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EvonRose
it was a sarcastic joke asshole!
there's no need to call me names because your joke isn't funny :(
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Originally Posted by
bluesoul
there's no need to call me names because your joke isn't funny :(
In all fairness you are being an ass...
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
In all fairness you are being an ass...
how, by suggesting you could be wrong about something? :)
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Originally Posted by
bluesoul
how, by suggesting you could be wrong about something? :)
No I'm always right... Wrong about what bitch?
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EvonRose
Wrong about what bitch?
i'd tell you, but i don't want you to wet your bed tonight :dancing:
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bluesoul
i'd tell you, but i don't want you to wet your bed tonight :dancing:
Very mature, my ass is still better than your face.:dancing:
BTW I get paid to pee on people... so joke is on you.
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EvonRose
Very mature, my ass is still better than your face.:dancing:
BTW I get paid to pee on people... so joke is on you.
not sure how you came about that conclusion, but for your sake
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bluesoul
The truth hurts? lol...
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Originally Posted by
EvonRose
Very mature, my ass is still better than your face.:dancing:
BTW I get paid to pee on people... so joke is on you.
not sure how you came about that conclusion, but for your sake
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p.s. i said "wet your bed" not pee on someone.
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Dude, if you don't get anything she is saying you're an idiot, you were going to cause her to wet her bed, most of her clients lay in her bed, some of her clients pay to be peed on, she wets the bed the client is in it she gets paid extra. What the hell was so hard to put together? Lord, so many shattered egos on this forum.
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mathematics1900
Dude, if you don't get anything she is saying you're an idiot, you were going to cause her to wet her bed, most of her clients lay in her bed, some of her clients pay to be peed on, she wets the bed the client is in it she gets paid extra. What the hell was so hard to put together? Lord, so many shattered egos on this forum.
so she wets the bed on purpose and it has nothing to do with the bullshit story about being from a more temperate country?
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so she wets the bed on purpose and it has nothing to do with the bullshit story about being from a more temperate country?
Is that the best logic you can present? She was joking, why are you so worked up? Lol, go away already man you're embarrassing yourself.
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bluesoul
it's not a story I am from another country....
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Originally Posted by
mathematics1900
Is that the best logic you can present? She was joking, why are you so worked up? Lol, go away already man you're embarrassing yourself.
what makes you think i'm worked up? :confused:
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bluesoul
what makes you think i'm worked up? :confused:
Really? your going off on a lighthearted joke, for absolutely no reason mofo...
So obviously theres an underlying hatred you have towards me...
I'm so sorry your dad touched you, but you need to talk to a doctor as oppose to taking it out on innocent people like me.
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what makes you think i'm worked up?
You're posting sarcastic gifs of neil patrick harris, yeah dude, you're worked up.
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EvonRose
I'm so sorry your dad touched you, but you need to talk to a doctor as oppose to taking it out on innocent people like me.
thanks for the well wishes :)
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bluesoul
thanks for the well wishes :)
Oh no problem... It must be hard...
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Evon, girl...you are not innocent!
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Originally Posted by
KellyShore
Grim I found almost every post you made as a way to score brownie points..kudos
Yeah maybe I wanted prince charming in high school, like every female does..especially when I used to watch Sleeping Beauty on repeat..
But you grow out of it typically in college and through dating error and mistakes..social networking with the opposite sex.
HOWEVER - I just think where a lot of issue stem from is girls love to play the victim and "misery loves company"
I'm sorry if I don't have much pity for girls who play that card. I went to high school in a town of 2500 people as a female. I never let my transition handicap me or allow others to define who I was. I honestly think girls who transition older have a harder perspective on social dating and differentiating why men act differently in a "escort" setting than they would outside it. Since a lot of sex workers turn to it to afford the expenses of transition. This typically will be most of their social interaction and relationship with men for most of their transition. Which of course gives them a miscued look at things. This is why I suggest counseling..
I also apologize if I have understanding and empathy for what a man goes through when he dates a transsexual openly. Why do I have that empathy? Because I remember how it was the first day I transitioned. I remember the family arguments and trials I had. I remember when my father three months later called me his "little princess and I always was". I remember when kids in school after a year of teasing my freshman year started to come around. I remember how hard it was grasping for my identity after my mother died. I remember every tid bit and I remember feeling grateful how my life turned out in many ways. Still to this day I'm grateful how easy I have honestly had it. It's why I became a transgender activist in the first place. What the problem is girls forget so easily what it was like to take their first steps.
