17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[Nicole Dupre]

I know exactly what the hardcore ghettos are like. We have some of the worst ghettos in the country right here in NJ, and it doesn't change my opinion about this case one bit. We can having ghetto pissing contests all day.



I'm not sure why everyone feels compelled to use other situations to define this one incident. You don't need to live anywhere in particular to separate the facts from the speculation. If Zimmerman seemed justified, I'd applaud him. But he doesn't; not to me. Imo he whole thing stinks of bigotry and nepotism. It's SSDD for LE and the criminal justice system in Florida.

[buttslinger]

Vyonne, my two white friends got chased by a mob of black people on the grounds of the Washington Monument in DC, broad daylight, Human Kindness Day, and the black cop on a horse said "What in the hell are YOU doing here?
When Russtafa talks about Muslims I know EXACTLY what he's saying without being there.
I tried to "Make light" about racism with my black neighbor and I witnessed first hand the pain on his face and in his voice. He wasn't some dumb jig, I guarantee you even the President of the United States remembers the first time he heard the word "nigger"
They say in the great American melting pot, black people didn't melt.

There is NO reason to follow or detain any kid walking to his aunts house. Unless you're prejudiced. You can't tail a black kid in Florida because of what some blacks did in Baltimore. Do black people do bad things? Yes. Should they get a pass cause they're black? NO.
Mildcigar can think whatever he wants (unfortunately) But he can't take justice in his own hands as an armed vigilante. That's a whole other thing.
Zimmerman's lawyers are going to try and blow this up into some big thing, but the second the 9-1-1 operator said stay in the car, he stopped being neighborhood watch and became a criminal. And when someone gets shot while in a criminal act, that's murder. This is what happens when fools carry guns.

[giovanni_hotel]

Vyonne, my two white friends got chased by a mob of black people on the grounds of the Washington Monument in DC, broad daylight, Human Kindness Day, and the black cop on a horse said "What in the hell are YOU doing here?
When Russtafa talks about Muslims I know EXACTLY what he's saying without being there.
I tried to "Make light" about racism with my black neighbor and I witnessed first hand the pain on his face and in his voice. He wasn't some dumb jig, I guarantee you even the President of the United States remembers the first time he heard the word "nigger"
They say in the great American melting pot, black people didn't melt.

There is NO reason to follow or detain any kid walking to his aunts house. Unless you're prejudiced. You can't tail a black kid in Florida because of what some blacks did in Baltimore. Do black people do bad things? Yes. Should they get a pass cause they're black? NO.
Mildcigar can think whatever he wants (unfortunately) But he can't take justice in his own hands as an armed vigilante. That's a whole other thing.
Zimmerman's lawyers are going to try and blow this up into some big thing, but the second the 9-1-1 operator said stay in the car, he stopped being neighborhood watch and became a criminal. And when someone gets shot while in a criminal act, that's murder. This is what happens when fools carry guns.

Agree with this post.

BTW, I live in D.C. and would love to know the circumstances that resulted in your White friends being chased by a group of Black teens in broad daylight( I assume the age).

YOu hear about things like that happening at night when there's not much security around, but I won't act like it never happens.
Hell tourists here get mugged here in downtown D.C. more than any major U.S. tourist destination.

[EvonRose]

I know exactly what the hardcore ghettos are like. We have some of the worst ghettos in the country right here in NJ, and it doesn't change my opinion about this case one bit. We can having ghetto pissing contests all day.



I'm not sure why everyone feels compelled to use other situations to define this one incident. You don't need to live anywhere in particular to separate the facts from the speculation. If Zimmerman seemed justified, I'd applaud him. But he doesn't; not to me. Imo he whole thing stinks of bigotry and nepotism. It's SSDD for LE and the criminal justice system in Florida.

Lol your probably the most insightful person I know on here... No joke.

Can I add, to the forum basing of on Nicole, Ghetto comes in all forms, blacks did not create ghetto, there have been many ghetto's since the beginning of time, particularly the bohemian era, like in France, Romania, Italy, etc Ghetto is everywhere.

[buttslinger]

BTW, I live in D.C. and would love to know the circumstances that resulted in your White friends being chased by a group of Black teens in broad daylight( I assume the age).

I'm an old codger. Human Kindness Day. 1974???? Stevie Wonder. On the Mall. Free.
I was living with three other guys in a big house. Two of them went to meet up with some black friends from work. They were standing at the edge of the crowd, when one roomate noticed all the black people were looking at them with "blank stares" Next thing you know, it was a footrace. And my one friend who ran track in school, my other friend passed him!!!!
They didn't bet hurt, just scared.
In my whoring days when Marion Barry was Mayor, I got mugged a few times, being where I wasn't supposed to be. This was the crack/AIDS eighties. I GOT STORIES!!!!

[Yvonne183]

Vyonne, my two white friends got chased by a mob of black people on the grounds of the Washington Monument in DC, broad daylight, Human Kindness Day, and the black cop on a horse said "What in the hell are YOU doing here?
When Russtafa talks about Muslims I know EXACTLY what he's saying without being there.
I tried to "Make light" about racism with my black neighbor and I witnessed first hand the pain on his face and in his voice. He wasn't some dumb jig, I guarantee you even the President of the United States remembers the first time he heard the word "nigger"
They say in the great American melting pot, black people didn't melt.

