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You talk such shit Franklin. I've said this multiple times, YOU do not represent EVERYBODY buying or wanting TS porn, so don't speak for everyone. By all means speak for yourself but leave it there because the facts speak for themselves - and you are incorrect.
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Originally Posted by seanchai
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Sometimes you remind me little bit of Tomcat.
You're full shit. I can speak for everyone. Straight men WANT hardcore scenes. They do NOT want solo porn. Today very few straight solo sites and DVDs are made. Twistys is the only successful straight solo site. We want hardcore scenes. The top porn sites like Brazzers, Reality Kings, Naughty America, etc only shoot hardcore content because that is what straight men want.
The only reason why you're bitching at me is because Grooby is like most TS porn companies. Grooby is too damn cheap. The video quality is far below average. The overall model quality is bad. You even said it yourself that you weren't going to book Yasmin Lee because of her rates. Most TS fans would rather see Yasmin Lee and Kelly Shore before ever looking at 99% of the TS women I see on Shemale Yum.
Actually Franklin I'm finding the opposite on these points.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
My sales have grown to the point I'll be putting more money into content for my second year. I asked my website members if they wanted me to add two more solo sets each month or to change one of my existing solos to a hardcore. My member response has overwhelmingly been add more solos. Pro advice has been to do the hard cores so I haven't made a final decision what direction I'll move, but it's worth noting the fan response.
Similarly, I track sales by set so I understand what content is driving new sales for me. My best selling scenes are all shot by the least skilled photographer/ videographer. You can also look to C4s for more support. Look through their top selling studios and clips and you'll notice some serious dogs quality wise. Are there some folks like you who are videophiles? Sure. But the vast majority of folks care about getting off don't care about high end specs on video quality.
Where is your poll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendy Summers
Do you remember Hannah Sweden? http://hannahsweden.com/
Her site only featured solo content. What happen to it? She said she wasn't making money. Why? Her members wanted hardcore scenes and she didn't want to do hardcore content. Her site went under. I respect her for not doing hardcore because that is her decision to make.
C4s?
A ditto on this for me... and another voice that says Franklin is full of crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendy Summers
I polled the Members of my site a little while ago because of some server space issues about featuring hardcore (tends to be longer) or solo content. The response was OVERWHELMINGLY in favor of keeping HD quality on the solo videos and doing more of those rather than featuring more hardcore content.
I have built an entire site and entire career out of the 'amateur' look and feel and it remains competitive and popular.
EDIT: BEFORE YOU ASK: The poll was internal (for Members only) and the data wasn't saved. Take my word for it.
Not likely the reason. I follow all the amateur dough sites for promotional purposes, but better to cite a reason than nothing at all. There was little new content going out for her... Members probably dropped like flies because of the recycled scenes (many updates were simply different camera angles of the same scene).Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
Internal to my website - feel free to join Franklin so you can let me know what you want - I'd love to have you yell at me regularly LOL.
See... here's the thing with solo websites doing solo sets... too many models do the same boring shit over... and over... and over again. One key to a solo website is freshness... multi-girl websites achieve it with new faces, we need to do it with what we shoot and how we shoot it. As I understand it some of her issue was freshness of content.
C4S - Clips 4 Sale - it'a primarily fetish driven but ala carte is clearly the way Industry sales are headed.
Get the fuck out of here - YOU are so full of shit. There are dozens of successful solo model sites, you idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
I don't need to bitch at you. Grooby is certainly not cheap and video quality, might be below some of the higher end mainstream sites but certainly not below average.
Yasmin decided to work solely for Kink and Kelly Shore last shot for us. Our models are fantastic, practically ever single TS model working today, has featured on one of our sites you imbecile.
If Grooby sites are so bad quality - then why are they still the most successful sites and still growing. It's because they're simply, the best at what they do. Why do we do non-hardcore model sites - because so many people WANT that. Why do we do hardcore model sites - because also people WANT that.
If the sites are so bad, how come you've spent $100's on them this year alone?
