Covid-19 Politics

[Nick Danger]

Honestly it sounds like you want to beat up some hipster who doesn't know how to fight back. It could just be a guy whose wife has cancer or who himself has lupus who wants you to be considerate. Yeah, who needs New York, LA, or San Francisco when you have St. George Utah. What would this country do without that hub of economic activity and culture?

The real problem is that people from New York, L.A., and San Francisco won't stop moving to St. George, Bronco. Matter of fact, you'd be amazed who lives there. Several well-known celebrities. A lot of retired pro athletes. Taylor Swift owns a house in St. George; and she's also a member of my gym though I've never seen here there. Wilford Brimley (of "diabeetus" and Quaker Oats fame) lived a few houses down from me until he died a couple years ago. I could drop a few more names.

There's no real reason to ever leave St. George, it's one of the most beautiful places in the world. Unfortunately its population is outgrowing its infrastructure because people won't just stay the fuck away like we want them to. Hell, I could sell my St. George house for 5 times what I paid for it. If I listed it right now I'd have a cash offer by lunchtime, the city is at 99% occupancy.

Beating up a lupus grandmother in a wheelchair IS on my bucket list, Bronco, but I doubt I'd follow through if the opportunity arose. Since you guys are so fascinated with me saying I might clock me a mask nazi, I've given the matter more thought and traced my line of reasoning. There have only been a couple of times people I didn't know have approached me about wearing a mask out of the blue. Both times it was women. I've seen a few times in the news about people losing their shit over mask nazis and issuing a beatdown, and I've thought, "Hmm, good, that needs to happen." Then of course as time has worn on I've become more and more frustrated over the Covid garbage, and then not too long ago I saw a story about some lady who stabbed another lady in the neck over it. Normally my reaction to that would have been negative but this time, I thought, "YES! Fucking perfect! More of this!"

For me it would have to be semi-spontaneous. Like, my thinking now is that this is the sort of thing I'd like to be known as having done, so I want to do it. But also, I'm a full-grown man, and pretty strong. So it'd be no good if it was a female mask nazi obviously, and no good if it was some scrawny punk. What I'm looking for is another full-grown man to do it. So if I'm confronted by a full-grown man insisting I put on a mask in a public place with no mask rule, I'm going to get aggravated, I'm going to have my instinctive reaction to not inflict violence on people, and then I'm going to have to consciously think, "Nope, bad timing for you, welcome to my nightmare, asshole." One shot should do it, it will essentially be a sucker punch. Then I'll stand there and wait for the police.

I mean, I'm not sure how you dipshits expected all this to work out in the end, did you think the politicians and the media were going to just set us free? Covid is their fucking bread and butter now, Bronco, they're never going to stop. But there's a limit to how long free-minded people are going to tolerate this nonsense. Some of us are there, and some of us are just almost there.

It's literally a common cold now, so obviously the best thing to happen would be a restoration of common sense, then we could all get on with our lives. Doesn't seem like that's going to work out, though, does it Bronco. Gonna take a little highly-publicized violence against some of the more egregious covidiots to get the message across, ain't it. Well, I'm willing to do my part if the right guy shows up at the wrong time with the wrong request. Probably happen while I'm in Vegas if it happens.

[filghy2]

Man, you don’t even know, Flighty. My problem is I’m spoiled. I spend almost all my time in St. George or a small town you’ve never heard of just outside of Nashville. Either place, we mock Covid rules.

So when I venture out into Liberal Land it’s always culture shock.

Then you are going to have the same experience in any developed country. I hate to break it to you, but red-state America is the oddity.

[filghy2]

Yeah, who needs New York, LA, or San Francisco when you have St. George Utah. What would this country do without that hub of economic activity and culture?

I'm sure they have both kinds of music there - country and western.

[filghy2]

It's literally a common cold now, so obviously the best thing to happen would be a restoration of common sense, then we could all get on with our lives.

