Shemales are just men... don't take my word for it

[mealticket]

I think she is referring more to the genetic make up of her body...it makes sense but it is her opinion and I am sure others will be against it and others for it...

[nonnonnon]

if you're dumb like me, you can click the photo for the video lol!

[MdR Dave]

Really don't see anything wrong with what she said. What is there to snap out of?

I wasn't talking about this video- she's apparently having s tough go, is in a lot of pain (some of it apparently self inflicted) and is often near incoherent.

She's not"fine".

[dafame]

Kinda hard to take that seriously when i'm trans and have and F on my license. I'm pretty sure they only put the F on a females license. I don't need anyone telling me who I am, I am a woman regardless of others opinions. If many doctors, psychiatrists, and my state see's me as a woman, then who is anyone else to tell me otherwise?

Well the answer that some might give is GOD but being that I'm not a believer I'll say perhaps the doctor that birthed you.

Look this isn't a knock and I say what's most important is how you feel about yourself. But there is a such thing as fact and it really can't be disputed. Like the girl said no matter how many hormones you take you can't change your bone structure for instance. Not without surgically doing so where surgery allows. I could have a surgen give me a big round nose but that doesn't then constitute me "clown" and no longer human.

Point is why do you girls feel the need to insist that you're woman and no different from a genetic female? Why do you guys insist on validating this when none of you would be here if there wasn't anything that separated them from genetic females?

Point is what's wrong with being a "transsexual"? I think that's what the girl in the video was saying.

[qwerty94]

if you're dumb like me, you can click the photo for the video lol!

hahaha... i was going to comment if anyone had the link. -___-




hmm... I didn't really see anything wrong or offensive with the video. I mean, she thinks what she wants, just as I think what I want. I do believe that if she stays in that mindset, she probably wont be happy for a long time. That's on her. I accept myself as a woman, people see me as a woman at home, at work, walking down the street, etc.

[Merkurie]

She is entitled to her own opinion. And while it is blunt I would not say she is "attacking" anyone.

What bothers me is the whole concept of transexuals being men. Or having been born men. Nobody is born a man. People become men or women as you grow through childhood, but you are not born a man or a woman. People are born male or female (XY, XX, XXY, XYY). As they grow they let you know if they are boys or girls, hetero bi or homo sexual etc.

What constitutes a man (or woman) is highly dependent on the culture you live in, how you live your life and how others interact with you, and a bunch of other factors. On most any count you can imagine transwomen are not men. The skin you are in makes you male or female (or intersexed) but that alone does not make a man or a woman.

Putting people into two rigid gender groups is a western thing rooted in the Abrahamic religions and not the case in a number of cultures or eras. It is fundamentally ignorant and it is ultimately enforced by violence.

[dafame]

hahaha... i was going to comment if anyone had the link. -___-




hmm... I didn't really see anything wrong or offensive with the video. I mean, she thinks what she wants, just as I think what I want. I do believe that if she stays in that mindset, she probably wont be happy for a long time. That's on her. I accept myself as a woman, people see me as a woman at home, at work, walking down the street, etc.

That's good Qwerty. You see yourself as a woman and people see you as a woman when you walk down the street. I'm pretty sure that people see her as a woman when she walks down the street as well.

I just think that you guys are missing the point. I didn't see anything that would make me say "she's unhappy", and I know transsexuals who accept the same reality that she was talking and they don't appear to be unhappy either.

Are you suggesting that's what it takes for a transsexual to be happy? To completely convince themselves that they are absolutely no different then any other woman who has a mentral cycle each month?

If it makes you happy to tell yourself this I don't see anything wrong with it if that's where your happyness comes from. But I think it's entirely different to suggest that this girl will be unhappy unless she starts thinking the same way.

If there is one thing that I dislike about transsexuals its this notion. It's the fact that there are many transsexuals who take this notion and use it to seperate themselves from the rest of the gay community (in there own minds). It's the reason that many transsexuals don't like men who like transsexuals because that very fact reminds them that they are infact transsexuals and not genetic women who bleed once a month.

