Dolce says "Black people think Obama is going to solve all their problems". Just because Blacks are happy to see a Black president (even if he's biracial) and family in the White House, doesn't mean we think he's gonna solve "our" problems. Most of us know, he actually has to ignore anything pertaining to Blacks, because Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and Dolce's boy Michael Savage, will accuse Pres. Obama of reverse racism and hating Whites like that idiot Glenn Beck did. How can a man who was raised by his White grandparents, hate Whites? Just because he admitted his grandmother made racist comments. Like he's supposed to deny reality to appease White peoples' sensibilities. It's virtually impossible to go into a thread on AOL, Yahoo, TMZ etc about a Black person or celebrity without it becoming a Klan rally. My mother always told me, the worst things get for Whites, the worse the racial animosity will get. American race relations are very Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde-ish in that way. Many time online, these people make racist comments, while simultaneously accusing Blacks of playing the race card. I just saw one today on Yahoo about a Top HS football declaring the college he's attending. Within the first 5 posts, some jackazz says "Well what kind of grades does he have, Oh I forgot he Black I can't ask stuff like that without being racist". You have people saying Obama was born in Kenya or a Muslim, yet say they are sick of people who label Obama critics as racist. No, if you disagree with his economic policies, most Blacks don't take issue with that. However, when you call him a Kenyan, Muslim or call his wife and/or daughters monkeys or ghetto, that's clear racism and these comments are found in these same threads, where people cry reverse racism constantly. I remember I had a part-time job in Macy's in NYC, after I graduated from college to save for my small home recording studio. This White women with a Brooklyn/Jersey accent gonna accuse me and my female dept manager (she was a Black Dominicana) of not allowing her to get a cash return with no receipt, because she was White. She yelled "These azzholes would have done it, if I was Black" when she stormed off with her teenage daughter. I remember I had a manager at an old job accuse me of "hating Whites" because I didn't kiss his azz like the other Blacks at the office. I don't kiss anyone's azz, even Black managers I've had. The real reason he said that was because he saw me reading a book called "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa" by Walter Rodney in the break room. Made a little slick azz comment under his breathe, when he exited the break room too.
3)There is no such thing as White Skin Privilege and Institutionalized Racism?
You can find tons of White women on forums who will yell this to all who will listen, yet these same women will bytch about male paternalism,especially in corporate America. It's so pathological, that I remember the old school talk shows during the Clinton presidency, when the issue of "affirmative action" became the social trigger Republicans used to enrage White voters. There's always one, be it immigration, gay marriage, welfare reform, war on drugs etc. I would hear White women all these complaining about "The Blacks" and how they're the "real racist" LMOA, yet White women were and are the biggest benefactors of affirmative action programs, since the law was enacted.
If you are in denial about White Skin Privilege, I suggest you read two books: "White Privilege" by Paula S Rothenberg and "Two Nations: Black and White" by Andrew Hacker. They back up their assessment with irrefutable statistics. Recently, we all know about how subprime mortgages (and credit default swaps), were responsible for bringing down the global economy. Did you know, that in the United States, a much higher percentage of Blacks with good enough credit scores and incomes to qualify for regular fixed-rate mortgages, where steered towards subprime loans than White borrowers. This translates into 10 years of f'k'd up credit, no future equity to borrow for college tuitions or a small business and the possible loss of generational wealth, which historically is what real estate generates.
4)Black people overblow race issues, it happens to Whites too
Much like what Kelly Shore is doing, this thing were you state a few examples of police brutality or discrimination directed at Whites, is just a Trojan Horse. Nothing is absolute! Life is not mathematics. Whites get their azzes beat by the police sometimes, Whites get railroaded by the US justice system sometimes, White people get discriminated by employers sometimes (mostly White women based on gender discrimination or homosexual/transgendered employees). Historically and present day, the overwhelming percentage of these incidents fall at the feet of Black and Latino people. It's like when people try to promote the misguided comparison of Irish immigrants to Black chattel slavery. Irish immigrant men didn't have to endure a Anglo-White male come into their home once a week and rape their wife and daughter. Irish immigrants weren't beat until they would forego their names, religion and culture. To essentially to become a "blank slate", that could be reprogrammed to the whims of Whites. Irish immigrants weren't pitted against each other for 350+ years to foster control of that population. Sure, they were treated like shyt and 2nd class citizens, but it's didn't devolve to the same level. I hear this Kelly Shore-esque rhetoric on FOX News all the time. It's steeped in what mental health professionals call "cognitive dissonance". It's when you have to create a false reality or use remote examples to downplay or straight up wash away something you don't want to face up to. Most Whites will never admit that they have it better in America. They have to blame it on the behavior of Blacks. You know "If you people would just act right, you wouldn't have it so bad and people would treat you better". Well, the so called "model minority" Asians face their fair share of discrimination too, but many are so whitewashed and assimilated they internalize it. That's why you can go to a Vera Wang or Anna Sui fashion show and 80% of the models are White women. I've talked to some proud Asian brothers before and many are dismayed at this "White Male Worship" syndrome many of their Asian women have embraced. I see it in NYC to the point, where it's sickening and I'm not even Asian.
5)It's just a preference if someone doesn't want to date you.
