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Is US TV so bad they even show re-runs of Starsky and Hutch? Whatever happened to The Love Boat, and Gilligan's Island?
These shows are "around"... lol
There's even specialized channels for old series.
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It seem that everything ever made for TV - unless they've lost or destroyed the master tapes - is alive and well and being shown on someone's TV screen.
I once met some people in London who belonged to an association that would meet to view old test cards (the logo that used to be shown on British TV channels before the days of 24/7 broadcasting). They even traded Tapes of the cards,
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Test cards were more exciting than the "interlude" - short films to put in breaks between programmes.
http://youtu.be/hQ4-hDKorQE
Mesmerising!
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I once met some people in London who belonged to an association that would meet to view old test cards (the logo that used to be shown on British TV channels before the days of 24/7 broadcasting). They even traded Tapes of the cards,
Did they gather in the catacombs?
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Sadly they almost certainly meet in their drawing rooms -or parlours I guess you would say in the US, or maybe in pubs -there is a pub near me where a group of about 10-15 women have a knitting club every Monday evening. Bedazzled by Hollywood and Rodeo Drive, you just don't know how exciting this country is because you live in oh-so-sunny California...
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God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the known laws of physics. For much more on that, see my below article, which details physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all the forces in physics. The Omega Point cosmology demonstrates that the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point: the final cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacity having all the unique properties traditionally claimed for God, and of which is a different aspect of the Big Bang initial singularity, i.e., the first cause.
For anyone who has ever wondered about such questions as what the meaning of life is, what the purpose of their own life is, whether there is life after death, whether God exists, what the future holds for humanity, and why anything exists at all as opposed to nothingness, then this article answers all of those questions using the known laws of physics.
This article further provides an examination of the globalist political power-elite: history is given on their organizational structure and their methods of accumulating power; and analysis is given on where they're attempting to take the world, i.e., their self-termed New World Order world government and world religion.
The article furnishes documentation on what the globalist oligarchy's ultimate goal is. This ultimate goal of theirs most popularly goes by the name of transhumanism: immortality through technology. However, I explain in the article that the coming radical life-extension technologies create a fundamental dilemma for the oligarchs, which is why they must dominate world society before such technology becomes a reality. The details of that dilemma are explained in Sec. 8.2.2: "The Mark of the Beast" of the article.
Thus, this article explains to people what is to occur and why it is to occur, so that they will not be in ignorance as to the events that are to unfold.
Below one can download the article for free. I encourage everyone to generously share this article with others. By all means, please save it to your hard-drive and give others copies of it. Also, feel free to share the text of this post. The article is in PDF format.
James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysic...ryOfEverything , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Abfap2bp , http://flashmirrors.com/files/1ndt5b...ics-of-God.pdf , http://depositfiles.com/files/eybo55tie , http://ziddu.com/download/21165225/R...f-God.pdf.html , http://2shared.com/document/l4Ygh2xH...cs-of-God.html , http://bitshare.com/files/4udm4k3d/R...f-God.pdf.html , http://sendspace.com/file/ym65n4
Below is the abstract to my above article:
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ABSTRACT: Analysis is given of the Omega Point cosmology, an extensively peer-reviewed proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) published in leading physics journals by professor of physics and mathematics Frank J. Tipler, which demonstrates that in order for the known laws of physics to be mutually consistent, the universe must diverge to infinite computational power as it collapses into a final cosmological singularity, termed the Omega Point. The theorem is an intrinsic component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) describing and unifying all the forces in physics, of which itself is also required by the known physical laws. With infinite computational resources, the dead can be resurrected--never to die again--via perfect computer emulation of the multiverse from its start at the Big Bang. Miracles are also physically allowed via electroweak quantum tunneling controlled by the Omega Point cosmological singularity. The Omega Point is a different aspect of the Big Bang cosmological singularity--the first cause--and the Omega Point has all the haecceities claimed for God in the traditional religions.
From this analysis, conclusions are drawn regarding the social, ethical, economic and political implications of the Omega Point cosmology.
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Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals.[1] Even NASA itself has peer-reviewed his Omega Point Theorem and found it correct according to the known laws of physics (see below). No refutation of it exists within the peer-reviewed scientific literature, or anywhere else for that matter.
Below are some of the peer-reviewed papers in physics and science journals and proceedings wherein Prof. Tipler has published his Omega Point cosmology:
* Frank J. Tipler, "Cosmological Limits on Computation", International Journal of Theoretical Physics, Vol. 25, No. 6 (June 1986), pp. 617-661, doi:10.1007/BF00670475, bibcode: 1986IJTP...25..617T. (First paper on the Omega Point cosmology.) http://webcitation.org/64KHgOccs , http://flashmirrors.com/files/enznbp...omputation.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Sensorium of God: Newton and Absolute Space", bibcode: 1988nnds.conf..215T, in G[eorge]. V. Coyne, M[ichal]. Heller and J[ozef]. Zycinski (Eds.), "Message" by Franciszek Macharski, Newton and the New Direction in Science: Proceedings of the Cracow Conference, 25 to 28 May 1987 (Vatican City: Specola Vaticana, 1988), pp. 215-228, LCCN 88162460, bibcode: 1988nnds.conf.....C. http://webcitation.org/69Vb0JF1W , http://flashmirrors.com/files/0z5yzd...ium-of-God.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point Theory: A Model of an Evolving God", in Robert J. Russell, William R. Stoeger and George V. Coyne (Eds.), message by John Paul II, Physics, Philosophy, and Theology: A Common Quest for Understanding (Vatican City: Vatican Observatory, 2nd ed., 2005; orig. pub. 1988), pp. 313-331, ISBN 0268015775, LCCN 89203331, bibcode: 1988pptc.book.....R. http://webcitation.org/69VaKG2nd , http://flashmirrors.com/files/6ehek7...int-Theory.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Anthropic Principle: A Primer for Philosophers", in Arthur Fine and Jarrett Leplin (Eds.), PSA 1988: Proceedings of the 1988 Biennial Meeting of the Philosophy of Science Association, Volume Two: Symposia and Invited Papers (East Lansing, Mich.: Philosophy of Science Association, 1989), pp. 27-48, ISBN 091758628X. http://webcitation.org/69VarCM3I , http://flashmirrors.com/files/iwmn0m...-Principle.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions for Scientists", Zygon: Journal of Religion & Science, Vol. 24, No. 2 (June 1989), pp. 217-253, doi:10.1111/j.1467-9744.1989.tb01112.x. Republished as Chapter 7: "The Omega Point as Eschaton: Answers to Pannenberg's Questions to Scientists" in Carol Rausch Albright and Joel Haugen (Eds.), Beginning with the End: God, Science, and Wolfhart Pannenberg (Chicago, Ill.: Open Court Publishing Company, 1997), pp. 156-194, ISBN 0812693256, LCCN 97000114. http://webcitation.org/5nY0aytpz , http://flashmirrors.com/files/habdjy...s-eschaton.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The ultimate fate of life in universes which undergo inflation", Physics Letters B, Vol. 286, Nos. 1-2 (July 23, 1992), pp. 36-43, doi:10.1016/0370-2693(92)90155-W, bibcode: 1992PhLB..286...36T. http://webcitation.org/64Uskd785 , http://flashmirrors.com/files/pqt2sd...-inflation.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "A New Condition Implying the Existence of a Constant Mean Curvature Foliation", bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf..306T, in B[ei]. L. Hu and T[ed]. A. Jacobson (Eds.), Directions in General Relativity: Proceedings of the 1993 International Symposium, Maryland, Volume 2: Papers in Honor of Dieter Brill (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1993), pp. 306-315, ISBN 0521452678, bibcode: 1993dgr2.conf.....H. http://webcitation.org/5qbXJZiX5 , http://flashmirrors.com/files/wrzpny...-foliation.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future of the Universe", NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Workshop Proceedings, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Jan. 1999, pp. 111-119; an invited paper in the proceedings of a conference held at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, Ohio, Aug. 12-14, 1997; doi:2060/19990023204. Document ID: 19990023204. Report Number: E-11429; NAS 1.55:208694; NASA/CP-1999-208694. http://webcitation.org/5zPq69I0O , http://flashmirrors.com/files/1fwhqn...ic-rockets.pdf Full proceedings volume: http://webcitation.org/69zAxm0sT