There is NO reason to follow or detain any kid walking to his aunts house. Unless you're prejudiced. You can't tail a black kid in Florida because of what some blacks did in Baltimore. Do black people do bad things? Yes. Should they get a pass cause they're black? NO.
Mildcigar can think whatever he wants (unfortunately) But he can't take justice in his own hands as an armed vigilante. That's a whole other thing.
Zimmerman's lawyers are going to try and blow this up into some big thing, but the second the 9-1-1 operator said stay in the car, he stopped being neighborhood watch and became a criminal. And when someone gets shot while in a criminal act, that's murder. This is what happens when fools carry guns.

I understand what you are saying. I was not trying to say cause one group does something then it's OK for another group. I was just trying to say what I think might be in Zimmerman's head. I am not a citizen patrol person but I most certainly would cross the street or try to avoid a black guy walking down the same street, especially at night. Yes it might be racist but past experiences, videos like I posted and stories from other people make me cautious. I don't care if I offend anyone by crossing the street, I am not put in this world to please everyone's idea of life. Where I lived it's just common sense to be careful.

Again, Zimmerman was not just walking down the street as I was, he seemed to be on a mission but that is only from what I read so far. I was just trying in a way, why Zimmerman might have these prejudices or fears.

I also don't know all the facts. I also don't know what the law is about gated communities. Are gated communities similar in law to an apartment building. What I mean is if someone strange enters an apartment building is the doorman or some other person like a building super or block captain sort of person allowed to stop the person and question them, are they allowed to follow the individual in the apartment building. And does a gated community fall under the same rules/laws. That is if this even actually happened in the gated community, I don't really know personally the whole story. If the rules/laws are similar then it might be OK for Zimmerman(if he was a neighborhood watch guy) to follow the guy.

As far as shooting the guy, I can not say in this case cause I don't know what exactly happened, apparently Zimmerman seems to be the holder of the truth, if he tells it or not is something else. But if I was to be attacked by someone who is unarmed and they were to punch me like the guy in my vid did, then if I had a gun I would surely blow him away. I don't care about his life at all, he made the decision to die when he hit me.

I hope my post wasn't confusing Mr. Butt, can I call you Mr. Butt, sorry I had to say that. lol But I am just trying to put what could have been in the head of Zimmerman. And from talking to some older black people where I use to live, they had the same fears of young black guys as I did, maybe more so, cause I am able to move, they can't.

[amberskyi]

Agree with this post.

BTW, I live in D.C. and would love to know the circumstances that resulted in your White friends being chased by a group of Black teens in broad daylight( I assume the age).

YOu hear about things like that happening at night when there's not much security around, but I won't act like it never happens.
Hell tourists here get mugged here in downtown D.C. more than any major U.S. tourist destination.

Something similar almost happened to my boyfriend in NE but the guys stopped when I started crying....

[amberskyi]

I understand what you are saying. I was not trying to say cause one group does something then it's OK for another group. I was just trying to say what I think might be in Zimmerman's head. I am not a citizen patrol person but I most certainly would cross the street or try to avoid a black guy walking down the same street, especially at night. Yes it might be racist but past experiences, videos like I posted and stories from other people make me cautious. I don't care if I offend anyone by crossing the street, I am not put in this world to please everyone's idea of life. Where I lived it's just common sense to be careful.

Again, Zimmerman was not just walking down the street as I was, he seemed to be on a mission but that is only from what I read so far. I was just trying in a way, why Zimmerman might have these prejudices or fears.

I also don't know all the facts. I also don't know what the law is about gated communities. Are gated communities similar in law to an apartment building. What I mean is if someone strange enters an apartment building is the doorman or some other person like a building super or block captain sort of person allowed to stop the person and question them, are they allowed to follow the individual in the apartment building. And does a gated community fall under the same rules/laws. That is if this even actually happened in the gated community, I don't really know personally the whole story. If the rules/laws are similar then it might be OK for Zimmerman(if he was a neighborhood watch guy) to follow the guy.

As far as shooting the guy, I can not say in this case cause I don't know what exactly happened, apparently Zimmerman seems to be the holder of the truth, if he tells it or not is something else. But if I was to be attacked by someone who is unarmed and they were to punch me like the guy in my vid did, then if I had a gun I would surely blow him away. I don't care about his life at all, he made the decision to die when he hit me.

I hope my post wasn't confusing Mr. Butt, can I call you Mr. Butt, sorry I had to say that. lol But I am just trying to put what could have been in the head of Zimmerman. And from talking to some older black people where I use to live, they had the same fears of young black guys as I did, maybe more so, cause I am able to move, they can't.

being a young trans woman i have the same apprehensions about young black men.i would be a lie if i didnt say that i get nervous when i see a group of young black men of a certain disposition.there is a huge difference however with being a bit vigilant/watchful in case of trouble and what zimmerman did.he followed a teenage kid at night and confronted him with a gun against the advice of everyone.zimmerman escalated the situation to a completely absurd level.

[FreddieGomez]

where i live, if u see someone out of the ordinary,especially a white person ect..it's automatically assumed they're looking for drugs

[amberskyi]

where i live, if u see someone out of the ordinary,especially a white person ect..it's automatically assumed they're looking for drugs

dude you live in harlem which is becoming way more gentrified...you see white people all through there