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hangman
Let's hope for every American's sake that each member of the jury is more fair-minded than you are.
Was the DA correct to charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree manslaughter?
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hangman
You clearly are inclined to "realize" that Zimmerman instigated the whole thing but you don't KNOW it. You have no idea whether Zimmerman abandoned his pursuit of Trayvon. You have no idea who spoke to whom first. You have no idea who made the first aggressive move. You have no idea who initiated the physical altercation. You have no knowledge of any of this. Let's hope for every American's sake that each member of the jury is more fair-minded than you are.
Well police video had been proven he saw trayvon randomly after coming out or from a candy store..
It's not like there was any just cause, And there certainly were other ways to handle it, even the cops tried to reason with Zimmerman but he did not comply...
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buttslinger
Was the DA correct to charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree manslaughter?
I have no idea. We'll find out at trial.
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EvonRose
It's not like there was any just cause, And there certainly were other ways to handle it, even the cops tried to reason with Zimmerman but he did not comply...
How do you know that he didn't have just cause to shoot Trayvon? Maybe he reasonably feared for his life. Hopefully that question will be answered at trial.
As far as other ways to handle "it", I don't know what you mean. The cops didn't try to reason with Zimmerman. The 911 operator told Zimmerman that he didn't need to follow Trayvon. Neither you nor I have any knowledge of whether Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon or not. And, even if he did follow Trayvon you have no knowledge as to who initiated the confrontation. You have no knowledge of anything. Zimmerman may be guilty, but neither you nor I know the truth at this point. But continuing to say that he is guilty without knowledge is not very smart.
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hangman
How do you know that he didn't have just cause to shoot Trayvon? Maybe he reasonably feared for his life. Hopefully that question will be answered at trial.
As far as other ways to handle "it", I don't know what you mean. The cops didn't try to reason with Zimmerman. The 911 operator told Zimmerman that he didn't need to follow Trayvon. Neither you nor I have any knowledge of whether Zimmerman continued to follow Trayvon or not. And, even if he did follow Trayvon you have no knowledge as to who initiated the confrontation. You have no knowledge of anything. Zimmerman may be guilty, but neither you nor I know the truth at this point. But continuing to say that he is guilty without knowledge is not very smart.
Oh yeah i do know he did fear for his life.... Because he is crazy, he suffered from post traumatic.... So I do believe he created this scenario...
We will see if he's prosecuted due to evidence then I'm right, if he isn't then I will give him the benefit of the doubt..
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hangman
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You approach me on the street with your self-appointed gestapo shit and watch what happens. You'll be on the ground crying, just like your boy, Zimmerman.
Would you still do it if you knew that he might have a gun?
Yes. Even more likely & quicker. As far as I'm concerned, this guy's a mugger. Show me any reason to think otherwise. By his pursuit, he's already shown that he's coming for me. We're beyond making nice. If I think he has a gun, or especially if he brandishes one, then there's really no other way out for me except to incapacitate him. He's falling backwards? Well gee, I think I'll come down as hard as possible with all my weight on one knee in the middle of his sternum (if not his neck) & see what breaks. Then after sticking my thumbs in both his eyes, I might quietly retreat. Maybe not. I might have to wait & systematically break all his fingers. On & on, until I'm satisfied that he can't shoot me. There's no animosity on my part. It's just survival. I owe my assailant no quarter, no sympathy, & no mercy as long as the threat exists.
Is there any possible way that Martin could have perceived Zimmerman as anything other than a threat?
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EvonRose
Oh yeah i do know he did fear for his life.... Because he is crazy, he suffered from post traumatic.... So I do believe he created this scenario...
We will see if he's prosecuted due to evidence then I'm right, if he isn't then I will give him the benefit of the doubt..
Alright, enough about this. Evon, how about posting some new photos?
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hangman
Alright, enough about this. Evon, how about posting some new photos?
No I don't like my pics up, I'm shy,,,
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All the people who are so certain that they "know" Zimmerman is guilty should go back and read the early press coverage on the Duke Lacrosse hoax. Again and again the press "reported" things "proving" their guilt, things that later on turned out to be complete fabrications. Why, 'cause the press love to jump to conclusions, so stop assuming that you know what happened, because none of us really know.