I agree partially. However, when you don't date people in your OWN race, then that is a hot crock of shyt, even if you're White. They is some deep seated, pathological issue going on, for you to say your not attracted to people with the same features that you embody. Most people who deny this fact, will be disproven the longer you hear them talk. I've seen this with my own race (Blacks) countless times. They eventually go on some rant or throw the opposite gender Black under the bus, if you debate with them long enough. One thing I do notice, is that White men have a real issue when a Black or Asian women they are attracted to, tells them they don't date White men. I've seen this on Youtube a countless times. They seem to take issue with beautiful Black women, who embrace their racial culture and aren't on the Chilli from TLC shyt and proudly say they love and date Black men. White men always have to ask a Black chick they think is cute, if she's into White guys. Don't believe me, watch the latest episode of "What Chilli Wants". As much as she was diggin dude on the date, he still had to ask her that dumbazz question. Black men do ask that too at times, but it's primarily to
preempt the "your not my type" bullshyt. Let's be real here, many women and transsexuals feel Black men are beneath them. White men don't face that same issue, in reality it's the complete opposite. See, White men and White women have been elevated in society as the "ideal beauty standard". So, to reject them is seen as lunacy or reverse racism, because their arrogance tells them so. Sure, you might be into Black or Asian chicks, but let a Black men say he's not attracted to Maria Sharapova or Pamela Anderson (in her prime) and may Whites will assume he must hate White people, as that's the only logical explanation in their small minds. Yet, Blacks hear the "Im not into Black men or women" all the time and we are just supposed to strike it up to a "preference". It's hypocrisy! I actually had a White girl call me a "bigot" in a club, when I didn't want to dance with her. If a White guy would have rebuffed a Black chick, a different response is expected. Most Whites, if honest, will tell you most Whites feel deep down, that your slumming if you date or marry an African-American, unless they are extremely wealthy, accomplished or famous (or all 3), which negates the "niggerdom" quoting Dave Chappelle.
6) Slavery ended 400 years ago, yet these Blacks keep dwelling on it.
Well, Slavery actually was abolished around 1865 and Jim Crow took it's place until the late 1960's. Why was their a Civil Rights movement and a Rosa Parks, Malcolm X or Dr. Martin Luther King, if the playing field was leveled 400 years ago (which is 1610, see how asining that sounds)? Blacks really didn't get a fair shot in the American game until 1970, so that's 40 years people! That's not very long. They're many HA members like TS Lisa, who are over 40 and don't consider themselves old. I'm 36 and I don't feel old at all. To the White disbelievers listen to this analogy, imagine that you and your siblings grew up in abject poverty, in a single family home and went to the schools in the bad part of town. You still studied hard and stayed out of trouble, but you had to struggle and move around a lot. Maybe, even had a mother who abused drugs or alcohol to make matters worse. Now you had a classmate who's family were the wealthiest in your town and he/she and their siblings had every advantage afforded to them. Fast forward to adulthood, that same classmate stays talking shyt and belittling you and your family, saying you never had what it took to cut it. Maybe, you had one sibling who did well in a business venture, so they hold that one sibling over your head, as proof that you should be at their level, because your not, you're just a loser. This is the same flawed, naive logic I hear from most Whites, when talking about the achievement and economic divide between Blacks and Whites. I also hear Asians and Indians come to this country poor and outperform everyone, Whites included, so what is your excuse Black people? Sure, but they have a cultural sense of self, even those with White friends. There was a study done that followed Asian families. One family was close knit and taught their children their language, culture and customs and one didn't and let the kids assimilate completely. The families that didn't teach their culture, language and customs to their children, performed WAY worse in school and some of the kids got caught up in drugs, crime and other several destructive behavior, unlike the kids who had a strong sense of cultural identity. This is the problem with African-Americans. Malcolm X spoke about this incessantly, because that was his own person testimony. This also explains my #1. Why do African immigrants outperform almost all other groups educationally, when American born Blacks are at the bottom of spectrum? I had a HS classmate who had Nigerian parents and he always seemed ashame of his heritage and seemed to rebuff it. He's was and is, as dumb & ignorant as the rest of these wannabee thugs in the ghettoes of America. The ones I knew who were close-knit and primarily had African friends, excelled in school and stayed out of trouble.
Many I found on Facebook, are now lawyers, CPA's, engineers and doctors. Most Blacks have feel victim to the pathology of "Internalized Racism". When asked why Blacks use the N-word or discriminate against darker Blacks, I point this. Is you know what the "Stockholm Syndrome" is, then you have some idea of what I mean. You ever notice why women are so catty and untrusting of each other, same shyt. This is a Man's World and it had fostered that same internalization amongst females.
In closing, to Amberskyi you are right to date who you want. As long as your not being hateful or trying to be superior in the process, which seem to be some people's issue with IR dating, then you have NOBODY to apologize to. And speaking of apologizing, runningdownthatdream, you capped off your eloquent post saying "I hope I didn't offend anybody". Brotha, you don't have to hope anything! That was "REAL TALK" and if the small, uneducated minds are offended, screw em. Most have the I.Q of a light bulb, while trying to talk about what's wrong with the Black race. Black folks have to stop apologizing and parsing their words, when we are in the right, whether White sensibilities are offended or not. Go into any mainstream thread online about the Obamas and Whites rarely apologize for their comments, not matter how B.S, hypocritical or illogical they may be. Matter of fact, the only racism they seem to reprimand, is when some fedup Black person, gets down in the gutter with them and starts using slurs directed at Whites. I don't condone this, as it is wrong, hypocritical and just undercuts any intellectual argument made by you or any other Blacks on the topic of race. Yet, these brothas and sistas still get the tongue lashing, when about 50 Whites before them have used all kind of n1gg3ers, sp00ks, c00ns and monkeys in their postings and the forum was as quiet as a church mouse, in relation to their anti-Black bigotry.
Re: ambers reply to the racial thread and what was being said about her
Wow, people like you are exactly whats wrong with black people today. You want to believe so badly that racisim and prejudice is alive and well (its not) that you make up mountains of "proof" and ignore whats happening in this country. Arguing this point with people like is completely worthless, until you stop trying so hard to convince yourself its anywhere near that bad. smh
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