Andrej Pejic

[GrimFusion]

Talk about respect look at my thread all the insults you seem to be an unfair dickhead !!!

When have you ever posted anything around here that should deserve you respect? You outta work on that.

[Merkurie]

The same, I guess, would apply to Stav Strashko and a whole host of so-called fem male models....

Yep. Stav will be a scary queen in about 20 years. Or he will butch up like most of the other "pretty boys" do.

However, now that the Benjamin standards seem to be passe' perhaps fem guys may choose HRT to retain their femininity, depending on how important it is to them.

Femme bois are not really that popular with gay men, so its interesting how these threads tend to evolve into gay slagging.

[amberskyi]

Yep. Stav will be a scary queen in about 20 years. Or he will butch up like most of the other "pretty boys" do.

However, now that the Benjamin standards seem to be passe' perhaps fem guys may choose HRT to retain their femininity, depending on how important it is to them.

Femme bois are not really that popular with gay men, so its interesting how these threads tend to evolve into gay slagging.

lol and how would you know that? i know quite a few fem boys and they have no problem attracting other gay men.who do you think they would attract? staright men lol.

[Merkurie]

Attract straight men?
Surely not.

[amberskyi]

Attract straight men?
Surely not.

thats the point im making hun lol

[bottomXOslave]

Pretend that the fashion industry doesn't call the shots for you personally and you can actually see someone and be attracted to that person on your own. I don't know Andrej and I'll never meet him. I don't care if he emulates anyone else or if I should compare him with anyone from the past, present or future. I could give two shits if someone wants to find a way to diminish him or find a reason to "not hold him in adulation". I have no problem liking Andrej Pejic. He is beautiful. I like thinking about how beautiful he is. I don't worry about if I like boys or girls. He transcends all that bullshit.

Your a fem boy , twink / cd / into men / unfinish transitioned ts lover awwww

[GrimFusion]

Your a fem boy , twink / cd / into men / unfinish transitioned ts lover awwww

...and you're a judgmental dolt. Your point? Don't answer that. You don't have a point to make.

[JenniferParisHusband]

Lol @ y'all calling him flamingly gay in a thread dedicated to a boy in a dress.

Amber, I don't know if you'd been following his posts around here. He tends to call people like Dan, gay, as an insult. Not just here, other posts as well. I'm not calling him that as an insult to him, it's to point out the fact that he is using it as a slur, when he himself is in fact begging men to plug him, half of his posts are stereotypically gay. It is his attack on others when it is clearly him who is insulted by who he is. Psychologists call it transferance. And it's seperate from someone liking Andrej Pejic. That's a really simplistic way to look at it.

The greater argument, which I've seen on this site way too many times to argue over here, is this whole notion of "a boy in a dress" and whether or not someone is gay for liking someone like you. There are men on here who would make the exact same argument about you. I believe FreddieGomez has about others on here. Amber, are you a boy in a dress? I don't think so, and I would never call you that. Yet, you do have a penis, and wear dresses. Do you see yourself as a woman or a boy in a dress? I'm guessing not. I'm guessing you aren't wearing a bra for giggles or because someone is paying you to do so. I'm thinking its because there's something inside of you that identifies yourself and female. Do you really and truly believe that all the men on here who are interested in you sexually want to go home and watch gay porn, or pick up guys on the side? There's a scale to things that isn't black and white on here. When does someone just stop being a guy who is fem and become a trannsexual? Most of the women on here can't give a consistent answer to it. If a woman in transition doesn't have her implants, is she just a gay guy in a dress?

The greater point to this, with very few exceptions that I've seen among the guys, there's a greater femine quality that has to be present. It can't just be a guy in a skirt, otherwise there'd be a thousand Braveheart posts dedicated to Mel Gibson. That Prince Flackoo guy, Ben likes him and posts a lot of photos, Ben is unique on here among the people I've seen. and that's cool. If someone went after Ben like that, I'd stand up and defend Ben too. But I think Ben is the exception. I lurked for many a year before taking a more active role on here. You don't see many other guys posting Flackoo. He doesn't have that fem quality. Andrej has it, he may not identify himself that way, but he gives it off and certainly trades on his ability to do so. It doesn't matter what Pejic thinks, it's what the person viewing him thinks. That is what I'd say, and I stand by this, 99% of the men on here who do appreciate him, like about him. It's why I say, and stand by the fact, that the overwhelming majority of men on here identify as straight. They don't want a male porn star, they want something that has that female quality.

