17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[Donkey]

But race did play a factor, I remember some recordings of Zimmerman racial profiling the black kid. So if It's not about race, then we kinda have to ask what then?

You are a prime example of how the media has "poisoned the well" by not only attempting to try this case in the media, but doing so in an extremely fraudulent and unethical manner.

Those recordings that you remember were intentionally, fraudulently edited by NBC News. NBC later fired a producer over the issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1414200.html

[trish]

Poison the well? If it were not for the media there wouldn't be a trial; i.e. there'd be no well to poison!

[Queens Guy]

The system in England and Wales is certainly better for those who were wrongfully accused of a crime

That is debatable -before a trial, the press can report as much sensational detail as they can, some go as far to the edge as they can, and in the process ruin the reputations of innocent people who have been wrongly accused and may not even be charged. In Bristol a few years ago, the landlord of a house in which a young woman was murdered was effectively accused by the tabloids of being the murderer -he had been questioned by police and the press leapt on his 'eccentric' appearance -he had fluffy blueish hair, had been a teacher of English at the nearby and prestigious Clifton College -but eventually he was not charged by the police and the press were exposed as over-zealous and the man sued them, and received substantial damages. The Leveson Enquiry currently taking place is investigating the various methods the press use to access information for their stories -bribing the police to access private data, using private detectives to hack into phones and computers -yes, once a trial begins the coverage has to report it to the letter, which is why when you look back innocence looks betrayed, and that doesn't cover those convicted who spent years in prison for crimes they did not commit -we may have laws preventing the kind of media coverage we have seen with Zimmerman over there, but our system is far from ideal.

Stavros, I didn't mean it was good, or fair. I just meant it was better than it is here in the U.S. All of that stuff can be done here, too. And it doesn't get any better once the trial starts.

And it's not just the tabloids over here. It's the supposedly 'respectable' media over here. NBC/MSNBC, ABC, and CNN have been the offenders in this shooting.

[buttslinger]

Hey Sean Hannity!
If I'm ever up on murder charges....???
Don't Help Me!!!!

[EvonRose]

You are a prime example of how the media has "poisoned the well" by not only attempting to try this case in the media, but doing so in an extremely fraudulent and unethical manner.

Those recordings that you remember were intentionally, fraudulently edited by NBC News. NBC later fired a producer over the issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1414200.html

But i don't think when the cops told him to leave the kid alone was edited, or the fact that Trayvon really didn't have anything on him to even be a threat, or that that Zimmerman even had the right to carry a gun or shoot as a neighborhood watch for the matter. It was irresponsible, negligent, and still murder at the end of the day regardless if you believe it to be race issue or not.

[Donkey]

But i don't think when the cops told him to leave the kid alone was edited, or the fact that Trayvon really didn't have anything on him to even be a threat, or that that Zimmerman even had the right to carry a gun or shoot as a neighborhood watch for the matter. It was irresponsible, negligent, and still murder at the end of the day regardless if you believe it to be race issue or not.

Your comments are exactly why it so dangerous to try a case like this in the court of public opinion. You have almost no knowledge of the facts of the case or, more importantly, the law.

1. Listen to the call. The police did not tell Zimmerman to leave Martin alone. But, even if they had, it does not change the facts of the case. It's a moot issue.
2. Martin became a threat the moment he assaulted Zimmerman.
3. As an American, Zimmerman absolutely had the right, as a licensee, to carry his gun. He also had the right to use it, of course.
4. Please learn what constitutes murder in the US judicial system.

[EvonRose]

Your comments are exactly why it so dangerous to try a case like this in the court of public opinion. You have almost no knowledge of the facts of the case or, more importantly, the law.

1. Listen to the call. The police did not tell Zimmerman to leave Martin alone. But, even if they had, it does not change the facts of the case. It's a moot issue.
2. Martin became a threat the moment he assaulted Zimmerman.
3. As an American, Zimmerman absolutely had the right, as a licensee, to carry his gun. He also had the right to use it, of course.
4. Please learn what constitutes murder in the US judicial system.

Wait hold on...they can't even prove trayvon even hit him, Zimmerman just claimed that, there as absolutely no proof on trayvons body of him hitting Zimmerman. Why would you walk up to a kid with the intention of a violent altercation and then shoot an unarmed kid? Do you know everything about the case? It's okay if we don't i don't think we all know 100 percent. However I'm looking at the points against Zimmerman.

Answer this....

Why or how was trayvon ever a threat? Did he have gun? or did he break into a house or rob the candy store he bought the candy from? Or assaulted anyone without cause? Or rape someone? or vandalized?

So why then was he shot? Zimmerman has been in the military I'm sorry but there is a way to injure someone without actually killing them IF trayvon really was assaulting him. He is trained better than that I'm sure. Looking at probability the military trained man would have easily restrained or subdues the skinny kid down. Sorry but I don't agree, Zimmerman is very much guilty of murder or at least 2nd degree...

[Queens Guy]

Wait hold on...they can't even prove trayvon even hit him, Zimmerman just claimed that, there as absolutely no proof on trayvons body of him hitting Zimmerman. Why would you walk up to a kid with the intention of a violent altercation and then shoot an unarmed kid? Do you know everything about the case? It's okay if we don't i don't think we all know 100 percent. However I'm looking at the points against Zimmerman.

Answer this....

Why or how was trayvon ever a threat? Did he have gun? or did he break into a house or rob the candy store he bought the candy from? Or assaulted anyone without cause? Or rape someone? or vandalized?

So why then was he shot? Zimmerman has been in the military I'm sorry but there is a way to injure someone without actually killing them IF trayvon really was assaulting him. He is trained better than that I'm sure. Looking at probability the military trained man would have easily restrained or subdues the skinny kid down. Sorry but I don't agree, Zimmerman is very much guilty of murder or at least 2nd degree...

George Zimmerman may have indeed committed a crime that night, but. . .

1. The autopsy report showed injuries to Trayvon's knuckles. Pictures and a medical report document injuries to the back of Zimmerman's head. Do you think Zimmerman beat himself up?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...-his-knuckles/

2. I've never heard that George Zimmerman was in the military. His father and grandfather were. Where did you read GZ was in the military?

[Donkey]

Evon, you make one factually incorrect statement after another about this case. Please put your emotions aside and take an objective look at the facts of the case, as well as the US laws that will be applicable to this case.

[EvonRose]

George Zimmerman may have indeed committed a crime that night, but. . .

1. The autopsy report showed injuries to Trayvon's knuckles. Pictures and a medical report document injuries to the back of Zimmerman's head. Do you think Zimmerman beat himself up?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...-his-knuckles/

2. I've never heard that George Zimmerman was in the military. His father and grandfather were. Where did you read GZ was in the military?

Wasn't it also stated in reports that zimmerman followed trayvon with a vehicle and then got off and chased after him? If Trayvon punched Zimmerman is it possible to think that Trayvon may have felt threatened with an adult male coming after him when he had no clue what was going on, He was just staying at his dad'd fiancee's house in the neighborhood. What would you do if a man just chased after you for no reason, isn't that threatening and unsettling? especially for a kid walking alone?