Given that NBC has already fired a producer for doctoring a tape to make Zimmerman look bad, why wouldn't you think some humility would help.
FYI, all the talk about "Stand your ground" laws is moot, he's not defending himself on that law.
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EvonRose
No I don't like my pics up, I'm shy,,,
Shy, smart and absolutely gorgeous.
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there is a bounty on his head
there is a bounty on his head
he will get a tooth brush in his neck
snitches get stitches and live with the bitches
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natina
there is a bounty on his head
he will get a tooth brush in his neck
snitches get stitches and live with the bitches
Sad commentary, but Oh, so true.
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HATE IT BUT RECITE,ITS a G THANG!
Guerilla Black feat Beenie Man - Compton - YouTube
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yourdaddy
Sad commentary, but Oh, so true.
HATE IT BUT RECITE,ITS a G THANG!
HATE IT BUT RECITE,ITS a G THANG!
HATE IT BUT RECITE,ITS a G THANG!
HATE IT BUT RECITE,ITS a G THANG!
HATE IT BUT RECITE,ITS a G THANG!
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
hangman
You clearly are inclined to "realize" that Zimmerman instigated the whole thing but you don't KNOW it. You have no idea whether Zimmerman abandoned his pursuit of Trayvon. You have no idea who spoke to whom first. You have no idea who made the first aggressive move. You have no idea who initiated the physical altercation. You have no knowledge of any of this. Let's hope for every American's sake that each member of the jury is more fair-minded than you are.
so you dont think stalking someone and confronting them with a firearm is aggressive?!?
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As predicted, the specific charge is
Criminally Negligent Homicide
(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.
What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.
Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:
-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator
-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program
-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement
Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.
He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.
In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,
or the firing of the gun.
Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.
If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...
then he's guilty under the law.
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
We all thought Casey Anthony was guilty too. I never thought for a minute that O.J. was innocent.
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seanchai
You're an ass.
I turned up home with ear pierced, bleach-tipped hair, pink shirt and skin tight jeans which didn't go down too well either, when I was 15.
If I am an Ass, you sir are a Fool. I think my point remains that if you are a seventeen year-old with gold teeth and a couple of tattoos then proper supervision by the parents is not being employed.
I think your own experience underscores my point. It appears from your self descibed dress at 15 that you did not enjoy an ideal upbringing, and have thus ended up as an internet pornographer.
I am fully aware that I am in a way (by being a visitor to this site) throwing rocks at glass houses (but I guess my upbrining was far from ideal as well). My point is that if we had better upbrinings perhaps one of us would not be making TS porn and the other of us would not be viewing it. I'm sure we both could find more noble ways to spend our time, but we choose not to.
My point with Treyvon was not that he should have been killed for dressing like a thug, but that if you allow your kid to dress and act like a thug then bad things can happen. If any child of mine showed up acting all ghetto, then the very next day I'd be dropping him or her off at a Military boarding school. I don't think we do our kids any favors letting them act like hooligans.
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gccTelnet
All the people who are so certain that they "know" Zimmerman is guilty should go back and read the early press coverage on the Duke Lacrosse hoax. Again and again the press "reported" things "proving" their guilt, things that later on turned out to be complete fabrications. Why, 'cause the press love to jump to conclusions, so stop assuming that you know what happened, because none of us really know.
Given that NBC has already fired a producer for doctoring a tape to make Zimmerman look bad, why wouldn't you think some humility would help.
FYI, all the talk about "Stand your ground" laws is moot, he's not defending himself on that law.
Zimmerman and his attorney are going to file their first appeal to a judge according to Florida law exclusively on SYG. If he presents a preponderance of evidence to prove he acted under SYG in self-defense, ALL charges could be dropped without a trial.
THe special prosecutor is smart. It's unlikely they convict Zimmerman on 2nd degree murder because of the defendant, the victim involved and the jury bias in Florida,(White men are RARELY ever convicted in murder cases in South Florida for the death of a Black victim:(), however a lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter is almost a lock.
Fat boy is going to be spending much time with the homies in lockup.