You usually see the change somewhere around the time a girl gets implants or she becomes "beautiful" or passable. However somehow those trials of sadness through her transition are always in the back of her head, and she in turns acts out. By degrading others the way she may of been degraded. It lifts her up.
She also feels a sense of "I'm so hot" I can degrade this guy and he still wants me. It's a way of power. As you will see many girls in this thread reassure themselves of their beauty and how passable they are by the men they date. So even though many have a bad view of men, they still base their passability on the men they date.
Less on if they can walk down the street, be treated like normal in any public setting. Including going in a girls locker room say in a public gym and having no one think the wiser. All those things that any transsexual woman should be grateful for, they aren't. So many transsexual women who aren't passable would kill to have that blessing, so if I don't have pity for a lot of the girls on this board and girls from the adult world you will just have to forgive me.
I feel many ALLOW how they are treated.
I feel many enable men to treat us with disrespect, instead of educating them, they argue and demean them. Which doesn't bring the good out in anyone.
It saddens me when I see friend after friend who finds a great guy, but oh no something in his past puts him on the chopping block. Whether it be he slept with another trans or dated one or slept around figuring out what they want.
Here's a news flash..when people are trying to figure out their sexuality..they SLEEP AROUND A LOT. Especially when it goes from being straight to something alternative. Because SEX plays such a vital role on how one identifies themselves.
There are cases when someone feels they are gay, but do not enjoy sex with men. They surprisingly enjoy sex with women. But in this case the male still feels he is a gay man.
I just think being a trans woman and being around trans women MANY are their own worst enemy not only in life partner relationships but friendships in general.
It's where a lot of the cattiness, backstabbing, hating on one another' looks all stem from, and it's why when a girl who is farther down the line in her transition will look down on another transsexual who isn't. Because they need that sense of validation and power, to feed their own hole and ego..
Do you understand what I am saying now Grim?
I understood what you meant the first time. I think we're actually agreeing on a lot of stuff, but I went off on some weird tangent about HA specifically. I'm not denying that transgendered women generally have issues in relationships, especially if they get into escorting to support their transitions and then try dating. That's a crazy-ass lifestyle. My argument is that they have reasons neither of us totally understand because neither of us escorted (for any length of time... shhh! lol). I think it's understandable that they would mistreat good men they end up with. It's not right, especially when it's not the "defective boyfriend" but rather the girls own personal insecurities, a need to feel completely independent, and a fear of getting too close or personal that has them jumping through a series of shitty, short-lived relationships. It's not right, but it comes with the territory when your profession is getting used.
I know you're probably thinking "well, you're just considering escorts. That's not fair". You're right, and you may know better than I do, but I think there's a correlation between transsexual escorts and this type of behavior that doesn't exist in the same degree with girls who chose not to escort. The "I think I'm better than you" condescending attitude is human nature whenever anyone's self-image improves. Eventually that sense of entitlement wears off unless there are other underlying hang-ups.
My first post wasn't meant to demonize the guys around here. My only intention was to say that there's bull shit coming from both sides. It's not just a "Guys are all chasers" and "Tgirls are all so petty and insecure" deal. It's a "There are shitty people in both camps" issue. I've just noticed that in hanging around here since 2005, the majority of girls have a reason to be bitchy. The dudes? Not so much.
Lemme put it this way; despite the amount of ostrazation men face in introducing transgendered girlfriends to friends and family, if a dude just can't put up with the scrutiny, he still has the option to break up and go date a GG. Nearly instant normality. Do transgendered women have the same option? Just go right back to being a dude? Not really. It's not the same thing.
Guys that have been through two or three relationships with transsexuals know what they're getting themselves into. Assuming the first-timers are aware of the community, they hear about all that crap second-hand anyhow. It's not like we're completely blind-sided when we get dumped by a chick in the middle of a mental breakdown.
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KittyPride
You call that a holocaust?
Well I think a lot of Tgirls deserve chasers because of their masculine behavior... and a lot of chasers deserve those Tgirls coz they are after transwoman that are half men anyway...
I know a lot of transwoman dont live in reality...
Ive talked to some that claimed they slept with men who did not notice at all they were TS... while I could obviously see it... let alone that men would not sense it...
