17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

Natina thank you!!!!

you are welcome!


A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv

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A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv


Here's a Mother's Day message from Sabrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin, made in partnership with "Second Chance on Shoot First" -- an organization which combats laws, such as Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, that encourage nervous gun owners to shoot in haste and repent at leisure.
Watch the video AFTER THE JUMP, and pay a visit to Second Chance on Shoot First, which allows American visitors to see where their states stand on Stand Your Ground, and provides links to the appropriate state webpages so visitors can tell their governments how they feel about it.



http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv

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Natina thank you!!!!

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like Natina said.

So you want to take people's rights away from them to defend themselves? Here's a news story, just another textbook example, on why various states have Stand Your Ground laws.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/07...wii-vet-death/

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So you want to take people's rights away from them to defend themselves? Here's a news story, just another textbook example, on why various states have Stand Your Ground laws.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/07...wii-vet-death/

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Sad - but irrelevant to this completely.

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So you want to take people's rights away from them to defend themselves? Here's a news story, just another textbook example, on why various states have Stand Your Ground laws.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/07...wii-vet-death/

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I assume you know the law. So, what is the difference between the Castle doctrine and a stand-your-ground law? If you do know the difference, why are you mentioning the stand-your-ground law for that horrible crime? Wouldn't the Castle doctrine matter in that case?

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I assume you know the law. So, what is the difference between the Castle doctrine and a stand-your-ground law? If you do know the difference, why are you mentioning the stand-your-ground law for that horrible crime? Wouldn't the Castle doctrine matter in that case?

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I assume you know the law. So, what is the difference between the Castle doctrine and a stand-your-ground law? If you do know the difference, why are you mentioning the stand-your-ground law for that horrible crime? Wouldn't the Castle doctrine matter in that case?

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Because the SYG is a law and not a doctrine I think. Wikipedia has this definition, although I am sure the 'Make my Day' phrase was first used in Dirty Harry.

Castle doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A Castle Doctrine (also known as a Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an American legal doctrine that designates a person's abode (or, in some states, any place legally occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a place in which the person has certain protections and immunities and may in certain circumstances use force, up to and including deadly force, to defend against an intruder without becoming liable to prosecution. Typically deadly force is considered justified, and a defense of justifiable homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor reasonably fears imminent peril of death or serious bodily harm to himself or another".The doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked, but a set of principles which is incorporated in some form in the law of most states.
The term derives from the historic English common law dictum that "an Englishman's home is his castle". This concept was established as English law by 17th century jurist Sir Edward Coke, in his The Institutes of the Laws of England, 1628.This was carried by colonists to the New World, who later removed "Englishman" from the phrase, which thereby became simply the Castle Doctrine.The term has been used to imply a person's absolute right in England to exclude anyone from their home, although this has always had restrictions, and since the late twentieth century bailiffs have also had increasing powers of entry.
The term "Make My Day Law" arose at the time of the 1985 Colorado statute that protects people from any criminal charge or civil suit if they use force – including deadly force – against an invader of the home.The law's nickname is a reference to the line "Go ahead, make my day" uttered by actor Clint Eastwood's character Harry Callahan in the 1983 film Sudden Impact, inviting a suspect to make himself liable to deadly retaliation by attacking Callahan.

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Because the SYG is a law and not a doctrine I think. Wikipedia has this definition, although I am sure the 'Make my Day' phrase was first used in Dirty Harry.

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Only have a handful of states haven't incorporated the doctrine into their laws. So, the doctrine is law in the vast majority of states. The SYG law is different from Castle doctrine.

And both doctrines are wanting for improvements. They both have the following form: Under certain circumstances (call them C), a person (call him P) can use deadly force to protect him- or herself without becoming liable to prosecution. But surely we can't just take P's word for it that circumstances C pertained. Yet it appears that's the way many (including some of Florida's enforcement community) would like to interpret these doctrines. SYG and Castle doctrines as currently understood do not lessen crime or increase safety. They increase the probability of violence and tragedy. More guns on the streets or in the home do not make the streets or the home safer.