Suspicious Black males, 24/7, looking for love.:fuckin:
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that is not a pic of trayvon asshole
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For all those giving Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt and who are railing against the lack of media integrity covering this case, would you REALLY be so fair minded if a BLACK self-appointed community watch captain approached a 'suspicious' looking unarmed White teen and gunned him down in self-defense???
Really??lol
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SunshyneMonroe
Im sorrry but if a 6 foot something blk man starts hitting me and I have a gun...id do the same
damn ur so beautiful and stupid at the same time ps i love u....:salad:hide-1:
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ITS a style and not gang attire.
gang attire is khaki pants and tee shirts mostly.
it's low income clothing.
if travon martin was in a GANG ,WHAT GANG IS HE IN?
travon was never in a gang, thats just the fox news and people PARROTING FOX NEWS AND THERE COMMENTATORS
BIGOTS SAY TRAYVON MARTIN WAS IN A GANG!
i DO NOT TO KNOW TO MANY GANG MEMBER THAT EAT SKITTLES AND ICE TEA WHILE TALKING TO THE GIRL FRIEND IN THE RAIN WITH PLANS FOR COLLEGE. "GOING TO COLLEGE,THATS WHITE PEOPLE STUFF,THATS BITCH SHIT WHEN YOU CAN BE A HUSTLER AND SELL SOME COCAINE AND OR BE A BALLER. GOING TO COLLEGE IS SELLING OUT".
MOST WHITE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD FROM A REAL GANG BANGER IN THERE LIFE.
YOU WOULD BE MARKED IF YOU DID.
Florida jails or tuff.
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seanchai
You're an ass.
I turned up home with ear pierced, bleach-tipped hair, pink shirt and skin tight jeans which didn't go down too well either, when I was 15.
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Does anybody else find it odd that it took all this time to arrest him. local Police and prosecutor couldn't press charges, Grand jury washed thier hands. So a "Special" prosecutor "happens" to find the evidence to proceed?
just now on the news they said they are going to look at this to see if it was a race crime, how the fuck could it be a race crime when on the 911 tape he didn't even know what color the kid was when they asked?
Another thing that i'm curious about, how is zimmerman going to get a fair trial after the president got involved?
and last but not least ALL we know is what the media shoves down our throats to drum up ratings
just a few pictures ive found:
http://i.imgur.com/MWMwR.jpg?1
http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/up...tin-before.jpg
http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/up...von-martin.jpg
http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/up...ll-news-32.jpg
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giovanni_hotel
For all those giving Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt and who are railing against the lack of media integrity covering this case, would you REALLY be so fair minded if a BLACK self-appointed community watch captain approached a 'suspicious' looking unarmed White teen and gunned him down in self-defense???
Really??lol
Did you seriously just type this?
Race should have zero to do with this. It was 2 guys who got into a situation PERIOD
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Re: As predicted, the specific charge is
Criminally Negligent Homicide
(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.
What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.
Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:
-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator
-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program
-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement
Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.
He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.
In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,
or the firing of the gun.
Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.
If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...
then he's guilty under the law.
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Omg he is a kid! He goes trough his phase of gangster style... People here act like they never tried to get into a hip fashion fad when younger... The gold teeth, and finger signs are all hip hop... It does not mean he's a criminal...
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mildcigar_2001
"I have seen many times in the movies, where a person injured themselves, in an attemp to justify a self defense claim."
You have to be kidding.
I realize that this is mainly a TS porn related forum, but please don't base your arguments on the movies. A young boy is dead, and most of us are trying to get a sense of what happened by the available evidence. This is a serious matter and there may be race riots and more people killed because of this incident. The New Black Panther Party is advocating killing Zimmerman and other "crackers." This is the time Obama ought to speak up and tell the black community to allow the justice system to work. Race riots will only doom Obama's reelection chances. Obama needs to be the President who represents all Americans, not just Americans that look like him.
