17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[jamesedwards]

QueensGuy and remember, Zimmerman wanted so bad, he was compelled to catch someone, and I know you heard the tape, what did he say? "THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY", he wanted to catch Trayvon, he was the predator not Trayvon.

[zulusierra]

The Caucasians you see in Israel are not the real Hebrews, they are convert Jews, and the Hebrews are a bloodline so you really can't convert into a bloodline.
The term white is an identity status made up by Caucasians in the 1900's, before Caucasians came here they were called Christians!!! I have not see a Caucasian person ever in my life complexion the color of white, I mean like white snow!!!

So if I convert to Judaism and move to Israel you wouldn't consider me a Jew?

The way my Genetics professor explained it to us, "race" isn't a biological or scientific term. It's political.

Now certain groups of peoples have more statistically frequent allele patterns. That not "race" though.

Not once while earning my Bachelors degree in Biology did race come up.

The only time race was brought up in the curriculum was in Philosophy (more specifically political phil and phil of law).

That's called a clue.

As the father of a mixed race son (his mother is black) all this obsession with race sometimes bums me out despite my best efforts not to let others ignorance effect my mood.

I have to admit that if I was a black American I might find it easy to be bitter and resentful towards whites too, though. Historically speaking, the U.S. government has had a policy of treating large groups of people as somewhat less than human.

[jamesedwards]

On the real, they need to make a new law where neighborhood watch people can not engage at all nor carry weapons of no kind, this shouldn't just be a rule, if it's a law they violate it they go to jail. Trayvon could be the first African descent person in the USA a law is made after. The Trayvon law. Hell they have one named after an animal (cat), the Buster law. This would solve a lot of future problems.

[natina]

Girlfriend: Trayvon Martin was followed




WPLG/CNN|Added on March 21, 2012Trayvon's girlfriend: the neighborhood watch captain accused of shooting Martin was following him, might have pushed him.


http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...phone.wplg-cnn

you are welcome!

A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv

A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv


Originally Posted by natina Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin, pursued him, frightened him, confronted him then shot him during a struggle, prosecutors alleged Thursday.

That's what the probable-cause affidavit filed Thursday by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey reveals. It is the first look at the criminal case that prosecutors plan to mount against Zimmerman.


The account is strikingly similar to the story that Trayvon's parents, the family's attorneys and civil-rights leaders have told for weeks — that Trayvon was an innocent victim hunted down and killed because he was black.

Herr found the affidavit legally sufficient to establish probable cause and ordered Zimmerman to appear for arraignment — when defendants formally enter a plea — on May 29 before Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler.

But the probable-cause affidavit, prepared by two investigators in her office, spelled out the bare bones of her case.

To Trayvon, it says, Zimmerman was a scary man, following him for some unknown reason. To Zimmerman, Trayvon was someone who was about to commit a crime, "a f------ punk," the affidavit said.

The affidavit offered evidence the state's position on three key points:

•"Zimmerman confronted Martin," it says, an apparent contradiction of Zimmerman's version of events.

•The state will argue that the voice heard crying for help in the background of one 911 call is Trayvon's. According to the affidavit, Trayvon's mother listened to the recording and identified the voice as her son's.

•State investigators will rely on the testimony of a friend of Trayvon's who told them she talked to the teenager on the phone in the lead-up to the shooting and heard the confrontation.

Based on the description, she appears to be the girl described by Martin family attorneys as his girlfriend.

When interviewed by state investigators, "The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why," the affidavit said.

Trayvon tried to run home, the affidavit says, but Zimmerman ignored the advice of a police dispatcher and continued pursuing him on foot.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-show-accident


Originally Posted by natina

A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv


Here's a Mother's Day message from Sabrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin, made in partnership with "Second Chance on Shoot First" -- an organization which combats laws, such as Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, that encourage nervous gun owners to shoot in haste and repent at leisure.
Watch the video AFTER THE JUMP, and pay a visit to Second Chance on Shoot First, which allows American visitors to see where their states stand on Stand Your Ground, and provides links to the appropriate state webpages so visitors can tell their governments how they feel about it.



http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv

Originally Posted by natina ZIMMMERMAN STATED "they always get away" argument for racial profiling

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rvers-say?lite

Criminally Negligent Homicide





(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html



What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.



Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:



-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator



-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program



-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement




Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.



He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.





In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,



or the firing of the gun.



Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.