Also a lot of them are in some sorth of denial that they are TS.
I know a girl that wanted to show her new date to a transgirlfriend of hers... and introduce him as "finally found a guy that isnt a chaser or cockhound" Turned out that he dated with her pre op girlfriend before and he especially like the cock lol
But my girlfriend did not tell her... not to dissapoint her... or betray the guy.
I am totally at ease with guys that have been with TS before... even TV's no problem!!! Its actually a plus cause you know they wont go mental after sex with strange feelings of guilt or go into a sexual identity crisis.
To be honest I really dont like men that do that. lol
I have been able to avoid it... but I think its horrible. happened to a lot of Tgirlfriends of mine. I kept my ears open and listened very carefully to them and tried to make sure it never happened to me.
I was warned for the cockhounds long before I ever dated fortunately lol.
I remember at first being so dissapointed to hear it and even kind of upset. But I had to take this for real.
Good thing that are guys out there that match with me too.
Also you are right about dating heterosexual men. Its not that easy. Especially for him... cause he has to give up his heterosexual identity to the outside world. It actually makes ME feel very bad for those guys.
Its unfair for them also.
Oh, please. Fuck them and their precious straight sexuality status. Talk about little boys not growing the fuck up. NO ONE CARES WHO'S "GAY" or really knows for sure quite how "gay" they are. There's a homosexual male subculture and there are meat markets which surround it. You'd do yourself a huge favor if you stopped confusing sodomy and "being gay". It speaks volumes about how sexually repressed you are, and how you were raised to feel guilty and embarrassed about yourself and what's in between your legs.
And something about your personal history rings untrue. I can't put my finger on it, but that "hearing about the cockhounds, and then I experienced them" stuff sounds like bullshit. Your philosophies on everything you talk about don't sound like they're based in reality. I get the sense that you're a part time CD living in a daydream.
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Originally Posted by
GrimFusion
I understood what you meant the first time. I think we're actually agreeing on a lot of stuff, but I went off on some weird tangent about HA specifically. I'm not denying that transgendered women generally have issues in relationships, especially if they get into escorting to support their transitions and then try dating. That's a crazy-ass lifestyle. My argument is that they have reasons neither of us totally understand because neither of us escorted (for any length of time... shhh! lol). I think it's understandable that they would mistreat good men they end up with. It's not right, especially when it's not the "defective boyfriend" but rather the girls own personal insecurities, a need to feel completely independent, and a fear of getting too close or personal that has them jumping through a series of shitty, short-lived relationships. It's not right, but it comes with the territory when your profession is getting used.
I know you're probably thinking "well, you're just considering escorts. That's not fair". You're right, and you may know better than I do, but I think there's a correlation between transsexual escorts and this type of behavior that doesn't exist in the same degree with girls who chose not to escort. The "I think I'm better than you" condescending attitude is human nature whenever anyone's self-image improves. Eventually that sense of entitlement wears off unless there are other underlying hang-ups.
My first post wasn't meant to demonize the guys around here. My only intention was to say that there's bull shit coming from both sides. It's not just a "Guys are all chasers" and "Tgirls are all so petty and insecure" deal. It's a "There are shitty people in both camps" issue. I've just noticed that in hanging around here since 2005, the majority of girls have a reason to be bitchy. The dudes? Not so much.
Lemme put it this way; despite the amount of ostrazation men face in introducing transgendered girlfriends to friends and family, if a dude just can't put up with the scrutiny, he still has the option to break up and go date a GG. Nearly instant normality. Do transgendered women have the same option? Just go right back to being a dude? Not really. It's not the same thing.
Guys that have been through two or three relationships with transsexuals know what they're getting themselves into. Assuming the first-timers are aware of the community, they hear about all that crap second-hand anyhow. It's not like we're completely blind-sided when we get dumped by a chick in the middle of a mental breakdown.
Wow grim im impressed!
I agree with you and you hit it right on the nail...Good job! I wish I could kiss you but the computer is kind win the way.
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EvonRose
Wow grim im impressed!
I agree with you and you hit it right on the nail...Good job! I wish I could kiss you but the computer is kind win the way.
Yeah, that was a good post.