* Frank J. Tipler, "There Are No Limits To The Open Society", Critical Rationalist, Vol. 3, No. 2 (Sept. 23, 1998). http://webcitation.org/5sFYkHgSS , http://flashmirrors.com/files/tck5al...en-Society.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, Jessica Graber, Matthew McGinley, Joshua Nichols-Barrer and Christopher Staecker, "Closed Universes With Black Holes But No Event Horizons As a Solution to the Black Hole Information Problem", arXiv:gr-qc/0003082, Mar. 20, 2000. http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0003082 Published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 379, No. 2 (Aug. 2007), pp. 629-640, doi:10.1111/j.1365-2966.2007.11895.x, bibcode: 2007MNRAS.379..629T. http://webcitation.org/5vQ3M8uxB , http://flashmirrors.com/files/nppi6h...t-horizons.pdf
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Ultimate Future of the Universe, Black Hole Event Horizon Topologies, Holography, and the Value of the Cosmological Constant", arXiv:astro-ph/0104011, Apr. 1, 2001. http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0104011 Published in J. Craig Wheeler and Hugo Martel (Eds.), Relativistic Astrophysics: 20th Texas Symposium, Austin, TX, 10-15 Dec. 2000 (Melville, N.Y.: American Institute of Physics, 2001), pp. 769-772, ISBN 0735400261, LCCN 2001094694, which is AIP Conference Proceedings, Vol. 586 (Oct. 15, 2001), doi:10.1063/1.1419654, bibcode: 2001AIPC..586.....W.
* Frank J. Tipler, "Intelligent life in cosmology", International Journal of Astrobiology, Vol. 2, No. 2 (Apr. 2003), pp. 141-148, doi:10.1017/S1473550403001526, bibcode: 2003IJAsB...2..141T. http://webcitation.org/5o9QHKGuW , http://flashmirrors.com/files/ra8udw...-cosmology.pdf Also at arXiv:0704.0058, Mar. 31, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.0058
* F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers", Reports on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (Apr. 2005), pp. 897-964, doi:10.1088/0034-4885/68/4/R04, bibcode: 2005RPPh...68..897T. http://129.81.170.14/~tipler/theoryofeverything.pdf Also released as "Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended Standard Model as a Theory of Everything", arXiv:0704.3276, Apr. 24, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276
* Frank J. Tipler, "Inevitable Existence and Inevitable Goodness of the Singularity", Journal of Consciousness Studies, Vol. 19, Nos. 1-2 (2012), pp. 183-193. http://webcitation.org/69JEi5wHp , http://flashmirrors.com/files/k0pfzw...ingularity.pdf
Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in which the above August 2007 paper was published, is one of the world's leading peer-reviewed astrophysics journals.
Prof. Tipler's paper "Ultrarelativistic Rockets and the Ultimate Future of the Universe" was an invited paper for a conference held at and sponsored by NASA Lewis Research Center, so NASA itself has peer-reviewed Tipler's Omega Point Theorem (peer-review is a standard process for published proceedings papers; and again, Tipler's said paper was an *invited* paper by NASA, as opposed to what are called "poster papers").
Zygon is the world's leading peer-reviewed academic journal on science and religion.
Out of 50 articles, Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper--which presents the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE)--was selected as one of 12 for the "Highlights of 2005" accolade as "the very best articles published in Reports on Progress in Physics in 2005 [Vol. 68]. Articles were selected by the Editorial Board for their outstanding reviews of the field. They all received the highest praise from our international referees and a high number of downloads from the journal Website." (See Richard Palmer, Publisher, "Highlights of 2005", Reports on Progress in Physics. http://webcitation.org/5o9VkK3eE )
Reports on Progress in Physics is the leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main professional body for physicists. Further, Reports on Progress in Physics has a higher impact factor (according to Journal Citation Reports) than Physical Review Letters, which is the most prestigious American physics journal (one, incidently, which Prof. Tipler has been published in more than once). A journal's impact factor reflects the importance the science community places in that journal in the sense of actually citing its papers in their own papers.
For much more on these matters, see my above-cited article "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything" in addition to my below website:
Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist http://theophysics.host56.com , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com , http://theophysics.freevar.com
The only way to avoid the Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point cosmology is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology.
Additionally, we now have the quantum gravity Theory of Everything (TOE) required by the known laws of physics and that correctly describes and unifies all the forces in physics: of which inherently produces the Omega Point cosmology. So here we have an additional high degree of assurance that the Omega Point cosmology is correct.
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1. While there is a lot that gets published in physics journals that is anti-reality and non-physical (such as String Theory, which violates the known laws of physics and has no experimental support whatsoever), the reason such things are allowed to pass the peer-review process is because the paradigm of assumptions which such papers are speaking to has been made known, and within their operating paradigm none of the referees could find anything crucially wrong with said papers. That is, the paradigm itself may have nothing to do with reality, but the peer-reviewers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with such papers within the operating assumptions of that paradigm. Whereas, e.g., the operating paradigm of Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper and his other papers on the Omega Point Theorem is the known laws of physics, i.e., our actual physical reality which has been repeatedly confirmed by every experiment conducted to date. So the professional physicists charged with refereeing these papers could find nothing fundamentally wrong with them within their operating paradigm, i.e., the known laws of physics.
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Nobody going to engage. Shame on you all
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pseudoscience :dancing:
The Theory of Everything is an incredible arrogance of this Christian physicist, Frank Tipler
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Dark matter,string thory, bigfoot, lochness, aliens. We. Can't say they don't exist simply because we haven't found evidence of there existence.the beauty of science is it can only. Prove what it can finds. Not what it dosnt. So dabate over. Or neverending. ..
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And we are down to one thread now!! Surely the answer to the universe, life and everything justifies two threads - or is the other one in a parallel universe?
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Ooops - there are still two threads left. It's me in a parallel universe. Got my bigfoot tied up in my string theory.
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There are an infinite number of threads in an infinite number of universes -- and in every one of them Jamie is talking specious tosh.
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My thoughts exactly - shall we write a paper for a good journal and then it will be proven..
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Those who preach god, need god
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Beware the preachers
Beware the knowers
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Jamie Michelle
God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the known laws of physics.
So God exists based on a specific view of the laws of physics?
In other words,ONLY if you look at the laws this way and no other way?
Hate to break it to you but if God were PROVEN to exist it would have been the news story of all time... It would be in every news show and paper in existence.
But instead we're reading about it in a porn forum.....seems legit.
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It's because He knows we need saving first!
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Chaos
So God exists based on a specific view of the laws of physics?
In other words,ONLY if you look at the laws this way and no other way?