You just delete franklin's post?!
What a fucking joke...
Yeah I deleted it - total slander, calling girls out.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveboof
I'm happy to give a forum to answer any questions and feedback but not just going to allow my company or my models to be attacked by his bi-polarism. Just a few weeks ago he was pm'ing me thanking me for reshooting a model.
He's been completely wrong on almost every assertation he's made regarding the industry and refuses to listen to people who have the cold stats and facts. If he wants to ask specific questions - or make a point, he can start a new thread on it and I'll answer it there, when I have the time. If you have a problem with that, you can fuck off also. If you have a problem with that, you can fuck off also.
It's a complete derailment of what this post was about.
Seanchai was right - that was a little insultingQuote:
Originally Posted by loveboof
I didnt say that those sites set the standards I said they should. Again their formula works- one solo, one behind the scenes and one hardcore per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
As for the quality of video I like Ts Playground above all. I think that that site is overall the best looking. What I was saying in reference to those two ladyboy sites was the fact that the video quality was good enough to be enjoyable by todays HD standards.
I wasnt complaining about the price either. What I was actually saying was that because of what those sites offer and because of the quality of their product, they have a fan base that allows for them to charge high without offering very many (if any) discounts. I got Shemale.xxx for 20.00 a couple weeks ago and if I didnt see that price I probably wouldnt be a member now.
The forbidden love film was good but with so much sub-par product out there its not hard to see why they may have written off the genre completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendy Summers
Porn has a specific function. Porn is supposed to titillate, its supposed to excite, its supposed to give a second hand view inside certain worlds/lifesyles etc. Strait porn, for the most part, does just that. Ts porn, however, only seems to annoy and tease.
I've only seen the trailer for Transromantic but it seemed very well produced from the video quality to the action itself. If more scenes were done like this, quality and quantity, then I think that the genre would be hard to deny.
Haha! Thanks for proofing my point. All of your producers and directors were the same. I am disappointed in you. I thought you were somewhat different than Tomcat. You're just like him. You demand people to like your content. If they don't then you're upset. You don't ask people how to make your content better. Instead you cry and demand everyone to like your content. How sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
I don't have to think your that most models are good quality. I do not have think that your sites have good video quality. I never slander anyone. I said your sites' model and video quality are bad. I also pointed out how you were so wrong about Yasmin Lee only working for Kink.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to say you were complaining. I was saying you can find discounts for just about every site if you look in the right places. :wiggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by mac.B
I do agree that TS Playground has very nice quality. I just hope they start shooting Americans again.
Hmm my Solo DVD sales (T-Girls Solo Series) has been amazing. In fact I was just asked to bump a hardcore release to put out a #4 because of buyers asking for a new one.
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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams
What do you consider to be amazing?
Look here!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
I did not thank you for reshooting a model. I said two of your scenes were good. However, that doesn't mean I think the rest are good. Any bad site can have a few good scenes. That does not make the reminding scenes great.
What the fuck is wrong with your porn producers and directors? How is finding models unattractive attacking them? This is porn. Porn is made to sexually excite people. Everyone has different tastes. Models should EXPECT to be criticized. They're in a business that focuses on sexual appeal aka LOOKS. If I find Kimber James and Sarina Valentina better looking than most of your models then that is my right. That is not a personal attack to anyone.
I did not personally attack you in my posts. I criticized your site.
You say don't want anyone criticizing your sites. Well guess what? People are always criticizing your work. Everyone's porno work gets praised and criticized. You need to grow up!
Boo hoo hoo! I feel so insulted. Someone thinks most of my models are not attractive like Mia Iseballa, Kimber James, and Vanitty. I am so insulted! He must find my girls attractive! He must think my videos have great quality! People aren't allowed to think differently than me! They must like me and my sites!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendy Summers
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Originally Posted by mac.B
Im not going to share my sales number for my Production Company LOL however my out the door numbers and reorders have been the same if not higher for my solo DVD's then a few of the TS hardcore releases by me and other TS Directors under my distribution.
