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The Boston Globe, Friday, April 19, 2013, 7:38pm EDT
POLICE BELIEVE SUSPECT PINNED IN WATERTOWN
Shots reportedly fired in hunt for suspected bomber.
By SHELLEY MURPHY, MILTON J. VALENCIA, WESLEY LOWERY, AKILAH JOHNSON, ERIC MOSKOWITZ, LISA WANGSNESS, BRIAN MacQUARRIE, MARIA CRAMER, JOHN R. ELLEMENT, MARTIN FINUCANE and MATT ROCHELEAU, The Boston Globe
WATERTOWN — Police believe they have located the desperate 19-year-old suspect in the deadly Boston Marathon terror bombings at a home on Franklin Street in Watertown, a source told the Globe. Residents reported hearing shots fired and police racing to the area.
The source said police believed Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was pinned down, but no further details were immediately available.
The new developments happened just moments after authorities announced that the suspect had announced eluded a dragnet, abandoning a car and escaping on foot.
Residents in the area described pandemonium outside their doors.
Lisa Bontempi said in a telephone interview, “There’s a lot of shooting. ... I’m really scared. I’ve got to go.”
“We’re seeing every officer rushing to the corner. We’ve heard gunshots. We’ve got cops in bulletproof vests and an ambulance is there, with someone carrying out a stretcher,’’ said Louise Harrison Lepera, another Franklin street resident.
“There’s a lot of cops outside,” said another resident, who declined to give her name. “Oh, my God, they’re just crouched down by the cars. But I heard a couple of pops, I’m not sure what they were exactly.”
Daniel Cantor, a resident of 84 Franklin Street, said he heard “a number of gunshots” in rapid succession just after 7:10 p.m.
He estimated it to be more than 30 gunshots but less than 50 to the west of his home, which is at 84 Franklin St., toward Washburn Street. “It was the kind that I did not want to be near,” Cantor said.
Cantor said he, his wife, and two kids were hiding under a bed when a reporter called just after 7:15 p.m.
Heavily armed police had been searching a 20-block area of Watertown since about 11 p.m. Thursday night.
Scott Helman, Marcella Bombardieri, Brian MacQuarrie, Martine Powers, and Maria Sacchetti of the Globe staff and Globe correspondents Jeremy C. Fox, Haven Orecchio-Egresitz, Jaclyn Reiss, and Gal Tziperman Lotan contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2013 The New York Times Company
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Just moments ago, I heard on the police scanner you provided that the person pinned in that boat is now in custody. I was watching CBS News and there was a loud cheer from the crowd that gathered outside. There is no official confirmation that he is THE suspect.
Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand?
Reality Check: Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand? - Ben Swann - YouTube
UPDATE: Boston Mayor Thomas Menino just tweeted "we got him".
Boston manhunt: 19-year-old suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev 'in custody' after stand-off in Watertown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir Putin
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8579362.html
Boston Bombings & Overlooked Tragedies:
Boston Bombings & Overlooked Tragedies | Brainwash Update - YouTube
We have him now. He'll be kept in a cage in America for the rest of his life. Remember his offense. Been easier for him if he off'd himself. Let the suffering begin.
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Thank God, they got him alive. He's got tons of stuff that American and Russian LE will want to ask him about. under humane conditions of course. As the CIA guy said in the movie ZERO DARK 30 "dude, I'm going to break you.... it's biology"
Who Is Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the Man at the Center of the Boston Manhunt?
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...-boston/64382/
Boston suspect's web page venerates Islam, Chechen independence:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...93I0JL20130419
Police/Law Enforcement did a great job on the final scene. Patience paid off. People applauding squad cars as they drive by. Nice work, fellas.
People pumping their fists chanting "USA! USA! USA!" Smiling now.
What a terrible week we've been through. I live about an hour away but I'm in Boston all the time (in fact even last night and saw the cops everywhere).
I've been down that stretch of Boylston street where the bombings happened countless times. I also went to 2 semesters to Umass Dartmouth, where the younger Tsarnaev brother went to college. And lastly, I worked really close to the Arsenal Mall area of Watertown, so this is ALL taking place in my backyard.
So yeah, it hits home and I'm not sure what more to say about this. I'm just VERY HAPPY they caught him alive, because if both ended up dead there would be so many unanswered questions, and conspiracy theroists will be theroizing forever.