Hate to break it to you but if God were PROVEN to exist it would have been the news story of all time... It would be in every news show and paper in existence.
But instead we're reading about it in a porn forum.....seems legit.
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Yep... perhaps Jamie is adopting the missionary position for us fallen among evildoers.
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Yep... perhaps Jamie is adopting the missionary position for us fallen among evildoers.
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yosi
pseudoscience :dancing:
The Theory of Everything is an incredible arrogance of this Christian physicist, Frank Tipler
Your above comment is the logical fallacy of bare assertion.
In actually, pseudoscience would be attempting to avoid the Omega Point cosmology, since it is now a mathematical theorem per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics, of which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Out of 50 articles, Prof. Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper--which presents the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE)--was selected as one of 12 for the "Highlights of 2005" accolade as "the very best articles published in Reports on Progress in Physics in 2005 [Vol. 68]. Articles were selected by the Editorial Board for their outstanding reviews of the field. They all received the highest praise from our international referees and a high number of downloads from the journal Website." (See Richard Palmer, Publisher, "Highlights of 2005", Reports on Progress in Physics. http://webcitation.org/5o9VkK3eE )
Reports on Progress in Physics is the leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main professional body for physicists. Further, Reports on Progress in Physics has a higher impact factor (according to Journal Citation Reports) than Physical Review Letters, which is the most prestigious American physics journal (one, incidently, which Prof. Tipler has been published in more than once). A journal's impact factor reflects the importance the science community places in that journal in the sense of actually citing its papers in their own papers.
For much more on the above, see my following article (published under my legal name):
James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysic...ryOfEverything , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , http://www.scribd.com/doc/79273334
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Chaos
So God exists based on a specific view of the laws of physics?
In other words,ONLY if you look at the laws this way and no other way?
Hate to break it to you but if God were PROVEN to exist it would have been the news story of all time... It would be in every news show and paper in existence.
But instead we're reading about it in a porn forum.....seems legit.
The Omega Point cosmology has been peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics journals. The Omega Point cosmology is now a mathematical theorem per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics, of which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
The only way to avoid the Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point cosmology is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology.
Regarding your statements above, they are the logical fallacy of bare assertion.
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The only way to avoid the Omega Point cosmology is to reject the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and hence to reject empirical science: as these physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date. That is, there exists no rational reason for thinking that the Omega Point cosmology is incorrect, and indeed, one must engage in extreme irrationality in order to argue against the Omega Point cosmology.
How tedious to have to go over this again and again -Omega Point Cosmology is an untested theory which makes ridiculous non-scientific claims about the end-times and the human element in the collapse of the universe- allow this extract from a critique to suffice, the full link is below.
Mr Redford’s first point is that the evidence for Tipler’s Omega Point is “the laws of physics themselves”. Well I’m sorry Mr Redford but just because something is possible within the laws of physics does not constitute evidence! Astronomers aren’t allowed to invent new astral bodies simply because they could exist and Biologists are not entitled to invent animals just because the laws of physics would allow them to be.
Mr Redford then acknowledges that in 1994 Tipler didn’t have experimental confirmation of his theory but claims he does now. Not only does this contradict Mr Redford’s initial assertion that evidence lies in the laws of physics themselves but he fails to provide a link or description of this supposed experimental confirmation (which I failed to find myself). Mr Redford claims that the only way to avoid Omega Point is to violate the know laws of physics, this is just patently absurd. The destruction of the human race or our lack of ability (or willingness) to invent a supercomputer at the end of time that will in it’s infinite intelligence decide that resurrecting every human is a valuable use of its time is not only possible within the laws of physics but probable (and thus invalidates Mr Redford’s argument). Lastly Mr Redford constructs an argument from authority where he claims Tipler correctly predicted the mass of the top quark which even if true has no bearing on whether or not Omega Point Theory is fact.
http://friendofreason.wordpress.com/...-theory-redux/
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Stavros
How tedious to have to go over this again and again -Omega Point Cosmology is an untested theory which makes ridiculous non-scientific claims about the end-times and the human element in the collapse of the universe- allow this extract from a critique to suffice, the full link is below.
Mr Redford’s first point is that the evidence for Tipler’s Omega Point is “the laws of physics themselves”. Well I’m sorry Mr Redford but just because something is possible within the laws of physics does not constitute evidence! Astronomers aren’t allowed to invent new astral bodies simply because they could exist and Biologists are not entitled to invent animals just because the laws of physics would allow them to be.
Mr Redford then acknowledges that in 1994 Tipler didn’t have experimental confirmation of his theory but claims he does now. Not only does this contradict Mr Redford’s initial assertion that evidence lies in the laws of physics themselves but he fails to provide a link or description of this supposed experimental confirmation (which I failed to find myself). Mr Redford claims that the only way to avoid Omega Point is to violate the know laws of physics, this is just patently absurd. The destruction of the human race or our lack of ability (or willingness) to invent a supercomputer at the end of time that will in it’s infinite intelligence decide that resurrecting every human is a valuable use of its time is not only possible within the laws of physics but probable (and thus invalidates Mr Redford’s argument). Lastly Mr Redford constructs an argument from authority where he claims Tipler correctly predicted the mass of the top quark which even if true has no bearing on whether or not Omega Point Theory is fact.
http://friendofreason.wordpress.com/...-theory-redux/
Since the Omega Point cosmology is itself logically required by the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics)--of which themselves have been confirmed by every experiment conducted to date--this makes the Omega Point cosmology itself the most-confirmed statement in physics. And again, the Omega Point cosmology is now a mathematical theorem per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Below is my reply to Christian Polson-Brown's above post, of which post by Polson-Brown you above provide an excerpt:
James Redford, "Reply to Christian Polson-Brown, No. 2", net.science.physics.misc, Message-ID: qeni86967vie0gad0o216iok11mp84bksd@4ax.com , 09 Sep 2010 18:21:23 -0400. http://groups.google.com/group/net.s...e7170bd8aaa1d1
Christian Polson-Brown didn't reply to my foregoing response to him, which is just as well if he were still liable to be adverse to it, since logically speaking the only correct response is either to reject the known laws of physics (which itself is irrational since they have been confirmed by every experiment to date) or to accept the Omega Point cosmology.
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You continuously refer back to the paper you have posted on the web, but never explain why your own fetish for the 'End-times', the 'Rapture' or the fantastic nonsense you claim for computing and human beings is in any way relevant to cosmology, because you could just say you are a born-again Christian who thinks that only people who change their beliefs to share yours will be saved on the Day of Judgement as you will be saved. It is an act of cowardice on your part because you prefer to preface with junk science your true intentions, just as you claim the US Government has covered up 'the truth' about 9/11.
In addition, you are peddling the pseudo-anarchist philosphy of Ayn Rand and Hans-Hermann Hoppe in a desperate attempt to prove that 'Jesus is an Anarchist' in order to bring other Christians to agree with your philosophy; for someone who condemns most people as 'sheeple' it is quite odd that you should want to deny them/us our independent capacity for thought.
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Jamie Michelle
Your above comment is the logical fallacy of bare assertion.
In actually, pseudoscience would be attempting to avoid the Omega Point cosmology, since it is now a mathematical theorem per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics, of which have been confirmed by every experiment to date. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Quoting Prof. Stephen Hawking to potect a THEORY , that in the bottom line says: Jesus Christ exists and he is God's Messiah, his bodily resurrection is possible- is a cheap propaganda and pure pseudoscience.
you want to believe that Jesus Christ exists and he is God's Messiah? go ahead , believe in it , but supporting it with pseudoscience? no thanx.