I think it is too hard to compare solo and hardcore sales based on many reasons. The most important reasons are what I am going to focus on. A lot of people like Bailey Jay but she doesn't do normal hardcore content. So people's best option is to see her in a solo video.Quote:
Originally Posted by WendyWilliams
Who were in the solo videos and who were in the hardcore videos? If the most popular girls are in the solo videos than it stand to reason why those videos sold better. If the hardcore videos had poor quality models or less popular models then they may sell less.
Who does the numbers/stats for your sites? A true researcher would require the same models to be in the solo dvd and in the hardcore dvd for a proper comparison.
Franklin I own a DVD PRODUCTION COMPANY, I am speaking of DVD sales not my website sales.
Number/Stats are my SALES , how many stores order, how many reorders, how much VOD sales, how many out the door etc. Ive done this 11 years and had my DVD company for 8, I assure you I know what Im speaking about when it comes to SALES as I get the numbers monthly from my distributor.
I don't mind criticism and I'll answer it a point at a time ... but what's the point, you absolutely refuse to believe that you can possibly be incorrect in anything you say about porn. I have the facts and the numbers. Why is a site that is mainly solo (Shemale Yum) more successful than other hardcore sites featuring the same models.
YOU are WRONG!!
I was just bout to say that. Another good example is Keira Verga. How many people want to see her do hardcore but settle for joining her site just to see her walk around in a neglige.
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Originally Posted by seanchai
Brand loyalty, familiarity perhaps. Regular coka-cola will always sell more than its subsidiaries.
Not to be combative but I think I know why that is...
You're not understanding what I am saying at all. A stats researcher would not accept your information. As I said properly done research requires that the same girls in the solo dvd must also be in the hardcore dvd to compare them.Quote:
Originally Posted by WendyWilliams
If you release a solo DVD featuring Kimber James, Bailey Jay, and Sarina Valentina then you should expect better sales than a hardcore DVD featuring less popular models. You can't compare the two. Your data is invalid.
That is just basic research.
You're not open to criticism. I said your site Shemale Yum has very bad quality models. You lied and said that I slandered them. You also stated that you do not want your company to be criticized.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
You say solo scenes are more popular and are downloaded much more. Well duh! There is so much solo content that its going to be downloaded much more. You thousands of solo scenes compared to a few hardcore scenes. For example You can't compare 1,000 solo scenes' downloads to 100 hardcore scene's downloads(not going for exact numbers). That's terrible data and research. This is learned at an undergraduate level.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Porn producers also say that straight men buy TS porn. Something is wrong with this data. Straight men do not watch straight solo porn. They watch hardcore porn. Hardcore porn is in high demand among straight men. That's why there are very few to none straight solo sites. It doesn't sell well.
Like arguing with the town drunk LOL
I think common sense says that a top tgirl model in a hardcore vid will sell more than the same girl in a solo jack vid.
You guys are so correct, what does Seanchai or I know about Dvd sales or websites.
Back to subject at hand.
Good lord you're a sanctimonious prick. If I wasn't out shooting a scene for my site at the moment and having to type this on my Surface, I'd shred your supposed logic and reduce you to a bumbling fool...oh wait, you've already done that last part.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
Since I am not at my desktop with a proper keyboard, I'll just sum this up with three words: Dita Von Teese.
You don't know anything about basic research. What you have said is so wrong that it is not funny. Go to a college and tell them that you're comparing two different people in two different types of porn. One in solo and another person in a hardcore. They would tell you that your data does not prove that solo scenes sell better than hardcore scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by WendyWilliams
Has anybody from your production company went to college and taken both Statistics and Methods of Research courses?
Back to the original reason for the thread. I think you girls will never truly get taken serious because you don't have anyone at the top seriously advocating for you and your genre. Directors, CEO's, producers, "the suits" will only hear and listen to their peers..people on the same level as they are. I think they see your "reps" as a joke.
