Feeling the impact of Brexit on TS Girls in London

[smooth007]

It seems to me already less and less Latin and European girls from Spain, Italy, Germany, France are touring or travelling to London after Brexit. In my opinion this has been the case for the last 2 years and its just got worse after Brexit.

Many of the ladies must feel they are not welcome in our shores and have decided not to bother coming here. I believe this will effect the punters as we wont have many choices, lot of the gorgeous girls will stay away, and we will end up with low class escorts.

I imagine once UK decides to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty it will be far worse. Girls wont be bothered to apply for visas etc. I hope this is not the case as I wish all the best girls choose UK over other European countries.

I would love it if girls like Kalena Rios, Bruna Butterfly, Yeidi Collins, Bianca Friere, etc choose to come to UK even after Brexit.

What does the future hold for TS escorts coming to the UK? Please share your views and opinions and lets hope TS scene in the UK is revived and we get the best girls.

[flabbybody]

With the post-BREXIT Sterling devaluation the girls will find they have a lot less when they exchange cash earnings to their home currency. It might make some of them skip London altogether.
And yes to your first point. The referendum result sent a clear message to potential visitors with less than pristine travel papers: You are NOT welcome here.

[cantona5]

Not many of the "well-known" girls visited these shores anyway - preferring the likes of Italy and Spain for their European base. Most that visited here were a little second rate (I know there are a few exceptions to this) and would likely struggle against some of the more "premium" offerings in the likes of Milan, Rome, Barcelona and Madrid. But if this assumption is correct based on our decision to leave the EU then I'll still take it.

[mrlogic]

I don't know so much about the tgirl scene but I think we already have the best and they mostly seem to be in Manchester...

The only bad experiences I've had to date have been with the Latinas.

As far as the cisgirl escort scene goes I think the huge influx of Romanians has brought the price of escorts down across the board and many of the East European girls are exceptionally beautiful and unspoiled both physically and in their attitude. One of my best experiences was with a Romanian girl (although she claimed to be Italian, but I have Romanian friends and I know what the language sounds like) however I am wary of many of the East and Central European escorts because of the preponderance of trafficking. I voted Remain but if I thought for one moment that this vile trade would be stopped then I'd be wholly in favour of leaving. I don't care what it does to the price. Unfortunately all I think closing the borders will do is make money for the criminals. :(

Anyway, something tells me this thread is a bit off topic and really belongs in the General Discussion part of the forum.

[Goodslave]

Brexit has not happened yet --------------- I hope it does very soon, I voted leave as did 17 million others.

[Goodslave]

I imagine once UK decides to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty it will be far worse. Girls wont be bothered to apply for visas etc. I hope this is not the case as I wish all the best girls choose UK over other European countries.

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Project fear.

After Brexit there will NOT be Visas to travel within Europe.

[legalman58]

It seems to me already less and less Latin and European girls from Spain, Italy, Germany, France are touring or travelling to London after Brexit. In my opinion this has been the case for the last 2 years and its just got worse after Brexit.

Many of the ladies must feel they are not welcome in our shores and have decided not to bother coming here. I believe this will effect the punters as we wont have many choices, lot of the gorgeous girls will stay away, and we will end up with low class escorts.

I imagine once UK decides to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty it will be far worse. Girls wont be bothered to apply for visas etc. I hope this is not the case as I wish all the best girls choose UK over other European countries.

I would love it if girls like Kalena Rios, Bruna Butterfly, Yeidi Collins, Bianca Friere, etc choose to come to UK even after Brexit.

What does the future hold for TS escorts coming to the UK? Please share your views and opinions and lets hope TS scene in the UK is revived and we get the best girls.

In my experience most T girls make it clear in their adverts if they are in favour of being in or out

So just read the advert and you should have no need to worry

[Toastie66]

You seem to forget that 2 years after article 50 has been issued that we still need to ask approval of the other European countries before we can actually leave, and I feel sorry for you that you got duped in voting to leave as the first thing that happened after the results was for the front runners for leave to leave themself

[Lauren_prado]

I'm glad we voted Leave, ;) I've been a hard working "Liberal" all my life but I had enough of Liberals blind spot to Islam and political correctness. I could write a book here on how men hating intellectually dishonest fat feminist who also hate escorts and transsexuals, have been trying to criminalize our work for decades, they couldn't do it so they finally manage to criminalize you boys from buying sex, that is having a devastating effect on the lives of the girls in Northen Europe, marginalizing them even further, similar law from the Scandinavian countries was passed now in France, and is in the European Union to pass for the rest of the members states, so if the UK had stayed in the EU, we escorts and you admires would be in terrible situation.