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Nicole Dupre
Oh, please. Fuck them and their precious straight sexuality status. Talk about little boys not growing the fuck up. NO ONE CARES WHO'S "GAY" or really knows for sure quite how "gay" they are. There's a homosexual male subculture and there are meat markets which surround it. You'd do yourself a huge favor if you stopped confusing sodomy and "being gay". It speaks volumes about how sexually repressed you are, and how you were raised to feel guilty and embarrassed about yourself and what's in between your legs.
Humm hummm not quite sure what you mean. I mean... terms like sodomy to me sound like they originated from sexual repression????? I mean; cmon??
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And something about your personal history rings untrue. I can't put my finger on it, but that "hearing about the cockhounds, and then I experienced them" stuff sounds like bullshit. Your philosophies on everything you talk about don't sound like they're based in reality. I get the sense that you're a part time CD living in a daydream.
I did not experience cockhounds... IRL. I filtered them out when I started online dating. There were very few men left lol. Close to none actually. lol
Once you say you are a TS... all kinds of shady people come after you lol.
I had the luck of meeting a transgendered woman with long experience and she told me all about the men she encountered... and also the stories her girlfriends told her through the years and it turns out she was a 100% accurate... well almost.
Im glad I was prepared... I would have felt very dissapointed when a nice guy would hit one me... only to find out he wants to wear my lingery and feel my cock in his ass.
I actually really dont get it, that I am one of the few girls here upset about that lol
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Actually I have to apologize for comparing men to dogs awhile ago... That wasn't fair...
Dogs are loyal...
haha
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EvonRose
Actually I have to apologize for comparing men to dogs awhile ago... That wasn't fair...
Dogs are loyal...
haha
True I wish men were dogs :D lol
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Sodomy is any sexual penetration outside of penile/vaginal. And I know the origin of the word and I still don't care. Sodomy's more accurate than saying "gay". I'm a proud sodomist.
You should read Michel Foucault's The History of Sexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Nicole Dupre
Oh, please. Fuck them and their precious straight sexuality status. Talk about little boys not growing the fuck up. NO ONE CARES WHO'S "GAY" or really knows for sure quite how "gay" they are. There's a homosexual male subculture and there are meat markets which surround it. You'd do yourself a huge favor if you stopped confusing sodomy and "being gay". It speaks volumes about how sexually repressed you are, and how you were raised to feel guilty and embarrassed about yourself and what's in between your legs.
And something about your personal history rings untrue. I can't put my finger on it, but that "hearing about the cockhounds, and then I experienced them" stuff sounds like bullshit. Your philosophies on everything you talk about don't sound like they're based in reality. I get the sense that you're a part time CD living in a daydream.
Nice bait post.
Wouldn't it be kinda redundant if Kitty got all upset because you called her a crossdresser when you just got done claiming that dudes shouldn't get all worked up over petty labels? Oh, shit. I just spoiled it.
I agree with the first paragraph, though... kinda. There are people out in the world that have such a personal disdain for alternative sexuality that they're more than willing to meddle and cause problems. For guys that purposely seek out transsexuals, that's not a valid reason for a dude to claim he's 100% straight. That's just a big fuckin' lie. That's where your opinion and mine kinda part ways.
If a dude wants to be a dumb ass and claim he's 100% straight on a transsexual porn forum, I don't feel the need to call him out because intelligent posters can already see right though that veil. If that same dude gets a shot with a girl around here that's gullible enough to believe him, more power to the dude. At least he's getting laid, and I know which chick I probably want to avoid talking to.
I know I don't need to get into it, but fuck it. Personally, I'm secure in the idea that I have no fucking clue what my "determinable sexuality" is. I don't give a damn. If I could give less of a damn than that, I'd set it aside for the dipshits who think their opinions of my sexuality have an impact on me. If someone else's opinion of my sexuality is so negative they feel the need to explain it to me, I don't need them around. I don't get mad about it, I just don't get involved. Call me gay. It'll make me giggle.
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Nicole Dupre
I'm more content just calling it anal sex. I don't need to be reminded that one of my sexual interests is named after a city in ancient Canaan and the basis of a fucked up set of Bible passages that speak against the act of sodomy as a sin. It's kinda a buzz kill.
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Sodomy wasn't not a sin, it was an abomination...
Ancient translation translated abomination to something uncommon, or unclean. Not sin.
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EvonRose
Sodomy wasn't not a sin, it was an abomination...
Ancient translation translated abomination to something uncommon, or unclean. Not sin.
