X-critic also against Transsexuals

[loveboof]

For the record, I don't work for Seanchai; nor do i particularly need shoots with his company (so no, he has no hold over me on that issue either).

That being said I don't seen an issue here; I'm not outraged. His company's board, so we play by their rules. Don't like it - start your own forum. .

Super weak sauce Wendy! Like way too weak - tastes like toilet water to me.

I had you pegged higher than that...

[LibertyHarkness]

this thread keeps on going and going ... why not just lock the dam thing .. its moved off topic now anyway .

[GroobySteven]

I could do that. Or you guys could just be more reasonable in your moderation!

I wouldn't have a problem with your removal of posts or threads (or members) if you were just transparent about it and let us, as a community, know what you're doing.

It feels inherently underhanded when you swipe away a members post just because you dont like it. I accept that he has been very critical of your business - and could well have crossed the line a few times, but the bulk of his comments have been fine.

Which is why the bulk of his comments have been left - and answered.
There is transparancy, read the rules it's there - and furthermore, the management has the ability to delete. Generally, in criticism I'll prefer to answer but when it turns into harrassment especially as I've answered his points in this post, then I'm going to simply delete it. I'd asked him earlier in the postings to give it a rest and move on.
I think the moderation is very reasonable - many forums and moderators wouldn't even allow this line of questioning.

[Willie Escalade]

this thread keeps on going and going ... why not just lock the dam thing .. its moved off topic now anyway .

This fellow Libertron seconds that...!

[GroobySteven]

this thread keeps on going and going ... why not just lock the dam thing .. its moved off topic now anyway .

There you go ... if Libby owned this forum, she'd lock it and let it fall. That would be her choice of moderation. Many others would have simply deleted it and not bothered answering.

[LibertyHarkness]

to right ... on some of the straight forums i am on , when a thread goes completely off the rails it just gets locked ..and its done with ..

all that is happening here is people repeating themselves over and over ... and the OP topic of it about Xcritic has been long left in the ashes now ..

Just dont see the point in the thread now .. if the certain posters here want to go tit for tat why not take it private messages

[GroobySteven]

Just dont see the point in the thread now .. if the certain posters here want to go tit for tat why not take it private messages

There is no money in private messages.

[loveboof]

There you go ... if Libby owned this forum, she'd lock it and let it fall. That would be her choice of moderation. Many others would have simply deleted it and not bothered answering.

Do whatever you want to do.

I assume by the fact that none of my messages have been deleted they have been deemed okay for this discussion...

Let Krissy reply to me, then lock it. (Give her the last say)

[Edit:]

Which is why the bulk of his comments have been left - and answered.

I meant the bulk of the comments which were removed...

[GroobyKrissy]

FFS Krissy, I haven't edited anything to be more 'menacing'. Let's face it, your posts are a sprawling mass of hysterical BS and pointless information. If I want to reply to specific things you have said, it is just clearer if I break your Leviathan comments down into smaller, relevant sections.

Occasionally there has been a further context to your words, but in those instances that context has been irrelevant imo - like my post where I am just highlighting some of the times I thought you were being rude or condescending... (whatever the context is, that is my opinion of your attitude! You cannot tell me it's incorrect.)


Out of the two of us, honestly, which one seems to fit this description better?


I said myself that I am arrogant. You know in that nice level message I sent to you It was an irenic (not a typo - look it up if you're unsure) attempt at diffusing our situation.

This thread has not been about 'exposing you'. If anything like that has happened, you have done it yourself.

I think our first interaction on this site was in the Jamie French begging for aid thread, where I stood up for you against a few arseholes who were being unreasonable. In this instance, I was helping Franklin out because the whole Groobiverse was turing out in force to put him down. You have already admitted to being unnecessarily harsh to Franklin in this thread - so whether you realise it or not, you agree with my rationale for contributing to this thread.


After my first interjection into this thread, I went away for a while. When I came back there were an additional ten pages. I read them. The overwhelming impression I got was that you (particularly you) were being consistently rude or condescending to just about everyone!

This was my impression - you cannot tell me it is wrong, because I am telling you how I felt.


Krissy, at this stage, I am just replying to your comments.


Again, I wasn't wrong Krissy. How could you be right (and me wrong) about my own feelings?

I showed you countless examples of your rude or obnoxious attitude, and you are still somehow arguing with me. Let me be ultra clear about this:

I have found you to be consistently rude and condescending in this thread.

What else can you say to that?


Part of my point I have once again attempted to explain above.

I don't believe you can tell a TV from TS by looks alone - I was the first person in this thread to say it was a grey area. However, I also don't think that matters because Seanchai has told us that he has featured TV's on his websites! From there arises the issue of whether it is right to (possibly inadvertently) mislead the consumers about what they are viewing.

Franklin has a right to express his opinions - and imo he is not always right, but he is not always wrong.

So, I agree with others that this is a VERY pointless argument to have, and as I stated last night, it is now arguing for the sake of arguing. So, I will say this, leave it here and address your point in the next post.

1. You have staged a COMPLETELY personal attack on me, which by your own admission TWO THIRDS of which was incorrect (I was attacked first). As of yet, you have not apologized, retracted, or otherwise been decent enough to acknowledge that. EDITING A QUOTE BASED ON YOUR OPINION OF WHAT IS RELEVANT IS SHADY, especially without acknowledging it [(...) is your acknowledgement that you edited out the context of a quote]?

2. I am not whining about anything nor am I arguing with you. I am RESPONDING to YOUR attacks. I DID NOT first bring up the topic about being condescending/rude at all... YOU DID. You're so good about checking the record... when it is convenient to you. You found it somehow pertinent to the discussion and injected it into it. So to say that I am now whining because I have simply responded? C'mon now. That is completely, intellectually dishonest.

3. You're not just replying to my comments.... YOU STARTED THIS LINE OF COMMENTS about who is condescending / rude and for what reason. It is I who am replying to yours. Again. Be intellectually honest about the part you have played in this.

4. YOU WERE WRONG. Your epic post assertion is that I was condescending / rude to people FIRST. Over HALF of that post dealt with ONE person, who I conceded. THE OTHER 2/3 of your post dealt with TWO PEOPLE. Who you were WRONG ABOUT... THEY THREW THE FIRST PUNCH.

5. WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK? I have found you consistently rude and condescending in this thread as well... and yet, I still answer your posts HONESTLY and without EDITING THEM to make myself look better. That is your right to think that way... it is mine to think that way as well.

6. YOU ARE BLIND TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS. As I stated earlier, you're acting like I am the ONLY ONE here being what you call condescending / rude. THAT IS A JOKE. You are basically stating that I should just let others walk all over me and respond with, "Please sir, may I have some more?" THAT IS A JOKE. To those who have asked me simple questions, I have given simple answers (at least I thought... GENETIC???). To those who have given insult, I have returned. To those who have spoken condescendingly to me, I have returned that sentiment. I already conceded that two wrongs don't make a right, but in debate, if you let the other person just simply attack you negatively without responding... you have already lost.

Anyway, those are my last words on the matter. I will, of course read any reply you have but seriously... this is a stupid argument and not pertinent to the points at all. Especially when I have already conceded a large part of what you're saying. So on to your actual point.

[loveboof]

Let Krissy reply to me, then lock it. (Give her the last say)

Cool. So now we're done...