Male student gang raped by muslim youth

[Wanderer1]

You are i are, largely in agreement, Jericho.
But Islamism is not islam... just a little tweak. It's a political idea derived from the faith.
This is not the thread for a detailed discussion of whether islam is, in itself, a religion of peace. I'm not so sure it can be described quite so simply.
But you are correct - the religious identity of the rapists here really is irrelevent.

And tragicomedy is clearly an ignorant and deeply ill informed person.

yes and no, Islamism is NOT Islam to me too. I have had good Muslim friends and co-workers since young adulthood (1980). However, the `moderates' must speak up! Denouncing this selfish sect(s) of Islam. This can be compared to Christians having a selfish (and associated violence and hate) interpretation of the Bible, of which can be seen in neo-nazis, et al. We, in the West cannot just `let them be'.

[yodajazz]

yes and no, Islamism is NOT Islam to me too. I have had good Muslim friends and co-workers since young adulthood (1980). However, the `moderates' must speak up! Denouncing this selfish sect(s) of Islam. This can be compared to Christians having a selfish (and associated violence and hate) interpretation of the Bible, of which can be seen in neo-nazis, et al. We, in the West cannot just `let them be'.

How do you or I know, who is speaking up, or who isn't? Right after 9/11 a video was shown on television with what looked to be 7-8 Arabs (assumed to be Muslim) looking people celebrating. We dont know in reality that they were even celebrating the attack on the Twin Towers. More people remember that video than remember that 100,000 people in Tehran who gathered for a candlelight vigil in support of the US victims. And some things are so obvious we should know they are not supported by religious doctrine. No one has mentioned the religious affiliation of the recent school shooter. Would a Muslim want to live in the US, if he believed that people should be stoned to death for adultery? One thing you can do is to do some research for yourself. For example you could ask a question in Google and view the responses from knowledgeable scholars. When I did this, I found documentation for about everything thing good, I believed had to be true in the Koran. An important fact to understand, is that Sunni Islam does not have a centralized leadership, that could speak out publicly on issues, I'm told. Given the corporate ownership of US media, we need to be critical of the quality of news we receive, if we value a greater truth.

[tragicomedy]

It's interesting to read this thread and see to what lengths certain well-meaning multiculturalists will go to defend the indefensible.

Especially those coming from the UK. Quite a bunch of zealots.

[yodajazz]

It's interesting to read this thread and see to what lengths certain well-meaning multiculturalists will go to defend the indefensible.

Especially those coming from the UK. Quite a bunch of zealots.

Not certain, exactly what you say others were defending. No one here has defended rape, that I remember. So it's has to be the Muslim youth part. Am I right?

[Prospero]

Yoda - ill advised to respond to this palpable racist. i did but thought better of it.

[hippifried]

So... If you grow red, white, & blue mold in the same petri dish, does that make you a "multiculturalist"?

[tragicomedy]

Yoda - ill advised to respond to this palpable racist. i did but thought better of it.

Oh, kind of like the fool who said I pulled the link from a White supremacist website but turned out to be completely wrong?

You are such a typical, nasty little reactionary.

Not only that, but so passive agressive. It's good that you deleted your posts because you were scared of the wrong reaction. Then you "advise" people not to reply.

What a coward you are, to put that on top of being wrong and unable to defend your disgusting arguments.

[tragicomedy]

Yoda - ill advised to respond to this palpable racist. i did but thought better of it.

So... If you grow red, white, & blue mold in the same petri dish, does that make you a "multiculturalist"?

Or a petriot...

[trish]

What's a petriot?

[robertlouis]

What's a petriot?

Dunno, but petriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.