Where is the Media outrage

[SunshyneMonroe]

i don't hate you...i don't write bs about you...and i'm not black.

other than being a know-it-all asshole who likes to debate...i really disagree with you on this because i am having a hard time understanding why the voice recordings aren't enough evidence for you.

I wasnt talking about you....and post the video the whole coon thing u cant even tell if thats what he really said...

[buttslinger]

the whole coon thing u cant even tell if thats what he really said...

Don't make George Zimmerman your poster boy, or you're going to look real stupid. I cannot believe Conservative Media is trying to excuse "coon hunting" by wannabe cops, because the guy had some fights and smoked some herb.

[pimpdog]

Its easy to prove Zimmerman is lying just by his story.

[qqqqqqw]

Stop watching Fox News.

[onmyknees]

Great post Sunshyne because although it can be seen as admirable of you that you've pointed out the vast racial discrimination against white people in this country by the media, it gives the opportunity for someone to explain to you the obvious differences in these situations.

First of all if these allegations are true then this is an absolute horrible crime and they should be prosecuted to whatever the full extent of the law is in whatever state the took place in short of the "death penalty" (personal grievance).

However, you or whomever ever created this flyer didn't state any issues of the case. Was this a racially motivated crime? Was it financially motivated? Was there a relationship between the victims and the perpetrators?

There isn't an answer that's going to justify there murder but these answers could perhaps explain some of the reason that this case hasn't gotten as much attention.

With that said I'll explain to you Sunshyne what the main difference is. It's the fact that the people who murdered these people have all been arrested and will be brought to justice. I'm having a really hard time understanding how people aren't understanding that.

We're talking about a case where two people were murdered, there were arrests made and then a separate (can't really call it a case) situation where a 17 year old boy was killed on his way home from buying a bag of Skittles and no arrest made.

This country has a long history of racial profiling and racially motivated killings perpetrated against African Americans. As much as some whites may want to think that racially motivated killings is something that has equally been perpetrated against them it simply isn't true.

The vast majority of crimes including murder that are committed by African Americans are committed against other African Americans. Situations of murder that are perpetrated against whites are almost always financially motivated. This in no way means that there deaths are in anyway less meaningful but it is simply fact that this country simply doesn't have a history of blacks killing whites because of racial hate.

However there are differences in the medias coverage of crimes depending on race. For instance blacks make up 13% of the U.S. population. For all of the missing persons reports each year 60% of the reported missing fall into the category or white/or latino, and over half that number 31% are African American. I challenge you to name even one national news Chandra Levy, Laci Peterson, JonBenet Ramsey or Elizabeth Smart type coverage about someone that was missing and black.

There is also a difference because of the backdrop of a controversial law. One that as it is defined gives a person the right to shoot and kill someone if there "perceive" that they are in danger. As it stands in this situation the law to this point granted a man the freedom to pursue and kill a 17 year old kid, armed only with a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona Ice Tea, who he perceived to be dangerous or threatening in some way, even after being told "do not follow him" and who he said "he's running away now".

It's a law that I was totally unaware of which I'm sure many black men were and I live in the state of Texas which is one of the states that this ridiculous law applies to. Not a comfortable feeling knowing that a person can kill me just for the fuck of it and say "oh well he was threatening me and coming towards me" or "he was saying he was going to shoot me and was reaching into his waste band" and as long as there are no witnesses to refute his story he simply goes home while my body is on the concrete getting cold.

I don't see how this law could be making anyone safer and one thing that I'm certain of is that although it may not have received as much attention from the media (who knows), I can assure you that if this situation would have happened on the flip side and instead of Trayvon and Zimmerman say a middle aged black man had killed a 17 year old white kid who he was on record of stalking and was told to "stand down", I can assure you he would have been arrested and would be awaiting trial as speak.

For some reason this post seems strange coming from you. I've never met you and don't know what's in your heart but something about the way you look maybe (really don't know what it is) surprises me that you'd be a person that would put up such racially divisive post.

But again this is a horrible situation that you've just pointed out here but before before we start crying foul about all the injustice being done to white people in this country, let's first get these situations on equal footing by having Treyvon's killer arrested and tried the way that justice was served for these monsters.

Just Saying...