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I don't really care about any junk science. I just cringe at the hubris it takes for someone to not only tell me that they know the universe was goblin created, but that they're the messenger for such a critter. Sorry Spud, but I'm all out of faith.
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Stavros
It is an act of cowardice on your part because you prefer to preface with junk science your true intentions
I completely agree Stavros. Also, I really don't understand why Jamie just seems to copy & paste the same bog standard response to everyone!
As I said months ago, the whole point of making a thread like this is to encourage discussion, but all Jamie does is shut down and spout out the same nonsense like a completely brainwashed member of a cult...
It's weird - like a mantra she has to keep telling herself in order to keep believing.
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loveboof
I completely agree Stavros. Also, I really don't understand why Jamie just seems to copy & paste the same bog standard response to everyone!
As I said months ago, the whole point of making a thread like this is to encourage discussion, but all Jamie does is shut down and spout out the same nonsense like a completely brainwashed member of a cult...
It's weird - like a mantra she has to keep telling herself in order to keep believing.
Uh... That's Jaimie's blog, based on Jaimie's "book"(I'm not sure if it was ever published on paper). Irrespective of what you, I, or any detractors think about the content, the source is the same for the most part. Posting all these links just avoids a lot of retyping. Is there really a problem with that? Regardless of agreement, or lack thereof, Jaimie has always been consistant, & has put a lot of thought into all this. Just ssyin'.
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No I don't mean the links. I mean this sort of thing:
- required by the known laws of physics (i.e. the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics)
- mathematical theorem per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Just spouted out in every single comment regardless of what she's replying to. Every time...
[edit: And Stephen Hawking doesn't publically support any of Jamies pseudoscience, so using his quote out of context to make it appear like he supports this BS is cheap. Exactly what some flimsy pseudoscientist would attempt for credibility!]
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loveboof
No I don't mean the links. I mean this sort of thing:
- required by the known laws of physics (i.e. the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics)
- mathematical theorem per the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Just spouted out in every single comment regardless of what she's replying to. Every time...
[edit: And Stephen Hawking doesn't publically support any of Jamies pseudoscience, so using his quote out of context to make it appear like he supports this BS is cheap. Exactly what some flimsy pseudoscientist would attempt for credibility!]
Yeah. I don't know what any of it means either. But it's content. Probably pasted from the book. I wouldn't know. I have no intention of ever reading it. I just find myself fascinated & greatly amused by the concept of goblin worship & the amazing ways people try to justify unsupported beliefs.
As for Hawking: I hear the voice, without seeing anything but the same blank stare for decades, without so much as a twitch. Gotta wonder if he isn't some kind of hoax. Piltdown Man redux. Maybe I should start a new thread asking whether the Newtonion Chair has become the seat of high end taxidermy.
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As for Hawking: I hear the voice, without seeing anything but the same blank stare for decades, without so much as a twitch. Gotta wonder if he isn't some kind of hoax. Piltdown Man redux. Maybe I should start a new thread asking whether the Newtonion Chair has become the seat of high end taxidermy.
Sounds like the projected appearance of old decrepit Hari Seldon in a wheelchair to give various pronouncements through the years within Asimov's Foundation series.
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Stephen Hawking once ran my foot over with his wheelchair during a garden party at Buckingham Palace. i KNOW he is real.
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I saw God in the fifth grade.
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Stephen Hawking once ran my foot over with his wheelchair during a garden party at Buckingham Palace. i KNOW he is real.
The most alarming thing is not that Hawking exists and has poor driving skills, but that you were allowed into Buckingham Palace - Services to Porn, I imagine
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No answer to that Martin. I am now awaiting my knighthood.
The most amusing thing - apart from Hawking - was that they bussed in beefeaters from The Tower for the afternoon. They travelled in full Yeoman rig and stowed their pikes in the luggage compartment of the coach.
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I suppose you could say that for the Yeoman it was their End-times...?
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No answer to that Martin. I am now awaiting my knighthood.
I've always wanted one - keeps your ears warm in bed.
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Re: The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
Below are six sections which contain very informative videos of physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by the known laws of physics. The seventh section contains an audio interview of Tipler.
I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.
For much more regarding the matters here, see my following article (published under my legal name):
James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/download/ThePhysi...ics-of-God.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , http://alphaomegapoint.files.wordpre...ics-of-god.pdf , http://sites.google.com/site/physico...ics-of-God.pdf
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The following is my favorite video that I've so far seen of Prof. Tipler:
Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss, Michael Shermer (Producer), A Great Debate: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity? (prod. co.: Skeptics Society [Altadena, Cal.]), run time: 2:13 h:min. Video of a debate held at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech; Pasadena, Cal.) on June 3, 2007. Frank-Tipler-vs-Lawrence-Krauss-Debate-Caltech-2007-6-3.mp4 , 390464045 bytes, MD5: 53363e2c304535ba0627135c4710180d. http://flashmirrors.com/files/4h8ma8ofktmntv1 , http://mirrorstack.com/p3a7cwnqajzn
Michael Shermer (founder of the Skeptics Society) is the moderator of the debate. Bill Nye (of Bill Nye the Science Guy) is among the audience members.
Prof. Tipler starts his presentation at 15:57 min:sec. Tipler points out that we have had a Theory of Everything (TOE) in physics for some 30 years with the arrival of the Standard Model of particle physics, since the Standard Model describes all forces in nature except for gravity. The Standard Model is a quantum field theory, i.e., it involves Quantum Mechanics combined with special-relativistic particle physics. And gravity is described by General Relativity. The problem has been to make General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics consistent with each other, which Tipler points out is done with the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg theory of quantum gravity when the appropriate boundary conditions on the universe are used, which includes the initial Big Bang, and the final Omega Point, cosmological singularities.
Tipler shows a graphic listing General Relativity as having the general linear group of GL(4, R) symmetry group; and the Standard Model of particle physics as having the Lie group of 3 Lie symmetry group.
19:33 min:sec ff.: In the 1960s Richard Feynman at Caltech quantized a spin-2 field using his path integral method. Quantizing a spin-2 field requires it to be a spacetime metric and imposes the full GL(4, R) symmetry group.
At 19:54 min:sec ff., Tipler points out that the Feynman quantum gravity theory is unique, i.e., it is the only quantum gravity theory possible if General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are correct (cf. 32:11 min:sec ff.), since General Relativity requires gravity to be a spin-2 field, and the Hulse and Taylor pulsar confirmation of Einstein's quadrupole formula verified that gravity is a spin-2 field. General Relativity also states that gravity is a phenomenon of the curvature of the spacetime metric with observer independence, i.e., physics cannot depend locally on the observer, which gives the GL(4, R) symmetry group of General Relativity.
20:44 min:sec ff.: Steven Weinberg later showed that the Feynman theory of quantum gravity is renormalizable, which means that the term-by-term infinities in the Feynman diagrams can be absorbed into constants, so it is no worse than other quantum field theories. However, there are actually two sources of infinity in quantum field theory: the ones that are renormalized away, as previously mentioned; and the ones that generate the divergence of the power series of the S-matrix (i.e., scattering matrix).
