Occupy Wall Street protest

[giovanni_hotel]

[BigDF]

You realize blocking traffic keeps normal folks from getting to their normal jobs and makes it difficult for emergency vehicles to get through too, right?

Violence breeds better violence. Keep it civil if you want respect.

You are absolutely right about that, Dino. Unfortunately, there are too many out there that think violence is the only way to go. I was a UAW member for most of my working career and although I've walked picket lines, I never was on them on the first day of the strike, because that was when all the the stupid stuff happens. The guys would act out and throw shit, then the cops would come along and put half of them in jail.

If they really want to get some attention, the thing to do is for the folks to bring out there children and demonstrate who is really getting hurt by all of this money gathering and greed. Our kids are going to inherit this mess!

[russtafa]

How about a nation wide petition ?

[russtafa]

South America is about: Supermodels -- and supershemales --
Canada is about: shitty music and bears -- ha ha ha!
And we're about "freedom" and Jesus...
And Europe is all about Art -- ha ha!

How about KD Lang i love her music

[Prospero]

How about KD Lang i love her music

Yes... hey russ u and me agree on something

[russtafa]

Yes... hey russ u and me agree on something

some times

[onmyknees]

Thanks Ben, that looks like an interesting read, although the Kochs' shadowy role in the development of the Tea Party is already widely recognised. Your hypothesis of rightward drift is an interesting one. We've seen the same phenomenon in the UK too, with Labour under Blair moving to the centre initially and then further towards the right, and the Lib Dems being dragged in a similar direction simply because they went into coalition with the Tories. However, that drift manifested itself more in areas such as economics and business policy while at the same time social policy moved well towards the liberal, a trend thankfully being maintained by the coalition. At the Tory conference the pm, David Cameron, spoke out strongly in favour of same sex marriage. Can't see that coming from either party in the US.

What sickens me about the Tea Party is not so much its members, although I utterly deplore their racism, but the fact that they are being duped by rich and powerful right-wing forces such as the Kochs to embrace causes and policies that actually work against their interests and instead serve only to preserve the privileged position of their sponsors.

A mad world, my masters.

you're entitled to your opinion....even if you have no idea what you're talking about. That's cool....that's what opinions are about. But facts and informed opinions ....well that's another matter. You formed your opinions on a group of people you have never met, never had a conversation with, never attended a meeting with, never heard speak, but solely on what you've read from a left wing press from thousands of miles away, and from a few pictures of folks carrying signs. Your area of expertise is obviously not in research ! And you're the dweeb who comes on here in a never ending attempt to show us how literate and sophisticated you are.... even if it involves assuming another identity, and being called on it. When folks like you and others start dropping the race card, and injecting Hitler references, it's pretty clear you have no substantive ammo left. It's a fairly common political tactic really....but you being the intellect, and political scientist you should know that. It's right there in the rules for radicals. When you're opponent is gaining the upper hand....isolate them. demonize them, attack them.
Like what they stand for or don't...Like what direction the movement is headed or don't,,,,,but they changed the political landscape dramatically....much to the dismay of whiners like you, and now they must be neutralized by any means necessary. I laugh at the straight faced hypocrisy of dudes like you and Silcc, and even some of the women on here. You go into attack mode when you see a photo of some fool carrying a sign, in a crowd of thousands of otherwise peaceful folks....yet when a convicted rapist, racist, and cereal misogynist like Tyson says the most vulgar, dehumanizing things about someone like Palin, ( and the last I checked...she was a woman) with whom you despise, you either can't find the energy to speak out on it( which seems rather odd...since you have an opinion on nearly everything) ...or you giggle because you silently are cheering him on.....because she's the enemy. Tyson is too dumb to know he was being used and baited....although ignorance is no defense, not even for you. Thankfully you're just a know it all with a false identity on a tranny forum that isn't taken too seriously. And really....isn't there enough turmoil in your own country that you could be commenting on? Surely the Labor Party over there could use a brilliant political observer like you... I don't mind crossing political swords with folks here in the US, that's democracy....but it gets annoying having to do it with someone thousands of miles away looking in from the outside.
Are there bigots in the Tea Party? I'm guessing there are...there's bigots on this forum...black and white. And posts like yours serve to reinforce there's not only bigotry on here, there's lots of ignorance, but if it's coming from someone with your ideology, it's accepted. Your attempt to dismiss the beliefs and ideology of a certain group of people with whom you've never met as being pawns of the rich and powerful is offensive. I don't tie the Wall Street protestors to George Soros, or Move On or Organized Labor, (although those connections seem to be surfacing more and more)....I wouldn't be so presumptuous to assume that.....but you apparently have no problems with presumption...which is why you're a transparent phoney.

[Prospero]

On your knees (presumably the poster's real name) wrote: "Thankfully you're just a know it all with a false identity on a tranny forum "

what an angry and ill informed post this was ,OnYourKnees. There has been a vast body of research and reporting on the Tea Party (little of it published in the "left wing" press as you characterise our media here (and what clue do YOU have what we read and digest) and the Tea Party's funding by big corporations; on the ignorance of many of its members of such things as evolution, global warmingn and much else. And in the thinly veiled - and sometimes not veiled - racism of many of its members. Doubtless there are many good and sincere people in the movement. But all the evidence suggests their good natures are being exploited by cynical big business.

"Whiners" as you categorise Robert Louis (and probably me as well) don't like the tea party because of its deep seated irrationalism, because it is the voice of the ill-informed mob.

[Faldur]

Nice to see the political forum is expanding..

[Silcc69]

Nice to see the political forum is expanding..

It is so do think all of these protesters could fit in Tim's anus