I've got NO tolerance for that bullshit, because the combined efforts of law enforcement are So dedicated to piecing this case together.
Now that we got him, we will find out WHY, and HOW.
-Tara
the 7/11 robbery was unrelated. But they stopped there to get gas or something when in one of the getaway vehicles (presumably)
I heard that too. Heck of a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tara Emory
Take care, Tara. The West Coast is definitely hurting for you and trying to heal with you too.
Well done. And we will see that we don't have to send terrorists to Gitmo and we can try them through our court system and still have justice,
The fact that the prosecution of this tragedy will be constitutional will not take the horrific loss away but it might make those loses mean something more than it would otherwise.
new info- the carjacking happened AT the 7/11. So the "robbery" was not stealing a few Snicker's bars or opening the register, it was that they stole the car from there.
makes more sense. Media kinda jumps to conclusions and thinks there was a convenience store robbery, when there wasn't
Photo of wounded surviving suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...ps21e163fc.jpg
Bomber #1 killed last night.
Wow that's a huge hole in his chest. Could that have been from a shotgun or AR 15?
Sorry, but there is no chance in hell that is a real picture of the dead guy. Anyone who would really believe that, I got a bridge for you that is for sale in Brooklyn.
TMZ says its real...looks like part of posterior parietal/superior occipital area is missing...if the body fell forward blood could pool around the face and throat, as in the picture...the left shoulder is dislocated...the wound on the left side was partly from some sort of emergency surgery...ribs are missing...Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpioluva
It wasn't a good day to be a bad guy. Kudos to the city of Boston!!!!:claps
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Originally Posted by nysprod
No way that huge gash is from surgery, unless it was done with a butter knife instead of a scalpel. And where is that body laid out, anyway? Some back room supply closet? No. No way that picture is the real deal.
I'm glad they finally got the guy.
Kudos to the various LE agencies for being consummate professionals about the whole thing, displaying restraint and taking him in ALIVE. Now we get to have a trial, and we maybe get to pick his brain a bit about how a popular high school athlete who looks to have everything going for him ends up placing bombs in a crowd that kill and maim people.
FWIW, I shop at the Arsenal Mall and at the Target across the street, and I have friends who live in Watertown near, but not in, the area where the firefight happened last night. I'm relieved that they're safe.
I think it will- one of the worst things about this tragedy, aside from the loss and maiming of so many innocent lives, is that it reinforces the siege mentality we've lived under since 9/11. Did you notice how many police officers looked exactly like soldiers? I saw one photo yesterday of a forensic tech at the scene of the shoot out wearing one of those low profile special forces helmets. Policing has become really militarized. Speaking of drones, check out Sen. Lindesy Graham's comments yesterday:Quote:
Originally Posted by dderek123
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...e-battlefield/
Yep - kudos to the police operation that finally took this oung man alive. So as biboysays we might get some insight into his motivation. Good to let the law take its due course.
The identification of these fellows and the eventual arrest on one also vindicates the often criticised high level of CCTV cameras in modrn society. Many worry about the human rights implications of such cameras and it is true that, in some situations of political demonstration, images gathered by them and by hand held digital devices can lead to the arrest of political demonstrators.
But here without these cameras and the scores of images taken by members of the public it is doubtful the killers would have been so easiiy and quickly identified and capture 9in one case).
For those us watching way beyond the sidelines - in my case in London - it is also further proof that a new media age has truly dawned. Twitter feeds from news sources and ordinary members of the public broke the news on all of the events of the past week faster than the old news organisations (though credit also the Boston Globe who really were abreast of every twist and turn of the story.) The last time I remember seeing events so quickly and broadly reported was the japanese Tsunami a couple of years back.
I agree with your comments the "new media age has truly dawned," the use of new technology to not only quickly inform the public but also to track and keep pressure on the suspects (such as the monitoring of their Twitter accounts) is remarkable. However, its not all roses either, for the rise of digital vigilantes and arm chair detectives see:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511
Up-for-it --- thanks for posting that nonsense from Graham. Very worrying.
Some people believe that i give Muslims - and islamic inspired terrorism - an easy ride in my political posts here. I would argue with this.
