T he real comunity in the UK is Crossdressers/TRANSVESTITES .TRANSEXUALS COMUNITY?is not such a thing yet .
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T he real comunity in the UK is Crossdressers/TRANSVESTITES .TRANSEXUALS COMUNITY?is not such a thing yet .
I have loyalty to my community, bec there are good ppl out there. My best friend alisha is my sister. We love each other dearly and protect each other like blood sisters.
You cant group everyone based on individuals.
Nicole u hit it right on the head!!!
If we dont want a certain relastionship with chasers, that is our standard to uphold and no one else! Do as you please, but you cannot blame us for all the gay bashing and chaser name calling. Just because we refuse to give any regards to chasers.
I wonder if I might raise a question here. Serious question.
There is across the Hung Angels site lots of criticism of men who "chase" transexual girls. There is, especially, criticism of men who like to bottom. (And this comes especially from some guys who'd like to present themselves as alpha males.. ie the sort who are proud to say have never ever let a cock near them. They are in a category of their own. ) But is the level of contempt aimed at chasers really fair?
The girls who are here deserve - for the most part - great respect. I certainly accord them that. I think they have great courage.
But do they fully understand what motivates the chasers?. Perhaps the chasers are, in some respects, not entirely disimilar from them? Perhaps they too are born with a difference and some may not learn of this difference until later in their lives? When perhaps they are already committed to complex networks of relationships from which they can't or don't wish to walk away. I would categorise myself within this broad group. It was not until i was established as, in theory, a well settled and red-blooded heterosexual male that i had stirrings of interest in the "otherness' of transexual women.
Perhaps the difference between those "who are transgendered and those males who enjoy the company and sexuality of transgendered women is not as profound as the girls who find themselves women trapped in male bodies beleive?. These are girls/women who have the courage to embark on the challenging and difficult journey to proper womanhood. And yet the admirers or chasers who will never undertake that journey are - nevertheless - attracted to some of the same sexuality that some of the girls are. Don't many of the girls like to be treated as women by men (even if their bodies still bear traces of the gender they are working to abandon) and indeed don't some of the girls still derive sexual satisfaction from utilising their remaining male sexuality? The admirers are drawn - in some way - to the notion of male sexulity but they are not properly gay in that they find the male body in its normal manifestation unnattractive or even repellent.. They admire women. They/we are perhaps bisexuals. I think the hate directed at some admirers/chasers is a little harsh.
Aren't we all - in the end - strung out on a rather more complicated spectrum of sexuality with greater or lesser degrees of difference?
But maybe I'm wrong.
And our journey is not fnished yet Prospero ,we still have to deal with the real world with the people who judge so easy without knowing anything about you ,but they think is smart think to do.Another thing is botherd me is that we are comparred with the real women and i dont find it right either ....We are what we are end of story full stop.
I have nothing against bi guys, but I sure as hell would NEVER date one. lol
Transsexuals don't have a formal community like CDs and transvestites because we don't confuse our gender with a part-time hobby. It's not an escape or based on a kink. I can't relate to men dressing up like women for shits and giggles. Personally, I was more like Pete Burns I guess. I was just a fem queer, and later a drag queen, until I was F/T TS. But I never could relate to these hetero guys playing dress up. I think they fuck things up for transsexuals actually. Most transsexuals just want to become women, figure out how they're going to make a living, and then to be left the hell alone asap. Maybe some need the attention and validation that porn gives them, but I don't need that either. I don't give a shit. Let someone else have it. I tried porn to see if there was money or stability in it, and there is none. Or, not the kind of money or stability that impresses me. Does anyone think any of the biggest TS porn stars have retired on what they've made? lol Hardly. Everyone keeps sucking dick for coins unless they move on to bigger and better things. That's just the way it is.
One thing we forgot to mention in here that is a difference btw ts women and real women .why ...because we care more about our look ,about how to dress to impress the men ,in the other side real women think more ,what to provide for their kids,if the dinner is ready on time for her husband /bf ,if the house is clean normal stuff ,well are real women who dont give a pint about this ,but most of them do.
And is not so easy being a mum and wife everyday ,specially if there are 2 or 3 kids involved.
Chasers and admirers are very diffrent...
