Did Trans500 Cross Line By Having An Adult Act As An Under Aged Character?

[lifeisfiction]

Dreamon, you will have to explain the court's understanding pornography on the Miller Test and to why courts have concluded in this particular manner. I like my first amendment law, but I think many people don't understand why the court case is significant.

I still can't figure people out. Mia Khalifa did a scene in which she wore a Muslim head dress during the performance. Some people where up in arms over it, but not one person thought wow, the scene was her portraying a teenager having sex with her stepmom and boyfriend. No one was up in arms over that so, like I said not every fantasy is for everyone. I don't expect everyone to like what I like and variety is the spice of life.

[Lester316]

I understand your argument, but you don't understand porn if you make this statement. Porn has ALWAYS been about a fantasy and let's face it, older men fantasize about fucking teenage girls.

Why do you think Jenna Haze was so popular? Dakota Sky? Lupe Fuentes? Kitty? Kat? There are endless examples of 18-19 year old girls that look like they are 12 who become wildly popular bc old men jerk off to watching super young girls get fucked by big dicks, black dicks, any dicks.

Do I think the scene in question is in poor taste? Definitely, its stupid and doesn't make much sense to me. Does it cross some imaginary line? Not in my opinion. Just because someone plays on a playground doesn't mean she is some sort of baby. I play video games in an arcade designed for 12 year olds too. Would everyone be up in arms if she was playing super Mario Kart as an intro?

And now as porn has undergone a paradigm shift and because even MORE geared toward all natural young teens (x-art, babes, passion-HD, nubiles, etc etc) you are seeing even MORE of young girls designed to look as young as possible getting fucked.

Got to say I agree with some of what you say Christian but disagree with some of the rest; either way you're a legend though. I understand porn, I understand the fantasy element just fine and you're 100% right about current trends and the fact that older men love the idea of fucking teenage girls. I think your gaming/Mario Kart analogy is flawed though; the essence of my issue is down to depiction, showing someone who is a teenager/adult gaming would to me signify the popularity of Geek culture (ie: on current trends) the depiction here (regardless of the dialogue) screams child. Playing on a playground doesn't mean someone is a baby but contextually I can't think of any cases where an adult/teenager on the playground isn't there supervising their toddler and perhaps on the actual apparatus to make sure they don't have an accident or whatever. In this trailer she is made to look childlike; she is noticeably shorter than her 'parents', hops and skips around, and plays on her own clearly for her enjoyment. I know others won't agree but to me the way she acts just doesn't fit with someone who would be of legal and consenting age. I can't speak for other countries but here in the UK the legal age of consent is 16 and I can't think of anyone that age I know who acts the way shown in that part of the trailer.

I'm guessing no one actually watched the scene? They clearly say she's 18 during it, so there is no case here. Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym. Say what you want about that, but that's really all you have.

I watched the trailer. They can say she is 18 but that just masks the true intention. 'Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym' - can you think of many 18 year old people who would willingly be seen doing such a thing? The depiction doesn't fit with the dialogue one bit, she isn't acting like an 18 year old. Also (I know I'm being harsh here but..) saying 'just an 18 year old ... that's really all you have' has the same connotations as 'she told me she was 18 officer'.

Exactly. Porn is fantasy, it has always been fantasy. Maybe you will agree with me that some people are wanting porn to be political correct for some reason.

I couldn't care less about political correctness; but what's morally right is a different thing. I challenge anyone who thinks there is 100% nothing wrong with the trailer to show it to their peers and make the assertion to them it's just fantasy whilst informing them some people think the trailer crosses a line; if they all say 'oh she is clearly a teenage girl of 18 and isn't doing anything at all to act/appear like a child' I'll be stunned.

I don't expect everyone to like what I like and variety is the spice of life.

I 100% agree with that statement we don't all have to like the same things and should understand others enjoy things we don't. But if someone likes something that depicts a performer as a child that's where things cross the line for me. They can like it, I accept that there are people out there that do, I just can't accept that is morally not a bad thing in any way.

[MrBest]

Oh man...that trailer was really tough to make it through

This is probably where I'm about to burn any chance of getting work from them, but oh well. They haven't hired me ever anyways:

I can't wrap my head around if this is completely, utterly, morally wrong, or helping undesirables not act on their impulses.. Does smut like this, "limp fetish", etc help curb people with paedophilic or rapist tendencies by letting them live it out in fantasy? Or does it perpetuate their desires to act on their impulses? I remember going to therapy in my teenage years and the shrink led me to believe masturbating to an idea only reinforced, and deeply rooted the thought.

Does anyone know of any reliable literature on this?

didnt you perform in jay sin ts playground?

