The TS Jessy Dubai Case

[christianxxx]

http://lasvegas.backpage.com/Transse...-face/21231091 - 80 bucks

http://phoenix.backpage.com/Transsex...-lips/23157059 - 99 bucks

http://sanantonio.backpage.com/Trans...-made/15829013 - 80 bucks

http://memphis.backpage.com/Transsex...-tr-m/13418855 - 40 bucks

i could go on and on to every city in america.

i love it when you tell me my own fucking life and job for the past 15 years. Chief, you are a FAN, you are a FAN, you are a FAN. Please keep that in mind when you try to argue with me.

[christianxxx]

The thing I am saying is decent performer in porn shouldn't be flat broke. I never indicated they are making 500k a year. I just said they make a decent dollar. I wasn't say top performers reflects the industry as a whole. Your 50 to 100 dollars of privates on backpage is way off if you are referring for the hour. I am just saying you can make a decent dollar, if you are smart. Of course our definition of decent dollar will be different.

okay now i have to talk about economics. First of all, most girls in the biz live in large cities where the cost of living is higher. You can't exactly live in Bakersfield and work in LA. You can't live in Albany and work in NYC.

I would estimate that 95 percent of the girls in TS porn have not had any education past HS. I would estimate that they probably don't have the prior knowledge and/or guidance about checking accounts, savings accounts, how to budget, how to use a spreadsheet, how to save money for a rainy day, how to manage debt etc.

The sex industry isn't exactly a 9 to 5 where you get a paycheck every two weeks. Because that makes it much easier to budget effectively. But when your income is in cash that you never know when its coming, or camming where the swings in check margins can be huge, porn checks are few and far between and cant be counted in, well thats not easy to budget. Throw in travel expenses, wardrobe, and plastic surgery modifications and some girls have huge deficits they have to make up each month.

Those two factors together mean that making a decent dollar doesn't matter. What matters is how hard it is to budget and save. Also don't forget that the easiest money to blow and spend is cash money. It burns a hole in your pocket. Much harder to blow a check that is deposited into your account directly. Just ask any stripper.

[lifeisfiction]

There are girls that offer low prices, that is not majority of women. You're trying to tell me the majority of women on backpage rates are 50-100 dollars. No. There are women who have some low rates, but they are not the majority (including both GG and Ts). Streetwalkers are different and I never messed with them. From my experience the lowest rate I paid for the half was a 80 and the highest was 600 in general and that was about over the course 8 years of seeing escorts. I won't even go into 1 hour and multiples. But you know what it's late I should finish my project and go to bed, I have to be up early. I will let those that see escorts chime in on this, because you are saying the majority of escorts on backpage are 50-100 dollars an hour. Unless New York state is a higher price than the rest of the US I find it hard press to believe it.

I should state that was on my first meeting. Repeats, well that's a different story. I thought I better add that in.

[bigkid69]

There are girls that offer low prices, that is not majority of women. You're trying to tell me the majority of women on backpage rates are 50-100 dollars. No. There are women who have some low rates, but they are not the majority (including both GG and Ts). Streetwalkers are different and I never messed with them. From my experience the lowest rate I paid for the half was a 80 and the highest was 600 in general and that was about over the course 8 years of seeing escorts. I won't even go into 1 hour and multiples. But you know what it's late I should finish my project and go to bed, I have to be up early. I will let those that see escorts chime in on this, because you are saying the majority of escorts on backpage are 50-100 dollars an hour. Unless New York state is a higher price than the rest of the US I find it hard press to believe it.

I should state that was on my first meeting. Repeats, well that's a different story. I thought I better add that in.

What I think he's saying is that it is hard to charge $1000/hour if there are girls everywhere charging much much much less. I see plenty of escorts, GG and TS, I know my budget and only see girls with reviews and/or reliable links, these girls charge accordingly. Guys willing to bite the bullet and take one for the team are willing to go for the less expensive girls but the market is filled with guys like that. The market is not filled with guys willing to pay $1000/hour.

[bluebottle]

This is rather devolving from the original issue...

[christianxxx]

thank you bigkid69 for restating what lifeisfiction of course as usual missed and then tried to come over the top like a douche.

[lifeisfiction]

thank you bigkid69 for restating what lifeisfiction of course as usual missed and then tried to come over the top like a douche.