In feminist islamist Sweden a documentary was made, proving the vast majority of escorts are in this job because we want, when delivering the documentary with a hidden camera to a feminist Swedish politician, she mention that she didn't care about the truth, she didn't want her husband or other married men cheating with escorts, therefore the law. The documentary is out, on youtube.


Let's not forget the big elephant in the room, which the politically correct, regressive left-wing doesn't want to talk about, but it is affecting us all, uncontrolled Islamic immigration and the Islamization of western societies, meaning less right and freedoms for women, Jews, LGBT, animal rights, Christians, Atheists, Ex-muslims and so on...

Many videos on youtube showing muslims harassing and beating gays and Transsexuals in east London, Luton and Birmingham, especially Trans women who don't completely pass as a cisgender female.

Here is a picture of me, a British Brazilian immigrant who share the same values, pay tax, who is pro-immigrants who integrate and contribute to society, who is not trying to turn this country into a Islamic hell hole, going to vote with all my face painted and my Brazilian shirt, proud British. WE won! :tongue:

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[Minos]

With the post-BREXIT Sterling devaluation the girls will find they have a lot less when they exchange cash earnings to their home currency. It might make some of them skip London altogether.
And yes to your first point. The referendum result sent a clear message to potential visitors with less than pristine travel papers: You are NOT welcome here.

Unless Sterling starts to regain a lot of it's value, some of touring escorts may either have to increase their prices or give the UK a miss. I know some Europeans working in UK, who have kept their earnings/savings in GBP and now find their value to have fallen significally.

[smooth007]

I am very surprised that foreigners who I doubt pay any taxed got to vote on our referendum Lauren. As a proud Englishman I voted remain largely because leaving EU would bring a negative impact on our economy and not because of project fear. I sincerely hope I am proved wrong and we prosper economically as a country, and tax payers money is distributed fairly. I hope the money saved from EU is spent on the NHS, Policing, Education so everyone has a healthy, safe and bright future. For some reason I am sceptical but only time will tell.

[Lauren_prado]

Foreigners who don't pay any tax? Can't vote? I'm amazed by your assumptions on foreigners, I'm probably more British and have done more to this country than many, but I'm not surprised the left (remainers) have been proving over and over again how lovely they are not and divisive while calling the right "project fear".

You are wrong in every possible level, I hold a well deserved British passport, I can vote and pay tax.

Us Brexiters put our freedom, our country first before money, we knew the economy would be hurt in the short-medium term but money and greed did not speak more than our wish, to keep our country without Islamism, to keep our rule of law, our kindness and out secular British values, what a wonderful people.

Look at Sweden, where white guilt hatefull left-wing politicians went as far as saying they are happy white blond Swedes are disappearing, that if two persons apply for a job, the one named Muhammad should keep the job. Sweden is becoming a dangerous hell hole, is that what you want for us?

I'm glad we out, I'm glad we send a powerful message, despite all the armagedom fear mongering by big business and the dominating left wing media, because as Trans person, I do not wish to live in an Islamazed nation.

I believe the British is the most amazing people in this planet, our history is unmatched, our economy will pick up, and we will thrive like never before.

Lauren
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I am very surprised that foreigners whyo I doubt pay any taxed got to vote on our referendum Lauren. As a proud Englishman I voted remain largely because leaving EU would bring a negative impact on our economy and not because of project fear. I sincerely hope I am proved wrong and we prosper economically as a country, and tax payers money is distributed fairly. I hope the money saved from EU is spent on the NHS, Policing, Education so everyone has a healthy, safe and bright future. For some reason I am sceptical but only time will tell.

[Sing]

Foreigners who don't pay any tax? Can't vote? I'm amazed by your assumptions on foreigners, I'm probably more British and have done more to this country than many, but I'm not surprised the left (remainers) have been proving over and over again how lovely they are not and divisive while calling the right "project fear".

