Trannies for Trump

[filghy2]

We may have just voted in our first President whose campaign was assisted by Russia no matter who we elected in 2016.

I missed this before - hard to keep up with all of your nonsense claims.

First , why would the Russians want to help both sides? Isn't the whole point of meddling in an election to try to influence the outcome one way or the other?

Second, why would the Russians try to help the Democrats when Putin had clearly expressed antipathy toward Hillary Clinton on account of things she did when she was Secretary of State?

Third, you are ignoring two obvious facts, which have no equivalent on the other side. One is the unusual pattern of linkages between Trump and his associates and Russians. The other is the fact that Trump has conspicuously gone out of his way to avoid any criticism of Russia and to argue it's case (eg at the recent G7 meeting).

[Gillian]

Putting the merits and demerits of a Trump victory to one side for the moment, can we agree he's not exactly enhancing the international reputation of the US. The world's media are having a field day ...

[Stavros]

Anyway, no Stavros, it's not hard, it's not expensive, it's just something you have to do as an American. You don't just "give up" on obtaining an ID, you get one. It's the first step to practically everything else you might want to do here.

Ok, Nick, it is not hard -for you; it is not expensive -for you. But it might be for someone else who is not as resourceful as you, or as self-confident. For someone making the transition from Michael to Michaela (or Michaela to Michael) visiting any State or Federal office can be a traumatic experience, and if the clerk behind the desk has been instructed to create a 'hostile environment' in the office then it is easy to understand why so many people don't bother. As I suggested, scrap ID cards, and create another system, and no, I don't mean ID chips inserted into your arm.

[Stavros]

Putting the merits and demerits of a Trump victory to one side for the moment, can we agree he's not exactly enhancing the international reputation of the US. The world's media are having a field day ...

The present administration doesn't care about its international reputation, you need only look at what Wilbur Ross and John Bolton say, which is that, basically, the USA is the most powerful country in the world and they can do anything and say anything they want because they are too big to fail, and what Canada or the UK or Germany says is literally worthless. And after the complaints and the indignation, we and everyone else insulted by their President will go crawling to the USA for their help, access to their markets -anything to compensate for our weakness, our incompetence. But on the other side of the argument, Theresa May, Angela Merket and Emmanuel Macron have, in effect, written off the next two years and are just waiting for the USA to change its President and act like a responsible adult again.

[Nick Danger]

https://www.wikihow.com/Obtain-a-Cop...-in-California
I was born in California so I looked up the process because I remember it being much more involved the last time I got a certified copy of the birth certificate. According to this link, you fill out an application, find a notary public, send a check to the California health department, and wait fifteen days for processing. It's not the toughest process in the world, but it's the first step if you've lost your documents. I just got my social security card because I lost that a while ago and I used my birth certificate, but they did not give me a temporary. I waited about ten days for it to be mailed.

So assuming your driver's license requires these documents, you might be waiting about twenty five days before you can prove to your dmv both proof of identity and citizenship. Might there be ways to expedite this? Possibly, but you can imagine what it's like for someone who works six days a week to deal with government bureaucrats and to be sent home multiple times because the utility bill they're using for address in the state misspelled their name or something.

It is possible the process was easier back in the day, but it isn't quick I don't think.

Ok, Nick, it is not hard -for you; it is not expensive -for you. But it might be for someone else who is not as resourceful as you, or as self-confident. For someone making the transition from Michael to Michaela (or Michaela to Michael) visiting any State or Federal office can be a traumatic experience, and if the clerk behind the desk has been instructed to create a 'hostile environment' in the office then it is easy to understand why so many people don't bother. As I suggested, scrap ID cards, and create another system, and no, I don't mean ID chips inserted into your arm.

I'm willing to accept that it's possibly more difficult to re-acquire your ID today than it was in the 90's. But I'm still not willing to accept that it's some Herculean trial. If you are who you say you are, if you don't have any criminal warrants, and if you're supposed to be in the USA, you can get an ID. If it ends up being a "traumatic experience," you can always go see the DMV psychiatrist afterwards.

I missed this before - hard to keep up with all of your nonsense claims.

First , why would the Russians want to help both sides? Isn't the whole point of meddling in an election to try to influence the outcome one way or the other?

Second, why would the Russians try to help the Democrats when Putin had clearly expressed antipathy toward Hillary Clinton on account of things she did when she was Secretary of State?

Third, you are ignoring two obvious facts, which have no equivalent on the other side. One is the unusual pattern of linkages between Trump and his associates and Russians. The other is the fact that Trump has conspicuously gone out of his way to avoid any criticism of Russia and to argue it's case (eg at the recent G7 meeting).

The suspicion of Hillary's Russian ties revolves around the dossier underwritten by the Democratic Party regarding Trump's activities in Russia, a dossier that found its way into the hands of the FBI.

The theory is that she couldn't have acquired the information without collusion. And no, not collusion with Vladimir Putin. Hillary's Russian ties are much more pedestrian, as befits her status as an ex-Secretary of State and failed Presidential candidate.

[buttslinger]

Even if Nick started dressing like Prince and giving his employees free dental, that still leaves the matter of 60 million Americans who wholeheartedly believe in a Muslim Ban. I guess Obama's vision of clarity and peace didn't trickle down so good.
I really do think Mueller's vote is going to be the only one that really counts. On several counts. If the crime is Treason, would that be held in a Military Court? Hmmm.....

[Fitzcarraldo]

If the crime is Treason, would that be held in a Military Court? Hmmm.....

Nope. Impeachment by the House, and conviction or acquittal by the Senate for whatever.

[Nick Danger]

Even if Nick started dressing like Prince and giving his employees free dental...

That made me chuckle - reminded me of Charlie Murphy's "True Hollywood Story" about Prince. "I don't know what he was angry about. He knows where he got that shirt from, and it damn sure wasn't the men's department." Funny shit.

I don't have employees, Buttslinger. I do work with other people, but only on a project basis. I don't like the idea of paying someone by the hour to do my dirty work, I'd rather just do it myself than create a job that would barely support a shit-tier lifestyle.

No, Obama's ideas didn't trickle down, because they were great ideas for an entirely different planet than this one. Peace comes only at the end of war, and the end of war is a long, long time from now on Planet Earth.

Also, trust me, if Trump thinks he's going to be charged with treason, he'll fire Mueller first. Think about it, what's less trouble for him? A years-long legal battle on the international stage, or the temporary backlash of firing a special prosecutor? A no-brainer.

[joeycup]

Putting the merits and demerits of a Trump victory to one side for the moment, can we agree he's not exactly enhancing the international reputation of the US. The world's media are having a field day ...

this is the funniest pic i've seen in awhile

[Fitzcarraldo]

A years-long legal battle on the international stage, or the temporary backlash of firing a special prosecutor? A no-brainer.

I suppose you could call immediate impeachment, certain conviction, and prompt removal from office "temporary."