The AIDS epidemic: Beginning of the end?

[LibertyHarkness]

maybe they will test it on pigs mwuahahahah

[Prospero]

A thought has occasionally occured to me. I wonder how many of the girls who post here and the guys are actually HIV positive and know their status and yet carry on working/playing.

Guys - would you see a girl who you knew to be HIV positive providing you played safe?

And girls if you knew a potential client was HIV positive would you still have sex - including oral - with him? Do any men contact you and say they are positive?

[danthepoetman]

its just a fact .. where money is to be made money will be made, its human nature unfortunately, much like its human nature to fuck bareback, human nature to fight each other .....

They did for other diseases. They will indeed make sure to squeeze tons of dough out of this. But my hunch is, it will be through government help in the western world, and therefore through our pockets with such mediation… We will pay one way or the other and they will make their bread every bit as much.

Good questions, Prospero. Not much chances to get answers though…

[Quiet Reflections]

maybe they will test it on pigs mwuahahahah

Don't fuck with my bacon! It would be tested on rats,monkeys,possibly sharks and africans before we ever see it. in that order

[LibertyHarkness]

why shouldnt you keep on working/playing if your hiv positve ? if your honest about your status upfront and protect yourself/others accordingly then i see no problem with it ...

I hav been asked this before would i still do porn if i was hiv .. i say yes i would , would just mean a change on how you work with people, and the people you work with ..i.e more solo stuff and working with other HIV performers i guess ..

As for escorting i view all clients as being hiv ..

[danthepoetman]

why shouldnt you keep on working/playing if your hiv positve ? if your honest about your status upfront and protect yourself/others accordingly then i see no problem with it ...

I hav been asked this before would i still do porn if i was hiv .. i say yes i would , would just mean a change on how you work with people, and the people you work with ..i.e more solo stuff and working with other HIV performers i guess ..

As for escorting i view all clients as being hiv ..

Understandably. But would other performers still work with you, Libby. Do you know of such cases (without naming anyone) ?

[Prospero]

Well since I asked "good questions" my response would be.

if I knew I was positive i would continue to play - but only in 100 per cent safety (ie i already ensure no anal is bareback either way - but would also make sure the girls didn't suck me bareback either).

The same would apply the other way around. Liberty says she assumes all customers are positive. I virtually assume the same with the girls - though I do have bareback oral sex, either way, which i would discontinue if the bug was present.

[Quiet Reflections]

there are also dating sites for people with all manner of diseases so it is also possible for one to go that route if necessary .

[danthepoetman]

Anyways, I’m sure containment is somewhat on sight. The disease is still relatively young, in terms of medical history. Progress has been steady and pretty fast. It’s never as fast as we which it was, but I tend to be optimistic. They’ll win over this as they have over others.

I remember, not such a long time ago, some religious figures insisting it was a punishment from God… People we’re dying so miserably and in such solitude, such abandonment. We’ve traveled a long way since then.

[sunairco]

I hate to sound cynical too. But I think that the money to be made from treatment and pharma profits only scratches the surface of reality. Entire structures have been formed during the past 30 years built on this. From the fundraiser on the street, professional coordinators, administrators, society benefit oranization, shit, the list can go on for pages until you get to the actual researchers and epidemiologists. Factor in the grants and endowments left from estates. There's an entire, vertically integated monolith built on the backs of poor souls that have AIDs that's matured and sunk deep roots much like the Cancer societies and other "charitable" diseases. Only a small percentage of this trickles down to research, while the rest feeds the machine. Do you think for one moment everybody is going to say, "let's get a vaccine out and this over with"? One fell swoop, a lifetime's career of a legion of infrastructure is going to come crashing down and they all are going to go home smiling and say "mission accomplished"? How long has cancer research, MDS research, you name it is going to go on if it affects just a minor portion of the population that over a lifetime billions can be milked in their name and cause? Then there's another issue. While sustainable birthrate is dropping in the western world, the third world is exponentially exploding in population. You don't think that the first world doesn't take notice of that and it's future implications? You don't think there's a contingent of nation-state politicians and futurists pondering the the scarcity of resources amid a growing third world? Wouldn't it be to their advantage to let something like AID's run it's natural course among the worthless and unproductive third world that's multiplying like vermin in their minds? I'm no conspricist and don't subscribe to any of that horseshit. But given history, there's no question that AID's devestation of Africa and the elements of the third world is looked upon as a natural reset of the balance by selective depopulation simply by looking the other way and not doing anything about it. We already seen that on a micro scale under Reagan here in the states by letting God take care of the "gay problem". Sure, maybe in a hundred years the battle will be won as long as the snail's pace can be maintained and sucessive populations wither away and become lost to history. Besides, they were worthless anyways.

Had this been a high contagion pandemic that was wiping out the elite and poised to depopulate the first world leaving the ferral classes and third world untouched to inherit the earth. Something would have happened a long time ago shortly after the human genome was first mapped.

Sorry, I've been on this earth too long to believe in the good of humanity.