I'm booking Lauren just for her Brexit views! Which echo many peoples'. I see the scare mongering post remainers are still at it! I, like many people work in London. To be honest its just business as usual! End of.............

You are wrong in every possible level, I hold a well deserved British passport, I can vote and pay tax.

Us Brexiters put our freedom, our country first before money, we knew the economy would be hurt in the short-medium term but money and greed did not speak more than our wish, to keep our country without Islamism, to keep our rule of law, our kindness and out secular British values, what a wonderful people.

Look at Sweden, where white guilt hatefull left-wing politicians went as far as saying they are happy white blond Swedes are disappearing, that if two persons apply for a job, the one named Muhammad should keep the job. Sweden is becoming a dangerous hell hole, is that what you want for us?

I'm glad we out, I'm glad we send a powerful message, despite all the armagedom fear mongering by big business and the dominating left wing media, because as Trans person, I do not wish to live in an Islamazed nation.

I believe the British is the most amazing people in this planet, our history is unmatched, our economy will pick up, and we will thrive like never before.

Lauren
Xx

Well said Lauren. The post brexit remain camp still on the negative band wagon!

Like many others I work in London and its totally business as usual. No one is even talking about Brexit. Many French and other European nationalities in my firm and they dont care a jot.

Trade deals are happening on an international basis almost daily. At least 4 other EU countries want out and Germany is in total dissaray after Angela Merkel open the floodgates.

We are a tiny island on the global stage but we hold the 5th largest global economy and the largest financial centre in the world! The question is who wouldn't want to do business with us.

Short term pain........long term gain.

Oh, and I'm booking Lauren!

[MarkyB]

This is how Brexit could affect my enjoyment of said escorts:
IF we leave the EU, and remember we HAVE NOT yet and I don't see much evidence of it happening anytime soon, and IF following our (potential) leaving someone somewhere decides to introduce Import Duty into goods coming into the UK (which could happen) then my business is over as most of what I sell is imported and already has very slim profit margins, which would leave me out of a job and unable to enjoy visiting the TS escorts we love so much...

[Stavros]

[QUOTE=Lauren_prado;1713866]
I'm glad we voted Leave, :wink: I've been a hard working "Liberal" all my life but I had enough of Liberals blind spot to Islam and political correctness.

-'Political Correctness' has enabled you to live as a transgendered person with the same rights in the UK that I have, and indeed, a similar if not always identical menu of rights across the European Union. If you would prefer to return to the pre-EU days in London -even in the early 1970s- when someone born male could be arrested for dressing as a woman in public and charged with 'importuning' other men for sex or soliciting for the purposes of prostitution, then I suspect after a short while you would leave the country, and possibly concede that 'political correctness' is in fact better than the alternative -I for one am pleased to live in a country where it is now illegal for a hotel landlord to put a sign in their window that says 'No Coloureds'.

I could write a book here on how men hating intellectually dishonest fat feminist who also hate escorts and transsexuals, have been trying to criminalize our work for decades, they couldn't do it so they finally manage to criminalize you boys from buying sex, that is having a devastating effect on the lives of the girls in Northen Europe, marginalizing them even further, similar law from the Scandinavian countries was passed now in France, and is in the European Union to pass for the rest of the members states, so if the UK had stayed in the EU, we escorts and you admires would be in terrible situation.

--It is true that some feminists -and rather a lot of men in Sweden- have sponsored the laws that criminalize men who want to pay for sex, but it is not true that this has had a 'devastating effect' on 'working girls'. You also do not acknowledge that in addition to this brand of feminism, many of the legislators who have sponsored this legislation in Europe and the USA are not liberals but have done so from a Conservative Christian foundation of 'moral outrage', and that by contrast there are feminists who view sex work empowering women and offer a wholly different agenda. The assumption that the laws in Sweden have migrated to the UK and France because of EU membership is simply not true, this is not EU law but laws each country has considered introducing on their own. And, if you know how EU law works, you would know that every single member of the EU can veto a law it does not wish to introduce into its own jurisdiction.

