Fuck You AVN!

[GroobySteven]

The end is now...

Paysites are dead. All too easy to find everything for free now.

Zzzzz. I've heard this for the past few years yet we've just had an awesome year with good growth. Shitty paysites, poorly run businesses and lazy webmasters have had their day. Companies who continue to please their customers, to change with the times, to fight piracy of their content and to produce quality content can still flourish. Which is why Grooby is shooting more scenes a month than ever before.

[BellaBellucci]

I'd like to help you in your fight, but last time I tried to take on 'the man,' I got blacklisted. I'm going through that again.

Kidding! I support the cause.

~BB~

not going through that*

~BB~

[Dino Velvet]

Is this the guy? Fabian Thylmann

[tsadriana]

Is this the guy? Fabian Thylmann

Thats him.

[BellaBellucci]

Is this the guy? Fabian Thylmann

Heeeeey, sexy mon... err... baby! Wanna go out some time? I love your cas... err... eyes.

I'm not a gold digger. Why? Got any?

~BB~

[Dino Velvet]

Described as reclusive. Wonder if he avoids being seen standing behind windows.



Fabian Thylmann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fabian Thylmann is the owner of some of the world’s most heavily used pornography websites, via his company Manwin, which has its headquarters in Luxembourg and offices in Hamburg, London, Los Angeles, Nicosia and Montreal.[1] Combined, his sites generate some 16 billion hits per month and consequently are believed to be among the most popular websites on the planet.
Little is known of the reclusive Thylmann, other than he was born in 1978, is German, lives in Belgium, is married with two children and is a computer programmer. His breakthrough came in the late 1990s when he developed software called NATS (Next-generation Affiliate Tracking Software), which linked up the vast number of internet pornography sites for the first time and enabled visitors to select sex films according to personal preference.[2]
He has only ever given one press interview, to the German edition of the Financial Times at a pornography trade fair in Las Vegas in 2011, which described him as 'The King of Porn'. At the time he welcomed the chance to "clear up rumours" and "dispel conspiracy theories" about his identity. "NATS was very easy to use and could do what the others couldn't. Our objective is actually rather banal, we want to create as many opportunities as possible for people to spend money." He has not spoken publicly since.
Germany's Focus magazine claimed that he has revolutionised the business of pornography consumption by allowing the free viewing of pornographic video clips, while being paid for advertising pay-for-view pornographic sites. His success has led to claims that he has crippled the traditional porn industry.
In December 2012, he was extradited from Belgium to Germany on suspicion of tax evasion on the estimated £60 million annual profits his company allegedly makes. Thylmann did not contest the extradition order.

[nysprod]

Good question and whether by design or luck, here's what happened. Just a little side comment, CEO of the company was arrested in Belgium last month on tax fraud, there are strong rumours that the Manwin has been involved in some sort of nefarious business and nobody knows where the supposed $100M that they've spent aquiring sites came from.

Manwin buys tube sites and propigates free content from all niches via user uploaded content (so within the law despite the content being stolen). Industry starts to suffer and some paysites are acquired by Manwin cheaper than they would have been a few years previously, over the years these include Brazzers, Twisty's, Reality Kings, Digital Playground and even the web arm of Playboy.
Manwin builds these websites and using partly traffic from their stolen content tube sites, converts traffic from them (they also disallow THEIR content to be shown on the tube sites). The end game clearly would be to continue to buy good sites or programs.

Quite a business plan, but I'm not sure what rational person would ever believe it could work prior to implementing it.

It's like me spending all kinds of money to set up stores that will give food away for free and when the "paystores" lose value due to having less paying customers, I buy them on the cheap. Then, while continuing to run stores that give food away, I'm depending on the people who are getting free food to then come to my "paystore" and spend their money on what they're already getting for free.

Then there's this bit of rubbish: "Germany's Focus magazine claimed that he has revolutionised the business of pornography consumption by allowing the free viewing of pornographic video clips, while being paid for advertising pay-for-view pornographic sites. His success has led to claims that he has crippled the traditional porn industry."

So let me get this straight...crippled paysites who are losing business due to the free sites actually PAY for advertising on the free sites, expecting their former customers will come back and pay them for content?

Something is missing here...no idea what, but something definitely is.

[BellaBellucci]

Quite a business plan, but I'm not sure what rational person would ever believe it could work prior to implementing it.

It's like me spending all kinds of money to set up stores that will give food away for free and when the "paystores" lose value due to having less paying customers, I buy them on the cheap. Then, while continuing to run stores that give food away, I'm depending on the people who are getting free food to then come to my "paystore" and spend their money on what they're already getting for free.

And this actually works?

Remember, not all of the stores have the same items. They're giving away content on which they can't make a profit to sell that which they can.

~BB~

[nysprod]

Remember, not all of the stores have the same items. They're giving away content on which they can't make a profit to sell that which they can.

~BB~

So what you're saying is that 100's of millions of dollars are being wagered on the guess of which gangbang scene will make money and which will not?

No, that's not the answer.

And the reason that no paysite ever thought about setting up their own freesite in order to drive traffic to their paysite is...what?

[LibertyHarkness]

the big tube sites generate millions of dollars in advertising per year ... they simply sell advertising not porn ... its all about advertising .