Thought for the Day

[Nick Danger]

I am a fan of the character Nick Danger, though more for entertainment than for educational purposes. How closely that character is related to the real person doing the typing I do not know - I'm sure there is some degree of deliberate exaggeration. If I didn't know already that the USA is full of crazy people I would have assumed you were just pulling our legs for fun.

And that's the extent to which you're brainwashed, Flighty. I've offered you nothing but common sense conservatism, and you view that as so nonsensical that it must be a joke.

I do exaggerate, we know this. But there's a grain of truth in everything I say.

[broncofan]

And that's the extent to which you're brainwashed, Flighty. I've offered you nothing but common sense conservatism, and you view that as so nonsensical that it must be a joke.

I do exaggerate, we know this. But there's a grain of truth in everything I say.

Principled conservative ideas Nick. Your exaggerations are ways of saying anything goes when your guy does it. It is tearing this country apart. But where are the conservative ideas?

Surely the core of conservatism isn't
1. denying the consensus among epidemiologists about public health measures in a pandemic
2. stoking violent insurrection and then blaming antifa for it
3. making up claims of election fraud to threaten the peaceful transition of power
4. accusing the media of being biased when it reports these outrages

Your movement has descended into a pit of self-pity, self-delusion, and conspiracism. Come back to planet earth.

[tslvr]

This is ingenious. Biden made your gas prices go up in the month since his inauguration. BTW you mean 1/19/2021. But on that date my local cvs sold toothpaste for 3.59. Today it is selling for 3.29 because Biden negotiated with the fluoride wholesalers.

I did not say Biden made the gas prices go up, I was just posting my thought for the day which was gas has changed 73 cents in a month and I'm wondering why? My thought for today is, I wonder why 30 democratic members of congress are asking the president to give up total control of the nuclear football, which I believe is against the constitution.

[Nick Danger]

Principled conservative ideas Nick. Your exaggerations are ways of saying anything goes when your guy does it. It is tearing this country apart. But where are the conservative ideas?

Surely the core of conservatism isn't
1. denying the consensus among epidemiologists about public health measures in a pandemic
2. stoking violent insurrection and then blaming antifa for it
3. making up claims of election fraud to threaten the peaceful transition of power
4. accusing the media of being biased when it reports these outrages

Your movement has descended into a pit of self-pity, self-delusion, and conspiracism. Come back to planet earth.

The core of conservatism, the core of conservatism... It's definitely not Trumpism, Trumpism is its own thing that's more about America First than anything else.

I'll tell you how I see conservatism. Others might see it differently but to me it's strictly economic in nature. However much I might disagree with some non-economic conservative policies, or agree with some liberal morality policies, liberal fiscal policy is so ridiculous to me that I only really have one option politically.

Here are, to me, the 3 over-simplified conservative fiscal principles:

1. No charity. Get a job, start a business, run for office, or jump off a cliff, those are the four true outcomes - people passing on the first 3 options but not taking the 4th is the reason we still have Democrats. Obviously some people become unable to work, or are born unable to work. Those are the exceptions, society has an obligation there. But if you're able-bodied, you ain't getting shit from the government. Ass, grass, or gas, no one rides for free.

2. The least possible government regulation of business. Let the market decide. If people feel so strongly about the environment, they should let their checkbook do the talking. Nobody is holding anyone at gunpoint and forcing them to buy gas from Exxon, or from anyone for that matter. You think we're killing the planet with emissions, fine. Walk. You believe in LGBTQ rights, don't patronize businesses that don't. You believe small business is important, keep your fat, flabby, wrinkled ass out of Walmart. Don't like the way Harvey Weinstein treats women? Don't go see his movies. If everyone simply let their purchasing power speak for them, all our human rights and environmental issues would automatically adjust themselves to the satisfaction of the majority.

3. Low taxes on the wealthy. Give the job creators and innovators a good reason to stay solidly right here in the USA.

That's it. It's not complicated, it's parenting. Conservatives are the ones who stop you from eating all the cookies and feeding the brussel sprouts to the dog. Conservatives are the ones who send you to bed even though Real Housewives of West Virginia is coming on. Conservatives are the ones who spank you for shitty grades.

You don't like it. But it's good for you.

[filghy2]

I've offered you nothing but common sense conservatism.

I do exaggerate, we know this.

Conspiracy theories and lurid Chicken Little predictions must be common sense conservatism then. Or was that another of your exaggerations?

[filghy2]

2. The least possible government regulation of business. Let the market decide. If people feel so strongly about the environment, they should let their checkbook do the talking. Nobody is holding anyone at gunpoint and forcing them to buy gas from Exxon, or from anyone for that matter. You think we're killing the planet with emissions, fine. Walk. You believe in LGBTQ rights, don't patronize businesses that don't. You believe small business is important, keep your fat, flabby, wrinkled ass out of Walmart. Don't like the way Harvey Weinstein treats women? Don't go see his movies. If everyone simply let their purchasing power speak for them, all our human rights and environmental issues would automatically adjust themselves to the satisfaction of the majority.

Your next economics lesson. You're about 100 years out of date this time. Your economic ideas are just a simplistic parody of economics that bears no relationship to the real world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality

[Nick Danger]

Your next economics lesson. You're about 100 years out of date this time. Your economic ideas are just a simplistic parody of economics that bears no relationship to the real world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality

I knew it. You ARE Tipper Gore.

Also, make your damn argument, Flighty, IF you have one. I'm not gonna spend half my night reading your links. You don't see me saying, "My argument is this guy's essay, go read it and then argue back at me." For fuck's sake.

[filghy2]

Also, make your damn argument, Flighty, IF you have one. I'm not gonna spend half my night reading your links. You don't see me saying, "My argument is this guy's essay, go read it and then argue back at me." For fuck's sake.

You can't be bothered reading links yet you post several long diatribes every day that I assume you expect somebody to read. Wordiness seems to be the one trait you have in common with Stavros.

To put it simply, people who don't give a shit about the environment, etc impose costs on the rest. That's like your neighbour throwing trash over the fence into your yard. They also get to free-ride because they get some of the benefit from the people who do care without paying any of the costs. That's called market failure. Leaving it to the market to fix market failure is a non sequitur.

[filghy2]

I did not say Biden made the gas prices go up, I was just posting my thought for the day which was gas has changed 73 cents in a month and I'm wondering why?

Probably because the price of crude oil has been rising due to increased demand. It's not likely you will find a better answer on this forum than you would by just googling.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/oil...rs-51614254401

[Nick Danger]

You can't be bothered reading links yet you post several long diatribes every day that I assume you expect somebody to read. Wordiness seems to be the one trait you have in common with Stavros.

You can see, right Flighty? I mean, when you see one of my posts, you can see how long it is before you even start reading it, yes? So it is certainly your choice whether to read a long post or not. What I've noticed about your posts is that they've gotten shorter and shorter over the past few days until we're now at the point where you're just posting links. I understand. Like Steve Martin once said, "Some people have a way with words, and other people just not have way."

To put it simply, people who don't give a shit about the environment, etc impose costs on the rest. That's like your neighbour throwing trash over the fence into your yard. They also get to free-ride because they get some of the benefit from the people who do care without paying any of the costs. That's called market failure. Leaving it to the market to fix market failure is a non sequitur.

Yep, that's the classic argument for the Nanny State all right, Tipper.

The conservative solution to your garbage analogy there would be that the individual who was getting dumped on address the problem with the neighbor himself. But yeah, fixing your own problems is hard.