The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

[zulusierra]

In this case it was selection against an innocent by-stander;not the pro handling the gun.
Exactly, guns DO kill people.

That is the point of that particular tool.

As a former Marine, I'm under no delusion that they ultimately serve any other purpose. It does bother me a little when pro-2a folks won't admit that and dance around the subject.

[zulusierra]

And all too often it's an innocent party - a young child or a relation - who suffers or dies. That isn't natural selection. It's as unnatural, violent and cruel as it gets.

Unfortunately, if you dig a little deeper into the statistics, the "children" include a good amount of 16-18 y/o gang members. It generally includes people who will most likely never make a net contribution towards society. It is sad.

And yes, a population in a specific location making poor behavioral decisions that reduce the chance of their progeny and kin passing on their genes to the next generation is the very definition of natural selection.

[trish]

So the security guard was related to the student?

[robertlouis]

Unfortunately, if you dig a little deeper into the statistics, the "children" include a good amount of 16-18 y/o gang members. It generally includes people who will most likely never make a net contribution towards society. It is sad.

And yes, a population in a specific location making poor behavioral decisions that reduce the chance of their progeny and kin passing on their genes to the next generation is the very definition of natural selection.

It might be anecdotal, but most of Trish's cases referred to very young children, and if their deaths/injuries have any statistical significance it surely demands at the very least a commitment by gun owners to be a lot more responsible than some of them seem to be with their weapons in the home.

And as a corollary a ban on weapons being kept in any home where a gun accident, fatal or otherwise, is shown to have been caused by negligence.

[zulusierra]

It might be anecdotal, but most of Trish's cases referred to very young children, and if their deaths/injuries have any statistical significance it surely demands at the very least a commitment by gun owners to be a lot more responsible than some of them seem to be with their weapons in the home.

And as a corollary a ban on weapons being kept in any home where a gun accident, fatal or otherwise, is shown to have been caused by negligence.

You come across a thoughtful man with a good heart.

The world needs more people like that. I disagree with your conclusion on arms but respect your opinion.

[trish]

Even accicental shoting today in six States. Again Tennesee wins the most dangerous State award. In today's mix we have one robber accidentally shooting a fellow henchman. We also have one police officer shooting another police officer in the shoulder. The only thing that can stop a good guy with a gun is another good guy with a gun.

http://accidentalgunshots.tumblr.com/

[Willie Escalade]

Posted this on my Instagram...

[trish]

Man I hate autocorrect. That was supposed to be "Seven accidental shootings..." I'm on the road this week. I'll be poking at the virtual keyboard on my iPad and responding to fewer posts.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ngs/?mobile=wt

[Ben]

G.W. Bush was for assault rifle ban & closing gun show loophole:

[yodajazz]

http://news.yahoo.com/funeral-held-n...183033409.html

Unless a person does something to really piss someone off, a thief would more than likely use a gun for material gain, not to shoot a six year old. People with children, are generally safer, keeping weapons secured. curiousity is natural in children. So is anger and conflict, in their teenage years. Compared to the likeliness of such things happening, a home invasion is very remote. How likely is it, that a bored child will look in their parents, drawers and closets, while they are away? How many teens will have a phylsical fight with peers? How many are bullied? introducing the possiblily of access to guns, to immature youth, is a greater danger, than being robbed at gunpoint. Didn't the teen who killed at Newtown, use they gun purchased by his parents to kill one of them? It's not about confiscating guns, it's about rethinking what is safety.

My link was one of the incidents mentioned in Trish's last link.