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    The attorney general of Virginia, a rising star on the Christian right, is appealing a court ruling that threw out the Old Dominion’s anti-sodomy law. Ken Cuccinelli claims his action “is not about sexual orientation” but that he wants to use the law to catch sexual predators.
    Attorney General Cuccinelli is the Republican candidate for governor in one of two states that hold gubernatorial elections this fall.
    Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli gets "Defender of the Constitution" award at Conservative Political Action Conference. He is defending state "crimes against nature" law, wants to give fetuses legal rights at conception.

    He has asked the U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals to uphold Virginia’s “crimes against nature” law in which a 47-year-old man was convicted of criminal solicitation for asking oral sex from a minor. Due to soliciting oral sex, the crime falls under the anti-sodomy statute.
    The Republican Party can’t hide Cuccinelli as it seeks to soften its image nationally. He’s on the ballot in a high-profile race.
    Cuccinelli has stated: “My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They’re intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law-based country, it’s appropriate to have policies that reflect that . . . They don’t comport with natural law.
    “I happen to think that it represents — to put it politely, I need my thesaurus to be polite — behavior that is not healthy to an individual and in aggregate is not healthy to society.”
    He told the conservative Washington Times in 2004 that gays and lesbians want to “dismantle sodomy laws” and “get education about homosexuals and AIDS in public schools.”
    (Actually, the U.S. Supreme Court dismantled sodomy laws with its 2003 Lawrence vs. Texas ruling, which ruled that private sexual acts between consenting adults are not the state’s to regulate. The high court ruling was cited by the lower court in throwing out the Virginia anti-sodomy statute.)
    Cuccinelli has been a leader in the movement to put the state back into the bedroom.
    He has backed legislation that would give legal rights to fetuses at the time of conception. He sought, as a legislator, to enact bills that would force the Old Dominion’s abortion clinics to shut down, and opposed a bill stating that contraception is not abortion.
    “Most women who have abortions feel pressured into having them,” Cuccinelli said in 2009.
    Cuccinelli and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie are the two highest-profile Republicans on the ballot in this post-presidential election year. Cuccinelli will face former Democratic National Chairman Terry McAuliffe, a close associate of the Clintons, in the race for governor of Virginia.






    Virginia's Sodomy Law


    Virginia outlaws consensual sexual behavior between adults with 18.2-361, "Crimes against nature". This prohibits the making or consenting to such sexual contact a Class 6 felony, punishable by a term of imprisonment not less than one year nor more than five years, or a confinement in jail for not more than twelve months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.
    Virginia also bans voluntary sexual intercourse between unmarried persons with code section 18.2-344 - Fornication. This is punishable as a Class 4 misdemeanor which imposes a fine of not more than $250 upon a successful conviction.
    Lewd and lascivious cohabitation is also prohibited in Virginia and is punishable as a Class 3 misdemeanor upon a first successful conviction which carries a fine of not more than $500. Subsequent convictions are punishable as Class 1 misdemeanors which have a sentence of not more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both. All parties cohabiting are subject to prosecution.
    Of particular note is Virginia's traditional model for sexual crimes in which the wife is considered property and is considered to always consent to the husband's sexual advances unless serious injury took place during the event. Virginia's rape law, 18.2-61 states that "no person shall be found guilty under this subsection unless, at the time of the alleged offense, (i) the spouses were living separate and apart, or (ii) the defendant caused serious physical injury to the spouse by the use of force or violence." Identical language exists for Virginia's Forcible sodomy law, 18.2-67.1.
    History


    When a constitutional challenge was made to Virginia's sodomy law in 1975 (403 F. Supp 1199), the court claimed the statute was legitimate and showed the State's interest merely because it had remained on the books for so long and was rooted in Judaic and Christian law.
    Although a questionable law is not removed from question by the lapse of any prescriptive period, the longevity of the Virginia statute does testify to the State's interest and its legitimacy. It is not an upstart notion; it has ancestry going back to Judaic and Christian law.
    (403 F.Supp 1199, 1202)
    The court opinion goes on to quote Biblical passages as justification for the law.
    Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
    (Leviticus 18:22) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
    (Leviticus 20:13)
    No other Biblical passages or Judaic teachings were offered for a comparison of the applicability of those value systems to modern day reality.
    Legislative attempts


    Delegate L. Karen Darner has introduced two bills that attempt to legalize consentual acts between adults. The first bill, HB 1468 would legalize "intimate sexual acts between consenting adults which are done in private and for noncommercial purposes." This concept was apparently too radical and the bill was stricken from the docket by the Courts of Justice. HB 2718 was then introduced which would decriminalize "the act of a person who carnally knows any male of female person who is 18 years of age or older." No action was taken by the Courts of Justice on this bill. Virginia Laws and Legislature are available for public perusal.



    http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepol...ti-sodomy-law/


    http://www.sodomy.org/laws/virginia/


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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    Wait a minute! I am confused!
    I thought; "Virginia Is For Lovers" ????



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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    Yeah, Hetero Vaginal penetration lovers!

    If you want sod love, come to TX. I love it in my mouth & bum! I also hear that late night lonely farmers get in on the fun...just not with humans lmao



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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    Conservatives are soooo dysfunctional. So let me get this, Cuccinelli is alright with homosexuality, but he has a problem if gay people actually have sex??lol


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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    LMAO...if you watch the news and Colbert and Stewart. They ( Republicans ) always seem to associate gay marriage with fucking/marrying animals. IDKY but i think some repubs are trying to tell us something about themselves and whats really constantly on their minds lol.


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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    Quote Originally Posted by EvaCassini View Post
    LMAO...if you watch the news and Colbert and Stewart. They ( Republicans ) always seem to associate gay marriage with fucking/marrying animals. IDKY but i think some repubs are trying to tell us something about themselves and whats really constantly on their minds lol.
    It never ceases to amaze me how many diehard heteros are OBSESSED with the details and mechanics of anal sex while condemning it at the same time.

    That default comparison conservatives make to bestiality though when the discussion of marriage equality comes up really bothers me.


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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    Trust me, it bothers me too. They are literally brain dead stupid.



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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

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    Smile Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule. Alan Colmes radio show.

    Republican Family Values: Sex With A Mule


    Republican anti-abortion activist
    Neal Horsley admitted to having
    sex with a mule. Alan Colmes radio show.






    Quote Originally Posted by EvaCassini View Post
    LMAO...if you watch the news and Colbert and Stewart. They ( Republicans ) always seem to associate gay marriage with fucking/marrying animals. IDKY but i think some repubs are trying to tell us something about themselves and whats really constantly on their minds lol.



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    Default Re: Virginia AG doubles down on anti-sodomy law

    REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA




    •Republican aide, Alan David Berlin, was arrested on charges that he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15 year old boy while dressed in a panda costume.


    •Fox News producer Aaron Bruns pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 10 years for possessing child pornography.


    •Republican activist and former presidential campaign chairman Jeffrey Claude Bartleson was arrested on charges of sexually molesting a 5-year old boy.


    •Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.


    •Republican parole board officer and former legislator George Christian (Chris) Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have sex with him.


    •Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.


    •Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.


    •Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.


    •Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.


    •Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.



    •Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.




    •Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.



    •Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.


    •Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
    •Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
    •Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
    •Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
    •Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
    •Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
    •Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
    •Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
    •Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
    •Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
    •Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
    •Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
    •Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
    •Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
    •Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
    •Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
    •Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
    •Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
    •Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.


    Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
    Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
    Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
    Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
    Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
    Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
    Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
    Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
    Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
    Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
    Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
    Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
    Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
    Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

    http://armchairsubversive.blogspot.c...edophilia.html


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