Shemales are just men... don't take my word for it

I dont care what she considers herself shes hot and id fuck the shit out of her!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by dafame

If there is one thing that I dislike about transsexuals its this notion. It's the fact that there are many transsexuals who take this notion and use it to seperate themselves from the rest of the gay community

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I don't think we need to think too hard to see where you're coming from.

Out of interest, how do you regard women with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome?

i just wanna shove my cock in her mouth to shut her up...but wait...i don't want a "mon" sucking my dick...decisions, decisions???

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Originally Posted by dafame

Why do people insist on being so deep in their defense of this shit..lol.. Male vs Female is what we're talking about bruh. No need to be so technical because again you're reinforcing this false belief in these girls which is by far the worse part about them. I wish people would stop doing that but I realize also that just as many of them need that false sense of identity, so do many of us men in dealing with them.

Either end you're on its a complicated situation but it would be a lot simpler if people learned to love themselves for who they are rather than what they've managed to convince themselves they are or convinced themselves that the person they love or find an attraction to is.

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So keep it simple and stupid?

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Originally Posted by Merkurie

So keep it simple and stupid?

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Maybe, but he just sounds like a homosexual man who hates transsexuals.:shrug

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Originally Posted by MacShreach

I don't think we need to think too hard to see where you're coming from.

Out of interest, how do you regard women with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome?

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Yeah I think I made it clear as day where I'm coming from but I'll clarify the point that you highlighted incase there are some that don't catch on as quickly as you and I do.

You and I my friend do not consider ourselves gay and thus not a part of the gay community. We are attracted to feminity as apposed to masculinity and this fact excludes us of any mention of the "g-word". We don't participate in any gay community functions "balls or pride festivals" and may or may not have a gay friend but chances are don't particularly hang out with gay men simply because there's not a common bond.

I think that what may seperate us though is the fact that I am well aware of the fact that these girls were born male and in most cases have penises. I am also aware of the fact that I wouldn't be on this board if the fact that they have or had penises wasn't a determining factor in why I'm attracted to them.

In others words I don't play games with myself about what motivates me in order to somehow protect what I deam as my masculinity. I know who I am and love being me and there isn't anything that can make me feel like less of a man. Even dating a girl who has a penis that I know isn't prostetic because SHE WAS BORN WITH IT.

Does that pretty much some up where you thought I was coming from bruh?

As far as how I feel about women with Androgen insensitivity syndrome: "Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) is caused by various genetic defects on the X chromosome that make the body unable to respond to the hormones responsible for the male appearance. Persons with incomplete AIS may have both male and female physical characteristics. Many have partial closing of the outer vaginal lips, an enlarged clitoris, and a short vagina."

So to answer your question I feel for them the way I would a person with any other genetic disorder. It's extremelly rare however and doesn't really apply to what we're talking about because I highly doubt that there's a transsexual that either of us have met that suffers from this disorder and is even a less likely possibility that anyone on this board was diagnosed with this at birth to elaborate on it.

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Originally Posted by qwerty94

hahaha... i was going to comment if anyone had the link. -___-




hmm... I didn't really see anything wrong or offensive with the video. I mean, she thinks what she wants, just as I think what I want. I do believe that if she stays in that mindset, she probably wont be happy for a long time. That's on her. I accept myself as a woman, people see me as a woman at home, at work, walking down the street, etc.

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And you're one fine woman.

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Originally Posted by Merkurie

So keep it simple and stupid?

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Again Merkurie I'm not mad at you bruh. I completely understand why you're saying the things you said. It doesn't make them valid points but we all have to choose which side we stand on when it comes to a particular issue. Especially one as devicive as this one. It's just unfortunate that many people just want to earn some to of applause line from the girls instead of standing on fact.

It baffles me why this is something so hard for people to accept when I think that being transgendered is a beautiful thing.

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Originally Posted by dafame

Yeah I think I made it clear as day where I'm coming from but I'll clarify the point that you highlighted incase there are some that don't catch on as quickly as you and I do.

You and I my friend do not consider ourselves gay and thus not a part of the gay community. We are attracted to feminity as apposed to masculinity and this fact excludes us of any mention of the "g-word". We don't participate in any gay community functions "balls or pride festivals" and may or may not have a gay friend but chances are don't particularly hang out with gay men simply because there's not a common bond.

I think that what may seperate us though is the fact that I am well aware of the fact that these girls were born male and in most cases have penises. I am also aware of the fact that I wouldn't be on this board if the fact that they have or had penises wasn't a determining factor in why I'm attracted to them.

In others words I don't play games with myself about what motivates me in order to somehow protect what I deam as my masculinity. I know who I am and love being me and there isn't anything that can make me feel like less of a man. Even dating a girl who has a penis that I know isn't prostetic because SHE WAS BORN WITH IT.

Does that pretty much some up where you thought I was coming from bruh?

As far as how I feel about women with Androgen insensitivity syndrome: "Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) is caused by various genetic defects on the X chromosome that make the body unable to respond to the hormones responsible for the male appearance. Persons with incomplete AIS may have both male and female physical characteristics. Many have partial closing of the outer vaginal lips, an enlarged clitoris, and a short vagina."

So to answer your question I feel for them the way I would a person with any other genetic disorder. It's extremelly rare however and doesn't really apply to what we're talking about because I highly doubt that there's a transsexual that either of us have met that suffers from this disorder and is even a less likely possibility that anyone on this board was diagnosed with this at birth to elaborate on it.

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Well, in the first place, I'm not your friend, or your 'bruh.' If you are suggesting that I don't know that an MTF transsexual was born with a penis, then you are similarly mistaken.

I'm very happy for you, in that you are so proud of being a man. Are you so proud of that that you deny in others the right not to be proud of it, indeed, not to see themselves as men at all? Perhaps you are rather more insecure in your masculinity than you might like us to believe.

I'm also happy that I provoked you to do some internet reading and hoopefully to expand your knowledge a little. However, you have not really answered my question: AIS women have XY chromosomes, no ovaries, no uterus and no chance of ever having children. Frequently they have testicles, often remaining inside the abdominal cavity, and may have a vestigial penis, depending on the severity of the condition. Similarly they develop secondary female characteristics and their bodies do not masculinise, because they synthesise a natural version of a t-blocker. Now, do you consider them to be men or women? Simple enough, I'd have thought.

It has been claimed there’s nothing wrong with being what we were meant to be. But who meant me to be what I am? God? That’s a defunct idea. The Universe? Like the universe designed the things within it to serve a function and have a meaning. Biology? Chance? At conception my mother contributed an X chromosome and my father a Y. Did Chance “want” me to be a male, or was it just chance that I’m genetically male? Did Nature mean me to be a man in addition to being male? Does society? Is there really nothing at all wrong with being what society means you to be? So because I'm genetically male, does society mean[] me to be, want[] me to be a man? To function within the norms and customs as a man? I know there’s a very vocal segment of narrow minded bigots who do? Fuck them. And fuck their self-appointed spokespersons on this board. Can we not be self-determined and take responsibility for ourselves? Can we not be what we mean ourselves to be? Can we not please expect the respect that self-determination requires?