In feminist islamist Sweden
-There is no such place. A few people can influence lawmakers, that is true, and has always been true, but even on present figures of around 5% the Muslim population of Sweden is not projected to reach 10% until 2030, if that. You may be terrified of Swedish Muslims, most Swedes are not. Many Muslims emigrated in the 1980s and 1990s from Iran and Iraq, and from Bosnia, indeed, one of the latter, the father of Zlatan Ibrahimovic has helped generate one of the most popular Swedes of the day. And as many then and now left the Middle East to get away from war and religious fanaticism, I wonder if the 'great fear' is in fact a typically phoney campaign mounted by Neo-Nazis and their fellow travellers who have an agenda of their own and who loathe 'political correctness' every but as you appear to but possibly for different reasons. Should the laws that outlaw discrimination against Black people in Brazil be repealed? They have been there since the 1950s but isn't this also 'political correctess'?

Let's not forget the big elephant in the room, which the politically correct, regressive left-wing doesn't want to talk about, but it is affecting us all, uncontrolled Islamic immigration and the Islamization of western societies, meaning less right and freedoms for women, Jews, LGBT, animal rights, Christians, Atheists, Ex-muslims and so on...

--There has never been uncontrolled immigration into the UK, and the UK has a noble tradition of offering sanctuary to oppressed groups of people dating back at least 1681 when Charles II offered sanctuary to French Protestants fleeing mass murder following the Edict of Nantes. It is also the case that whenever large groups of immigrants came to the UK they were accused of introducing disease, were the cause of a decline in law and order, were culturally too alien to be accommodate and so on. It happened to the Italians who migrated from Italy in the 1880s, the Jews who came here from the Russian Empire between the 1890s and the 1920s, the Kindertransport that brought Jewish children in peril from the Nazis to Britain in the 1930s, the Caribbeans, the Irish and the Hungarians who came here in the 1950s, the Bengalis who came here following the break-up of West and East Pakistan in 1971, and has continued to the present day.
It is a complete nonsense to claim that the UK has experienced 'uncontrolled Islamic immigration' because the Border authorities can -and do- refuse entry to anyone just as people who do enter the country can be expelled. It is also a complete nonsense to argue that Muslim immigrants threaten the rights of other groups of people, they are subject to the Law of England like everyone else and do not have privileges the rest of us do not.
This agenda of fear is the agenda of hate, it is the agenda manufactured by Nazis, Fascists and Nationalist extremists who in a second will put you on the boat back to Rio because as far as they are concerned you do not belong here. To such people it is irrelevant if Syrian refugees are Christian as well as Muslim, their only function is to fabricate fear. There is no doubt that the Leave campaign for some of its zealots was a campaign to 'make Britain white again', a campaign that at its heart believes that Hitler was right and that the British Empire fought on the wrong side in World War II. And just as these people want immigration reduced to zero, so they then want to move to 'phase two' which is the repatriation of Muslims, then the Blacks, and in time of course, the Jews.
We have seen and heard all of this before, and we have rejected it.

You did not win anything when the UK voted to leave the EU in July, you merely substituted one set of problems for another. What I find so deeply depressing is the ease with which people appeal to the worst of human nature to promote an agenda they probably do not understand and definitely do not control. That in a world where people believe killing others is an achievement, we cannot find the language and the feeling to respect each other and work as closely as possible to create spaces where life can be enjoyed in all its diversity, free of prejudice and false anxiety, willing to adapt and be creative, and look for practical solutions rather than create problems that cannot be solved because they are based on a lie.

[Lauren_prado]

Stavros which planet are you living on sweetheart? Come back to earth, get out of your left wing wonderland lunacy and wake up. The Anti prostitution laws have not devasted the life of escorts? Really? I have friends there and their lives are hell, with muslims robbing them all the time but they can't contact the police as they will know her address and pick one her good clients and jail him/fines.

Sweden 5% muslims? You know the city of malmo? Where Swedes are already a minority.

Everything you said is mix of left wing lies mixed with little truth to try to make it sound factual. That is why labour and left wing across Europe is dying, the more regressive lefties islamist apologists like you try to hide the truth with political correctness, the more we vote right as our last hope to stop Islam.

Trump is next and Le Pen after, sit back and watch.

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[buttslinger]

The "RULES" for living your life, and the "RULES" of Politics are quite different.
just like learning Physics, or showing up day after day at your shitty job is not really what life is supposed to be about.
When it comes to Physics, I kinda have to trust that Albert Einstein knows a lot more than me, and when it comes to Brexit, I have to kinda figure the smart people who know so much more than me might know what they're talking about.

