Occupy Wall Street protest

[MdR Dave]

Love is all you need

I wish that were true, Prospero.

Love is an invoice, one way or another. Invoices have to be paid.

[fred41]

Oh, and also:



~BB~

Can OWS be turned into a Democratic Party movement?

Would it not be a bit odd for a protest movement to “Occupy Wall Street” while simultaneously devoting itself to keeping Wall Street’s most lavishly funded politician in power?

...it's still going to be a two party system...people adopt their favorite parties and don't want to let go. We become victims of political OCD...often overlooking , or becoming completely blind to anything overly disturbing about our own party.(..or sometimes - easier to understand - choosing the lesser of two evils). Then to rationalize, we'll point at people behind the scenes who seem to wield too much say in gov't (i.e. Koch bros.....or George Soros...do you prefer your party owned by corporations or hedge fund managers...lol)...usually true to some extent, but often ignoring the evil in ones own adopted party of choice.

[russtafa]

you americans kill me lol it only took you people what 3 years to set it up lol and now we have canadians doing it here in toronto on saturday lol and all that tells me is we let far too many people migrate here,maybe i should start a protest about that.the stupid thing is canada never asked nor recieved any bailouts lol these morons dont even know why there gonna be there,what a joke i hope the cops use lots and lots of teargas and maybe kill a few of these nutjobs in the proccess.

yeah you are right these people just jump on the band wagon.i agree with some of the things these people say but their methods are shit

[fred41]

yeah you are right these people just jump on the band wagon.i agree with some of the things these people say but their methods are shit

..of course you do...I do to. The reason you agree with some of what they say is because they say EVERYTHING...so we're bound to agree with some of that.

...but there are lots of ironies.
One irony is that they purport to represent the working man...but then they often hinder the working man's ability to do his job.

They represent the 99%...but I saw some of that 99%...I had reason to go to Connecticut last monday...and I saw all these little well to do kids leaving their rich suburban houses to go protest in N.Y. with their signs (and Apple products)...as if to say "How cool...I was there..."

[Stavros]

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~BB~

It is no suurprise that a topic that should be in Politics & Religion is as confused as the Occupy Wall St Movement -I dont know where Bella's graph comes from but it is risible as an explanation of popular protest -corporations do not lobby for government to have more power, they lobby government to reduce it! To reduce taxes and rates, to reduce regulation, to reduce red tape -I mean, it is so elementary I don't know how the graph was even concocted.

The protest is at root a popular protest at the perceived indifference of the banking and monerary system to the real issues of jobs -or the lack of them and concomitant poverty/impoverishment, aggravated by the bonus culture that mocks the climate of austerity we are supposed to be living in. But the monetary and marketing systems of Wall St, London, Frankfurt, Hong Kong and so on, are as critical a part of the capitalist system as Apple and Microsoft and all those other corporations protestors so love to hate. Occupy Wall St -and then what? Even if there was a revolution, within six months the revolutionary government would be begging the commodities traders to come back to -yep, Wall St- and make some money for the USA.

So far in this thread all I have read is resentment, not politics -maybe that's why this confused drivel is in General Discussion, and should not be taken seriously.

[russtafa]

..of course you do...I do to. The reason you agree with some of what they say is because they say EVERYTHING...so we're bound to agree with some of that.

...but there are lots of ironies.
One irony is that they purport to represent the working man...but then they often hinder the working man's ability to do his job.

They represent the 99%...but I saw some of that 99%...I had reason to go to Connecticut last monday...and I saw all these little well to do kids leaving their rich suburban houses to go protest in N.Y. with their signs (and Apple products)...as if to say "How cool...I was there..."

hey did they have those stupid hippie street theatre things going it makes me always feel like kicking them.Once a teddy boy always a teddy boy

[russtafa]

Hey Lisa you were right about this thing spreading ,it's now happening in london

[fred41]

hey did they have those stupid hippie street theatre things going it makes me always feel like kicking them.Once a teddy boy always a teddy boy

....not sure what you mean ...and I even googled "teddy boy".

...but I have to admit (...and I'll probably take some heat for this) but if I was a cop...I'd probably want to pepper spray the living shit outta them.

[MdR Dave]

Teddy boys and mods, if I'm not mistaken, were two types of guys in '60s England.

I think Teddy boys dressed like James Dean and mods rode scooters. I have a dim recollection from a passage in "Moon the Loon", a biography of The Who's drummer, and a couple of iconic pics from Life magazine.


Any of the Brits care to correct or expound?

[onmyknees]

I see the protestors are having a rough time of it in Boston. Those Irish cops know how to use those fucking clubs...trust me on that ! Mayor Mumbles Menino isn't playin' nice ! lol