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[bluesoul]

Dude, if you don't get anything she is saying you're an idiot, you were going to cause her to wet her bed, most of her clients lay in her bed, some of her clients pay to be peed on, she wets the bed the client is in it she gets paid extra. What the hell was so hard to put together? Lord, so many shattered egos on this forum.

so she wets the bed on purpose and it has nothing to do with the bullshit story about being from a more temperate country?

[mathematics1900]

so she wets the bed on purpose and it has nothing to do with the bullshit story about being from a more temperate country?

Is that the best logic you can present? She was joking, why are you so worked up? Lol, go away already man you're embarrassing yourself.

[EvonRose]

so she wets the bed on purpose and it has nothing to do with the bullshit story about being from a more temperate country?

it's not a story I am from another country....

[bluesoul]

Is that the best logic you can present? She was joking, why are you so worked up? Lol, go away already man you're embarrassing yourself.

what makes you think i'm worked up?

[EvonRose]

what makes you think i'm worked up?

Really? your going off on a lighthearted joke, for absolutely no reason mofo...

So obviously theres an underlying hatred you have towards me...

I'm so sorry your dad touched you, but you need to talk to a doctor as oppose to taking it out on innocent people like me.

[mathematics1900]

what makes you think i'm worked up?

You're posting sarcastic gifs of neil patrick harris, yeah dude, you're worked up.

[bluesoul]

I'm so sorry your dad touched you, but you need to talk to a doctor as oppose to taking it out on innocent people like me.

thanks for the well wishes

[EvonRose]

thanks for the well wishes

Oh no problem... It must be hard...

[mathematics1900]

Evon, girl...you are not innocent!

[GrimFusion]

Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos

Yeah maybe I wanted prince charming in high school, like every female does..especially when I used to watch Sleeping Beauty on repeat..

But you grow out of it typically in college and through dating error and mistakes..social networking with the opposite sex.

HOWEVER - I just think where a lot of issue stem from is girls love to play the victim and "misery loves company"

I'm sorry if I don't have much pity for girls who play that card. I went to high school in a town of 2500 people as a female. I never let my transition handicap me or allow others to define who I was. I honestly think girls who transition older have a harder perspective on social dating and differentiating why men act differently in a "escort" setting than they would outside it. Since a lot of sex workers turn to it to afford the expenses of transition. This typically will be most of their social interaction and relationship with men for most of their transition. Which of course gives them a miscued look at things. This is why I suggest counseling..

I also apologize if I have understanding and empathy for what a man goes through when he dates a transsexual openly. Why do I have that empathy? Because I remember how it was the first day I transitioned. I remember the family arguments and trials I had. I remember when my father three months later called me his "little princess and I always was". I remember when kids in school after a year of teasing my freshman year started to come around. I remember how hard it was grasping for my identity after my mother died. I remember every tid bit and I remember feeling grateful how my life turned out in many ways. Still to this day I'm grateful how easy I have honestly had it. It's why I became a transgender activist in the first place. What the problem is girls forget so easily what it was like to take their first steps.

You usually see the change somewhere around the time a girl gets implants or she becomes "beautiful" or passable. However somehow those trials of sadness through her transition are always in the back of her head, and she in turns acts out. By degrading others the way she may of been degraded. It lifts her up.

She also feels a sense of "I'm so hot" I can degrade this guy and he still wants me. It's a way of power. As you will see many girls in this thread reassure themselves of their beauty and how passable they are by the men they date. So even though many have a bad view of men, they still base their passability on the men they date.

Less on if they can walk down the street, be treated like normal in any public setting. Including going in a girls locker room say in a public gym and having no one think the wiser. All those things that any transsexual woman should be grateful for, they aren't. So many transsexual women who aren't passable would kill to have that blessing, so if I don't have pity for a lot of the girls on this board and girls from the adult world you will just have to forgive me.

I feel many ALLOW how they are treated.

I feel many enable men to treat us with disrespect, instead of educating them, they argue and demean them. Which doesn't bring the good out in anyone.

It saddens me when I see friend after friend who finds a great guy, but oh no something in his past puts him on the chopping block. Whether it be he slept with another trans or dated one or slept around figuring out what they want.

Here's a news flash..when people are trying to figure out their sexuality..they SLEEP AROUND A LOT. Especially when it goes from being straight to something alternative. Because SEX plays such a vital role on how one identifies themselves.

There are cases when someone feels they are gay, but do not enjoy sex with men. They surprisingly enjoy sex with women. But in this case the male still feels he is a gay man.

I just think being a trans woman and being around trans women MANY are their own worst enemy not only in life partner relationships but friendships in general.

It's where a lot of the cattiness, backstabbing, hating on one another' looks all stem from, and it's why when a girl who is farther down the line in her transition will look down on another transsexual who isn't. Because they need that sense of validation and power, to feed their own hole and ego..

Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?

I understood what you meant the first time. I think we're actually agreeing on a lot of stuff, but I went off on some weird tangent about HA specifically. I'm not denying that transgendered women generally have issues in relationships, especially if they get into escorting to support their transitions and then try dating. That's a crazy-ass lifestyle. My argument is that they have reasons neither of us totally understand because neither of us escorted (for any length of time... shhh! lol). I think it's understandable that they would mistreat good men they end up with. It's not right, especially when it's not the "defective boyfriend" but rather the girls own personal insecurities, a need to feel completely independent, and a fear of getting too close or personal that has them jumping through a series of shitty, short-lived relationships. It's not right, but it comes with the territory when your profession is getting used.

I know you're probably thinking "well, you're just considering escorts. That's not fair". You're right, and you may know better than I do, but I think there's a correlation between transsexual escorts and this type of behavior that doesn't exist in the same degree with girls who chose not to escort. The "I think I'm better than you" condescending attitude is human nature whenever anyone's self-image improves. Eventually that sense of entitlement wears off unless there are other underlying hang-ups.

My first post wasn't meant to demonize the guys around here. My only intention was to say that there's bull shit coming from both sides. It's not just a "Guys are all chasers" and "Tgirls are all so petty and insecure" deal. It's a "There are shitty people in both camps" issue. I've just noticed that in hanging around here since 2005, the majority of girls have a reason to be bitchy. The dudes? Not so much.

Lemme put it this way; despite the amount of ostrazation men face in introducing transgendered girlfriends to friends and family, if a dude just can't put up with the scrutiny, he still has the option to break up and go date a GG. Nearly instant normality. Do transgendered women have the same option? Just go right back to being a dude? Not really. It's not the same thing.

Guys that have been through two or three relationships with transsexuals know what they're getting themselves into. Assuming the first-timers are aware of the community, they hear about all that crap second-hand anyhow. It's not like we're completely blind-sided when we get dumped by a chick in the middle of a mental breakdown.