Nobody gives a shit about England anymore, except as a tourist destination, so in that sense Brexit is a big win for everyone.

[Stavros]

Stavros which planet are you living on sweetheart? Come back to earth, get out of your left wing wonderland lunacy and wake up. The Anti prostitution laws have not devasted the life of escorts? Really? I have friends there and their lives are hell, with muslims robbing them all the time but they can't contact the police as they will know her address and pick one her good clients and jail him/fines.
Sweden 5% muslims? You know the city of malmo? Where Swedes are already a minority.
Everything you said is mix of left wing lies mixed with little truth to try to make it sound factual. That is why labour and left wing across Europe is dying, the more regressive lefties islamist apologists like you try to hide the truth with political correctness, the more we vote right as our last hope to stop Islam.

Trump is next and Le Pen after, sit back and watch.

Xx

I live here too, but unlike you I don't feel a need to panic because 80% of the population of Malmo are not Muslim which even my feeble ability in maths sounds like a majority. Cities adapt to immigration patterns, just as sex workers can adapt by changing the way they work. The laws on sex work and sex crimes in Sweden have been revised in recent years and have been as controversial there as in other countries, and it may be that in the future these laws will change, as laws do change over time when they do not work.

I don't live in a left-wing wonderland, but I do wonder what it is about political correctness that has so antagonised you, Donald Trump, and many others whose motives in seeking 'the end' of political correctness seem to me to be desperate attempts to change reality. It is even more bizarre because you yourself have benefited from political correctness, even if in Brazil the winner of the Globaleza contest to be Carnival Queen was then dismissed because she was 'too black'. If PC was so dominant, this would not have happened in Brazil, so maybe there is still a long way to go.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/video/2016/feb/09/brazilian-carnival-queen-too-black-nayara-justino-video

Does political correctness promote something in society that does not exist, or does it represent it?
If you are old enough to remember what life was like before 'political correctness' became a standard means of reflecting the diversity of the societies we live in, you would recognise tv programmes where all the news readers were white males, all of the presenters of children's programmes were white men and women and most if not all of the contestants on game shows white people. When the BBC decided that it should be more 'inclusive' it was not pretending that there are Black people in Britain and that their programmes should reflect that reality, it was and it is the reality.

People who detest PC attack programmes like the 'Great British Bake Off' because it has the token grandma, the token student, the token middle aged married men and women, the token Black or Asian and of course, the token queer, preferably one with a lisp and a wardrobe of floral shirts. Or maybe those contestants are in the programme because they baked their way into it.
But why is it wrong to produce tv programmes that look like the people they are being broadcast to? It was not 'merely' political correctness that determined a transgendered contestant 'must' be part of Big Brother, the show was a reflection of the reality of Britain and its diverse communities, among whom live many transgendered men and women.

The campaign being waged by Donald Trump and Marine le Pen is the denial of a reality so obvious that one wonders what it is that they want to change. The campaign against political correctness is a campaign against the reality that our societies are diverse in colour, creed and sexual orientation, but it is a measure of our maturity that we have gay people in entertainment, politics, sport and business -as we do women, Black, Asian 'ethnic minority', Muslims, Jews and the disabled -but not because the PC world insists that every segment of society have one of the above, but because the people concerned are good at what they do and merit their position as CEOs, Gold Medal Olympians, bakers and news readers.

Rather than embrace the politics of anger, a politics that tells us more about what it is against than what it is for, that singles out social groups, religions, the urban poor as the culprits of what we are told is a 'failed project' that means Baltimore and Birmingham are as bad as Baghdad and Aleppo (seriously, Donald?) -why not give people something to vote for, a positive vision of what a society can be if people from all backgrounds have the equal opportunity to work and take the advantages of education that should be offered to them? We have done it before, and it can be done again.

[Lauren_prado]

Third wave feminists, political correctness hiding massive Islamic slaughter in Europe, hiding the advance in sharia law, trying to erase European/westerners pride, history and culture. Create hate towards Israel and the West and everything white as if we had nothing good when we are a pinnacle of freedom. Leftist lunatics has hijacked the word Liberal, years left wing brainwashing and endless immigration trying to tip the vote balance to their side. Look how whites are treated in black majority countries, no equality, yet here we are all equal, yet here they complain.