What I reject is the Pavlovian attitude of so many (especially on the Right) that ALL Muslims are evil and somehow responsible when an event like this occurs.
It is still far from clear if islamic fundamentalism actually inspired these two young Chechens. Hopefully the truth will emerge. That assumption might then prove true or erroneous.
I would not argue at all with the claim that there is a struggle doing on against the forces of violent Jihadism.
That this war has led to many blunders (deliberate or craven) is also unarguable in my view. The invasion of Iraq was one of the worst - but the death of many innocent civilians in drone attacks is another as is the shameful record of the previous administration in allowing special rendition, the creation of offshore and unregulated prisons in third world countries where torture was practised and the creation of Guantanamo Bay. Shame too on Obama for not fulfilling his promise to close Gitmo.
We in the "West" are supposedly a developed and humane society - and these few things I've listed help us lose the claim to moral higher ground in dealing with terrorism.
There is an enemy out there. But it is an enemy too to ordinary Muslim men and women. I have spent a long time working-on and studying the issues and practices around violent Jihad and the clash of ideas and beliefs now tearing the Muslim world apart. The success of the Taliban in Afghanistan, for instance, had a terrible impact on the lives of ordinary men and, especially, women. It is a battle for the hearts, minds and souls of islam that is underway.
The sort of crazy cries of kill or imprison all Muslims or nuke the Middle east which appear in the wake of an incident like Boston actually make things worse - and are a valuable recruiting sergeant for the Jihadist base.
I agree that we can't paint with a broad brush, thats one of the reasons I posted the BBC article on the role of forums in the investigation- they got lost in debate and conjecture and turned out to be pretty useless. Then again, as you stated, we also need to be aware there really is an enemy out there which seeks to draw in dissafected youth. To Boston's credit, there hasn't been any public backlash against immigrants etc. This speaks to the intelligence of it's residents, and most Americans, that there is an enemy, but that they don't represent all Muslims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Clearly these two got mixed up in the radical cleric circut on the internet. From what I've read the older of the two had a much harder time assimilating, while the younger one was having a tough transition between high school and entering college. I'm not saying that these in any way shape or form excuse what they did (millions of people share the same types of experiences), but these aspects of their lives offer some clues as to how they might have been attracted to jihadism. What is striking to me is how much they fit the profile of the Madrid bombers- young and having spent most of their lives living as expatriates rather than in war zones.
I'm not convinced they could even be described as 'Chechen' since they never really lived there, but bounced around until settling in the U.S. At any rate, drawing direct connections between Jihadi groups, especially Chechen seperatists, and these two is too simple. Inspired? Yes. Trained? Doubt it.
No, the margins are clean...it's not an entry or exit wound (although the injury could have started out as such), and the ribs are missing...we tend to think of surgery as being something that's precise, and it can be, but this type of situation is very much the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
And as far as the "supply closet" goes, forget what you see on TV...the tile...it looks realistic
I can't 100% say the pic is real but if it isn't, someone took the time to add some very realistic effects, like the dislocated left shoulder.
Anzor will be pissed when he finds out little Harvey Levin made money showing pics of his son's corpse on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by nysprod
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I wonder what the government and media will give as reasoning for this? Our society here believes everything is for a reason and it clamors for same.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpioluva
I really don't get that reference though.
Hats off to Boston LE for a job well done...and to the wonderful people in the Boston area (my sister included). You folks rock. In the following days I will eventually root against your Bruins and Red Sox again lol, but right now I got nothing but love.
My heart goes out to the victims of these two assholes...They were too young to pass away and too young to be maimed for the rest of their lives, all because that day they wanted to cheer on loved ones, on a beautiful day,that had entered into a marathon...which many entrants often run in for charity.
A day two completely self obsessed dickheads chose to create a monstrous act to make their own black and bloody mark in history.
...but at the end of the day,they are as their uncle stated...losers.
Also R.I.P. MIT P.O. Sean Collier.
As shown by your picture,also much too young to be gone.
From the articles I read he clearly made his Dept.proud
http://www.bostonglobe.com/2013/04/1...4fI/story.html
I religiously watch Colbert and Stewart....but still confused ( i don't watch nor trust mainstream media ) So they caught the douche?
Only took you 24 hours. Try CNN next time, huh? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by EvaCassini
~BB~