I'm an atheist, so I'll just go ahead and assume you know what you're talking about because I can't say I know any better. Abomination or not, I just don't like to be reminded of the bible before butt-fucking. That's a little morose, but I think you catch my drift.
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GrimFusion
I'm an atheist, so I'll just go ahead and assume you know what you're talking about because I don't believe in sin. Abomination or not, I just don't like to be reminded of the bible before butt-fucking. That's a little morose, but I think you catch my drift.
Oh yeah, but abomination was a cultural thing, you don need to be religious.
Eating shellfish was an abomination because people didn't know how properly clean it and eat it...
Anal sex was something new and uncommon, they didn't have proper education on it like we do now... etc...
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EvonRose
Oh yeah, but abomination was a cultural thing, you don need to be religious.
Eating shellfish was an abomination because people didn't know how properly clean it and eat it...
Anal sex was something new and uncommon, they didn't have proper education on it like we do now... etc...
Aw, fuck it. Sodomy it is then. Who's down?
I'm amazed at how dead things get around here on Saturday nights. Why aren't you out and about?
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it comes with the territory when your profession is getting used.
It's not just a "Guys are all chasers" and "Tgirls are all so petty and insecure" deal. It's a "There are shitty people in both camps" issue.
Nearly instant normality.
Being used occurs in a lot more industries than the escorting business. Also, not every escort feels used, and even though you feel like that is what you are doing when you see one...using them for sex, not everybody feels the same way. Also I don't recall anyone stating that it is all one sides fault, I'm pretty sure as adults we all understand that every group has bad apples.
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Nearly instant normality.
You should be making the box you live in larger sir, not smaller.
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mathematics1900
Being used occurs in a lot more industries than the escorting business. Also, not every escort feels used, and even though you feel like that is what you are doing when you see one...using them for sex, not everybody feels the same way. Also I don't recall anyone stating that it is all one sides fault, I'm pretty sure as adults we all understand that every group has bad apples.
You should be making the box you live in larger sir, not smaller.
Excellent selective quoting of Grim to take everything out of context. You must work for NBC ...
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Excellent selective quoting of Grim to take everything out of context. You must work for NBC ...
I read this entire thread, and all his posts, taken out of context? Um no, first statement I quoted was referenced because he did state it isn't all one sides fault...which no one was really talking about, because we realize every group has bad apples.
His opinion about escorts being used wasn't taken out of context either, that is what I was lead to believe from his statements, that being an escort means you are being used. Now for the last statement I quoted, "Nearly instant normality.", ignoring the obvious grammatical blunder just the fact that he believes the idea of normality lets me know that yes, he is still living inside a box, a box that is much too small for his potential.
However if you were unable to make any of those connections, and simply thought I was making a baseless post, then you're dumb. Maybe you should go back to watching FOX news?
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Originally Posted by
mathematics1900
I read this entire thread, and all his posts, taken out of context? Um no, first statement I quoted was referenced because he did state it isn't all one sides fault...which no one was really talking about, because we realize every group has bad apples.
His opinion about escorts being used wasn't taken out of context either, that is what I was lead to believe from his statements, that being an escort means you are being used. Now for the last statement I quoted, "Nearly instant normality.", ignoring the obvious grammatical blunder just the fact that he believes the idea of normality lets me know that yes, he is still living inside a box, a box that is much too small for his potential.
However if you were unable to make any of those connections, and simply thought I was making a baseless post, then you're dumb. Maybe you should go back to watching FOX news?
Maybe you should go back to using your original screen name, sock puppet.
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Maybe you should go back to using your original screen name, sock puppet.
I just debunked your accusation, shall I debunk this one too? You and I both know the accomplishments in your life are limited, do you really need to be disgraced on the internet on top of your family already seeing you as a disgrace?
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mathematics1900
I just debunked your accusation, shall I debunk this one too? You and I both know the accomplishments in your life are limited, do you really need to be disgraced on the internet on top of your family already seeing you as a disgrace?
Oh goodie, this should be more fun than a barrel full of monkeys. Go ahead disgrace me puppet. Winning an Internet argument is so important in the grand scheme of things, right?
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Oh goodie, this should be more fun than a barrel full of monkeys. Go ahead disgrace me puppet. Winning an Internet argument is so important in the grand scheme of things, right?
Importance is an individual truth, and I am pretty positive you don't have the capacity to contemplate grand schemes.
