2024 USA Election: Wishin' and Hopin'

[filghy2]

Yes, Biden is telling them they have no one else to to turn to and that they need to fall in line.

Basically, it's a game of chicken where Biden has the advantage because everyone knows that if they put public pressure on him and he still refuses to go it will make things even worse.

[filghy2]

*-If you don’t count things like immigration and inflation.

Ignoring the age problem and deciding to run again has been the major misjudgement, but I think failing to take those two issues seriously enough were also bad misjudgements. I know Trump sabotaged the border deal, but it was stupid to wait until the election year to act. They were also warned at the time that the stimulus was too big.

The consistent pattern has been that rather than recognise problems and change course to deal with them, they have tried to dismiss the issue.

It was Dean Phillips who ran against Biden, not Doug Jones.

[KnightHawk 2.0]

I recommend the interview Christian Amanpour had with Heather Cox which I posted earlier today. Cox points out that the only time something similar happened in recent memory (well, mine at least!) was when LBJ in 1968 declined to run in November, and thew the Democrat Party into chaos, with Hubert Humphrey becoming their candidate and losing to Nixon. I recall the chaotic scenes in Chicago, aggravated by protests over the Vietnam War, and the divisions within the Democrats who at that time in the 1960s were discovering 'sectional' politics like it was a new addiction, but with the impression that the party was so divided against itself it was unfit for office, something that persisted to scuttle George McGovern's chances in 1972 -and note too that when the Republicans lost power, it was due to their own behaviour not some external shock.

Everything that happened in the 1960s -'race riots', Martin Luther King, alive in 1963, dead in 1968, Gay Liberation, Feminism, the Voter Registration and Rights Acts, and the humiliation of Nixon between 1973-74 became the foundations of the 'fightback' from the Republican Party, and each time it has met a setback, it has re-doubled its efforts and radicalized its policy agenda so that today the TEA Party 'radicals' look pathetic compared to Trump and Project 2025.

Often in politics, power is lost by the people who have it because of their own failures, not through some external cause -if Biden loses in November, you can't blame it on a pathological liar, convicted criminal and puppet of the autocrats -it will be the Democrats own fault.

Add to that a media that has enabled Trump to bluff his way through blatant crime and contempt for the US political system, and the tragic complicity of the Supreme Court, and the US is truly in peril, the damage that Trump can cause of a kind that will cost a generation of Americans some of the fundamental freedoms that evidently were taken for granted, if not from the 1960s then since 1776.

I saw the interview of Historian Heather Cox Richardson that she did with Christian Amanpour that you posted earlier,it was very informative and she made alot of good points. Donald Trump and the people at Project 2025 vision fthe United States is very dark and downright terrifying. Agree: that often in politics power is lost by the people who have it due to their own failures,that is the why the Democrats need to do everything they can over the next four months to things around. And also agree the news media has enabled Donald Trump to bluff his way through despicable crimes and contempt for the US Political System,and US Supreme Court has also helped him by giving him absolutely immunity to do whatever he wants. And the United States and Democracy is in peril,from the damage Donald Trump can cause that will cost a generation of Americans the fundamental freedoms that were taken for granted.

[filghy2]

So, here we are now and barring some unforeseen circumstances, the Democrats are stuck with Biden.

Or they could pray for divine intervention.
“If the Lord Almighty came down and said, ‘Joe, get out of the race,’ I’d get out of the race,” Biden said. “The Lord Almighty’s not coming down.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...rview-00166691

[Stavros]

People who believe in God might want to explain the creation of Volcanoes, Donald Trump and Malaria. On that basis, I don't think God's judgment is valid.

Looks like this issue is, at it were, dead and buried, unless....

[Stavros]

The good reasons for Harris, without explaining how. One does point out that were Biden to drop out and Newsom win the Convention Harris would have to re-register as a resident of Washington DC.

Nothing wrong with the arguments, it is the process that is at fault -or as said before, Biden wins but doesn't stay the course and Harris becomes President when he can no longer do the job.

Would Trump agree to a public 'debate' with Harris? Should she tempt him into one?

Opinion: It’s Time to Get Used to the Idea of President Kamala Harris (yahoo.com)

[KnightHawk 2.0]

Prominent Democrats calling for President Joe Biden to step aside,are getting louder everyday. And his performance in the sitdown with ABC News really didn't do anything to squash those calls. https://www.axios.com/2024/07/06/lis...-2024-campaign

[Stavros]

And another one -in the last week I have seen more positive articles on Kamala Harris than I have seen in four years. Some feeding going on, methinks (setting aside the relentlessly negative articles on Harris and Biden in the Telegraph).

What would a Harris candidacy mean for the elusive independent woman voter? | US politics | The Guardian

[KnightHawk 2.0]

It will be interesting too see over the next two weeks,how many more Democrats from Congress and the Senate will be calling for their leader President Joe Biden to step aside,and let someone else run at the top of the ticket. And how many will be standing with and telling him to stay in the race,and will it cause a rift in the Democratic Party?.And both sides eventually settling their differences and coming together and support their nominee,and helping him defeat Donald Trump and his enablers in November.

[Fitzcarraldo]

The media will not stop piling on until Biden leaves the race.

Meanwhile, they have no qualms about Trump being the Republican candidate.