If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...







then he's guilty under the law

Originally Posted by natina Read more: http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/03/zi...#ixzz1unjLoUue

George Zimmerman Arrested! Father A Judge; Above The Law

April 11th, 2012 Update:
George Zimmerman was arrested Wednesday on a charge of second degree murder in the death of 17 year old Trayvon Martin. According to his attorney, a warrant for his arrest was declared and he is now in the custody of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
The Murder could have been prevented: More expected actions

The public is demanding in addition to his arrest, more severe investigative and disciplinary actions into the obvious laxity and complicity in the Florida police department. The extreme delay it took in bringing a most glaring criminal charge elucidates a deficit in department conduct.
<B>Late March, the Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte had said that so many people complained at the city commission meeting about Sanford officers, the city asked the Department of Justice to step in.

“I am now in the process of talking with the Department of Justice and instituting a mechanism whereby citizens that have concerns or complaints about the Sanford Police Department can have their concerns heard and investigated by an independent agency,” Bonaparte said.

</B>
Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Stepped down temporarily earlier. Bonaparte stands behind in image

Police criminal negligence?

There were obvious lapses in judgement and execution of police protocol favorable to this judge’s son that in the first place allowed this dangerous criminal with past records of violence against police, carry a concealed weapon, hunt his neighbors- which the police were well aware of- culminating in his- Zimmermans murder of Trayvon. And more severe abnormalities in the department that allowed his release from custody after the crime, even though ‘unnecessary man slaughter’ had been written on his folder.
Further, the declaration of Trayvon ‘missing’ for three days while his family searched for him, when the police had his personal information as is seen in the image above, from the day of the murder, raises the instance of ‘aiding and abetting and concealing’ murder within the department.
March 27th, 2012; Updated March 29th {Video of Zimmerman arriving at police precinct}
George Zimmerman Arrested Thrice! Father A Judge; Above The Law

NewsRescue- That George Zimmerman is yet eluding justice defies all logic and sets dangerous precedence in the United States- that individuals of all races with prior arrests for dangerous activity including violently resisting arrest- beating up the arresting officer- can posses a concealed weapon, in civilian clothes, advance toward anyone they deem suspicious and shoot dead that individual if he is combative or resistant to their advance.
George Zimmerman’s white father, Judge Robert J. Zimmerman as quoted below, described George as a ‘Spanish speaking minority’, painting him as neither Jewish, nor white. Well, being Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia must then be a religion and not a heritage, and being white must only be matrilineal as paternal contributions must not reflect, in his fathers point of view.
George Zimmerman is as Hispanic as Obama is White, after all, Obama’s mom is white, just like George’s mom is from Cuba, while Obama’s dad is black, just as Zimmerman’s dad is White. Perhaps Judge Robert Zimmerman suggests we apply the ‘one-drop’ rule.



<B>George Zimmerman clearly disobeyed police instructions before assassinating the teen. Here is exactly what the dispatcher said:

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

</B>

Zimmerman: Yah
Dispatcher: Ok, we don’t need you to do that.

But as we now know, Zimmerman’s history of police disobedience is not new, what is odd is the Police, government and main stream media reaction to this clearly dangerous precedent.
One of the most factual analysis’ of the case thus far can be read below:

Bill Schmalfeldt
<B>CNN revealed a telling piece of information Friday that has been missed by many of the media outlets covering the slaying of 17-year old Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watch captain on Feb. 26.

“The portrayal of George Zimmerman in the media, as well as the series of events that led to the tragic shooting, are false and extremely misleading,” his father, a retired magistrate judge, wrote in a letter published in the Orlando Sentinel. “Unfortunately, some individuals and organizations have used this tragedy to further their own causes and agendas.”

</B>

“George is a Spanish-speaking minority with many black family members and friends,” Robert Zimmerman wrote. “He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever.” (Emphasis added.)

Might this explain why, when he was first taken to police headquarters on Feb. 26, the lead investigator wanted to bring charges against Zimmerman, saying he was unconvinced of the 28-year old’s description of events.
ABC News reports:
<B>

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.

</B>

But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney’s office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn’t enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.

According to Think Progress, Wolfinger has since removed himself from the case.
<B>Was Wolfinger doing a favor for a retired judge? The blog Hinterland Gazette believes that may be the case.

It should be noted that George Zimmerman may have received favorable treatment from the police because of his family. ‎According to court records, his father is retired Supreme Court Magistrate Judge Robert Zimmerman and his mother Gladys Zimmerman was a court clerk. Connections in the legal community run deep and go far.

</B>
Might this also explain the younger Zimmerman’s record that includes three “closed arrests”?
Related: NewsRescue-Zimmerman murder of US black teen Trayvon Martin in Florida finally gets attention


Read more: http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/03/zi...#ixzz1unjhtRpa




http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/03/zi...#axzz1uni1jbe4

[natina]

new evidence /witness zimmerman on top of trayvon martin

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...phone.wplg-cnn


prosecutor new evidence released in trayvon martin shooting death

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/15/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2

you are welcome!