21:21 min:sec ff.: It has been known for 50 years what the cause of this series divergence is: it's a bad choice of the vacuum state, which Freeman Dyson showed in a paper in Physical Review in 1952 (see F. J. Dyson, "Divergence of Perturbation Theory in Quantum Electrodynamics", Physical Review, Vol. 85, No. 4 [Feb. 1952], pp. 631-632). David Geroch showed that perturbation theory in String Theory also has a series divergence for essentially the same reason.
22:18 min:sec ff.: Tipler mentions Liouville's Theorem in complex analysis. One way of stating said Theorem is that all analytic functions (i.e., holomorphic functions) other than constants have singularities either a finite distance from the origin of coordinates or at infinity, which is analogous to what occurs with the universe: the only way to avoid infinities in spacetime (consequently causing the instantaneous collapse of the entire universe) is for the universe to begin and end at singularities. Moreover, it doesn't matter what form of physics one resorts to, as any physically-realistic cosmology (e.g., one capable of incorporating Quantum Mechanics, since the complex number field is intrinsic to the mathematical formulations of Quantum Mechanics) must begin at an initial singularity and end at a final singularity. (As Barrow and Tipler wrote, "Initial and final cosmological curvature singularities are required to avoid a universal action singularity." See John D. Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, "Action principles in nature", Nature, Vol. 331, No. 6151 [Jan. 7, 1988], pp. 31-34; see also Frank J. Tipler, "The Structure of the Classical Cosmological Singularity", in Origin and Early History of the Universe: Proceedings of the 26th Liège International Astrophyscial Colloquium, July 1-4, 1986 [Cointe-Ougree, Belgium: Universite de Liege, Institut d'Astrophysique, 1987], pp. 339-359; "Discussion", pp. 360-361.)
23:23 min:sec ff.: Feynman quantum gravity makes a singularity even more inevitable than the Penrose-Hawking-Geroch Singularity Theorems, since the Singularity Theorems assume attractive gravity, whereas with Feynman quantum gravity the sum-over-histories (i.e., sum-over-paths; path integral formulation) get arbitrarily close to infinite curvature. In other words, the multiverse has its own singularity.
24:04 min:sec ff.: Imposing unitarity avoids the spacetime infinities of quantum field theory, since if there were not a cut-off to the energies of quantum field theory then miniature black holes would be created and quickly evaporate, thereby violating unitarity. 26:21 min:sec ff.: This mechanism to stabilize quantum field theory only works if there is an initial singularity and a final singularity and if there are no event horizons, which also solves the black hole information problem. 26:55 min:sec ff.: The absence of event horizons is only possible if the universe is spatially close, and in particular has the spatial topology of a three-sphere (i.e., 3-sphere; S^3); also, only if the final singularity is a single point in the Penrose c-boundary construction, called the Omega Point.
27:18 min:sec ff.: This picks out a global vacuum state which must define a classical universe now; this means that the wave function of the universe must have initially been a Dirac delta function, which explains the observed flatness of the universe without resorting to nonempirical new physics such as Inflation Theory (requiring the unobserved inflation field, i.e., inflaton particles), but rather is simply quantum kinematics: a result of wave-packet spreading (as an analogy, Tipler gives a version of wave-packet spreading as sound waves heard around the corner of a building, which is an example of wave diffraction).
28:05 min:sec ff.: In such a universe, quantum field theory in the form of the Bekenstein Bound forces the initial state of the universe to be homogeneous and isotropic; and it also picks out a unique field of the Standard Model, the SU(2)_L field which gives the observed excess of matter over antimatter, whereas the usual boundary condition used by physicists--which is inconsistent with quantum field theory--gives a baryon-generating mechanism that produces far too many photons to baryons. Also, the perturbation spectrum is necessarily scale-invariant since the universe is necessarily flat (as was basically shown by Edward Robert Harrison long before Inflation Theory was even though of).
29 min ff.: What the above all means is that reality consists of a multiverse, with each universe in the multiverse starting at an initial singularity and eventually collapsing into a final singularity. Said Big Bang initial singularity and Omega Point final singularity are actually connected by a third singularity: the All-Presents singularity, which exists at each time for each universe in the multiverse. That is, there exists three connected hypostases to existence: the First Cause, the Sustaining Cause, and the Final Cause, which are not in spacetime but instead are the boundary of space and time, and which are not themselves subject to any possible form of physics, i.e., they are quite literally supernatural.
32:11 min:sec ff.: Feynman-Weinberg quantum gravity is the unique quantization of General Relativity, i.e., it's the only way to quantize General Relativity, since gravity in General Relativity is a spin-2 field, and General Relativity is a spacetime metric and possesses the full GL(4, R) symmetry group. (Herein "unique" means the only one mathematically possible.) General Relativity is the unique specialization (i.e., subset; special case) of Newtonian mechanics with the specification imposed that Newtonian mechanics be consistent with Maxwell's Equations, i.e., that the speed of light is the same for all observers. Elie Cartan showed that in Newtonian mechanics, gravity is curvature of time only; whereas in General Relativity, gravity is curvature of space and time, i.e., spacetime (cf. Frank J. Tipler, The Physics of Christianity [New York: Doubleday, 2007], p. 33; and pp. 79-80 of Frank J. Tipler, "Albert Einstein: A Scientific Reactionary", pp. 73-83, in John Brockman [Ed.], My Einstein [New York: Vintage Books, 2007; orig. pub. 2006]). 33 min ff.: Similarly, Quantum Mechanics is the unique specialization of Newtonian mechanics in its most powerful formulation, the Hamilton-Jacobi Equation, with the specification imposed that determinism is maintained: since the Hamilton-Jacobi Equation is indeterministic, because when particle trajectories cross paths a singularity is produced (i.e., the values in the equations become infinite) and so it is no possible to predict (even in principle) what happens after that (cf. id., The Physics of Christianity, pp. 48-49; and 7:17 min:sec ff., Casey Luskin, interview of Frank Tipler, "Part 1: Einstein Vs. Darwin", Intelligent Design the Future, Feb. 13, 2013, audio run time: 17:25 min:sec).
33:17 min:sec ff.: For these reasons--the fact that the history of physics since Newton has been a series of specializations, rather than generalizations, of fundamental physics--we can be confident that we have the correct Theory of Everything (TOE) in physics and that there is not going to be any new physics that comes along to displace the current known laws of physics. That is, since after Newton's physics, there has been no "revolution" in physics (e.g., such as with General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, etc.), but instead an evolution of physics: the fundamental physics of today are simply more specific subsets of Newtonian mechanics, i.e., Newtonian mechanics with specific constrains put on it in order to make it consistent with observations and to make its resulting subsets mutually mathematically consistent with each other. So in over 300 years we have never left the realm of Newton's physics. And all the forces in physics are now described and made mutually consistent with the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity theory and the Standard Model of particle physics.
Prof. Tipler then goes on to show how, using only the known laws of physics, the miracles of Jesus Christ are physically possible. This process uses baryon annihilation (which is allowed in the Standard Model, as baryon number minus lepton number, B - L, is conserved), and its inverse, by way of electroweak quantum tunneling caused via the Principle of Least Action by the physical requirement that the Omega Point final cosmological singularity exists. Tipler also proposes that the virgin birth of Jesus by Mary could be possible via Jesus being a special type of XX male who obtained all of his genetic material from Mary (i.e., an instance of parthenogenesis). Tipler concludes that the Star of Bethlehem was either a Type Ic hypernova located in the Andromeda Galaxy, or a Type Ia supernova located in a globular cluster of our own Milky Way Galaxy.
