Pulse Nightclub in Orlando Attack

[Stavros]

Guns are not the problem - attitudes are.
How long will it be before London's Islamic Mayor institutes some type of an anti-LGBT law?

London has a Labour Mayor, not an Islamic Mayor.

[fred41]

Or it could reflect the more important component of public opinion which does not want to see images of semi-naked women on London Transport buses and trains...there are many ways of advertising a product, you don't need to undress a woman to do it.

That is not the explanation he gives:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/wo...ages.html?_r=0

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport

He states he is against 'body shaming' ads that give young girls unrealistic expectations about women's bodies.

It would be even more ridiculous for a liberal city like London to start banning any ads because people are wearing bathing suits. I don't know much about London , but I doubt people using public transportation are that prudish. What would be next?

But as I've stated before, I would be in disagreement for either reason if our mayor did that in NYC ...and I don't think women need that type of intervention by the government either...what's next , bubble wrap everyone and only play soothing music over loudspeakers?

[Stavros]

I do not live in London so some of the detail escapes me but I agree that 'body shaming' ads should be banned from London Transport buses and trains, it is not as if the companies selling their gear cannot advertise it elsewhere in London. The UK and London in particular already has a high reputation for the quality of its advertising, it cannot be beyond those marketing genii to produce material that does cause offence.

[giovanni_hotel]

You are now being faced with a stark choice, no running away from this.

Islam is not compatible with the liberal western society.

If you want to keep the advances that have been made for the LGBT community then the Islamics need to stay in their own countries.

Idiocy.

The oldest and most established Muslim community in the U.S. is in Dearborn, Michigan and not ONE Muslim American from there has ever committed any kind of radicalized attack against U.S. citizens.

[MrFanti]

my point is there were several warning signs and people didn't react to them, and this is the brutal end result[/B][/COLOR]

And those warning signs were attitudes and beliefs...

[MrFanti]

London has a Labour Mayor, not an Islamic Mayor.

The Mayor of London is Muslim

he city's first ethnic minority mayor, and the first Muslim to become mayor of a major Western capital

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadiq_Khan

[dc_guy_75]

It's only a matter of time, and it will be a "2nd generation" Muslim that carries out an attack, like Ft. Hood, Boston Bombers, Paris, Orlando etc.

For a community <2% of the American population, they commit terrorism at a very high-rate.

But we shouldn't talk about, it'll just drive even more Muslims to become terrorists, right?

Regardless, Islam has no place in Western societies, and it shouldn't have any place on this Earth. Fuck that religion and the people who follow such a backwards, savage religion.

[Castor_Troy05]

All religions are backwards and savage, they all have extremists. No religion should have place in any society.

Im pretty sure more Americans are killed by other Americans than by Muslims. Yes the extremists are the current "bad guys" but if the entire group of followers, wanted you dead, you'd be dead already.

[Chaos]

I was in Orlando when this happened...All I can really say is that a lot of people came together to help and that was beautiful.
The thing that pisses me off is hearing all the signs that were prevalent but ignored by so many,and how LOUD the voices were (just out and about during my vacation) AGAINST the victims of this...I got in several arguments the day after and in subsequent days...even with my own friends...(they're not friends anymore). It's sad that there can be a double standard so VILE where it's ok for me to have the lifestyle I do,but when something like this happens they immediately victim shame and then turn and say "Oh but you're fine,you've only ever dated real girls...you've never touched one of them." It makes me mad that we still can't just see people,there has to be arbitrary labels for everything. Maybe it's because I'm one of the ones with a label (Mentally Ill)...maybe it's because of friends here and on other sites,or maybe,just maybe,it's because of all of that...and because no one's picture should be painted for them by someone who feels nothing but prejudice...

I don't know if I made any point...I don't know if I even made sense to anyone...Remember...I'm "Mentally Ill"....not "Chuck Adams" or "Chaos"....to most of the world.....I'll just be over here,swept under the rug with every other group they ignore until it's convenient or attack worthy...sigh. They keep telling me it gets worse before it gets better....I've seen a HELL of a lot of worse...and almost ZERO better...

[Stavros]

The Mayor of London is Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadiq_Khan

Indeed, but he is not an 'Islamic' Mayor as he represents the Labour Party not some Islamic party. Nobody ever said Mrs Thatcher was a feminist Prime Minister even though she was a woman. Anne Hidalgo is the Socialist Mayor of Paris, not the Gay Mayor of Paris.