2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

[Paladin]

The thing that concerns me the most is how on earth could Liberal media completely miss the stance of the American people? (Regardless of how ugly).

So people that only followed Liberal news media outlets were hugely disappointed today because they weren't told the ugly truth about where Americans stand.

Lesson learned: Paint the true picture, no matter how ugly it is.

Here you go, just like the far left and lying assed media whack jobs. You are calling the majority of the American people ugly - and worse, and they do not like it.

I don't know where you live, but the inflation here has been a real PITA, and it has hurt most Americans, the neediest to begin with the MOST. They are done with it and so am I.

[Stavros]

US rate of Inflation since 2016
2016 - 1.3%
2017 - 2.1%
2018 - 2.4%
2019 - 1.8%
2020 - 1.2%
2021 - 4.7%
2022 - 8%
2023 - 4.1%
2024 - 2.4%

Obama dealt with the crash of 2008 at colossal cost to the taxpayer, but Covid was your pain in the ass. That'll be the pandemic through which a Million Americans lost their lives.

[Paladin]

Since when have America's Billionaires listened to the people? Most of them got rich from Govt contracts or tax payer subsidies, which is why Ben is right to argue for a systemic appraisal of the current situation in the US. It is a system -the Capitalist system- that gets people to pay twice or even more times for goods and services that they produce, in whose profits they do not share. Imagine the absurdity of people paying one of the richest corporations in the world -Exxon- to put gasoline in their car, after paying a subsidy to what, keep the company going? Like it's going to go bust without a tax payer subsidy?

In aggregate terms, the US economy is in better shape today than it was when Trump left office.

If prices are high and the cost of living hard, whose fault is it? Who decides the price of eggs, meat and bread? Kamala Harris?

Who will benefit from the Trump administration? The people? If you think that you are seem to have forgotten what happened last time.

Trump made more money playing golf in 4 years than Tiger Woods made in 20, and you can be sure he will be playing Golf more times than he talks peace with Israel, the Arabs, Russians and Ukrainians.

Who is the rising star of the new Trump era? Billionaire Elon Musk -when he selects his top team how many will be Millionaires and Billionaires?

When did any of these Billionaires pledge to give away their fortunes to finance education or health or any public good?

The USA is on the way to becoming a country of Oligarchs, for the Oligarchs, Trump the new Yeltsin. As for the People -who cares about them as long as they hand over their money to the men who matter, who don't even need it?

In capitalist US we pay LESS for fuel,than anywhere else except to the the middle east oil nations.

The US economy is severely bifurcated to the extent that the poorest segments are FAR worse off than they were 4 years ago.

It is / was the biden-harris war on us domestic fuel production that they starred on Day 1 in 2021 hat has caused the underlying cost of EVERYTHING to increase belong even the 40 year high inflation rates, so YES she / he DID "decide" to price of eggs, meat, bread, etc.

There are MANY more left wing billionaires that conservative ones, and I don't see any of them pledging their fortunes. In other words people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Paladin]

US rate of Inflation since 2016
2016 - 1.3%
2017 - 2.1%
2018 - 2.4%
2019 - 1.8%
2020 - 1.2%
2021 - 4.7%
2022 - 8%
2023 - 4.1%
2024 - 2.4%

Obama dealt with the crash of 2008 at colossal cost to the taxpayer, but Covid was your pain in the ass. That'll be the pandemic through which a Million Americans lost their lives.

And more perished in 2021 under biden than in 2020 even though there were TWO vaccines available before the end of 2020.

[Paladin]

On the bright side, gasoline dropped 21 cents per gallon in the 3 days after the election here.

[Stavros]

In capitalist US we pay LESS for fuel,than anywhere else except to the the middle east oil nations.

The US economy is severely bifurcated to the extent that the poorest segments are FAR worse off than they were 4 years ago.

It is / was the biden-harris war on us domestic fuel production that they starred on Day 1 in 2021 hat has caused the underlying cost of EVERYTHING to increase belong even the 40 year high inflation rates, so YES she / he DID "decide" to price of eggs, meat, bread, etc.

There are MANY more left wing billionaires that conservative ones, and I don't see any of them pledging their fortunes. In other words people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

"It is / was the biden-harris war on us domestic fuel production that they starred on Day 1 in 2021 hat has caused the underlying cost of EVERYTHING to increase belong even the 40 year high inflation rates, so YES she / he DID "decide" to price of eggs, meat, bread, etc.".