Most things get done while "smoozin"...and at extracurricular activities during industry events..etc. It's apparent that the couple of people you rely on to help get your issues addressed and your voices heard are much too busy policing comments on the forums and arguing with members who express opposing views about their websites...everyday..practically every thread.
I know it's hard to swallow ladies (no pun intended)..but think about it...who are the ones that are really getting pimped? It sure aint the one saying "everything is fine".."sales are up".."all my sites are doing well"...
Meanwhile..You are still escorting..WHY?..because the rent still has to get paid
Just stop with your REALLY annoying smugness about how "educated" you are. If you really want me to, I'll go through most any thread you've posted in and point out every grammatical error, word mis-usage, spelling mistake, and of course, GAPS IN LOGIC.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
Consider just this Mr. Census:
You do the exact same thing that you accuse Wendy of doing, a point which I already made when we first tangled. It could be argued that when you compare a site like, say, TS Seduction and a site like, say, Shemale Yum; you're data is invalid. The sites are branded differently, use different stars, are marketed differently... in fact, just about everything about them is different!
OK, with long fingernails and a tablet keyboard that only took me fifteen minutes to type ��
I'm just going to say this. You're very stupid. I'm not doing the same thing that Wendy did. I compared two companies' video quality. The samples are videos. Video quality and harcore/solo scenes are two different things. You can't compare them in the same manner. Wendy is improperly comparing solo dvds and hardcore dvds. Her sample has a major flaw. Neither dvd contains the same people. A correct sample must have the same girls in the solo dvd and in the hardcore dvd.Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy
Please go to college. You're stupid.
Oh dear, you're back. I assume you are talking about myself? FYI - I'm the only non-TS producer/company owner who has any say at that level. The only one invited on panels, the only one asked for advice on the TS genre and the only one who knows anybody relevant in mainstream.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsdvdman
Why is that?
It's because I also the only one who advocates having open forums for discussion of TS porn in general, their own product, transgender lifestyle/politics and their websites. Don't try and twist your own personal prejudices against me to anything other than exactly what they are.
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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
You're WRONG. Listen to the producers. Solo sets in websites do sell. I have the stats on sites containing the same models in both hardcore and solo. Hardcore sells also but don't be such a self-obsessed ass, to think that what you say has any basis in fact, other than your own personal preferences and opinion.
Really great view of the girls you have there.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsdvdman
I understand what you're saying though and would partially agree...a very, very tiny part. The bigger problem is guys (such as yourself I'd assume based on previous conversations) who think that all girls in porn are stupid fluffs who deserve what they get. You're a consumer (assuming) but unwilling to actually take a stand when it comes to any type of topic with some actual seriousness to it. If all the guys who actually consumed TS porn were to write letters to companies such as those mentioned here, instead of the girls having to do it themselves, these issues would easily be things of the past. So, let's get down to what is really 'hard to swallow'... most consumers of TS porn are too wrapped up in their own insecurities, and too busy hiding in the shadows to do any of the girls any good.
I won't listen to producers until they properly compare the data. There are far too many issues with your samples and how you are comparing the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Interesting.............why haven't SMC's owner and Shemale Stroker's own been invited to these panels? They've been a while for a long time as well and have success.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Franklin this is the last time I respond to you as Im blocking you so I don't feel obligated to respond. I have a BA degree in Marketing/Communications and worked for the IRS for 4 years before transitioning so I am far from stupid.
I simply said that my solo DVD series SALES, nothing less and nothing more.
I'm very well educated, thank you very much. Unlike you, I don't have to prove it by putting other people down.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
The stupidity lies in the fact that you cannot take a simple line of reasoning and apply it to yourself. THAT is true stupidity.
Wendy's point is NOT flawed for the very (I thought) simple reason that she is speaking of RAW sales numbers...something which seems to have floated right over that thick head of yours. It was not a statement of 'better', it was empirical data that she has firsthand knowledge of.... where is your firsthand knowledge? You're taking her statements and attacking her data based upon a flawed argument from the start since you obviously didn't understand her original point. Probably couldn't see past that diploma hanging in your way.