Male student gang raped by muslim youth

[tragicomedy]

Prospero never said he was wrong. He merely changed his mind about engaging you. Please refrain fron mischaracterising others and confine your attention to the issue.

Actually he did say he was wrong several posts ago. He had to admit it as he had made that smear out of whole cloth with no evidence to back it up.


It would be nice if you actually read posts before telling me what to do.

[tragicomedy]

Tragicomedy's tactic it is to let someone write three or four paragraphs of thoughtful prose and then respond with two or three sentences to keep his thread alive. Then claim he has not been proven wrong, that others are reactionaries or multi-culturalists who will not accept the real truth which he does nothing to establish. This is a way to keep a debate alive forever and claim he gave as good as he got.

The thread is ugly but it serves one useful function; as a monument to one man's racism, stupidity, and resistance to reason. Surely it's a warning to anyone who would interact with him on cordial terms elsewhere. We could rename it, the scarlet letter;.

I LOVE when P.C. reactionaries fall over themselves to attack. It's not my thread, I didn't start it.

Like Trish and Prospero, you failed to do the simplest bit of reading before attacking.

Isn't it great when p.c zealots and multiculturalists show their true colors? Saves me a lot of time.

[broncofan]

I LOVE when P.C. reactionaries fall over themselves to attack. It's not my thread, I didn't start it.

Like Trish and Prospero, you failed to do the simplest bit of reading before attacking.

Isn't it great when p.c zealots and multiculturalists show their true colors? Saves me a lot of time.

"with two or three sentences to keep his thread alive. Then claim he has not been proven wrong, that others are reactionaries or multi-culturalists who will not accept the real truth which he does nothing to establish. This is a way to keep a debate alive forever and claim he gave as good as he got."

This is your thread even if you didn't start it. You wrote four sentence fragments and a question. While this is more than the two or three sentences I predicted, the content is depressingly familiar and devoid of any sort of argument. Are you capable of writing an argument without excessive reliance on the words "zealot, multi-culturalist (a euphemism for not being a racist), and reactionary"? Try initiating some thought and writing a useful, fleshed-out argument.

Did it occur to you that your quibble has done nothing to change my argument and in fact reinforces it; you have confined yourself to being a pest, you have not made a substantive argument in several pages, and you have been out-argued by more than a half dozen posters. Many of these individuals have made intelligent and forceful arguments and your rebuttals have been piss-poor. But since you have no shame, no decency, and are incapable of rational thought, this thread continues. Please another gratuitous line or two about how the rest of civilized society is composed of reactionaries.

[broncofan]

I realize I've fallen into the trap. This shithead does not have an interest in any other political or religious matters and so not responding to this thread will ensure his timely extinction here. Good riddance.

[Prospero]

No he doesn't have any interest in debate. His true colours were visible in his first few posts where he talks of islam and sexual attacks. No evidence offered. Just smears. He unthinkingly buys into all the worst prejudices against Muslims and posts messages designed to inspire hatred against an entire faith group - with no evidence to support his claims. He then goes into a cloudburst of camouflage trying to insult those of us with knowledge about the subject. PC zealots and multiculturalists being his choice terms to dismiss those who do not unthinkingly accept racist or cultural stereotypes. His thinking is, as i said before, the perfect fit for the sort of cultural stereotyping that end up in atrocities. Hence my reference to Der Sturmer.

[trish]

TC, your post #141 is unnecessary having been superseded by P's post#137. It would be nice if you actually understood the prior posts before

...telling me what to do.

I'm so sorry that you are as blinded by your hatred as I am supported in my trust in all peoples.

[broncofan]

His thinking is, as i said before, the perfect fit for the sort of cultural stereotyping that end up in atrocities.

I agree with you. Sometimes when I am searching Jewish community issues I run into white supremacist sites and what I'm always amazed about is the self-pity. They say the nastiest things and then when challenged claim they are being persecuted. When they make claims the rebuttals are often so obvious that they should have been aware of them while writing. Cognitive dissonance, resistance to new facts, inability to judge their own actions by the same standards they use to judge others. Bad faith. It's as though their agenda has taken possession of their soul and rendered them incapable of the most basic human decency.

