Yeah why not take a nap on the beach in the Maldives Russtafa - by way of offering some scientific verification of your lunatic arguments
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Yeah why not take a nap on the beach in the Maldives Russtafa - by way of offering some scientific verification of your lunatic arguments
:dancing:better to buy all the mansions around the harbour .with your lunatic arguments i will be a very rich man in Atlantis
:dead-1:Look,look the water is coming in!Look,look the water is going out.Don't they call that a tide?
No, that's not the tide; it's your investment washing out to sea! lol
My late mother used to live in Atlantis, but that was a long, long time ago.
wow easy come ,easy go that's the tide for you :)not climate changeQuote:
Originally Posted by trish
Stavros - you must be a very, very ancient greek
Russtafa... could you change your onscreen name to Nero
Stavros - you must be a very, very ancient greek
? I don't get it -a) in her most recent incarnation, mother was born in Lambeth; b) in her previous incarnations, Ancient Egypt, and Atlantis -neither of which were Greek; more specifically, they were not Lambeth either. There is a link there somewhere, it took me decades to work out what it was she was talking about. As to my previous incarnations, I have a theory about it...but...
We are all affected by climate change one way or the other...
I experienced climate change one time... We flew out of a cold Seattle and landed in Maui, whew this is some serial stuff.
Sorry Faldur, this thread is about a change of climate, not a change of clothes, even if you do look swell in a Lei and shorts...I was in Seattle once -it was on my itinerary and I am a devotee of The Parallax View- but oh dear, once you have been up the space needle, it is awfully dull -but thats before Amanda K was born...
:dead:i believe in climate change it's even have divided into four seasons a year on the calendar ,spring,summer ,autumn ,winter
Now russtafa, you're being an idiot. The change of seasons is not a change in climate and indeed a stable climate would display the periodic seasonal fluctuations that accompany the relative tilt of the Earth with respect to the Sun as it orbits the same.
The present climate shift is due to the energy imbalance caused by a relatively constant mean input of solar energy but a diminishing capacity to radiate energy away into space due to the increasing volume of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. One effect in the Northern Hemisphere is a northward shift of flora and fauna. Another is the melting of the Arctic Ice Cap.
This is not the first time the overabundance of a biological family created a massive atmospheric change. Before the evolution of photosynthesis the atmosphere has just about zero oxygen. Oxygen breathers wouldn't have survived. The oxygen now in the atmosphere was dumped there by oxygen producing plants.
yeah, yeah, yeah,when i see all the rich folks selling up along the harbour i will know its real and not a scamQuote:
Originally Posted by trish
Well ignoring the words of blithering fools here, my response to the initial question here is YES. Unless we do something. James Lovelock of the Gaia principle believes it is already too late.
yes so why should they pay any attention to you :dead:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Gaia principle is that hippies and rolling joints and beat the establishment maaaaaan lol
The fools response. In the face of vast scientific evidence. Yep guys - it is, of course, all a vast conspiracy.
yep a fools response but some idiots will always buy magic beansQuote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Exactly. There's science and then there's "magic." There's intellectual integrity and there are lies. The wonderful (and truly incredible) news that we can burn all the fossil fuel and release all the long sequestered carbon dioxide we want without disrupting the dynamic thermal equilibrium of the atmosphere is the bag of beans being sold to you by the big oil corporations. Follow the really big money.Quote:
Originally Posted by russtafa
Yup, and keep your eye on who receives money for carbon credits.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Hey Stav, you know how you tell when its summer in Seattle? ... The rain gets warmer..
It will be corporations and businesses, not climate scientists, I assure you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faldur
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Originally Posted by trish
Ahh.. So Al Gore.. ok got it
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Originally Posted by Faldur
Funny someone said that to me at a bustop in Manchester onetime. The rain capital of the UK.
Hey Stav, you know how you tell when its summer in Seattle? ... The rain gets warmer..
It's not the warm rain you should be worried about, Mr Faldur, its the hard rain that's gonna fall...they have warm rain in Singapore, I was ok with that. But San Francisco? That's a whole other type a rain....but the view from the space needle over Puget Sound, one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. Shame to lose it.
Curious, how are we going to lose it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Often said in Scotland too, Prospero. There's a variation in Cornwall where they say that in summer at least the rain is vertical....Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
I have a vision of the climate change deniers still pouring scorn on the great conspiracy as the rising waters finally close over their heads.
I go walking in the Alps every other year, and can say from the evidence of my own eyes that the rate at which glaciers are disappearing is frightening, What were formidable ice sheets just 15 years or so ago are now just scraps in a muddy landscape. And what is the main carbon deposit up there in these 3,000m mountains? Diesel from cars and industrial applications.
The Alps have a delicately balanced climate and ecology, but they also have a profound effect and act as a control valve of sorts on the relatively benign weather of much of the western European landmass. As the glaciers continue to erode, the airflow that passes over the alps changes too, and if it continues at the present rate, the glorious high alpine scenery and way of life will go first, but the impact on agriculture in northern Italy, southern Germany, the midi in France and Austria will be immense. Wine yields and other crops are already down and the region has had worse flooding, again of arable land, in the last ten years than in the previous hundred.
I'm no scientist, haven't read much on the subject, but I believe the evidence of my own eyes. It may be too late already.
gurgle,gurgle the water is over my head a polar bear just floated by:dead:Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
The science of cimate change was born in the Alps with John Tyndall's observations of glaciers in the mid-19th century...
Sometimes it isn't worth the effort of replying, but I've done it anyway. :dead:Quote:
Originally Posted by russtafa
climate change is good for a laugh
....If you enjoy graveyard humour.
good for you can i sell you some magical climate change beans
Science is the opposite of magic. It is you, russtafa who bought the magic beans; and judging by your inane belching they have given you a bad case of gas.
yeah Trish that's why all the rich people are selling their mansions on the coast and running for higher ground .if they don't believe this shit i cant see any reason to believe these fairy tales.This stuff is a UN scam to suck the morons in and nobody has brought it:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Russtafa... do you sincerely believe this? About the UN? Do you think the UN then is a sinister organisation out to control the world? I am asking in this in all sincererity? Where is your evidence for this vast conspiracy?
yes i do that's why the Al Queda bombed the UN building in Bagdad because they thought it was a threat and so do i
ahhhh so you're a member of al Queda... their primitive medievalism and yours are a fine match
Not sure I would use the word sinister, but the UN would like nothing more than a world wide tax that comes through their coffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
the UN would love nothing better than a world governmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Prospero