"However, you or whomever ever created this flyer didn't state any issues of the case. Was this a racially motivated crime? Was it financially motivated? Was there a relationship between the victims and the perpetrators? "

>Good Jesus...what the fuck does it matter ? They cut off the dudes dick and burned his body...does it really matter if it's categorized by the FBI Crime stats as a hate crime? It's black on white....period. Race was a factor if for no other reason than the victims were white. That's the standard it appears you're using in the Zimmerman case.


"We're talking about a case where two people were murdered, there were arrests made and then a separate (can't really call it a case) situation where a 17 year old boy was killed on his way home from buying a bag of Skittles and no arrest made. "

>No arrests made YET. That's been the point all along. Stop with the mob justice bullshit...the hanging mob you're a part of today could show up on your doorstep tomorrow.


"The vast majority of crimes including murder that are committed by African Americans are committed against other African Americans. Situations of murder that are perpetrated against whites are almost always financially motivated. This in no way means that there deaths are in anyway less meaningful but it is simply fact that this country simply doesn't have a history of blacks killing whites because of racial hate."


>Are you kidding me? Is that some sort of mitigating factor that's supposed to make white folks feel better about being victims of black perpetrators ? Well I'm sure the fuck glad you didn't hate me when you beat me into an inch of my life and stole my wallet. Why not just simply say blacks commit a higher percentage of crimes against all races than their proportionality to the general population? That's an accurate statement. I understand it's simplistic on it's face, and crime is a complex issue, but it's no less true.

Look....IMHO the justice system is more socio-economic than racist. I give you OJ as a perfect example. Got cash for a dream team...you chances are better than average you'll walk. Poor whites and poor blacks with public defenders get locked up every day.
And for your information....on Zimmerman's voter registration card he lists his ethnicity as "Hispanic".


"There is also a difference because of the backdrop of a controversial law. One that as it is defined gives a person the right to shoot and kill someone if there "perceive" that they are in danger. As it stands in this situation the law to this point granted a man the freedom to pursue and kill a 17 year old kid, armed only with a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona Ice Tea, who he perceived to be dangerous or threatening in some way, even after being told "do not follow him" and who he said "he's running away now".

There is no evidence that Zimmerman's attorneys will use the stand your ground as a defense if there is an eventual trial. It may not even be relevant in this case...If for the sake of discussion Martin turned to Zimmerman at some point and confronted him physically, like it or not...that changes everything. Your poor black kid eating skittles is out the window. That may be what the entire case is about.

You'd think after being burned in so many high profile cases, the racial hustlers, and the media would wait for events and evidence to unfold....but then that's why they're hustlers now...isn't it? It's commendable to console and assist the family, it's reprehensible to hear some of the inflammatory language being used and tweeting Zimmerman's home address. And didn't that opportunist Spike Lee tweet the wrong address? Brilliant.
SO what happens when all of you have invested so much up front into convincing yourselves that Zimmerman is a savage racist waiting for the right opportunity to gun down a black dude. Then we get to trial...let's say there's a racially mixed jury from the community, and evidence indicates that circumstances are not quite as cut and dried as you've convinced yourselves they are, and the jury either deadlocks or acquits....?? It would seem impossible to back track from your entrenched beliefs, so you'll remain convinced of your version of events. But then again the Duke dudes are still waiting for their apologies from the faculty, and from The Reverend Al.




I don't know why seemingly smart folks on here can't tell when they're being hyped and played by the media. There's nothing glamorous and controversial about a black guy in Red Hook Brooklyn getting blown away on his way home from Brooklyn college by another black dude. But throw in race, sprinkle in possible vigilantism, a hoodie, skittles, and the media's got a story they can pimp for weeks, and when it's all said and done...the rest of us have to figure out how to co-exist afterward. Sickening.

[giovanni_hotel]

The ONLY reason Zimmerman possibly will be arrested is because of the national media coverage given to this case by 'race hustlers', not my term since most conservatives nowadays call all Black civil rights activists race hustlers.

This case is a month old. If the police had arrested Zimmerman on probable cause in February, this story never would have had national media coverage.

[buttslinger]

When a black guy murders a white family and walks THEN go up in arms! I've been jumped by black guys, a FEW times, I don't blame the black race.