As I think can be seen from my previous posts that I think that is someone physically assaults you then you have the right to defend yourself. Contrary to the opinion of some on this board, the 1st Amendment allows one to question those who are act in a furtive manner (they don't have to respond to you, but neither do they have the right to punch you).
that is exactly what obama said we need to investigate when did u hear him scream kill whitey or even go blackie uhhm never . it's been fun listening to you morons but justice was done he is locked up all we ever wanted the trial is up in the air and the jury will decide.
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
****travon is only 160 lbs while zimmerman was a 250 lb man.
*****travon has a boyish voice while zimmerman has the voice of a man
everyone knows who was scream for help on that 911 audio tape
it does not take 2 audio tape voice experts
its common sense
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Originally Posted by
natina
Criminally Negligent Homicide
(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.
What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.
Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:
-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator
-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program
-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement
Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.
He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.
In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,
or the firing of the gun.
Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.
If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...
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Originally Posted by
natina
****travon is only 160 lbs while zimmerman was a 250 lb man.
*****travon has a boyish voice while zimmerman has the voice of a man
he was 6'2" and a foot ball player, in way better shape than the accused
trayvon's father said on TV it was not his son screaming? who am i to believe you, the media or the kids father????
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Wow natina totally just sums up a lot.... Zimmerman had criminal past, he was mentally ill? He had a gun? people are so bad at putting the puzzle together...
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George Zimmerman's VIOLENT HISTORY
special treatment cause his dad is a retired judge
http://colorlines.com/assets_c/2012/...xauto-5674.jpg
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Originally Posted by
natina
Criminally Negligent Homicide
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Originally Posted by
natina
(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.
What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.
Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:
-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator
-- despite the proper protocals for any neighborhood watch program
-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement
Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.
He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.
In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,
or the firing of the gun.
Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.
If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...
then he's guilty under the law.
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Originally Posted by
natina
ITS a style and not gang attire.
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Originally Posted by
natina
gang attire is khaki pants and tee shirts mostly.
it's low income clothing.
if travon martin was in a GANG ,WHAT GANG IS HE IN?
travon was never in a gang, thats just the fox news and people PARROTING FOX NEWS AND THERE COMMENTATORS
BIGOTS SAY TRAYVON MARTIN WAS IN A GANG!
i DO NOT TO KNOW TO MANY GANG MEMBER THAT EAT SKITTLES AND ICE TEA WHILE TALKING TO THE GIRL FRIEND IN THE RAIN WITH PLANS FOR COLLEGE. "GOING TO COLLEGE,THATS WHITE PEOPLE STUFF,THATS BITCH SHIT WHEN YOU CAN BE A HUSTLER AND SELL SOME COCAINE AND OR BE A BALLER. GOING TO COLLEGE IS SELLING OUT".
MOST WHITE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD FROM A REAL GANG BANGER IN THERE LIFE.
YOU WOULD BE MARKED IF YOU DID.
Florida jails or tuff.
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Originally Posted by
natina
****travon is only 160 lbs while zimmerman was a 250 lb man.
*****travon has a boyish voice while zimmerman has the voice of a man
everyone knows who was scream for help on that 911 audio tape
it does not take 2 audio tape voice experts
its common sense
http://colorlines.com/assets_c/2012/...xauto-5674.jpg
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natina
****travon is only 160 lbs while zimmerman was a 250 lb man.
*****travon has a boyish voice while zimmerman has the voice of a man
you ignoring me?
he was 6'2" and a foot ball player, in way better shape than the accused
trayvon's father said on TV it was not his son screaming? who am i to believe you, the media or the kids father????
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BELIEVE THE (2) VOICE EXPERTS AND THE WOMEN WITNESS
Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17.
He claims Trayvon Martin case 911 call: Screams not George Zimmerman's, 2 experts say
The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.
"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.
The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.
"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.
The conclusions of Owen and another audio expert were first reported by the Orlando Sentinel on Saturday.
Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims the shooting was self-defense.
The 911 call, reposted in this YouTube clip, came on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.
In the recording of her phone call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.
Witness To Trayvon Shooting Speaks Out!
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EvonRose
Omg he is a kid! He goes trough his phase of gangster style... People here act like they never tried to get into a hip fashion fad when younger... The gold teeth, and finger signs are all hip hop... It does not mean he's a criminal...