If the Incarnation of Jesus Christ and the miracles attributed to him in the New Testament were necessary in order to lead to the formation of the Omega Point--and if the known laws of physics are correct--then the probability of these events occurring is certain. Furthermore, Tipler proposes tests on particular relics associated with Jesus which, if the relics are genuine, could verify whether in fact said miracles took place via the aforementioned mechanisms.
Physicist Prof. Lawrence M. Krauss starts his presentation at 49:36 min:sec. 52:54 min:sec ff.: Krauss begins by engaging in the logical fallacy of bare assertion. Krauss asserts that (1) the Standard Model of particle physics isn't complete; (2) we don't have a consistent theory of quantum gravity; (3) the universe doesn't have to collapse; (4) we don't understand the nature of dark energy; and (5) we don't know why there is more matter than antimatter in the universe.
In answer to Krauss: (1) The Standard Model describes all forces in nature except for gravity. And gravity is described by General Relativity. (2) The problem has been to make General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics consistent with each other, which is done with the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity theory. (3) The universe must collapse in finite time or otherwise unitarity will be violated (see p. 925 [cf. pp. 904-905] of F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers", Reports on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 [Apr. 2005], pp. 897-964). (4) The dark energy is the positive cosmological constant. As required by the Standard Model of particle physics, the net baryon number was created in the early universe by baryogenesis via electroweak quantum tunneling. This necessarily forces the Higgs field to be in a vacuum state that is not its absolute vacuum, which is the cause of the observed cosmological constant. (5) The universe's initial SU(2)_L field of the Standard Model--which is required by quantum field theory--gives the observed excess of matter over antimatter. See op. cit. for details on the foregoing matters.
Prof. Krauss attempts to rebut Prof. Tipler's proposed mechanism for the miracles of Jesus Christ by relating how statistically improbable such events are, yet this doesn't actually address Tipler's arguments since Tipler's point is that such seemingly improbable events would be forced to occur by the known laws of physics via the Principle of Least Action if said events are required in order for the universe to evolve into the Omega Point final singularity. Krauss himself in his review of Tipler's book The Physics of Christianity admits that this mechanism which Tipler proposes for Jesus Christ's miracles is physically sound if said miracles were necessary in order to lead to the formation of the Omega Point and if the Omega Point is required in order for existence to exist (see Lawrence Krauss, "More dangerous than nonsense", New Scientist, Vol. 194, No. 2603 [May 12, 2007], p. 53).
1:00:52 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss provides a quote from Gerardus 't Hooft, but as with Krauss's discussion of probabilities, 't Hooft's remarks are irrelevant to Tipler's actual argument, since 't Hooft is assuming boundary conditions on the universe which are inconsistent with quantum field theory rather than the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE boundary conditions which makes all the laws of physics mutually mathematically consistent with each other.
1:02:01 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss provides a quote from Steven Weinberg, of which again is irrelevant to Tipler's actual argument, since as with 't Hooft, Weinberg is assuming inconsistent boundary conditions.
Krauss, 't Hooft, and Weinberg are all particle physicists. Whereas Tipler is not only an expert in quantum field theory (i.e., Quantum Mechanics combined with special-relativistic particle physics) but also an expert in Global General Relativity and computer theory. Furthermore, neither Krauss, 't Hooft, nor Weinberg display any awareness of Tipler's 2005 Reports on Progress in Physics paper which presents the technical details of the Omega Point TOE.
1:03:15 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss claims that all the evidence in nature indicates that the universe will expand forever. Ironically, Krauss has actually published a paper that greatly helped to strengthen Tipler's Omega Point cosmology. Some have suggested that the current acceleration of the universe's expansion due to the positive cosmological constant would appear to obviate the Omega Point. However, Profs. Krauss and Turner point out that "there is no set of cosmological observations we can perform that will unambiguously allow us to determine what the ultimate destiny of the Universe will be." (See Lawrence M. Krauss and Michael S. Turner, "Geometry and Destiny", General Relativity and Gravitation, Vol. 31, No. 10 [Oct. 1999], pp. 1453-1459.) While cosmological observations cannot tell us what the ultimate fate of the universe will be, the known laws of physics themselves can, as the universe is forced to end in finite proper time in order for unitarity to remain unviolated (again, see p. 925 [cf. pp. 904–905] of id., "The structure of the world from pure numbers", op. cit.).
1:23:06 h:min:sec ff.: Tipler starts his response to Krauss, wherein Tipler addresses Krauss's claims.
1:29:22 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss starts his second response to Tipler.
1:31:09 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss talks about "the energy of empty space", by which he means the dark energy. See my above response to Krauss's previous comments on the dark energy.
1:32:29 h:min:sec ff.: Tipler and Krauss take questions from the audience.
1:35:57 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss claims that we don't understand physics well enough to know whether unitarity is violated if an astrophysical black hole were to evaporate.
Regarding proposed solutions to the black hole information issue, all except for Tipler's Omega Point cosmology share the common feature of using proposed new laws of physics that have never been experimentally confirmed--and indeed which violate the known laws of physics--such as with Prof. Stephen Hawking's paper on the black hole information issue which is dependent on the conjectured String Theory-based anti-de Sitter space/conformal field theory correspondence (AdS/CFT correspondence). (See S. W. Hawking, "Information loss in black holes", Physical Review D, Vol. 72, No. 8 [Oct. 15, 2005], Art. No. 084013, 4 pp.) Hence, the end of the universe in finite proper time via collapse before a black hole completely evaporates is required if unitarity is to remain unviolated, i.e., if General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics--which are what the proofs of Hawking radiation derive from--are true statements of how the world works.
1:42:13 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss invokes the Christ myth theory, including incorrectly claiming that nearly every religion has had virgin births.
Regarding the Christ myth theory, virtually all the items which the Christ myth theorists claim as facts which show the parallels of Christianity with earlier pagan religions are completely fabricated modern claims that can't be found in the historical record. For an excellent discussion on this, see the following video:
"Did Jesus Exist? Shattering the Christ Myth (JP Holding)", rfvidz, Mar. 30, 2012. Did Jesus Exist? Shattering the Christ Myth (JP Holding) - YouTube , http://bethelchristianfellowship.inf...ythCopyCat.m4v
The above video is an interview of James Patrick Holding (editor of Shattering the Christ Myth: Did Jesus Not Exist? [Maitland, Fla.: Xulon Press, 2008] 301 Moved Permanently ) by Dr. Craig Johnson on the topic of the Christ myth theory. See also the below resources regarding the Christ myth theory on J. P. Holding's website:
"Were Bible stories and characters stolen from pagan myths?", Tekton Education and Apologetics Ministry. http://www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html
"Did Jesus exist?", op. cit. http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexisthub.html
1:47:06 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss agrees that the only hope for eternal life is in a collapsing universe.
1:48:06 h:min:sec ff.: An audience member asks Tipler about Matthew 10:23, Mark 9:1 and John 5:25 as being examples of where Jesus Christ incorrectly thought that the End Time was imminent, i.e., within Jesus's own generation.
Matthew 10:23, New King James Version (NKJV) states, "When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes." And indeed they did not go through all the cities of Israel before they died, and hence before Christ's Second Coming.
Mark 9:1, NKJV (cf. Matthew 16:28; Luke 9:27) states, "And He said to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power.'" And then the very next passages concern Christ's Transfiguration, whereby Heaven was also shown.