A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv

[natina]

that makes it a fact!

its in evidence

Originally Posted by natina Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin, pursued him, frightened him, confronted him then shot him during a struggle, prosecutors alleged Thursday.

That's what the probable-cause affidavit filed Thursday by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey reveals. It is the first look at the criminal case that prosecutors plan to mount against Zimmerman.


The account is strikingly similar to the story that Trayvon's parents, the family's attorneys and civil-rights leaders have told for weeks — that Trayvon was an innocent victim hunted down and killed because he was black.

Herr found the affidavit legally sufficient to establish probable cause and ordered Zimmerman to appear for arraignment — when defendants formally enter a plea — on May 29 before Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler.

But the probable-cause affidavit, prepared by two investigators in her office, spelled out the bare bones of her case.

To Trayvon, it says, Zimmerman was a scary man, following him for some unknown reason. To Zimmerman, Trayvon was someone who was about to commit a crime, "a f------ punk," the affidavit said.

The affidavit offered evidence the state's position on three key points:

•"Zimmerman confronted Martin," it says, an apparent contradiction of Zimmerman's version of events.

•The state will argue that the voice heard crying for help in the background of one 911 call is Trayvon's. According to the affidavit, Trayvon's mother listened to the recording and identified the voice as her son's.

•State investigators will rely on the testimony of a friend of Trayvon's who told them she talked to the teenager on the phone in the lead-up to the shooting and heard the confrontation.

Based on the description, she appears to be the girl described by Martin family attorneys as his girlfriend.

When interviewed by state investigators, "The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why," the affidavit said.

Trayvon tried to run home, the affidavit says, but Zimmerman ignored the advice of a police dispatcher and continued pursuing him on foot.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-show-accident

Criminally Negligent Homicide





(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html



What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.



Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:



-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator



-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program



-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement




Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.



He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.





In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,



or the firing of the gun.



Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.

I didn't know that. Can you post a link where I can see this?

[jamesedwards]

Again, Hebrew Israelites is a bloodline Zulu not a religion, the real Jew is the Falashas in Ethiopia and the ones that live on the out skirts in Israel who are Dark. Again you can't convert into a bloodline. Now if you convert you will be converting to the ways, the culture, the linguistics, dietary, purification, rituals etc. What I am saying is Judism is not really a religion, it's a bloodline. If you have no studies in this, you won't be able to understand, you will read what I say and see what I say but to really get it you may not, and you might.
Now my question to you is, if you so call convert to Judaism, why would you need to move to Israel? I mean you can visit there but to move doesn't make you a Jew. IN the USA we have been poorly taught history, especially African descent people, we were taught the Caucasian Eurocentric education and not our own, this is a fact, I know because I went to school, every thing is about George Washington who was a slave owner and a Mason of a secret society, Thomas Jeff and all these other people, but I'm not Caucasian, so.......

You get what I am saying?

BAMMMMMM YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD!!! You said:
"The way my Genetics professor explained it to us, "race" isn't a biological or scientific term. It's political."

Exactly that's what I said about the black and white terms it's about class and status which in turn is political. This is why these statuses are on job applications.

You must be in a different time then because when I did biology they went into the gene pool and all that and Melanin and Africa the people there etc. I feel nowadays they are dumbing down the youth more. You have access to more info yet the youth don't know nothing but XBox, Playstation and what's the next car Lil Wayne getting or who LeBron dunked on. Back in my day we didn't have access and we learned more. Biology taught us every complexion on earth comes from the African dark Melanin people, and the anatomy taught you about the body, that's where I learned that the aspects of Caucasians are totally different from that of an African person. Example, Africans have 9 ether hair, Caucasians have 6 ether hair, Africans have full noses and lips while Caucasians have thin ones. Africans eye color of the iris is mostly deep dark brown, Caucasians are green, grey, hazel, brown, light brown, and blue. Africans cranium is shaped different than the Caucasian and the nasal cavity also is different.

You said race bums you out, yet you keep using black this black that, etc. There are no black people on this earth we are not colors we are not a box of crayons, African descent people are not orange, blue, green, purple etc. We are complexions, from dark to light that's it. Colors are labels for THINGS we are not things we are human beings. So please never refer to me as a black man. If you do I will have to cut cha!!!
<::::::::::::::::::[]xxxx[]o LOL

ON a serious note, I don't use the term black, When Africans came here they were known as African slaves not black slaves, there is not such thing as a black American that sounds crazy when you analyze it. You what we do, European America throws out an idea we just sop it up without thinking and run with it. Our people went with Negro, colored, N***er, and all these terms. The people of Africa didn't call themselves black, the word doesn't exist in any of the Africans linguistics, also African people meanings and principles in their languages are totally different from Americas'.