-the facts say otherwise-

"“The Biden administration’s policies have been devastating for our federal lands,” House Natural Resources Chair Bruce Westerman (R-Ark.) said in a statement. Whether it’s a new Bureau of Land Management rule “that fundamentally threatens the western way of life, or the decision to lock up enormous deposits of increasingly scarce minerals, it’s clear Biden and his bureaucrats have no interest in properly stewarding our federal lands.”

But that narrative conflicts with drilling data. Oil production has soared on public lands under Biden, growing by roughly 530,000 barrels a day since 2020. The country is currently producing more oil every year than any country in history, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration."
What Biden’s oil record means for the industry’s future - E&E News by POLITICO

Try this, with my emphasis in Bold

"The United States is producing more oil and natural gas today than ever before, and far more than any other country. So, what roles did the Trump-Pence and Biden-Harris administrations play in this surge?
The answer might surprise you, given the way each has talked publicly about fossil fuels: former President Donald Trump embracing them, and President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris focusing on reducing fossil fuel use to fight climate change.
Under each of the three most recent presidencies, Republican and Democratic alike, U.S. oil and gas production was higher at the end of the administration’s term than at the beginning.
That production has both pros and cons. Together, oil and gas account for nearly three-quarters of U.S. energy consumption. Producing oil and gas in the U.S. provides energy security, and high production generally keeps prices down. Burning oil and gas, however, releases carbon dioxide into the air, contributing to climate change. And natural gas is mostly methane – another potent greenhouse gas.".
Under both Trump and Biden-Harris, US oil and gas production surged to record highs, despite very different energy goals

[Stavros]

And more perished in 2021 under biden than in 2020 even though there were TWO vaccines available before the end of 2020.

But here is a more accurate view of the period in question-

"Spencer Fox, associate director of the University of Texas COVID-19 Modeling Consortium, said the first thing to consider when it comes to looking at 2020 and 2021 pandemic statistics is that 2020 is a ten-month period while 2021 is a full pandemic year. Much of the COVID-19 deaths happened March 2020 and onward; only 26 deaths involving COVID-19 were recorded for January and February 2020.
Additionally, the U.S. experienced a surge in cases starting winter 2020 near the end of that year, Fox said. Many people died from those 2020 infections in early 2021, and that was well before vaccines were widely available. So while many of the infections in that wave happened in 2020, they were part of the 2021 mortality statistics.
There was also a delta variant surge in summer 2021, after vaccines had become widely available to the public.
"What we've seen basically since that surge is really just continued spread," Fox said, noting that the delta and omicron variants surprised a lot of people.
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"But I think even though vaccines were widely available, I think a lot of the mortality that happened over the summer – during that major Delta surge – was happening on unvaccinated individuals," Fox said.
Fox noted that even though many people were vaccinated, vaccination rates were low. "There was plenty kind of fuel for the COVID virus to spread on," Fox said.".
Fact-check: Did more people die from COVID-19 in 2021 than in 2020?

Did more people die because they were not vaccinated in spite of vaccines being available?

[Stavros]

This Forbes article explains why grocery prices are so high in the US, thus

"Grocery prices are 30% higher than four years ago. In the wake of World War II, the grocery industry was born to ensure a cheap, convenient and abundant food supply. Decades later, the same industry leveraged pandemic-related supply chain crises to raise prices and reap enormous profits, all while selling less food. Sustained higher prices are not only a burden on consumer budgets, but are also an ongoing policy failure by the Biden Administration."
Why Your Groceries Are Still So Expensive

And argues that whereas the Govt in France forced prices down, the Biden Administration was not aggressive in the same way. Can you imagine that Trump is going to go after his Billionaire chums who have the grocery market tucked into their thighs to open their legs and give the people a better shot? If Biden had done it, Trump would be screaming COMMUNIST! If he does get his mates to lower their prices, will that be GOVT DIKTAT or even...er...COMMUNISM!? Either way Trump does not believe in markets anyway, so maybe he will do something. Watch that space.

[filghy2]

On the bright side, gasoline dropped 21 cents per gallon in the 3 days after the election here.

Let me guess: everything good that happens from here will be due to Trump, but everything bad will be somebody else's fault or didn't happen?

I see you are catching up on your trolling after a long break. Don't forget your advice above.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

[filghy2]

The US economy is severely bifurcated to the extent that the poorest segments are FAR worse off than they were 4 years ago.

What exactly is Trump going to do to fix that? As I recall, the main legislative achievement last time was a massive tax cut for rich people. They also went within one vote of abolishing Obamacare, which would have left millions without health cover. It looks like they are planning more of the same this time.

While you are at it, can you explain how Trump is going to reduce inflation by increasing import tariffs, increasing the deficit though tax cuts, deporting a big chunk of the labour force and reducing the independence of the Federal Reserve?