John 5:25, NKJV states, "Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live." But the next passages, John 5:26-29, go on to state, "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." These passages relate to Jesus's statement that "I am the resurrection and the life." (John 11:25, NKJV. Cf. John 8:12 [cf. 1 John 1:5]; 14:6.) In other words, those raised from death are already existing within Jesus Christ in His transcendent Second Person aspect, since the Father and the Son are One (see Isaiah 9:6; John 10:30; 14:6-13). So when Jesus said this, it was a different way of saying that the Resurrection and the Life stood there before them right then in His human aspect.
So in each of these scripture passages which this audience member gave as examples of Christ getting some things wrong are both examples of Him being correct.
Sometimes people also give Matthew 24:32-35 as being an example of Christ making an incorrect prophecy. However, "this generation" referred to in Matthew 24:34 concerns the generation which witnesses the signs of the End Time which Jesus discusses.
2:02:13 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss talks about Newtonian mechanics being replaced by General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, and hence that we shouldn't be surprised that the current known laws of physics might also be replaced. However, as Tipler pointed out in his presentation, the fundamental physics of today are simply more specific subsets of Newtonian mechanics, i.e., Newtonian mechanics with specific constrains put on it in order to make it consistent with observations and to make its resulting subsets mutually mathematically consistent with each other. Hence, we have never left the realm of Newton's physics. And all the forces in physics are now described and made mutually consistent with the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE. (See above for more on that.) 2:03:26 h:min:sec ff.: Krauss states that the Standard Model of particle physics produces nonsense answers when pushed to high enough energies, as does Quantum Electrodynamics (QED). However, as Tipler previously pointed out in his presentation, imposing unitarity avoids the spacetime infinities of quantum field theory, since if there were not a cut-off to the energies of quantum field theory then miniature black holes would be created and quickly evaporate, thereby violating unitarity. Krauss also gives the infinities of quantum field theory as a reason for thinking that new forms of physics will be required at higher energy scales. However, this mechanism to the energy cut-off also allows the energies to gradually scale to infinity during the collapse phase of the universe (the energies only become actually infinite at the cosmological singularity), which means that there is no need for new physics at higher energy scales.
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Since the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE) is mathematically required by the known laws of physics, of which said physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date, the only way Krauss could have actually argued against Tipler is to argue that the known laws of physics might be wrong. But because those physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment to date, there exists no rational reason to think that they are wrong. Hence, Krauss's irrelevant arguments (or bare assertions, as Krauss also engaged in) against Tipler were unavoidable, since Krauss set himself a logically-impossible task.
For details on the Omega Point TOE, see the following paper by Prof. Tipler:
* F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers", Reports on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (Apr. 2005), pp. 897-964, doi:10.1088/0034-4885/68/4/R04, bibcode: 2005RPPh...68..897T. http://www.math.tulane.edu/~tipler/t...everything.pdf Also released as Frank J. Tipler, "Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended Standard Model as a Theory of Everything", arXiv:0704.3276, Apr. 24, 2007. http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276
The following is the first article on the Omega Point TOE:
* Frank J. Tipler, "Genesis: How the Universe Began According to Standard Model Particle Physics", arXiv:astro-ph/0111520, Nov. 28, 2001. http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0111520 For images that go with the article, see "Frank J. Tipler, Diagrams", Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist. http://theophysics.ifastnet.com/tipler-diagrams.html
For the details regarding the point Prof. Tipler made in his presentation about how modern physics (i.e., General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle physics) are simply special cases of classical mechanics (i.e., Newtonian mechanics, particularly in its most powerful formulation of the Hamilton-Jacobi Equation), see the following articles:
* Frank J. Tipler, "The Obama-Tribe 'Curvature of Constitutional Space' Paper is Crackpot Physics", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Oct. 26, 2008, 45 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1271310. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1271310
* Maurice J. Dupré and Frank J. Tipler, "General Relativity as an Æther Theory", International Journal of Modern Physics D, Vol. 21, No. 2 (Feb. 2012), Art. No. 1250011, 16 pp., doi:10.1142/S0218271812500113, bibcode: 2012IJMPD..2150011D. http://worldscientific.com/doi/abs/1...18271812500113 Also at arXiv:1007.4572, July 26, 2010. http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.4572
* Frank J. Tipler, "Hamilton-Jacobi Many-Worlds Theory and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle", arXiv:1007.4566, July 26, 2010. http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.4566
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In the longer video below, Prof. Tipler gives a popular-audience explanation of the Omega Point cosmology and how the miracles of Jesus Christ are allowed by the known laws of physics:
Jennifer Mayerle, "Does God Exist?", CBS 46 News (WGCL-TV, Atlanta, Ga.), Nov. 13, 2008. In addition to video of the television news report, also contains a 1:08:33 h:min:sec video of a lecture by Prof. Tipler on the Omega Point cosmology. Frank-Tipler-Does-God-Exist-CBS-46-WGCL-2008-11-13.zip , 130201087 bytes, MD5: 63eb6e6eeffb5176bc6590015fd08370. http://flashmirrors.com/files/jmbexhjncxexwo3 , http://mirrorstack.com/48aqe4exglh3
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In the following video, Prof. Tipler discusses how the collapse of the universe is required in order for immortality to exist, and Tipler explains how the universe's collapse will be forced by sapient life:
Frank Tipler, "The Physics of Immortality, Threats to Terran Society, & Self-Replicating Nanotechnology", First Annual Workshop on Geoethical Nanotechnology (prod. co.: Terasem Movement, Inc. [Melbourne Beach, Fla.]), run time: 33 min. Video of a lecture Tipler gave at the Terasem Retreat in Lincoln, Vt. on July 20, 2005. Frank-Tipler-Lecture-Terasem-Movement-2005-7-20.wmv , 263859603 bytes, MD5: 89ee5241a3af7d14bae509bd12654642. http://flashmirrors.com/files/0e7hsk...-2005-7-20.wmv , http://mirrorstack.com/6danmutl39bw
Video file source:
"Program for 1st Annual Workshop on Geoethical Nanotechnology", Terasem Movement, July 20, 2005.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20060...rg/program.htm
http://www.webcitation.org/6FPIMiykv
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20070.../Tiplerdsl.wmv
http://www.webcitation.org/6FPKF1KUs
mms://a1415.v12032b.c12032.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1415/12032/v0001/kurzweil.download.akamai.com/12032/terasem/Tiplerdsl.wmv
Microsoft PowerPoint presentation:
Frank Tipler, "The Universe's Acceleration Must Stop If Life Is to Survive Forever", 10 pp.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20051...ppt/Tipler.ppt
http://www.webcitation.org/6FH8MuR3q
Transcript of Prof. Tipler's above lecture:
Frank Tipler and Ray Kurzweil, "The Physics of Immortality, Threats to Terran Society, & Self-Replicating Nanotechnology, and An Exchange Between Frank Tipler and Ray Kurzweil Regarding Ways to Avoid an End to the Universe", Journal of Geoethical Nanotechnology, Vol. 1, No. 1 (1st quarter 2006); adapted from a lecture given by Frank Tipler at the First Annual Workshop on Geoethical Nanotechnology on July 20, 2005. http://www.terasemjournals.org/GNJou...ipler_01a.html , http://www.terasemjournals.org/GNJou...ipler_01g.html
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Chauncy Glover, "Man says equation proves God exists", Action News (WTEV-TV CBS 47 and WAWS Fox 30, Jacksonville, Fla.), May 17, 2010. Frank-Tipler-CBS-47-WTEV-Fox-30-WAWS-2010-5-17.zip , 16320134 bytes, MD5: 71cc1f4ddd1ddac493fea43f2facd63e. http://flashmirrors.com/files/00o4rk...-2010-5-17.zip , http://mirrorstack.com/ij85k77h6pkq
Note that the news article misattributes the statement "Everything in here is correct and his interpretation of the equation is correct. ..." to Tipler, when in fact as the video of the report makes clear, it was Prof. Paul Richard Simony, head of the Department of Physics at Jacksonville University, who made this statement.