Although a chaser can be an admirer.
I find admirers are ver deep and try to understand every aspect of our situation, they are easy to date and have meaningful relastionships, they give outmost respect to a ts on any condition. Admirers dont necessarily like penis, but the feminine quality of what its attached to, admirers dont necessary have to like pre ops.
Chasers are sexually driven. Those guys send dick pics on your work number, stalk you. Liars, cheaters, sexually confused, etc. They like because you have a dick, chasers dont like post ops, they are the giys who discourage women from getting srs and once they do they leave. They want to only fuck u in private but no dating, no courting, its meaningles perversion.
I do think its fair for us to weed out chasers, because ts like me do not want to get caught up in this.
I'm very domestic and have great maternal instincts. To me, being a woman is not just one big kinky, sexy fuck fest. lol It's not that simple. I don't approach it like a man who's just a horny wolf. If I could have had children with a guy, I probably would have by now. But biology didn't put that possibility in the cards for me. But I would never want kids with a GG, and have to fuck one to do it. lol
Homnestly, this isnt meant negatively either but I think you are in a sub culture as defined by society as am I frankly. Those HIV rates that were posted from the CDC were mind blowing. Maybe if there was more of a community those who actually are making it could advocate for the many who are completely marginalized and treated as something disposal by the greater culture. the proof of that is again in those infection rates. Could you imagine the outcry for action if cis women had a infection rate like that? It really bothers me so many are getting sick just because society ignores or worse dehumanizes them. I know it might seem weird coming from a guy but to me that report points to criminal negligence by public health departments, and a condemnation of societal mores because till i looked I had no idea there was an issue because Snooki is news but that isn't. Indifference to the suffering of others is the worst kind of charactor flaw and it's societal in this case. from my pov it reflects a need for some community to pressure for change. if nothing changes nothing changes.
There are a lot of closed minded pontificators on this thread
Lmao now my husband is a prostitute
Nicole you are silly as ever
Anyone who has hung on this board or hung at a trans club or hung out with transsexuals in general know I'm right..
Trans sister hood? Are we talking about girls that hate on each others looks constantly? Backstab each other? Steal each other's men? And more - oh yea Evon what sisterhood. In this thread you have gone after my age and looks three or four times..
Sweetheart I was 21 once too - you will be 29 someday too..
So you showed exactly what I mean about transsexuals
Nicole as well - Nicole can't go a minute with out bullying or have a conversation/debate with out being on the attack. I like Nicole from speaking to her in chatrooms, but it is what it is.
Transsexuals for the most part are bullies and my opinion enablers of why they are treated so lowly by men
Thanks. I do now understand - by your generally agreed collective criteria - the difference between an admirer and a chaser. I hope and believe i fall into the first category.
I still don't think you've actually addressed my substantial point about the continuum of human identity and sexual identity.
I want like 10 kids!
What is chaser?a guy who wants to try every girl from here?{example} A guy who wants to die happy with the felleng that he shagged every girl he liked ...imao
Adriana - in a broader sense you've just defined a very large part of the male population
I actually want robertlouis to knock me up and have lots of babies with me. He seems very stable and kind and understanding... Total husband material and i do have a weakness for musicians.
Nicole on your comment about my back and forth on being in porn...
That was a long discussion by my husband and myself..
Firstly (not bragging) when you do porn it's for life no matter if you quit or not. Someone, somewhere would have seen you. Now when you do it on the scale that I have it follows you. Just the other day when I got my wisdom teeth removed my oral surgeon recognized me from my adult movies. If I go to straight clubs with my husband in Chicago I am recognized. So even when I wasn't doing adult movies men that have watched my porn still know me. That's why I always tell girls when they contact me about getting into porn. To really think about it before hand.
This time around I'm doing it on my own. I wont bring up the reason why, due to the drama it caused. I just feel more comfortable having more control of the situation. We are also opening up several sites other than my own. Our plan is not just to be in front of the camera. Which is doing very well. I have a toyline coming out. My husband worked out the deal. Which is a very good one. This time around I'm doing things right. I'm building an empire. I'm not focusing just on transsexual porn or myself. I'm focusing on straight porn.
