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    This article tries to explain why Trump has been elected to a second term as President. But while it reaches back into history the examples are not fair -England in the 17thc, and France in the 18thc were not democracies, neither was British America in 1776.

    So the question in 2024 is: why would people in a democracy fed up with the elites, vote for the most elitist, wealthiest people to rule them? No longer a govt of Millionaires out of touch with real people, but Billionaires who do not and never will care about John and Mary America. Bizarre.

    The deep historical forces that explain Trump’s win | US politics | The Guardian


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    Lastly, I not that there are a lot of brits & other foreigners here sounding off on MY country's elections & election process. Here's an idea, correct your own country's problems before belittling mine.
    Here's an idea. This is a public forum where anyone can comment on whatever interests them, and what happens in the US does affect the rest of the world. If you don't like that, feel free to piss off back to wherever you were hanging out before the election.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    This article tries to explain why Trump has been elected to a second term as President. But while it reaches back into history the examples are not fair -England in the 17thc, and France in the 18thc were not democracies, neither was British America in 1776.

    So the question in 2024 is: why would people in a democracy fed up with the elites, vote for the most elitist, wealthiest people to rule them? No longer a govt of Millionaires out of touch with real people, but Billionaires who do not and never will care about John and Mary America. Bizarre.

    The deep historical forces that explain Trump’s win | US politics | The Guardian
    There are MANY more far left radical billionaires than conservative ones, and you KNOW that. You're being Disingenuous as always.



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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    Here's an idea. This is a public forum where anyone can comment on whatever interests them, and what happens in the US does affect the rest of the world. If you don't like that, feel free to piss off back to wherever you were hanging out before the election.
    Glass houses & stone throwing come to mind. Maybe we should have let the germans and ruskies run all over the place back then.



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    There are MANY more far left radical billionaires than conservative ones, and you KNOW that. You're being Disingenuous as always.
    Is that why the American people rejected the Democrats? Are you suggesting Bill Gates is 'radical left'? I can't think of a single American billionaire who could fall into Trump's description, but honestly, do you really think there is any meaning in the words Trump uses to sneer at people he doesn't like? He has called the same people Marxists and Fascists, not knowing the meaning of one, and being closer to the other than some realize. Remember 'drain the swamp' and where that originated? You think Trump didn't know it was Mussolini's term?

    Go on, then, name those 'Radical Left Billionaires', and while you are doing so , maybe define 'Radical Left' or 'far left', because I don't think you know what these terms mean.


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    Well Gates for one, dumass. Oh yeah didn't his wife show him the door after he was found to be on epstein's lolita express???
    Bezos
    Oprah
    deniro
    Stone
    Baldwin
    & 95%+ of hollywood; they may not be billionaires, but multi millionaires yes



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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Well Gates for one, dumass. Oh yeah didn't his wife show him the door after he was found to be on epstein's lolita express???
    Bezos
    Oprah
    deniro
    Stone
    Baldwin
    & 95%+ of hollywood; they may not be billionaires, but multi millionaires yes
    I note you have not defined what you mean by 'left' be it radical, far, extreme. None of the names on your list are left wing radicals. I would say they are social liberals at best. But this is how the language of politics has been debased since the Clinton era.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    I note you have not defined what you mean by 'left' be it radical, far, extreme.
    Far left is anyone to the left of him, apparently.


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    Well Gates for one, dumass. Oh yeah didn't his wife show him the door after he was found to be on epstein's lolita express???
    The word is spelt 'dumbass', dumbass. Maybe they don't mention such things on Fox News, but you seem be overlooking the evidence that Trump and Epstein were besties.
    https://www.vox.com/culture/382550/j...ump-friendship


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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    The word is spelt 'dumbass', dumbass. Maybe they don't mention such things on Fox News, but you seem be overlooking the evidence that Trump and Epstein were besties.
    https://www.vox.com/culture/382550/j...ump-friendship
    Trump was never a "bestie". He allowed epsteins plane or helo to land somewhere once. and he wasn't a regulat on that plane - if he was ever on it at all unlike many others.

    I spell it dumass deliberately, because mist dumasses don't even notice it.



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