How exactly is your life being impeded, other than by the terribly onerous requirement to wear a mask on occasion?

[filghy2]

PS: Can you also share your source on 1600 American deaths from the common cold each day?

[broncofan]

I'm sure they have both kinds of music there - country and western.

Years ago a friend took me to a "redneck bar" in Northern Florida, which is what even the bar owners called it. Some good looking women there but I was standing by the dance floor and the dj calls out that they are gonna do the "gator dance". Now when I looked it up recently they say it is people crawling like an alligator but honestly it was men dressed like cowboys who got on their bellies and rhythmically humped the floor while the women hooted and hollered at whose humping they liked best. I was a college kid wearing jeans and a tshirt so I wasn't looking to judge what's high culture or low culture but I swear I never felt so bad for humanity.

By the time this is over I'm gonna share as many anecdotes as Nick. Nick, I grew up in a resort town that had golf courses, retirees, and the third homes of celebrities. It didn't make the town any place I wanted to live when I grew up.

I got nothing except to reiterate filghy's points here. Address his questions about the cold, about the burdens of mask wearing....there's something very cold and primitive and cavalier about the Republican approach to aging and disease and vulnerability that DOES look related to fascism.

[Nick Danger]

Years ago a friend took me to a "redneck bar" in Northern Florida, which is what even the bar owners called it. Some good looking women there but I was standing by the dance floor and the dj calls out that they are gonna do the "gator dance". Now when I looked it up recently they say it is people crawling like an alligator but honestly it was men dressed like cowboys who got on their bellies and rhythmically humped the floor while the women hooted and hollered at whose humping they liked best. I was a college kid wearing jeans and a tshirt so I wasn't looking to judge what's high culture or low culture but I swear I never felt so bad for humanity.

By the time this is over I'm gonna share as many anecdotes as Nick. Nick, I grew up in a resort town that had golf courses, retirees, and the third homes of celebrities. It didn't make the town any place I wanted to live when I grew up.

I got nothing except to reiterate filghy's points here. Address his questions about the cold, about the burdens of mask wearing....there's something very cold and primitive and cavalier about the Republican approach to aging and disease and vulnerability that DOES look related to fascism.

Well, Bronco, I grew up all up and down the east coast, big cities, small towns, and all points in between. I lived in 17 different cities in 10 different states before 6th grade, and as an adult I've lived in at least as many, which may go a long way toward explaining why I approach most human relationships as temporary. In the end, I found some peace in St. George. It might surprise you to find out that I don't golf. I mean, I have. And sometimes I will if I am coerced into it. But I find it quite tedious and I'm bad at it and I never cared enough to put the effort in to become competent. I think it was Mark Twain who said "Golf is a good walk spoiled."

Up until about 5 years ago St. George had one bar, and it was called "The One And Only." I think there's a picture of it on the internet...



Then another bar opened called "About Time." And not longer after that, the St. George City Council went waaaaaaaay out on a limb and issued TWO MORE BAR LICENSES. So now there are four. Two of them feature Country. Two of them feature Western. That's a joke actually, they have jukeboxes and classic rock is the best thing to play if you don't want hard stares from the rest of the clientele. If you're a hot girl you can play whatever the fuck you want.

Then you are going to have the same experience in any developed country. I hate to break it to you, but red-state America is the oddity.

As intelligent as you are, Flighty, you sincerely have no idea what you are witnessing right now, do you. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why huge corporations support the Democratic Party in general and the progressive agenda in particular? I mean, why the flippity fuck would a guy like Jeff Bezos buy the Washington Post and start lying out his ass to promote some of the most ridiculous politics in history - a means to which the end can only be empowering a political party that wants to tax you more? BARRIER TO ENTRY, Flighty, barrier to fucking entry.