My husband has taken on many adult clients and his business is growing for tax work and accounting to the adult industry. See my dear we have a plan it's not just about oh I'm gonna do a movie or two. Also our sexual life we like to do threesomes every few months, doing porn makes it a lot safer and it's fun to do together. My husband and I believe you can't sleep with the same person your entire life. However we don't believe in playing alone or working alone on movies. We are a team in all aspects of our life. Life is short and we are making money steadily in this business and it will only grow from here.
You just can't do movies to make money in this business... I have several paid appearances this summer for Sex Con and other outlets as well. My job is a business, and I have come to accept it. My husband after a long discussion came to that as well. I left my fans on my members site abruptly and many know why. But that is not important, my new site(s) will be more hardcore, more content, free webcam shows, and more...
I'm happy and I have no reason to put anyone down...
I'm just telling the truth about transsexual women..
I feel they (we) hinder ourselves with our attitudes
I understand what you're saying, Yosi. Perhaps that's true. But I don't see any guys gravitating towards the worlds of porn or escorting wanting me for my mind or my personality. lol I've never heard from a guy wanting to do anything but fuck me or to find out where he can get more photos or videos. I mean, sure. I can be friendly with you guys. I'm a pretty social person. But who's going to take it to a higher level for me? I'm not holding my breath. That's not my burden. I'm not looking here. I don't want pen pals or IM buddies. I don't want photos of a man's dick before I even hear his voice. I need REAL intimacy. So who's available? I live in the beautiful suburbs of Morris County, NJ. Who's going to make an honest woman out of Nicole Dupre? I actually dare any of you. But you guys never have the funds, never have conveniences built into your lifestyles, never have the time, never have the circumstances and, most importantly, never have the desire. Maybe I'm greedy, but I want it all. I want love, passion, romance, financial and intellectual comparability, etc. So I'll just take my chances right here. I'm not taking long shots on anonymous guys on a porn forum. I tell guys that I'm a TS around here, if I think they can handle it and it's worth exploring. Some are ok with it, some get embarrassed and say no. I don't care either way. The world is changing too quick to care. And some day I'll have a pussy, and it will be even less of an issue. And in the mean time, I can have all the NSA sex or even start seeing clients again all I like. :D
Kelly, didn't you just say that you and husband fuck other couples for coins? If not, then I misunderstood. But I'm just saying that I would not want my man to be fucking other men. What you do is your business, but I don't want a man that's in need of cock so bad that he will fuck another man. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest by saying that. I just know of no other transsexuals who are ok with their man fucking other men and showing his cock to other guys on cam. So, Kelly, your standards are a bit off imo.
And obviously, you made your departure from porn on your terms. I made mine on my terms. I don't have any respect for all those Chicago scumbags either, but they do know your t from their own up close and personal experiences. You lived with them. Personally, their whole seedy little scene makes me want to vomit. A big "eat shit and die" to the people who fucked me around in porn. I don't hang out with "transsexuals" like that. Those are CDs who got a brain storm to be shemale porn stars; not women imo.
NO I NEVER SAID THAT!
And you know I never said that - again Nicole there you go with your pot stirring
We do porn - we don't partake in escorting...
I know many girls okay with it..a lot of the girls I know date gay pornstars..so your claim kind of goes out the window...
I left porn due to the company I worked with, I don't want to go into details about it cause it just causes drama.
It had nothing to do with Chicago - I wont bad mouth anyone - I have plenty to say - and plenty of other girls will back me on it that lived in that home. But I don't really care about that part of my life.. I unlike many move forward and get over things. I don't harp on negativity..
It had nothing to do with anything else, but the company I worked for..plus I was ill..depressed..and just needed out
I am healthier now and now at a decent weight - it's why many think I've been pumped with silicone.
Why are you so OBSESSED with everyone/everything in Chicago? Every post you make is shade towards someone/something in Chicago. BITCH SHUT UP. Nobody cares about your old, ugly, rotten toothed, manly ass. You live with your fucking MOTHER in New Jersey you dirty bitch. All you do alllll day and night is talk shit on this forum, GET A LIFE!! Get a JOB!! I don't understand how you can bash people, who at least work, have their own places and make money?? You are the ULTIMATE in completely pathetic. I wish I still had the screenshots of those stalker creepy texts you sent me after you failed miserably in Chicago. Nicole, you're nothing but a big dragon with an ugly heart and a big mouth.
