Komm, Kamala, Komm and Save the Nation!

[blackchubby38]

So what does it actually mean in practice that you register as an Independent? Does it matter only for whether you can vote in primaries?

When I first registered as an Independent (once again when I was 18 in 1992), I didn't realized that I wouldn't be able to vote in the primaries. I just never bother to change it as I got older.

It was only when I first went to vote in a NYC mayoral primary and showed them my voter registration card, did I find out that I wasn't going to be able to vote.

[blackchubby38]

When I first registered as an Independent (once again when I was 18 in 1992), I didn't realized that I wouldn't be able to vote in the primaries. I just never bother to change it as I got older.

It was only when I first went to vote in a NYC mayoral primary and showed them my voter registration card, did I find out that I wasn't going to be able to vote.

Although, now that I think about it, I may have had to re-register in for the 2008 general election. So that would have been the second time that I registered as an Independent.

[filghy2]

I also never explicitly said he should drop out of the race after the debate performance. Now, should he have decided to be one term President. That's a different story. Here is a post that I made in June.

Yes, but you wrote that post when it looked like Biden was determined to stay in. Obviously, he was persuaded to change his mind and the change was achieved without a civil war. Are you saying that you wish he was still the candidate now?

[MrFanti]

Instead, the Democrats were so concerned about Trump being reelected, that they convinced themselves that despite Biden's obvious flaws, he was the only one who would beat Trump again. But the one thing that they, the media, and many Democratic voters have not realized (or they have and just don't want to admit it) is that if it wasn't for the pandemic, there is a very good chance Trump would have won back in 2020.

You are SPOT-ON here!
The Democrats had their heads so far buried in the sand that they either were oblivious to Biden's flaws, or thought the American people were too stupid too see the flaws in Biden....

And the Trump debate with Biden was actually a blessing for the Democrats as it gave the Democrats a "Biden Exit Strategy".......

[blackchubby38]

Yes, but you wrote that post when it looked like Biden was determined to stay in. Obviously, he was persuaded to change his mind and the change was achieved without a civil war. Are you saying that you wish he was still the candidate now?

I have thought about it and the best way I can answer this question is to say yes and no.

No.- Given how grueling this campaign has been, I hate to think how Biden would have been doing both physically and mentally at this stage of the game. Not to mention if there had been two more debates as previously planned, how he would have performed in them.

I'm also not sure if he would have been able to galvanize the base like Kamala did at the DNC. I saw an interesting stat the other day about Biden's approval in his third year in office compared to other U.S. presidents. It wasn't good.


Yes.- Yet, there is a small part of me that believes that if the Democrats are going to lose next Tuesday, they should have at least went down with the guy who brought them to victory 4 years ago. Because if Kamala does lose, there are going to be a lot of "what ifs", postmortems on what happened, and even a bit of "I told you so" from certain people. For those who believe that the media played a part in forcing Biden out, there is going to more mistrust from Democrats toward them.

Finally, looking back on 2024, I think people will begin to ask the biggest question of them all. Why exactly was the first Presidential debate held in the middle of June in the first place.

[Paladin]

You are SPOT-ON here!
The Democrats had their heads so far buried in the sand that they either were oblivious to Biden's flaws, or thought the American people were too stupid too see the flaws in Biden....

And the Trump debate with Biden was actually a blessing for the Democrats as it gave the Democrats a "Biden Exit Strategy".......

They lied and tried to hide biden's mental incompetence for more about two years. but the people were not to be fooled...

[filghy2]

They lied and tried to hide biden's mental incompetence for more about two years. but the people were not to be fooled...

It will be interesting to see what you have to say when Trump goes the same way

[Paladin]

It will be interesting to see what you have to say when Trump goes the same way

Hmmmmm, You ADMIT it about the senile, feckless foppish dolt biden?

I'll call Trump out, IF it ever happens to him.

[Paladin]

Here's how state primaries work - sort of.

A state can have either an open or a closed primary. MA, where I first lived is an open primary state, meaning that a registered voter of any party could vote in either party primary (only one!). FL where I am now is a closed party state, meaning you have to be registered to a party to vote in that party's primary. NY, which I lived in for a few years in between WAS open but binding, meaning that if you were independent or no party affiliation, you could vote in Either party primary, but by doing so you at that point joined that party. I remember this because when I voted in a primary in NY, they provided me with a small form, that stated "having joined the xxx party, I hereby elect to leave said party" or something to that effect. NY might have changed that. I left 30 years ago and won't return except to drive through it to get to New England, if I ever do that again.