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04-10-2012 #501
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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04-10-2012 #502
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04-10-2012 #503
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04-10-2012 #504
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
I find it very interesting how both of you keep dodging the responses I make to your posts.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...&postcount=464
For instance, cigar still hasn't said anything about how Zimmerman has a criminal record, and not Martin.
Last edited by urbanchampion; 04-10-2012 at 05:55 PM.
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04-10-2012 #505
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04-10-2012 #506
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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04-10-2012 #507
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Yvonne, keep all the factors in this case that we know the same, except change ONE variable; the race of assailant and victim.
Do you honestly think if a Black self-appointed neighborhood watch captain claimed he saw a 'suspicious' looking White teen in a hoodie talking on the phone with his GF carrying Skittles and a can of Ice Tea, got into an altercation and shot that White unarmed kid through the heart, do you really believe that Black murderer would be able to credibly claim 'self defense' and not be arrested??
This is where my outrage comes from, the consistent double standard and the reason why I personally try to keep the temperature turned down on any possible confrontation with a stranger.
I'm 50/50 Zimmerman is convicted of anything or has to serve significant jail time, but this paper thin defense of hiding behind the SYG law is IMO just another example of veiled racism that is all too easy to see.
When Zimmerman is arrested, people will quit bitching.
But for that punk to be free for over 40 days because he claims a kid that he was following threatened HIS life is bullshit.
I know White people get hassled for looking a certain way or wearing the 'wrong' clothes. But the difference is IMO that when you're Black, you will catch grief from authorities just for NOT being White.
Not all the time. But collectively, it goes on way too frequently.
ROughly over half of all the Black men I know have been pulled over by cops for NO FUCKING LEGITIMATE REASON. Except for the race of the driver.
Yvonne you know why you have this impression that the races are becoming more divided??
Because White people are tired of being reminded that racism still exists.
And Black and Brown people are sick of the fact that racism won't go away.
This never would have been a national story if the Sanford PD had acted like any normal PD and arrested Zimmerman on probable cause and actually investigated this case.
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04-10-2012 #508
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04-10-2012 #509
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
The major issue, is that one side of this story will never be told. Zimmerman pursued someone who was unarmed and he had a gun. The unarmed person comes up dead. Let for a minute think about the scenario that Zimmerman was a trained policeman. In such a case, he would have been put on adminstrative leave until the matter was investigated. But now, some new Florida law, changes concepts of the defintion of self defense, which has been around for centuries, even before there was a United States.
And by the way, if you say that Hippifried, is "100 percent wrong", I think you owe an explanation how this is so. We all come from different legal jurisdictions. However, according to media reports, Martin's girlfriend, who was on the phone with reported that he was very concerned, (maybe scared might be a better word.) His friend was reported as advising him to run. So this is evidence that he felt a threat. I know that this is not legal evidence. There any many questions and possibilties. I say that a debating public wants/needs answers. This includes your definitions, mr legal scholar.
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04-11-2012 #510
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Well, I'm glad you can at least admit you couldn't finish high school. That's a big step.
Now look in the mirror and say these words:
"I am dumb Floridian white trash, and Nicole Dupre is my intellectual superior. I also have horrible body odor, and I never change my underwear."
Go ahead... Say it!!!
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