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In the below video, Prof. Tipler's presentation starts at 41:32 min:sec and ends at 1:26:08 h:min:sec. Tipler's talk was part of the Turing Church Online Workshop 2, held on December 11, 2011.
"JH-MR-FT-RS Turing Church Online Workshop", telexlr8, Dec. 12, 2011, run time: 2:09:16 h:min:sec. JH-MR-FT-RS Turing Church Online Workshop - YouTube , http://blip.tv/telexlr8/jh-mr-ft-rs-...shop-2-5819232 , JH-MR-FT-RS Turing Church Online Workshop on Vimeo
The following video is an excerpt of Tipler's above presentation:
"FT Turing Church Online Workshop", telexlr8, Dec. 13, 2011, run time: 21:47 min:sec. FT Turing Church Online Workshop - YouTube , http://blip.tv/telexlr8/ft-turing-ch...shop-2-5819235 , FT Turing Church Online Workshop on Vimeo
The times given below are for the shorter video above (i.e., the excerpt video):
2:40 min:sec ff.: General Relativity is Newtonian mechanics made consistent with the requirement that the speed of light is the same for all observers. The speed of light being the same for all observers is an automatic consequence of Maxwell's Equations, which was first shown by Hendrik Lorentz and then Albert Einstein.
3:20 min:sec ff.: James Clerk Maxwell obtained his Equations because there were five fundamental laws coming from experiment: Faraday's Law; Gauss's Law; Ampère's Law; No Magnetic Monopoles; and Conservation of Electric Charge. Maxwell realized that these laws were mutually mathematically inconsistent: the Conservation of Electric Charge directly contradicts Ampère's Law. So what Maxwell did was add a term to Ampère's Law which made it consistent with the other equations. Maxwell was left with only four equations, but the Conservation of Electric Charge could be derived from them. However, Maxwell's Equations meant that the speed of light had to be the same for all observers.
4:10 min:sec ff.: Elie Cartan showed that in Newtonian mechanics, gravity is curvature of time only; whereas in General Relativity, gravity is curvature of space and time, i.e., spacetime (cf. Frank J. Tipler, The Physics of Christianity [New York: Doubleday, 2007], p. 33; and pp. 79-80 of Frank J. Tipler, "Albert Einstein: A Scientific Reactionary", pp. 73-83, in John Brockman [Ed.], My Einstein [New York: Vintage Books, 2007; orig. pub. 2006]). When Lorentz and Einstein's insight regarding the speed of light being the same for all observers is combined with Newtonian mechanics, then the Newton equations automatically become the Einstein equations.
5:05 min:sec ff.: Quantum Mechanics is a subset of Newtonian mechanics in the most general form of Newtonian mechanics, called the Hamilton-Jacobi Equation, as was independently shown by Lev Landau and David Bohm.
Hence, there was no scientific revolution in the 20th century: what we are in fact doing when we use General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics is using subsets of Newtonian mechanics. Consequently, since all the forces in nature have been described and made consistent with each other (i.e., in the form of the Omega Point/Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE), we have a Theory of Everything (TOE) in physics.
6:12 min:sec ff.: Tipler then goes on to show how the Omega Point cosmology is forced by the known laws of physics.
13:30 min:sec ff.: Tipler discusses quantum indistinguishability, which has been confirmed by many experiments.
18:56 min:sec ff.: There are still infinities in quantum field theory which are not eliminated by renormalization, as has been known since Freeman Dyson's work on this issue more than 50 years ago. However, when one takes into account the requirement imposed by unitarity that the universe must end in finite proper time, these nonrenormalizable infinities in quantum field theory and in Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity can be absorbed into the final singularity so that they never appear within spacetime, whereas the typical boundary conditions used by physicists make quantum field theory inconsistent with observations.
19:50 min:sec ff.: Imposing the Hawking boundary conditions (i.e., that the universe must end in finite proper time in order to avoid the violation of unitarity) on standard quantum field theory and standard quantum gravity theory (i.e., the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg theory of quantum gravity) makes these theories fully mathematically consistent. One thereby obtains a full theory of quantum gravity, of which quantum gravity theory makes the Standard Model of particle physics fully finite within spacetime, which means that with said Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity theory and the Standard Model of particle physics one has a full Theory of Everything (TOE) in physics which is fully mathematically consistent, is finite within spacetime, and is in full agreement with experiment.
21:10 min:sec ff.: The Wheeler-DeWitt Equation is fully mathematically consistent with Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity once the same aforesaid boundary conditions are imposed.
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Host Harry P. Greenberger, Board President Emeritus of the New Orleans Secular Humanist Association (NOSHA; http://nosha.info ), talks with Prof. Frank J. Tipler. NOSHA produces a half-hour program, The New Orleans Humanist Perspective, which airs on Cox Cable, Channel 76, New Orleans, La., Fridays at 8:30 a.m. and p.m., and Sundays at 12 a.m. and p.m.
"Program #135: Einstein and Darwin with Dr. Frank J. Tipler", NewOrleansHumanists, Mar. 15, 2013. Program #135: Einstein and Darwin with Dr. Frank J. Tipler - YouTube
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The below audio interview of Prof. Frank Tipler by Casey Luskin for the Intelligent Design the Future (ID the Future [IDTF]; http://idthefuture.com ) podcast was recorded on February 11, 2013:
"Part 1: Einstein Vs. Darwin", Feb. 13, 2013, run time: 17:25 min:sec. http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...17_47_50-08_00 , http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...7_50-08_00.mp3 , http://www.webcitation.org/6ER9vOCSX
"Part 2: Einstein Vs. Darwin", Feb. 15, 2013, run time: 13:54 min:sec. http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...17_51_01-08_00 , http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...1_01-08_00.mp3 , http://www.webcitation.org/6ESvK1hGX
"Part 3: Einstein Vs. Darwin", Feb. 20, 2013, run time: 10:43 min:sec. http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...16_21_03-08_00 , http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...1_03-08_00.mp3 , http://www.webcitation.org/6EaXBoyA7
"Frank Tipler: Could Einstein Be Published Under Today's Peer-Review Policies?", Feb. 27, 2013, run time: 13:44 min:sec. http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...16_43_59-08_00 , http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.c...3_59-08_00.mp3 , http://www.webcitation.org/6Elz3HRgg
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Re: The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything
Maybe I can transition this thread to ask a different but related question. Who thinks a fairly respectable university such as Tulane should not employ a quack like Frank Tipler? Or do you think that firing him would be tantamount to censorship and there is no way of objectively valuing scientific work?
Personally, I see the potential for abuse if someone is ushered out for unpopular views. It's just a shame that a university hires someone for important work they've done in a field and then that person begins to espouse all sorts of crazy ideas and there's nothing they can do but allow him to continue to use their facilities and sully their name. I can't remember but that professor who is an AIDS denier is also a tenured professor I think.
They always act like they're being subjected to the inquisition or something because people think they've become laughing stocks.