Happiness is a warm gun

[Ben in LA]

What will the President and Congress do?

Nothing.

Wrong. They'll make an empty speech and offer "thoughts and prayers".

[Stavros]

Texas’s lieutenant governor reacted to a deadly school shooting by suggesting schools have too many doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8358691.html

At last, progress.

[filghy2]

Texas’s lieutenant governor reacted to a deadly school shooting by suggesting schools have too many doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8358691.html

At last, progress.

So rather than having to shoot everyone, the gunman just sets fire to the school and they die because they can't get out? We all know the real problem - schools have too many students waiting to be shot.

[MrFanti]

Princess Diana's driver was drunk when she died in 1997

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...ticle-1.773531

[Stavros]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...ticle-1.773531

How many mass murderers in the gun crimes of Las Vegas, Parkland and Santa Fe were drunk when they pulled the trigger? Would they have been able to kill so many people in the space of minutes had they been armed with a bow and arrow?

[Stavros]

Violent video games and films, abortion and divorce are behind the US school shooting epidemic - but not guns, according to the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, where 10 people were shot dead on Friday.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8361006.html

More insights into America from the Lt-Governor. Anything, anything but the gun.

[MrFanti]

How many mass murderers in the gun crimes of Las Vegas, Parkland and Santa Fe were drunk when they pulled the trigger? Would they have been able to kill so many people in the space of minutes had they been armed with a bow and arrow?

Check your numbers against how many women and children have been killed by drunk drivers. They would still be alive today if the driver were drinking club soda.
The reality to you will be shocking.

But folks need their alcohol...that I do understand.
Individual responsibility with alcohol and guns? Yep I'll agree with you!

[trish]

So ban cars, or post your shit in another thread.

[blackchubby38]

Check your numbers against how many women and children have been killed by drunk drivers. They would still be alive today if the driver were drinking club soda.
The reality to you will be shocking.

But folks need their alcohol...that I do understand.
Individual responsibility with alcohol and guns? Yep I'll agree with you!

Number of alcohol impaired crash fatalities in 2016- 10,497 28% of all crash deaths.

Number of gun deaths in 2015 - 14,925. Number of people injured- 26,819.

Since you want to play the "Think of the children" game:

2016- Teens and Children killed with guns- 1,876

Children killed in drunk driving accidents- A total of 1,233 children 14 and younger were killed in motor vehicle
traffic crashes in 2016. Of these 1,233 fatalities, 214 children (17%)
died in alcohol-impaired-driving crashes. Of these 214 child deaths:
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115 (54%) were occupants of vehicles with drivers who had BACs
of .08 g/dL or higher;
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61 (29%) were occupants of other vehicles;
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36 (17%) were nonoccupants (pedestrians, pedalcyclists, or other
nonoccupants); and
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2 (<1%) were drivers

I'm a person who happens to think if there is a hell, there is a special place in it for drunk drivers. But when a person drives drunk they don't intend to kill a person. When a person wants to intimidate, rob, or murder, the use of a firearm makes it easier for them to achieve anyone of those intentions.

I want to make it clear that, I DON'T WANT TO BAN GUNS. So I'm not being a hypocrite when I'm saying that there is a huge difference between violent gun deaths and drunk driving deaths.

Speaking of which, I think the argument you're making is straw man 101. The bumping the thread every time you come across a story about someone dying in a drunk driving accident is classic trolling and a bit morbid if you ask me.

[MrFanti]

I want to make it clear that, I DON'T WANT TO BAN GUNS.

Outstanding....And I'll meet more on my territory than the alcohol territory.
And there have been accidental gun deaths by moron owners too.....without the intent to kill.

I'm okay with a ban on assault weapons but not a complete gun ban. Which still leaves the door wide open on alcohol unless you want to include absinthe and moonshine in.