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    Why are you so insecure that you call everyone a racist?
    Wrong again, I only asked if you were being racist. Again, why so sensitive? Do you get accused of that a lot? I know it tough. Used to be a badge of honor. Now you have deny it in public and then in private roll around in it. Have a nice doggy evening.


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    Taking out a loan and paying it back with interest is not public assistance. But if you're suggesting one could perhaps forgo the loan entirely and "pay" for one's education by a few years of public assistance, it sounds like a workable idea. I'm sure there are some though who would call it socialist.


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Taking out a loan and paying it back with interest is not public assistance. But if you're suggesting one could perhaps forgo the loan entirely and "pay" for one's education by a few years of public assistance, it sounds like a workable idea. I'm sure there are some though who would call it socialist.

    I don't know enough about the way student loan rules are structured to have an informed opinion that issue.

    As for the part in red, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. A sense of ownership in ones country. A feeling of "I helped build that road". Being part of a team providing a valuable service for my fellow citizens.

    I don't see anything wrong with that. The taxpayers get a service up-front, and receive more tax revenue and societal participation over time from the better educated citizen with "skin in the game" so to speak.

    I am totally against compulsory service in any form (military draft, Americorps, etc...) however.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001 View Post
    Under Obama it is now ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country. Under Obama they are asking for a handout not a hand.
    Simply ridiculous assertion based on nothing.

    Obama saying you can get college in exchange for service:

    "Scholarships to every young person in America who wants to go to college in exchange for community service"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001 View Post
    Why are you so insecure that you call everyone a racist? Just because you disagree with a black person does not make you a racist. However calling everyone who disagrees with your point of view does make you a racist. Perhaps you need to go to racial sensitivity training. This is afterall a multicultural society. Or perhaps you need to change your screen name to "Trish X" to show that the Man is oppressing you. I'm sorry that life gave you a raw deal, but you need to grow up and treat others with respect even if they don't conform to your world view.
    Asking to treat others with respect when you post the rubbish you have posted in this thread masquerading as jokes? You must be that jackass OMK's twin - are you on your knees too?



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    Quote Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001 View Post

    Another example of a dignified President:


    This is the same man who used narco-terrorists to undermine a democratically elected government in Nicaragua, and who never once had the 'dignity' to go to Saudi Arabia and condemn the autocratic rule of one family and make a plea for democracy and freedom there. The same man who lacked dignity or indeed the responsibility of his office when he refused to stand up for American citizens murdered in El Salvador. The same man who bankrupted the USA in his reckless need to enrich the rich through insane tax cuts, and out-spend the USSR on arms; the same 'dignified' man who bankrolled the 'Islamic' Military dictator Zia of Pakistan and through its collusion with Saudi Arabia paved the way for the growth of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. And wasn't it this man's wife whose faux pas at a Chicago fund-raiser led her to remark on how good it was to look out on an audience and see "all these beautiful white faces"?

    Student loans are a curse, on both sides of the Atlantic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    This is the same man who used narco-terrorists to undermine a democratically elected government in Nicaragua, and who never once had the 'dignity' to go to Saudi Arabia and condemn the autocratic rule of one family and make a plea for democracy and freedom there. The same man who lacked dignity or indeed the responsibility of his office when he refused to stand up for American citizens murdered in El Salvador. The same man who bankrupted the USA in his reckless need to enrich the rich through insane tax cuts, and out-spend the USSR on arms; the same 'dignified' man who bankrolled the 'Islamic' Military dictator Zia of Pakistan and through its collusion with Saudi Arabia paved the way for the growth of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. And wasn't it this man's wife whose faux pas at a Chicago fund-raiser led her to remark on how good it was to look out on an audience and see "all these beautiful white faces"?

    Student loans are a curse, on both sides of the Atlantic.
    Perfectly put, Stavros. The reverence in which Americans hold Reagan is simply baffling when so many scandals and horrors happened on his watch. Politically, he represents the ultimate triumph of show over substance, and we've been dealing with that legacy on both sides of the Atlantic ever since.


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    No one talks about how poverty grew at an alarming rate under Reagan. Folks want to pretend he was Jesus. He was in a ton of scandals and raised taxes. Go Figure. Jesus wouldn't raise taxes, lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Perfectly put, Stavros. The reverence in which Americans hold Reagan is simply baffling when so many scandals and horrors happened on his watch. Politically, he represents the ultimate triumph of show over substance, and we've been dealing with that legacy on both sides of the Atlantic ever since.

    Yes it is very baffling to leftists that we hold a President in esteem, who stood up to the Soviet Union (the evil empire, the Soviets even put the Nazis to shame in killing their own population). Leftists are always very happy when a weak sister like Carter or Obama is in office actively harming the country's interests.




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    Remind me what Ronald Reagan did during the War?

    That's right he played the role of an officer in the movies.



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