Pretend you're Bezos. You've made it, you're on top of the world, no one can touch you. Except the free market of course. What if some other young hotshot starts up his own operation and does it better? Eh, it could happen. What if a dozen young hotshots pick up that ball and run with it. They all meet with varying levels of success but the big picture is that they are ALL cutting into YOUR market share. Unless, of course, there's a political party in power that specializes in over-regulating the hell out of big business.

The barrier to entry for big business is much, much higher under a Democratic regime than it is under a Republican regime. The pleb play is to support the Republicans - so your taxes will be lower, regulations easier, profits higher. But the kingpin play is to support the hell out of the Democrats. Because as long as the Democrats are in power, there will never be another Amazon. The Democrats will hamstring all your potential competition with environmental regulations, racial quotas, higher taxes, sensitivity training, and so on and on - all the things Democrats do to make business hard. Doesn't affect you, you're already there, you can contend. But Johnny Startup is just...fucked.

That's why big business is on-board with cancel culture. That's why Big Tech censors conservative views. That's why the corporate-owned liberal media is so full of absolute horseshit. They want to make business hard. For everyone else. They've got the money to plow right through those barriers.

All you're witnessing, Flighty, when you see a world in decline, AKA a world full of liberal shitholes, is the end result of corporate greed. They KNOW liberalism is untenable and unsustainable. They don't care. They don't care if you get tossed in a wood-chipper. Or die in the streets. Liberalism is the formula for unchecked corporate evil and monopolistic dominance. IT'S A SCAM. And you fell for it, Flighty.

Don't worry, though. We conservatives will save you.

How exactly is your life being impeded, other than by the terribly onerous requirement to wear a mask on occasion?

Does it matter, Flighty? Because whatever nightmare they're putting us through today, it's going to be different tomorrow. Can you say with any confidence whatsoever that the whole planet won't be locked down a week from now? Nope. So how the fuck are we supposed to get on with our lives while the governments of the world - as usual following the USA's lead - continue to move the goalposts day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month, YEAR-TO-FUCKING-YEAR? They should not have this power. Only absolute NPC's would give it to them. Say hello to a planet full of NPC's.

Don't worry, though. We conservatives will save you.

PS: Can you also share your source on 1600 American deaths from the common cold each day?

Of course I can share the fucking source. You know the rules. So do I. https://www.thisworldthesedays.com/c...mmoncold1.html

[natina]

Another QAnon anti-vaxxer has died of COVID-19. Even from her hospital bed, she swore it was a hoax

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/...ed-of-COVID-19

www.sorryantivaxxers.com

[filghy2]

As intelligent as you are, Flighty, you sincerely have no idea what you are witnessing right now, do you. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why huge corporations support the Democratic Party in general and the progressive agenda in particular?

Yet another long-winded answer that completely failed to address the point. You are like a politician, addressing the point you want to make rather than the one that was put to you.

FYI, rich folks are clearly more likely to vote Republican. Voters with incomes over $100,000 went for Trump 54:42 in the last election. You are conveniently forgetting all the filthy rich businessmen who support Trump, eg the Murdochs, the Koch brothers, the Mercers.
https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/exi...sults-analysis

Here's the point that you obviously have no answer to. If your views are just common sense and it's only rich liberals distorting things, then how come most people in the rest of the world don't agree with you? If the US is the exception then which is more likely - the US is weird or that all those other countries are weird? It can't be a coincidence that only in the US is half the population being fed a steady diet of lies by right-wing media.

You are like a fascinating anthropological study to me because we don't have many lunatics like you in Australia (eg 95% of adults here are vaccinated). Or maybe it's like discovering an alternative universe where everything is the opposite of the normal universe.

[filghy2]

The barrier to entry for big business is much, much higher under a Democratic regime than it is under a Republican regime.

In that case it should be easy for you to show evidence that business formation is much lower under Democrat regimes. Here, I'll even help you out by giving you the data source. https://www.census.gov/econ/bfs/index.html

Your ability to come up with lengthy theories based on absolutely nothing but half-arsed selective reasoning is nothing short of amazing.