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    Default Re: police going to arrest zimmerman on these charges but stop cause his dad is a jud

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    Only because you brought it up. and

    I see plenty of people killed and the family never has a laywer as the state handles the prosecution.


    Again I am confused by what you believe and what you're surrounded by.

    MIRANDA RIGHTS
    "You have the right to speak to an attorney.
    If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.
    ".

    So what's your question again?



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman profiled Trayvon Martin, pursued him, frightened him, confronted him then shot him during a struggle, prosecutors alleged Thursday.

    That's what the probable-cause affidavit filed Thursday by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey reveals. It is the first look at the criminal case that prosecutors plan to mount against Zimmerman.


    The account is strikingly similar to the story that Trayvon's parents, the family's attorneys and civil-rights leaders have told for weeks — that Trayvon was an innocent victim hunted down and killed because he was black.

    Herr found the affidavit legally sufficient to establish probable cause and ordered Zimmerman to appear for arraignment — when defendants formally enter a plea — on May 29 before Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler.

    But the probable-cause affidavit, prepared by two investigators in her office, spelled out the bare bones of her case.

    To Trayvon, it says, Zimmerman was a scary man, following him for some unknown reason. To Zimmerman, Trayvon was someone who was about to commit a crime, "a f------ punk," the affidavit said.

    The affidavit offered evidence the state's position on three key points:

    •"Zimmerman confronted Martin," it says, an apparent contradiction of Zimmerman's version of events.

    •The state will argue that the voice heard crying for help in the background of one 911 call is Trayvon's. According to the affidavit, Trayvon's mother listened to the recording and identified the voice as her son's.

    •State investigators will rely on the testimony of a friend of Trayvon's who told them she talked to the teenager on the phone in the lead-up to the shooting and heard the confrontation.

    Based on the description, she appears to be the girl described by Martin family attorneys as his girlfriend.

    When interviewed by state investigators, "The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why," the affidavit said.

    Trayvon tried to run home, the affidavit says, but Zimmerman ignored the advice of a police dispatcher and continued pursuing him on foot.

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-show-accident



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    Default Re: police going to arrest zimmerman on these charges but stop cause his dad is a jud

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    Again I am confused by what you believe and what you're surrounded by.

    MIRANDA RIGHTS
    "You have the right to speak to an attorney.
    If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.".

    So what's your question again?
    Martins family was read its rights??? I didn't know that.



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    Default Re: police going to arrest zimmerman on these charges but stop cause his dad is a jud

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    Martins family was read its rights??? I didn't know that.
    You are one of those huh?

    You claimed you seen people killed am I correct?
    "I see plenty of people killed and the family never has a laywer as the state handles the prosecution"

    So I put up the Miranda's rights to let you see that if you don't have a lawyer the courts will appoint one for you, just as a guide, no Trayvon's parents weren't arrested, but they need an attorney, not STATE APPOINTED PROSECUTORS to handle other things like a civil suit against the police station etc.

    Now what I meant when I said Natina should be the attorney on the case it could mean the prosecution or personal attorney because Natina has a lot of facts and she present them well. So you shouldn't be confused. All in all the prosecution is not only for the state guy but for Trayvon's family as well.


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    Yes i am one of "those".
    Posting stuff found on the internet does not make a laywer only a researcher. Just like the guy who kills someone might not be a murderer.........

    Gotta love the innocent untill proven guilty mentality here. I'm sorry for trying to bring another side to your media fed lynching.

    I'll go away now



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    innocent until proven guilty is only in the courts

    a citizen can say you Are guilty until proven innocent or you are highly suspect so do not trust you but that could make you paranoid.
    you have o use your best judgment



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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Natina is correct, the public has no burden of proof. Funny isn't it...that the police on the scene interpreted the SYG law as saying that Zimmerman had no burden of proof either before he found Trayvon guilty of being a life threatening, skittles armed, hoodie wearing, African-American seventeen year old kid and sot him dead? What's good for the goose...


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Ok, on the contrary to what you said, I have worked in the legal system for 12 years so ummmmm don't do the "THINK YOU KNOW WHO I AM" and the things Natina is pointing out and showing is actual evidence, yet you have provided none yet only babble about what should and who shouldn't rhetoric. Counter act her evidence IF YOU CAN!!!

    Fact is Zimmerman killed a teen in cold blood if you can even find the imf of an inkling of logical proof to prove that wrong, I will take my hat off to you!!!

    You also tell me how the hell can a teen be called a dam John Doe for three days and they got his info, you tell me that Mr. You know what the fuck you're talking about. You tell me how the hell a man goes to neighborhood watch training and the rule says 1. don't carry a weapon 2. don't engage a person call the police. Zimmerman violated both rules, why? Because he intended to shoot someone that's why he carried the dam gun. You tell me what he carried it for, decorations? Zimmerman : "OH I THINK I WILL CARRY A LOADED GUN BECAUSE IT LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL ON MY HIP". Fuck outta here with that crap!!!

    You tell me how the fuck Zimmerman assault and officer of the law in 2005 and get released then kills a teen and gets released when he was docked in a manslaughter position on a police report then let go. How the hell the Police Dept say he had a clean record when he also assaulted his girlfriend and she got a restraining order against him. This clearly shows he is a violate ass man he has a dam history, so is that a lie too?

    Did he not kill the teen? How the hell Zimmerman say he got clocked over his head on his left side at his SUV when the SUV was not where they were? They were inside the dam complex on THE GRASS!!! This is stated by witnesses. So you mean Trayvon dragged him all the way in the gated community? If you heard the tape Zimmerman said himself Trayvon ran around a corner, and you can hear Zimmerman get out of his car and go after him, FROM HIS SUV!!! Zimmerman is a coward and he lied.

    Also are you trying to tell me the records of Tray's girlfriend is not adequate evidence that you can hear Trayvon saying "SOMEONE IS FOLLOWING ME"? This is pure evidence that Zimmerman went after Trayvon and THE STAND YOUR GROUND DON'T APPLY TO HIS ASS!! and I can go on and on!!!

    There's so much evidence on this clown it's pathetic he should be locked away!!!

    In this case Zimmerman is a murderer!!! A killer pick your poison!!!

    Plus you're talking to the wrong person, at best your aim is very week!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by buds View Post
    Yes i am one of "those".
    Posting stuff found on the internet does not make a laywer only a researcher. Just like the guy who kills someone might not be a murderer.........

    Gotta love the innocent untill proven guilty mentality here. I'm sorry for trying to bring another side to your media fed lynching.

    I'll go away now


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    Default Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Natina is correct, the public has no burden of proof. Funny isn't it...that the police on the scene interpreted the SYG law as saying that Zimmerman had no burden of proof either before he found Trayvon guilty of being a life threatening, skittles armed, hoodie wearing, African-American seventeen year old kid and sot him dead? What's good for the goose...
    Exactly, these Zimmerman supporters they look so stupid supporting him, it's their right to do so but in the process they look stupid, and they know it. They can't give one shred of logical evidence that shows Zimmerman is innocent.



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    A Mother's Day Message From Trayvon's Mom: VIDEO
    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv


    Here's a Mother's Day message from Sabrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin, made in partnership with "Second Chance on Shoot First" -- an organization which combats laws, such as Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, that encourage nervous gun owners to shoot in haste and repent at leisure.
    Watch the video AFTER THE JUMP, and pay a visit to Second Chance on Shoot First, which allows American visitors to see where their states stand on Stand Your Ground, and provides links to the appropriate state webpages so visitors can tell their governments how they feel about it.



    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/a-m...#ixzz1un9xiwfv



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