[dafame]

"However, you or whomever ever created this flyer didn't state any issues of the case. Was this a racially motivated crime? Was it financially motivated? Was there a relationship between the victims and the perpetrators? "

>Good Jesus...what the fuck does it matter ? They cut off the dudes dick and burned his body...does it really matter if it's categorized by the FBI Crime stats as a hate crime? It's black on white....period. Race was a factor if for no other reason than the victims were white. That's the standard it appears you're using in the Zimmerman case.


"We're talking about a case where two people were murdered, there were arrests made and then a separate (can't really call it a case) situation where a 17 year old boy was killed on his way home from buyiing a bag of Skittles and no arrest made. "

>No arrests made YET. That's been the point all along. Stop with the mob justice bullshit...the hanging mob you're a part of today could show up on your doorstep tomorrow.


"The vast majority of crimes including murder that are committed by African Americans are committed against other African Americans. Situations of murder that are perpetrated against whites are almost always financially motivated. This in no way means that there deaths are in anyway less meaningful but it is simply fact that this country simply doesn't have a history of blacks killing whites because of racial hate."


>Are you kidding me? Is that some sort of mitigating factor that's supposed to make white folks feel better about being victims of black perpetrators ? Well I'm sure the fuck glad you didn't hate me when you beat me into an inch of my life and stole my wallet. Why not just simply say blacks commit a higher percentage of crimes against all races than their proportionality to the general population? That's an accurate statement. I understand it's simplistic on it's face, and crime is a complex issue, but it's no less true.

Look....IMHO the justice system is more socio-economic than racist. I give you OJ as a perfect example. Got cash for a dream team...you chances are better than average you'll walk. Poor whites and poor blacks with public defenders get locked up every day.
And for your information....on Zimmerman's voter registration card he lists his ethnicity as "Hispanic".


"There is also a difference because of the backdrop of a controversial law. One that as it is defined gives a person the right to shoot and kill someone if there "perceive" that they are in danger. As it stands in this situation the law to this point granted a man the freedom to pursue and kill a 17 year old kid, armed only with a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona Ice Tea, who he perceived to be dangerous or threatening in some way, even after being told "do not follow him" and who he said "he's running away now".

There is no evidence that Zimmerman's attorneys will use the stand your ground as a defense if there is an eventual trial. It may not even be relevant in this case...If for the sake of discussion Martin turned to Zimmerman at some point and confronted him physically, like it or not...that changes everything. Your poor black kid eating skittles is out the window. That may be what the entire case is about.

You'd think after being burned in so many high profile cases, the racial hustlers, and the media would wait for events and evidence to unfold....but then that's why they're hustlers now...isn't it? It's commendable to console and assist the family, it's reprehensible to hear some of the inflammatory language being used and tweeting Zimmerman's home address. And didn't that opportunist Spike Lee tweet the wrong address? Brilliant.
SO what happens when all of you have invested so much up front into convincing yourselves that Zimmerman is a savage racist waiting for the right opportunity to gun down a black dude. Then we get to trial...let's say there's a racially mixed jury from the community, and evidence indicates that circumstances are not quite as cut and dried as you've convinced yourselves they are, and the jury either deadlocks or acquits....?? It would seem impossible to back track from your entrenched beliefs, so you'll remain convinced of your version of events. But then again the Duke dudes are still waiting for their apologies from the faculty, and from The Reverend Al.




I don't know why seemingly smart folks on here can't tell when they're being hyped and played by the media. There's nothing glamorous and controversial about a black guy in Red Hook Brooklyn getting blown away on his way home from Brooklyn college by another black dude. But throw in race, sprinkle in possible vigilantism, a hoodie, skittles, and the media's got a story they can pimp for weeks, and when it's all said and done...the rest of us have to figure out how to co-exist afterward. Sickening.

This shit here isn't even worth responding to. I'll just simply say that I feel for you for the injustice you feel you've suffered and that is being perpetrated on George Zimmerman now and wish you the best.

[tsdvdman]

Check the video Zimmerman don't look like a guy whose head was smashed in or nose broken. Where's the blood?
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/trayvon-ma...7#.T3O-ETHlPFE

[pimpdog]

Zimmerman said it was self defense,right? so justified, then he says "the gun just went off" and he is "devastated", which is it? where you saving your own life? or did the gun go off randomly, cant be both.