[tragicomedy]

I agree with you. Sometimes when I am searching Jewish community issues I run into white supremacist sites and what I'm always amazed about is the self-pity. They say the nastiest things and then when challenged claim they are being persecuted. When they make claims the rebuttals are often so obvious that they should have been aware of them while writing. Cognitive dissonance, resistance to new facts, inability to judge their own actions by the same standards they use to judge others. Bad faith. It's as though their agenda has taken possession of their soul and rendered them incapable of the most basic human decency.

Wow, do you and your ilk lack self awareness or what?


What do you think your buddies have been doing in this thread? They seem to be more interested in prior restraint (typical of p.c. reactionaries) than actual debate. That's the part that's tiring.

Oh and in the outside chance that you have a shred of honesty, go back a few pages and notice that I'm the only person who actually bothered to look up the story and see what local bloggers were saying about the incident. I also noticed how much the BBC seemed to be leaving out and that this is not the first incident of it's kind in Europe with the same ethnic combination in victim and victimizer.


Your buddy Prospero offered NOTHING but attacks and then made the claim that I was providing a link to a nazi site. Showing that he hadn't even bothered to check the link that he was denying out of hand.

I then pivoted to the disproportionately high number of Muslim on non-Muslim gang rapes of minors in his country and that really set him off. It's very hard for the Left in the UK to defend it's track record when these incidents keep coming up again and again. To the point where a former British Foreign Secretary had to bring it up to get the media to address the matter.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/87...ani-rape-gangs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...at-remark.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...at-remark.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...re-easy-173743


and again...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-arrests.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003


then..
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_2128305.html


The sad part is that this has been documented for years and years before Jack Straw made his comments.

British social services had even participated in a documentary that featured discussion of this phenomenon but guess what, pressure from multiculturalists like Prospero kept it off the air.



That's the end result of Left wingers trying to shut down discussion.

[tragicomedy]

No he doesn't have any interest in debate. His true colours were visible in his first few posts where he talks of islam and sexual attacks. No evidence offered. Just smears. He unthinkingly buys into all the worst prejudices against Muslims and posts messages designed to inspire hatred against an entire faith group - with no evidence to support his claims. He then goes into a cloudburst of camouflage trying to insult those of us with knowledge about the subject. PC zealots and multiculturalists being his choice terms to dismiss those who do not unthinkingly accept racist or cultural stereotypes. His thinking is, as i said before, the perfect fit for the sort of cultural stereotyping that end up in atrocities. Hence my reference to Der Sturmer.

I'm the only one who even offered evidence and YOU decided to lie about it. Yet again, it's great to shine that mirror on you disgusting hypocrites. You will literally say anything to defend your world view. Even contradict yourself one post after the other.

That's the galling part, NO Evidence?? What the heck, I'm the only one who even tried to do such a thing and you decided to lie about me.

[Prospero]

Welcome back. Got more hatred for Muslims today to offer?

Where is the evidence for your assertion that "multiculturalists like Prospero kept it off air."

In truth a ciuple of years ago I led a team that spent a significant amount of time investigating the challenges faced by the Muslim community in the UK - and the challenge they present to the wider community. The key issues are islamophobia (of the sort your postings are symptomatic) and an recruitment of young second generation young Muslims by jihdists. There is clearly a link between the two - and this is a serious issue within the community.

The appalling case you provide links to implicates a group of men for whom no one can make any apology and who have been condemned by the Muslim community itself. The fact of their shared "faith" proves what exactly? For people of your prejudiced view, this seems to be that Muslims are all racists and sex criminals (as you suggest in your opening posts) and that there are innumerable other cases. Again no evidence. The faith of these men was irrelevent. There are plenty of sex crimes, by Christians for instance, which do not the get used to characterise Christians as prone to sex rimes because of their faith. Homophobic crimes by christians in the US which do not lead us to conclude that all Christians are homophobic and likely to go beating up or killing gay people.

And by the way Jack Straw's attitude to Islam is pretty controversial and ignorant.. A few years back he suggested that Muslim women should not be allowed to wear the veil.

I stand fully by my labelling of you as a hater.