His age has nothing to do with his culture It's more about where the person is raised and what his culture is. I'm black and I rejected the hip hop culture.
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NO PARAMEDICS NEEDED OR USED FOR ZIMMERMAN
Video raises doubts about gunman’s story in Trayvon Martin case; defense says it’s too grainy
MIAMI — Newly released police video of a handcuffed George Zimmerman may be important for what it doesn’t show: No obvious cuts, scrapes, blood or bandages. No clearly broken nose. No plainly visible evidence of a life-and-death struggle with Trayvon Martin.
As the furor over race and self-defense raged on in Florida and around the U.S. on Thursday, Martin’s family and supporters seized on the footage to dispute Zimmerman’s claim that he shot and killed the unarmed black teenager after the young man attacked him.
While cautioning that the video is grainy and far from conclusive, some legal experts agreed it does raise questions about Zimmerman’s story. The video was made about a half-hour after the shooting Feb. 26.
“It could be very significant,” said Daniel Lurvey, a former Miami-Dade County homicide prosecutor. “If I were the prosecutor, it would certainly be Exhibit A that he did not suffer any major injury as a result of a confrontation with Trayvon Martin.”
Zimmerman attorney Craig Sonner said on NBC’s “Today” show that the footage appears to support his client’s story in some respects.
“It’s a very grainy video. ... However, if you watch, you’ll see one of the officers, as he’s walking in, looking at something on the back of his head,” Sonner said. “Clearly the report shows he was cleaned up before he was taken in the squad car.”
Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in the town of Sanford, told police he shot the 17-year-old Martin after the young man punched him in the nose, knocked him down and repeatedly slammed his head against a sidewalk.
The Sanford Police Department video begins at 7:52 p.m., about 35 minutes after the shooting, as Zimmerman arrives at the station. It shows Zimmerman’s head and face as he gets out of a police car. There is no sound on the video.
There is no obvious wound on his head or blood on his clothing, and there are no indications of a broken nose — which Zimmerman’s lawyer has insisted he suffered. He walks briskly, smoothly and unassisted.
“The explanation he is relying on is that there was a physical altercation,” said Kendall Coffey, former U.S. attorney in Miami. “The intensity of the physical conflict is critical to his self-defense claim.”
Benjamin Crump, an attorney for the Martin family, said the footage directly contradicts Zimmerman’s story: “There are no marks on his face. There is no blood on his face. It’s not like he’s dazed or he has been injured.”
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FRANKLIN
His age has nothing to do with his culture It's more about where the person is raised and what his culture is. I'm black and I rejected the hip hop culture.
hip hop culture is not the same as criminal or thug culture,thats a huge misconception...like everyone that likes metal has the potential to blow up schools or eat babies
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Bang! 'You got me!' Are they kidding? Trayvon's last words were 'You got me'?
Imagine. You're in a life or death struggle with someone you are desperately trying to kill with your bare hands. You have spent the last sixty seconds pummeling this person with your fists and bashing his head on the pavement. You notice he has a gun. You smile your evil, golden-toothed smile and say, "You are going to die tonight." The struggle continues, but this 250-lb. full grown, 28-year old man you have been grappling with for the last minute or so with your lanky, 17-year old, 160-lb. body, beating him with your fists, bashing his head over and over again, this intended murder victim you randomly chose to satisfy your mad, senseless, mindless, hatred of all White people, reaches into his holster, withdraws his 9mm and busts a cap in your chest. Right in the pump.
You look at the blood gushing from your chest wound, doing your best to keep any of it from splashing all over the person who just shot you. You make eye contact.
"You got me," you say, as you fall backwards. Dead.
The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.
"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.
The conclusions of Owen and another audio expert were first reported by the Orlando Sentinel on Saturday.
Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims the shooting was self-defense.
The 911 call, reposted in this YouTube clip, came on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.
In the recording of her phone call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
For all those giving Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt and who are railing against the lack of media integrity covering this case, would you REALLY be so fair minded if a BLACK self-appointed community watch captain approached a 'suspicious' looking unarmed White teen and gunned him down in self-defense???
Really??lol
I think there is recent video of that from Baltimore:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...beating-879234