OH and trust me I know they have treated African descent people less than human. They are still doing it. A lot of the young Caucasian people seem not to put up with what the US Govt has in their laws.

So if I convert to Judaism and move to Israel you wouldn't consider me a Jew?

The way my Genetics professor explained it to us, "race" isn't a biological or scientific term. It's political.

Now certain groups of peoples have more statistically frequent allele patterns. That not "race" though.

Not once while earning my Bachelors degree in Biology did race come up.

The only time race was brought up in the curriculum was in Philosophy (more specifically political phil and phil of law).

That's called a clue.

As the father of a mixed race son (his mother is black) all this obsession with race sometimes bums me out despite my best efforts not to let others ignorance effect my mood.

I have to admit that if I was a black American I might find it easy to be bitter and resentful towards whites too, though. Historically speaking, the U.S. government has had a policy of treating large groups of people as somewhat less than human.

[natina]

FACT IN EVIDENCE SAYS THAT ZIMMERMAN STARTED THE CONFRONTATION
"Zimmerman got out of his vehicle with a 9mm pistol and pursued travon martin WHO WAS RUNNING AWAY FROM ZIMMERMAN"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47453164...mes/?gt1=43001

you have to play to the public just like the defense did to win an impression or imagine

the defense started with lots of propaganda


it war!

STAND YOUR GROUND LAW WON'T PROTECT ZIMMERMAN BUT HIS ATTORNEY WILL FILE A MOTON FOR IT ANY WHO

stand your ground law does not protect Zimmerman

Author and NRA member Dave Kopel says Florida law does not protect George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin shooting.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?iid=articl...-kopel-one.cnn

Zimmerman Made Disparaging Remarks About Mexican
s on MySpace Page

A MySpace page has surfaced that shows Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman made disparaging remarks about Mexicans and boasted about escaping from legal problems.

While the page is dated from 2005 and has not been used for some time, lawyers on both sides say the social media page could become a factor in the case against Zimmerman, who is accused of shooting the unarmed African-American teenager in Sanford, Florida, on February 26.

The page, titled, "only to be a king again," shows Zimmerman sounding off against Mexicans and celebrating his evasion of charges after a fight with a law enforcement officer.

In a possible reference to an alleged 2005 domestic violence incident, Zimmerman also uses a disparaging slang word for prostitute against his former girlfriend. Benjamin Crump, a lawyer for Trayvon Martin’s family, says the page shows Zimmerman has a history of racial profiling.

WHAT A BROKEN NOSE LOOKS LIKE
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03...been-arrested/

Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman’s 2005 MySpace page “includes disparaging remarks about Mexicans.”
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/tag/george-zimmerman/


According to the Miami Herald, Zuazo said that three years earlier, Zimmerman attacked her while the two were driving to a counseling session. Zuazo said she popped her gum in his face and he repeatedly smacked her in the face. In January 2002, she added, Zimmerman became enraged that she had come home late. They wrestled and he threw her on the bed, smacking her, according to the newspaper.
In September 2003, Zimmerman called police and reported that another motorist spat on him, according to reports, Zimmerman followed the man in his car until the police arrived. Daniel Osmun, the other driver, told police that Zimmerman was tailgating and that he spit his gum out the window "out of frustration."
Osum said that Zimmerman then pulled alongside of him, and the two argued. In a police report of the incident, Osum said “at one point, he thought Mr. Zimmerman was going to attack him." No charges were filed against either man.

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman Was 'Jekyll And Hyde,' Former Co-Worker Says
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1392591.html

[jamesedwards]

These two women said Zimmerman was on top and they have been saying this from the beginning, also the woman with the short hair cut said the police didn't even want to take her statement, what's up with that? So all the witnesses don't agree on the same pocket as another witness named John said Trayvon was on top.




Why isn't any Zimmerman supporters talking about Tray's girlfriend and her statement, isn't hers valid too? That's the biggest key to this whole case!!! She was actually the last person to speak to Tray.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...phone.wplg-cnn <<< the two women.

[jamesedwards]

How in the world did Zimmerman get off on two points of assault on police, one a felony and a misdemeanor ? How does that work?

FACT IN EVIDENCE SAYS THAT ZIMMERMAN STARTED THE CONFRONTATION
"Zimmerman got out of his vehicle with a 9mm pistol and pursued travon martin WHO WAS RUNNING AWAY FROM ZIMMERMAN"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47453164...mes/?gt1=43001