Thanks bigkid69. That makes a lot more sense. I would say the internet has changed escorting. It is easier for providers to reach a larger audience. Still a good provider that starts low will raise their price, because when they get wind of their good reviews they will charge more. I never alluded that 1k is what they are all charging. Escorting costs money, but no one wants to waste money on a bad experience. I just felt the price he was stating was too low because good providers were never 50-100 dollars a hour on average in New York State. Maybe it's different on the west coast. Any good provider will never stay cheap for long. They tend to move up in price.

Yes competition affects prices. I think reviews give more balance.

And yes we are way off topic. We are in the danger zone.

Christian you know you love me. (I just think he has personal fondness for me).

[bigkid69]

We are off topic somewhat but this is how mature discussions evolve, isn't that the subject of an entire thread somewhere on how discussion has died here?? Here, I will bring it back:

Basically, like I said like 3 pages ago, I think you can make a comfortable living in porn, if done correctly, as CXXX has stated. And even if done correctly, I think it would be extremely difficult to scrape together $30K, that's a lot of cash!

[Trapt53]

Any non-speculative news on what the actually charges were?

[natina]

most transgender are sex workers as a result of

Discrimination.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x309wwj

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Trans Americans More Likely to Live in Poverty

REPORT: Trans Americans Four Times More Likely to Live in Poverty

Is there a financial penalty for being transgender in America? The extent of the answers have some serious implications, according to a groundbreaking new report.
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While positive trans visiblity is on the upswing, it's undeniable that real legal and economic disparities face U.S. trans citizens daily, especially those who are multiply marginalized by intersecting identities of race, gender, and class. The ongoing epidemic of fatal violence against trans women of color is one major indicator.

As these deaths go largely overlooked by mainstream media, the the average cisgender (nontrans) American may have difficulty visualizing the concrete harm — both big and small — that antitrans discrimination brings to the trans folks in their communities everyday. In order to help fill that gap with more much-needed information, a new report by the Movement Advancement Project and Center for American Progress, Paying an Unfair Price: The Financial Penalty for Being Transgender in America, provides unignorable data that directly links prejudiced attitudes towards trans people with the trans population's striking economic imbalance.

Providing analysis and clear visuals related to fiscal matters — an issue, MAP and CAP states, which resonates with all Americans — the report rephrases a question common among trans advocates, asking, "Is there a financial penalty for being trans in America?"

The answer is a resounding yes, and the reasons why are as important to understand as they are damning for the policymakers, health care providers, and educators currently upholding a system that renders trans people uniquely vulnerable to financial destitution, and its accompanying further ostracization and criminalization.

In one of its most striking findings, MAP and CAP report that trans people are nearly four times more likely to have a yearly household income below $10,000 (15 percent vs. 4 percent of the nontrans population). The numbers go up if a trans individual is a person of color, with Asian American/Pacific Islander and Latino trans folks nearly six times as likely to be living in poverty as their API or Latino cisgender counterparts.


http://www.advocate.com/politics/tra...y-live-poverty

The tangible symptoms of this disparity include commonly cited realities like difficulty finding a job or housing, difficulty obtaining correct legal identification documents, and facing medical expenses not covered by health insurance, as well as less-discussed issues like credit discrimination and unsafe schools leading to less sustainable employment.



These common problems result not only in short-term crises for trans citizens that can include unemployment and homelessness, but also long-term financial instability, the report notes. For instance, the inability to open a line of credit or obtain a job with enough income to fund a savings account means many trans people are left covering the basic necessities of food, rent, clothing, and health care paycheck-to-paycheck. That means they are are not working towards building a career or fulfilling their life's dreams, funding their retirement, or simply keeping a financial cushion between themselves and destitutuion should any unforeseen life crises, like car repairs or a child's illness, arise. All of these factors can contribute to a trans person's lowered quality of life, even in moments when they are not actively facing harassment.

So, what can be done to help fix the system? Paying an Unfair Price suggests a number of policy changes that can begin to be implemented now, including clear federal laws prohibiting employee discrimination, evicting or refusing to rent to tenants, and refusing loans based on gender identity; simpler policies for updating legal identification; cultural competency training for government, health, and educational professionals; and changes in school environments that curtail the bullying of trans students.

Read more about economic inequality facing trans Americans here, and find CAP and MAP's companion report, Understanding the Issues Facing Transgender Americans, here.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/tra...y-live-poverty