Again I'll ask, what is so terrible about being a transsexual? What's so terrible about being what you are and were meant to be? I think that if you were meant to be genetic women then you would have been born that way, so why is it so difficult to celebrate the beauty of what you were meant to be?

[LibertyHarkness]

me i see myself as a transgendered woman ...but i think each person has a different mental approach to it and also a level of acceptance , she has openly admitted manytimes that she struggles with the TS thing .but she is very young and as some have had said no support ..

Myself i was a later transitioner, i have full support of my entire family, no issues etc so i have been lucky and only had to get my head round the intial instance..then its been plain sailing .. so i have never had to deal with being alone, no family help,love etc so that entire concept is alien to me .

Personally i think to many people look to deep into it rather than just accept it is what is ...and not be worried about labels ...

All that matters is your happy at the end of day , and interms of actual gender identity on a personal level sure people can state fact etc .. but in reality its your legal document that entitles you to live in the gender ... So if your passport is female then you will have female privelages, if your male you have male privelages `and are protected by the law accordingly..

The way i see it is this, a body is just a shell, vehicle like lego that can be adapted.ajusted ... your brain cant .... so you have a female brain and cant alter that but you can alter your body to match your brain .

The whole neovagina/fake vagina crap that many people blast about not having babies etc, not having a womb so there for will never make you a real woman is abit moot .. as what about the hundred of thousands of women that cant have babies, have no womb etc , are they men then ?

The only flaw i see with a neovagina is the self lubricatiion aspect that is not quite right ..but otherwise it does the same thing..

But of course everyone is entitled to their views ...its an interesting subject matter and intriguing to see how different girls deal with their transtioning .

[dafame]

What bothers me is the whole concept of transexuals being men. Or having been born men. Nobody is born a man. People become men or women as you grow through childhood, but you are not born a man or a woman. People are born male or female (XY, XX, XXY, XYY). As they grow they let you know if they are boys or girls, hetero bi or homo sexual etc.

Why do people insist on being so deep in their defense of this shit..lol.. Male vs Female is what we're talking about bruh. No need to be so technical because again you're reinforcing this false belief in these girls which is by far the worse part about them. I wish people would stop doing that but I realize also that just as many of them need that false sense of identity, so do many of us men in dealing with them.

Either end you're on its a complicated situation but it would be a lot simpler if people learned to love themselves for who they are rather than what they've managed to convince themselves they are or convinced themselves that the person they love or find an attraction to is.

[robertlouis]

me i see myself as a transgendered woman ...but i think each person has a different mental approach to it and also a level of acceptance , she has openly admitted manytimes that she struggles with the TS thing .but she is very young and as some have had said no support ..

Myself i was a later transitioner, i have full support of my entire family, no issues etc so i have been lucky and only had to get my head round the intial instance..then its been plain sailing .. so i have never had to deal with being alone, no family help,love etc so that entire concept is alien to me .

Personally i think to many people look to deep into it rather than just accept it is what is ...and not be worried about labels ...

All that matters is your happy at the end of day , and interms of actual gender identity on a personal level sure people can state fact etc .. but in reality its your legal document that entitles you to live in the gender ... So if your passport is female then you will have female privelages, if your male you have male privelages `and are protected by the law accordingly..

The way i see it is this, a body is just a shell, vehicle like lego that can be adapted.ajusted ... your brain cant .... so you have a female brain and cant alter that but you can alter your body to match your brain .

The whole neovagina/fake vagina crap that many people blast about not having babies etc, not having a womb so there for will never make you a real woman is abit moot .. as what about the hundred of thousands of women that cant have babies, have no womb etc , are they men then ?

The only flaw i see with a neovagina is the self lubricatiion aspect that is not quite right ..but otherwise it does the same thing..

But of course everyone is entitled to their views ...its an interesting subject matter and intriguing to see how different girls deal with their transtioning .

On the money as always, Liberty. Watching the vid and in particular listening to Ellery my main point is concern for her. She's always been fragile and it seems to be getting worse. I come from the same part of the world as she does and any departure from dour presbyterian norms there will always be viewed with suspicion, distrust, fear and hate. It's a hellish place to be different, so I really feel for her. I hope she can get out before it's too late.