The people are revolting, Europeans want their pride, culture and lives back, we do not want islamism or sharia law.

The people will speak, sit and watch.

[holzz]

This is how Brexit could affect my enjoyment of said escorts:
IF we leave the EU, and remember we HAVE NOT yet and I don't see much evidence of it happening anytime soon, and IF following our (potential) leaving someone somewhere decides to introduce Import Duty into goods coming into the UK (which could happen) then my business is over as most of what I sell is imported and already has very slim profit margins, which would leave me out of a job and unable to enjoy visiting the TS escorts we love so much...

only for EU citizens. wouldn't affect Russians, Turkish, Americans, Canadians, Australians, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Brazilians. I doubt most foreign escorts are mostly from France or Poland or any other EU country.

Even if they were, prostitution is not illegal here, and i don't think Mrs. May will outlaw it. She's supposedly a Christian, but then no reason it needs to be big on her agenda. no reason if a Brazilian girl, or an American girl, can come here and work, and a French or German or Bulgarian cannot post-Section 20.

[holzz]

The "RULES" for living your life, and the "RULES" of Politics are quite different.
just like learning Physics, or showing up day after day at your shitty job is not really what life is supposed to be about.
When it comes to Physics, I kinda have to trust that Albert Einstein knows a lot more than me, and when it comes to Brexit, I have to kinda figure the smart people who know so much more than me might know what they're talking about.

Nobody gives a shit about England anymore, except as a tourist destination, so in that sense Brexit is a big win for everyone.

expect being a global leader in many industries, oh, and better living standards than many of our (soon ex) EU buddies.... but then it's cool Germany would get Muslims out to fuck it up, we wouldn't as much.

[holzz]

It seems to me already less and less Latin and European girls from Spain, Italy, Germany, France are touring or travelling to London after Brexit. In my opinion this has been the case for the last 2 years and its just got worse after Brexit.

Many of the ladies must feel they are not welcome in our shores and have decided not to bother coming here. I believe this will effect the punters as we wont have many choices, lot of the gorgeous girls will stay away, and we will end up with low class escorts.

I imagine once UK decides to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty it will be far worse. Girls wont be bothered to apply for visas etc. I hope this is not the case as I wish all the best girls choose UK over other European countries.

I would love it if girls like Kalena Rios, Bruna Butterfly, Yeidi Collins, Bianca Friere, etc choose to come to UK even after Brexit.

What does the future hold for TS escorts coming to the UK? Please share your views and opinions and lets hope TS scene in the UK is revived and we get the best girls.

Depends. it may just mean a more expensive visa. there have always been plenty of Brazilians and stuff here, and money talks. London still would be a big city, and still worth coming there as much as Paris or Munich or Madrid or anywhere else in EU.

[holzz]

Project fear.

After Brexit there will NOT be Visas to travel within Europe.

haha...what makes you so sure of that? typical Leavers, arrogant, making comical and baseless presumptions.

[holzz]

I'm glad we voted Leave, ;) I've been a hard working "Liberal" all my life but I had enough of Liberals blind spot to Islam and political correctness. I could write a book here on how men hating intellectually dishonest fat feminist who also hate escorts and transsexuals, have been trying to criminalize our work for decades, they couldn't do it so they finally manage to criminalize you boys from buying sex, that is having a devastating effect on the lives of the girls in Northen Europe, marginalizing them even further, similar law from the Scandinavian countries was passed now in France, and is in the European Union to pass for the rest of the members states, so if the UK had stayed in the EU, we escorts and you admires would be in terrible situation.

In feminist islamist Sweden a documentary was made, proving the vast majority of escorts are in this job because we want, when delivering the documentary with a hidden camera to a feminist Swedish politician, she mention that she didn't care about the truth, she didn't want her husband or other married men cheating with escorts, therefore the law. The documentary is out, on youtube.


Let's not forget the big elephant in the room, which the politically correct, regressive left-wing doesn't want to talk about, but it is affecting us all, uncontrolled Islamic immigration and the Islamization of western societies, meaning less right and freedoms for women, Jews, LGBT, animal rights, Christians, Atheists, Ex-muslims and so on...

Many videos on youtube showing muslims harassing and beating gays and Transsexuals in east London, