Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

The attorney general of Virginia, a rising star on the Christian right, is appealing a court ruling that threw out the Old Dominion’s anti-sodomy law. Ken Cuccinelli claims his action “is not about sexual orientation” but that he wants to use the law to catch sexual predators.
Attorney General Cuccinelli is the Republican candidate for governor in one of two states that hold gubernatorial elections this fall.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepol...54-223x300.jpg Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli gets "Defender of the Constitution" award at Conservative Political Action Conference. He is defending state "crimes against nature" law, wants to give fetuses legal rights at conception.

He has asked the U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals to uphold Virginia’s “crimes against nature” law in which a 47-year-old man was convicted of criminal solicitation for asking oral sex from a minor. Due to soliciting oral sex, the crime falls under the anti-sodomy statute.
The Republican Party can’t hide Cuccinelli as it seeks to soften its image nationally. He’s on the ballot in a high-profile race.
Cuccinelli has stated: “My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They’re intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law-based country, it’s appropriate to have policies that reflect that . . . They don’t comport with natural law.
“I happen to think that it represents — to put it politely, I need my thesaurus to be polite — behavior that is not healthy to an individual and in aggregate is not healthy to society.”
He told the conservative Washington Times in 2004 that gays and lesbians want to “dismantle sodomy laws” and “get education about homosexuals and AIDS in public schools.”
(Actually, the U.S. Supreme Court dismantled sodomy laws with its 2003 Lawrence vs. Texas ruling, which ruled that private sexual acts between consenting adults are not the state’s to regulate. The high court ruling was cited by the lower court in throwing out the Virginia anti-sodomy statute.)
Cuccinelli has been a leader in the movement to put the state back into the bedroom.
He has backed legislation that would give legal rights to fetuses at the time of conception. He sought, as a legislator, to enact bills that would force the Old Dominion’s abortion clinics to shut down, and opposed a bill stating that contraception is not abortion.
“Most women who have abortions feel pressured into having them,” Cuccinelli said in 2009.
Cuccinelli and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie are the two highest-profile Republicans on the ballot in this post-presidential election year. Cuccinelli will face former Democratic National Chairman Terry McAuliffe, a close associate of the Clintons, in the race for governor of Virginia.






Virginia's Sodomy Law


Virginia outlaws consensual sexual behavior between adults with 18.2-361, "Crimes against nature". This prohibits the making or consenting to such sexual contact a Class 6 felony, punishable by a term of imprisonment not less than one year nor more than five years, or a confinement in jail for not more than twelve months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.
Virginia also bans voluntary sexual intercourse between unmarried persons with code section 18.2-344 - Fornication. This is punishable as a Class 4 misdemeanor which imposes a fine of not more than $250 upon a successful conviction.
Lewd and lascivious cohabitation is also prohibited in Virginia and is punishable as a Class 3 misdemeanor upon a first successful conviction which carries a fine of not more than $500. Subsequent convictions are punishable as Class 1 misdemeanors which have a sentence of not more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both. All parties cohabiting are subject to prosecution.
Of particular note is Virginia's traditional model for sexual crimes in which the wife is considered property and is considered to always consent to the husband's sexual advances unless serious injury took place during the event. Virginia's rape law, 18.2-61 states that "no person shall be found guilty under this subsection unless, at the time of the alleged offense, (i) the spouses were living separate and apart, or (ii) the defendant caused serious physical injury to the spouse by the use of force or violence." Identical language exists for Virginia's Forcible sodomy law, 18.2-67.1.
History


When a constitutional challenge was made to Virginia's sodomy law in 1975 (403 F. Supp 1199), the court claimed the statute was legitimate and showed the State's interest merely because it had remained on the books for so long and was rooted in Judaic and Christian law.

Although a questionable law is not removed from question by the lapse of any prescriptive period, the longevity of the Virginia statute does testify to the State's interest and its legitimacy. It is not an upstart notion; it has ancestry going back to Judaic and Christian law.
(403 F.Supp 1199, 1202)

The court opinion goes on to quote Biblical passages as justification for the law.

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
(Leviticus 18:22) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 20:13)

No other Biblical passages or Judaic teachings were offered for a comparison of the applicability of those value systems to modern day reality.
Legislative attempts


Delegate L. Karen Darner has introduced two bills that attempt to legalize consentual acts between adults. The first bill, HB 1468 would legalize "intimate sexual acts between consenting adults which are done in private and for noncommercial purposes." This concept was apparently too radical and the bill was stricken from the docket by the Courts of Justice. HB 2718 was then introduced which would decriminalize "the act of a person who carnally knows any male of female person who is 18 years of age or older." No action was taken by the Courts of Justice on this bill. Virginia Laws and Legislature are available for public perusal.



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http://www.sodomy.org/laws/virginia/

Wait a minute! I am confused!
I thought; "Virginia Is For Lovers" ????

Yeah, Hetero Vaginal penetration lovers!

If you want sod love, come to TX. I love it in my mouth & bum! I also hear that late night lonely farmers get in on the fun...just not with humans lmao

Conservatives are soooo dysfunctional. So let me get this, Cuccinelli is alright with homosexuality, but he has a problem if gay people actually have sex??lol

LMAO...if you watch the news and Colbert and Stewart. They ( Republicans ) always seem to associate gay marriage with fucking/marrying animals. IDKY but i think some repubs are trying to tell us something about themselves and whats really constantly on their minds lol.

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LMAO...if you watch the news and Colbert and Stewart. They ( Republicans ) always seem to associate gay marriage with fucking/marrying animals. IDKY but i think some repubs are trying to tell us something about themselves and whats really constantly on their minds lol.

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It never ceases to amaze me how many diehard heteros are OBSESSED with the details and mechanics of anal sex while condemning it at the same time.

That default comparison conservatives make to bestiality though when the discussion of marriage equality comes up really bothers me.

Trust me, it bothers me too. They are literally brain dead stupid.

Double bummer

Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule. Alan Colmes radio show.

Republican Family Values: Sex With A Mule


Republican anti-abortion activist
Neal Horsley admitted to having
sex with a mule. Alan Colmes radio show.




Republican Family Values: Sex With A Mule - YouTube

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LMAO...if you watch the news and Colbert and Stewart. They ( Republicans ) always seem to associate gay marriage with fucking/marrying animals. IDKY but i think some repubs are trying to tell us something about themselves and whats really constantly on their minds lol.

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REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA




•Republican aide, Alan David Berlin, was arrested on charges that he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15 year old boy while dressed in a panda costume.


•Fox News producer Aaron Bruns pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 10 years for possessing child pornography.


•Republican activist and former presidential campaign chairman Jeffrey Claude Bartleson was arrested on charges of sexually molesting a 5-year old boy.


•Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.


•Republican parole board officer and former legislator George Christian (Chris) Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have sex with him.


•Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.


•Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.


•Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.


•Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.


•Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.



•Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.




•Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.



•Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.


•Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
•Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
•Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
•Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
•Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
•Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
•Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
•Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
•Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
•Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
•Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
•Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
•Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
•Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
•Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
•Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
•Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
•Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
•Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.


Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

http://armchairsubversive.blogspot.c...edophilia.html

Anti-Gay Activist Found Guilty Of Child Pornography
SOCIETY
Anti-Gay Activist Lisa Biron Found Guilty Of Child Pornography After Video Taping Daughter

By Ashley Davis, Fri, January 11, 2013
Lisa Biron, a New Hampshire lawyer who worked with an anti-gay Christian-right organization, has been found guilty of child pornography after she videotaped her own daughter having sex with two men on several occasions.



According to Salon, Biron, 43, is facing a minimum sentence of 25 years after she was convicted by a jury on Thursday. It took the jury less than an hour to deliberate.

In November, Biron was arrested by the FBI and accused of eight felony counts after she videotaped a 14-year-old girl having sex with men. Later, the girl was identified as Biron's daughter.

Biron also videotaped herself having sex with her daughter.

On Biron's Facebook page, she claims the Bible is her favorite book and that she worked for Alliance Defending Freedom.

Alliance Defending Freedom is a "servant ministry" seeking to transform the legal system "for religious liberty, the sanctity of life, and marriage and family."

The group is blatantly anti-gay, and issues "dire warnings" about "the homosexual agenda," particularly in their book, authored by president Alan Sears an senior director Craig Osten.

In the book, they explain that the "homosexual agenda" will destroy religious liberty and free speech. One chapter claims that pedophilia on college campuses is a result of homosexuality, and that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked.

As Biron's case broke out and she was arrested, ADF removed all traces of her from their website and Facebook page. They even clamed in a "CBS News" report that Biron never worked for them.

According to an LGBT blog called Joe.My.God, ADF is continuing to remove her name from their site and Facebook, and is deleting any mention of her name by users on their page.

While it is true that Biron might not have been a formal employee of ADF, she did participate and was a member in their "Honor Corps," according to John Aravosis at Americablog.

The Honor Corps is a group that recognizes allied attorneys who participate in 450 hours of pro bono services for the group. Those who become members receive ADF perks, like referrals, job opportunities, and access to resume postings.

In March of 2011, she was listed by the ADF as an "Allied Attorney Success Story."

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Lisa Biron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Westboro: We'll Picket Boston Marathon Funerals

Westboro Baptist Church blames gay marriage for bombings

Newser) – We'd call this a new low for Westboro Baptist Church, but these are the people who threatened to picket Sandy Hook. Now they say they'll picket the funerals of the Boston Marathon victims, the Raw Story reports. The church's reasoning, per a press release: "GOD SENT THE BOMBS! How many more terrifying ways will you have the LORD injure and kill your fellow countrymen because you insist on nation-dooming filthy [gay slur] marriage?! ... Massachusetts invited this special wrath from God Almighty when it was the FIRST STATE to pass same-sex marriage."

A We the People petition calls for the WBC to be banned from the funerals, and a Twitter account associated with the Anonymous hacktivists threatens the church: "Dear @WBCSays, I wouldn't f--k with the people of Boston when they're mad. #BostonBeatDown." It was Anonymous that thwarted the Westboro's Sandy Hook plan, the Raw Story notes; the hackers publicized the hotel where church members were staying, and a human shield was formed to block them. Yesterday, the New York Post ran a piece by Libby Phelps Alvarez, a granddaughter of WBC founder Fred Phelps who left the church—and now fights for gay rights.


http://www.newser.com/story/166324/w...-funerals.html

Montana Rep. Dave Hagstrom Says Gay Sex Is 'Deviate,' But Says He's Not 'Homophobic'


A Montana lawmaker said Tuesday that he will vote no on decriminalize gay sex in his state because he thinks homosexuality is "deviate.""To me sex is primarily purposed to produce people," said state Rep. Dave Hagstrom (R-Billings), according to a video shot by local news outlet KXLH-TV. "Sex that doesn't produce people is deviate."

Hagstrom noted the word "deviate" isn't necessarily a bad thing. "Deviate simply means it's not normal, it's not typical," he said. Hagstrom also claimed that he has homosexual friends, "so there's no homophobic issues going on here with me."

Hagstrom made these remarks in an attempt to explain why he was voting against Senate Bill 107, a measure that would erase language from Montana law classifying homosexual sex as "deviate sexual conduct," thus making gay sex a felony offense.

The bill, which was passed by the state Senate in February, won a majority of votes in the Montana House on Tuesday, the Associated Press reported. The only lawmakers to vote against the measure were Republicans who said their religion prevented them from endorsing it, KXLH reported.

Hagstrom also compared gay sex to a pen that he held for House members to see. "This pen has two purposes," he said. "The first purpose, of course, is to write. The second purpose is to retract, so that it doesn't leave a stain on your shirt or your purse. One is primary and the other is secondary. To me, sex is primarily purposed to produce people. That's why we're all here."

The bill must be voted on again in the state House before it can be sent to Gov. Steve Bullock to be signed into law.

Click the video above to watch Hagstrom's remarks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3054834.html

Are you sure that "doubles down" is the right term to use here??? :ignore::ignore::ignore:

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Conservatives are soooo dysfunctional. So let me get this, Cuccinelli is alright with homosexuality, but he has a problem if gay people actually have sex??lol

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That is exactly the stated position of the Church of England. They're a bit sexually constipated too.

Idiots, they say they are all for freedom but they have their noses in everyone's bedroom.

Kenny absolutely adores the spotlight, and he makes sure that he comes up with bullshit like this every month so he can get his name in the paper.

Northern Virginia is a very civilized, culturally diverse and great place to live, but go 2 hours west or south and you're suddenly in the bible belt and in Gluckville, USA. It's like 2 different states. About 70% of VA's revenue comes from Northern Va, yet Larry and his other brother, Larry in Gluckville seem to get all these ridiculous laws passed through somehow.

Its really not that bad down here.the only thing i would complain about is the lack of services for the lgbt community and there aren't enough latin men lol.socially tho I've never felt safer and more comfortable, most people are pretty cool.

Just to speak up for REAL conservatism here: "conservatives" who claim the "family values" and "religious right" titles aren't REAL conservatives, they're just theocrats. We REAL conservatives, the ones who actually DO want to get government out of people's private lives and businesses, really don't care whether yours is an innie or an outie, nor do we care what you do with your respective appendage or orifice. (If we did, I wouldn't be here.)

ok...then why don't you run for Congress???

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I would, but I tend to just go on angry rants when placed in situations where my IQ is clearly the highest in the room :D

hahaha hell i'd watch the new then, if you were Filibustering! Especially Colbert and Stewart.

Yeah, THAT I could probably do! The rules of parliamentary procedure, though? Not so much!

Make new ones! Make some really cool new bills and place typical " old people repub" cover page on it, then BOOM, new cool, helpful, and useful law....they dont read that shit...they'll pass it ;0 LOL

Hmm... let's see how stodgy and official I can sound. "A bill to affirm the application of the Equal Protection Clause to all citizens of the United States. This bill, in relation to Section I of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, guarantees equal protection under the law to all citizens of the United States of America regardless of race, ethnicity, skin color, age, sex, gender or orientation. Upon passage of this bill into law, no federal, state or local government entity shall discriminate, withhold benefits from or deny the rights of any United States citizen on any of the above bases."

There! Maybe it's too obvious to not attract attention to itself, but that shouldn't be a problem, because anyone who votes against that act would make themselves look like an asshole. Not that that hasn't happened before, but given the changing climate in this country? I don't see it boding too well for them this time around.

I like it....yeah just include a shit ton of big fancy words...they won't know what they mean...just tell them its makes them more money, enslaves more people, fences get built, more oil, more military, and tacos for everyone LMAO

Haha! I'll attach it as a rider to a bill to go to war with Iran or North Korea or some other such non-threat :D

hahaha yeah! include that the military has to make the missiles and rockets look more like penis's lol

lmao Nah, that's a separate bill: the Make All Rockets Look Like an Austin Powers Gag Act.

HAHAHA nice!

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Good news, the Jesus freak fundie lost his race for governor.