Is Tgirl a better word - and should that become the norm?

[GroobyKrissy]

Well, I'd like you to transition the niche towards using less controversial terminology, but I don't expect you to. But really Krissy is the one who brought it up in claiming that I see this as some kind of win/lose game. Talk to her.

~BB~

Do you really believe anyone falls for this crap that you let spill from your mouth?

Do you so easily forget what you have written? "I win" - "I'm right" - "You're wrong" - I could EASILY pull up probably at least 50 instances where you have stated in some form or another that you see ALL arguments you are a part of as win/lose game. Maybe you do have some form of short-term amnesia or something... possibly get that looked into at your next doctor's visit.

Just let me know when you want me to start pulling those up.

[GroobyKrissy]

I'm not going to bog this down with a million sources and grant you your semantic (read: distractive) argument, but one quick jaunt over to the Transgender Law Center should give you all the number you need to prove the COMMON KNOWLEDGE that trans people are violently oppressed.

http://www.transgenderlaw.org/resour...sfactsheet.pdf

Of course, you wouldn't know that because you're not actually trans. Again, how's that male privilege working out for you?

~BB~

OK, again with the put-downs. So, you're in essence saying that you can't back up what you say and all you have is to put someone else down.

AGAIN... we're discussing the specific usage of the word "TRANNY" in relation to CRIMES COMMITTED (this was your original beef... just to remind you, you know... because of the short term amnesia thing).

AGAIN... PROVE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE USAGE OF THE WORD "TRANNY" and MURDER, SUICIDE, POVERTY, HOMELESSNESS, and dying puppies. (Ok, I'll give you the last one for free.)

We're not discussing the fact that Transgender people suffer more / less hate crimes, which is what your link addresses.

And WHO dodges the actual question?

[GroobySteven]

Well, I'd like you to transition the niche towards using less controversial terminology, but I don't expect you to. But really Krissy is the one who brought it up in claiming that I see this as some kind of win/lose game. Talk to her.

~BB~

Like Tgirls?
Grooby has done more to propagate the usage of this word more than any other one source/company/group that I know. Although we didn't coin the term, we were one of the very first websites to start using it and have spent $1000's branding the word and using it as a word for Transsexuals.

I'd suggest we wouldn't be having this discussion about the word "tgirls" - if this adult company, hadn't started using it in so many of it's titles, promotions and properties.

Now ... what EXACTLY has your contribution been - to pretty much, anything, other than poison and spite?

[BellaBellucci]

Like Tgirls?
Grooby has done more to propagate the usage of this word more than any other one source/company/group that I know. Although we didn't coin the term, we were one of the very first websites to start using it and have spent $1000's branding the word and using it as a word for Transsexuals.

I'd suggest we wouldn't be having this discussion about the word "tgirls" - if this adult company, hadn't started using it in so many of it's titles, promotions and properties.

Now ... what EXACTLY has your contribution been - to pretty much, anything, other than poison and spite?

Yeah, OK. First of all, there are lots of sites out there changing their terms. Eros and most cam sites quickly come to mind. So while I'm glad help, and I appreciate your effort, you're not alone... and you're not some kind of hero.

As to my contribution, I have been railing against the words 'tranny' and 'shemale' for so long that people don't even remember that they're a huge part of the reason that you and I personally have had issues that never seem to get resolved, and that again, it adversely affected my career.

You want to talk about walking the walk? Couple that with the fact that my site uses NONE of the questionable terms and is one of VERY few that can say that, and I think the case could be made that I made one of the first and certainly the most self-sacrificial contributions to this cause.

If you want to hate me for opposing your marketing plan, that's fine, but you at least owe me the respect of being honest about it.

~BB~

[GroobyKrissy]

So now you think I'm dumb enough to let you taunt me into doing something to have action taken against me? Wow, for someone who's such a bully, you are REALLY bad at it!

Bye, Felicia. I'm done with you. Twist my words all you like. Those who really care will read what I actually wrote.

~BB~

I'm not taunting you. I'm not trying to goad you into getting yourself banned. In fact, I have stated publicly on this board on more than one occasion, I am RARELY in favor of censoring and / or banning anybody from a public forum for any reason. PROVABLE - I've said it. If you were to be banned, for stating an opinion, I would readily defend your right to be here, as I've done in the past with others. That being said, I don't own the board and the rules aren't mind to enforce.

I'm exposing your cowardice. You put up this big front... like you're some behemoth of logic and clarity. You're a fraud - intellectually.

If you argue your points with logic, there is absolutely NO REASON to send a PM to somebody since your public discourse will do the talking for you. I am consistent in what I say, logical in the way I state it, and not afraid to defend or argue my points. I have no need of a PM system because I'm not afraid of anything I've said. You clearly are.

[Tapatio]

"Tgirl" sounds childish, to me.

[BellaBellucci]

Oh, and another thing Steven: accusing people of being 'vile' and 'poison' and whatever other hyperbolic black-and-white insults you sling at people simply because they disagree with you is almost dogmatic in nature. You are not god, and everyone who opposes you is not the devil. Get a grip.

~BB~

[GroobyKrissy]

Yeah, OK. First of all, there are lots of sites out there changing their terms. Eros and most cam sites quickly come to mind. So while I'm glad help, and I appreciate your effort, you're not alone... and you're not some kind of hero.

As to my contribution, I have been railing against the words 'tranny' and 'shemale' for so long that people don't even remember that they're a huge part of the reason that you and I personally have had issues that never seem to get resolved, and that again, it adversely affected my career.

You want to talk about walking the walk? Couple that with the fact that my site uses NONE of the questionable terms and is one of VERY few that can say that, and I think the case could be made that I made one of the first and certainly the most self-sacrificial contributions to this cause.

If you want to hate me for opposing your marketing plan, that's fine, but you at least owe me the respect of being honest about it.

~BB~

And yet you've no problems using the terms yourself on YOUR PERSONALLY BRANDED blog... marketing the material...? Etc. Etc.

Enough said. Why don't you start being honest?

[GroobySteven]

Yeah, OK. First of all, there are lots of sites out there changing their terms. Eros and most cam sites quickly come to mind. So while I'm glad help, and I appreciate your effort, you're not alone... and you're not some kind of hero.

We WERE pretty much alone - and WE ARE the ones those cam sites, dating sites, etc. come to for advice on the terms. We do it all the time. I'm not a hero - I'm doing what we've always done, which is promote Tgirls positively

As to my contribution, I have been railing against the words 'tranny' and 'shemale' for so long that people don't even remember that they're a huge part of the reason that you and I personally have had issues that never seem to get resolved, and that again, it adversely affected my career.

No you didn't - you never railed against anything other than snide remarks and failing at every mission statement you've had. You never had a career to be affected, get that out of your fantasies.

You want to talk about walking the walk? Couple that with the fact that my site uses NONE of the questionable terms and is one of VERY few that can say that, and I think the case could be made that I made one of the first and certainly the most self-sacrificial contributions to this cause.

If you want to hate me for opposing your marketing plan, that's fine, but you at least owe me the respect of being honest about it.

a) Your site which is ... months old and reaches maybe a few dozen people? Big fucking deal. You made ZERO contributions to this cause, get that into your head.

b) I don't hate you. I think you have huge paranoia and ego issues that need resolved. I don't know what you are "honest" about - but I have very very little respect for you, other than the soap box here, that you give me to stand on every now and again.

Topic is CLOSED.
Go to sleep Bella, you're not making any coherent sense.

[Prospero]

How about dickchix ? (joking)

Seriously though, why not transsexuals?