[MrBest]

Oh man...that trailer was really tough to make it through

This is probably where I'm about to burn any chance of getting work from them, but oh well. They haven't hired me ever anyways:

I can't wrap my head around if this is completely, utterly, morally wrong, or helping undesirables not act on their impulses.. Does smut like this, "limp fetish", etc help curb people with paedophilic or rapist tendencies by letting them live it out in fantasy? Or does it perpetuate their desires to act on their impulses? I remember going to therapy in my teenage years and the shrink led me to believe masturbating to an idea only reinforced, and deeply rooted the thought.

Does anyone know of any reliable literature on this?

Got to say I agree with some of what you say Christian but disagree with some of the rest; either way you're a legend though. I understand porn, I understand the fantasy element just fine and you're 100% right about current trends and the fact that older men love the idea of fucking teenage girls. I think your gaming/Mario Kart analogy is flawed though; the essence of my issue is down to depiction, showing someone who is a teenager/adult gaming would to me signify the popularity of Geek culture (ie: on current trends) the depiction here (regardless of the dialogue) screams child. Playing on a playground doesn't mean someone is a baby but contextually I can't think of any cases where an adult/teenager on the playground isn't there supervising their toddler and perhaps on the actual apparatus to make sure they don't have an accident or whatever. In this trailer she is made to look childlike; she is noticeably shorter than her 'parents', hops and skips around, and plays on her own clearly for her enjoyment. I know others won't agree but to me the way she acts just doesn't fit with someone who would be of legal and consenting age. I can't speak for other countries but here in the UK the legal age of consent is 16 and I can't think of anyone that age I know who acts the way shown in that part of the trailer.



I watched the trailer. They can say she is 18 but that just masks the true intention. 'Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym' - can you think of many 18 year old people who would willingly be seen doing such a thing? The depiction doesn't fit with the dialogue one bit, she isn't acting like an 18 year old. Also (I know I'm being harsh here but..) saying 'just an 18 year old ... that's really all you have' has the same connotations as 'she told me she was 18 officer'.



I couldn't care less about political correctness; but what's morally right is a different thing. I challenge anyone who thinks there is 100% nothing wrong with the trailer to show it to their peers and make the assertion to them it's just fantasy whilst informing them some people think the trailer crosses a line; if they all say 'oh she is clearly a teenage girl of 18 and isn't doing anything at all to act/appear like a child' I'll be stunned.



I 100% agree with that statement we don't all have to like the same things and should understand others enjoy things we don't. But if someone likes something that depicts a performer as a child that's where things cross the line for me. They can like it, I accept that there are people out there that do, I just can't accept that is morally not a bad thing in any way.

did you enjoy this scene?

[KellyKlaymour]

didnt you perform in jay sin ts playground?

I did indeed! I fail to see what that has to do with my comment about this trailer, as my scene partner and I didn't portray implied statutory rape of a child.

[KellyKlaymour]

did you enjoy this scene?

You literally linked this from Sarina Valentina's blog, that's not me.

[MrBest]

You literally linked this from Sarina Valentina's blog, that's not me.

i included your post by mistake

[MrBest]

I did indeed! I fail to see what that has to do with my comment about this trailer, as my scene partner and I didn't portray implied statutory rape of a child.

why did you decide to to work for ts playground if there are several scenes in the series with underage theme

[KellyKlaymour]

why did you decide to to work for ts playground if there are several scenes in the series with underage theme

I was, until you posted that picture of Sarina Valentina with the dollhouse, unaware they did themes portraying children. My scene did not. Had I showed up on set and learned that was to be the theme - I would have declined the scene and packed up on principle.

I'm not blasting Trans500 as a whole, as I wouldn't blast Evil Angel as a whole because of singular scenes. I'm merely criticizing this one scene, that the thread is about, in particular.

If you read the latter half of my comment, I left room for discussion about literature possibly supporting this type of porn as a way to curb immoral impulses.

Why are you using references of myself to attack a criticism of a scene I had nothing to do with?

[runningdownthatdream]

Clearly two very distinct and opposing opinions in this thread as to what constitutes 'the line' with respect to pedo porn. On one hand I agree that nothing illegal seems to have taken place as the actor portraying the pre-pubescent child must be at least 18 to have participated in the movie. However, if you enjoy watching porn that clearly depicts the seduction and subsequent rape of a convincingly pre-pubescent child, you might have a problem that needs addressing before you start looking for the real thing.

I understand Christian and MrYates' points but I also weigh them differently since their perspective is more tuned to the industry side of things although Steven also represents the industry and he thinks the scene went too far.

Sometimes drawing a line - imaginary or otherwise - as to what's right and what's wrong is all that keeps some of us clean. I hope that that those who view this scene as innocuous have enough self-restraint to keep from viewing the real thing or - at worst - producing the real thing.