Ashley this is off topic it's about Streamate do you think your section is busier than mine?
A girl is complaining that your section is busier and wants me to move her over there..I think she is just being silly
I tried telling her it's cause she is new and guys haven't figured out she is there yet, but she doesn't want to listen..
I just don't want to bother Liz about it if I don't have to
I don't give a shit if you know girls who date gay porn stars. No offense. lol
And I just said "I might have misunderstood". But I still think dating a bi or gay man, for me at least, is not an option. But I don't care if you do it. Date and fuck whoever you want. Some of my best friends have been gay sex workers. I just don't fuck them.
And Isa has her version of what happened, and you have yours. Yours sounds sketchy imo. But I don't need to hear it again.
Now go do your cam show with your bisexual husband and I'll insult and avoid my cock-thirsty tranny chasers. Thanks loads. Buh bye. lol
Drop dead, Ashley. I live in a paid condo by myself. I wouldn't have turned with my mother in the next room, you dummy. You live in the ghetto, last I heard. So don't try it. I have a real job. Actually an awesome real job. I don't have to cry to everyone on Twitter that Mimi beat me up or that she stole my shoes, or that I have to suck dick for hundred bucks to afford my tits. Everyone knows how fake you are now, Ashley. Now go back to kissing Kelly's ass. That's all you're good for. Kissing the asses of people who you use.
Most of the smack I heard talked about Kelly was between Ashley and Jasmine, right in Jasmine's living room. So I don't see where you get off coming for me, Ashley. You told me Kelly shit and wiped her ass all over Jasmine's loft. No? Deny it? ;-) lol
lmao Thanks for being example of this thread Nicole of why transsexual woman are what they are..
You could be a poster child..
As far as I know Ashley lives on her own in a sky rise...and has a Mercedes
I don't think she is hurting for much??
*edit* I shouldn't of said as far as I know..I should of said I know for a fact...
You bring nothing to the table but negativity..
It really shows what you are like...
I'm not kissing anyones ass. I don't live in the ghetto I live in the Gold Coast, so check yourself. Mimi never beat me up or stole anything from me. She got a pair of shoes that she promised to gift to me and she joked that she wasn't going to, I was annoyed but she did the next day.. you interperated that as "we aren't friends anymore" and you went ballistic when you saw us tweeting each other. I never sucked dick for a hundred bucks, was 18 and a trick RAPED ME and only left 150$ of my donation. Theres nothing fake about me you old dragon, when I have something to say about someone I use their name! Unlike you who for TWO YEARS has been bashing Jasmine without using her name on here. You're a snake. You have a condo??? HAHAHA where Jersey City, Camden?? You're a sad ugly person who loves to hurt people and make things up... I never said anything about you until now because I'm fed up with your big mouth! NOBODY LIKES YOU!
Neither am I. ;-) lol
And an example of what? Someone who's not believing you? Your whole life story was discussed by Jasmine and Ashley quite a bit. I didn't ask them for details. They were going on and on about you, mostly Jasmine.
And I heard about what happened with you and Isa directly from Isa, not from Danielle. I talked to Isa on the phone for almost 2 hrs about all kinds of things.
Well good for you speaking to Isa..doesn't make it true..that's her story..I have mine...that's between her and I...
FYI if I hadn't of thrown the fit I did or left! I'd still be with SMC my site would still be up...
Isa didn't take down my website till i threw a fit on twitter..
I asked her by email to take it down......so I had to resort to twitter..
And I have documents that prove otherwise...
But really who cares that was 2009...
And it really shows how much of a drama queen you are and how much of a high school girl you are to go on and on about 2009 - it's 2012
I mean really Nicole you just sound sad...
:)
Camden? I live in a 400K condo in Morristown. Don't go by where you have to work when you visit NJ.
And I don't care who likes me. Ironically, you told me you "lived for my posts" a few months ago. But since you're so two-faced, I told you to fuck off then and I'm telling you to fuck off now. I've heard your stories about Mimi, which you then retracted in her presence. And I've seen your crocodile tears in person. So piss off, liar.