So go ahead and laugh if you want. But that idiot calling Dan gay is like someone calling you a guy in a dress. It was meant to be mean, a slur, and it was meant to offend. And if someone on here ever did that to you, I'd take offense at that too and tee off and the jerk just as I did here. As much as the petty arguments on here seem to always come to the surface, the fact is that this is a community where we support each other because of a common thing that most of the people outside of here look down on with scorn and shame. If an idiot is going to come in here and spread hate, I don't want him here. That's what Bottom did. I stand my decision to rip him a new one.

[JenniferParisHusband]

Oh, and I put him on the ignore list. I suggest the rest of you do the same.

[GrimFusion]

Amber, I don't know if you'd been following his posts around here. He tends to call people like Dan, gay, as an insult. Not just here, other posts as well. I'm not calling him that as an insult to him, it's to point out the fact that he is using it as a slur, when he himself is in fact begging men to plug him, half of his posts are stereotypically gay. It is his attack on others when it is clearly him who is insulted by who he is. Psychologists call it transferance. And it's seperate from someone liking Andrej Pejic. That's a really simplistic way to look at it.

The greater argument, which I've seen on this site way too many times to argue over here, is this whole notion of "a boy in a dress" and whether or not someone is gay for liking someone like you. There are men on here who would make the exact same argument about you. I believe FreddieGomez has about others on here. Amber, are you a boy in a dress? I don't think so, and I would never call you that. Yet, you do have a penis, and wear dresses. Do you see yourself as a woman or a boy in a dress? I'm guessing not. I'm guessing you aren't wearing a bra for giggles or because someone is paying you to do so. I'm thinking its because there's something inside of you that identifies yourself and female. Do you really and truly believe that all the men on here who are interested in you sexually want to go home and watch gay porn, or pick up guys on the side? There's a scale to things that isn't black and white on here. When does someone just stop being a guy who is fem and become a trannsexual? Most of the women on here can't give a consistent answer to it. If a woman in transition doesn't have her implants, is she just a gay guy in a dress?

The greater point to this, with very few exceptions that I've seen among the guys, there's a greater femine quality that has to be present. It can't just be a guy in a skirt, otherwise there'd be a thousand Braveheart posts dedicated to Mel Gibson. That Prince Flackoo guy, Ben likes him and posts a lot of photos, Ben is unique on here among the people I've seen. and that's cool. If someone went after Ben like that, I'd stand up and defend Ben too. But I think Ben is the exception. I lurked for many a year before taking a more active role on here. You don't see many other guys posting Flackoo. He doesn't have that fem quality. Andrej has it, he may not identify himself that way, but he gives it off and certainly trades on his ability to do so. It doesn't matter what Pejic thinks, it's what the person viewing him thinks. That is what I'd say, and I stand by this, 99% of the men on here who do appreciate him, like about him. It's why I say, and stand by the fact, that the overwhelming majority of men on here identify as straight. They don't want a male porn star, they want something that has that female quality.

So go ahead and laugh if you want. But that idiot calling Dan gay is like someone calling you a guy in a dress. It was meant to be mean, a slur, and it was meant to offend. And if someone on here ever did that to you, I'd take offense at that too and tee off and the jerk just as I did here. As much as the petty arguments on here seem to always come to the surface, the fact is that this is a community where we support each other because of a common thing that most of the people outside of here look down on with scorn and shame. If an idiot is going to come in here and spread hate, I don't want him here. That's what Bottom did. I stand my decision to rip him a new one.

I don't mean to be rude, and I do have mad respect for you man, but;
Dur, hur, hur! Hello, Captain Obvious.

The only thing I don't really agree with is that gender assumption should be 100% up to you. If Andre considers himself a man, I doubt he'd appreciate other dudes calling him a chick. I'm sure that's something he's grown a bit accustomed to, but what he'll put up with and what he prefers are likely two different things.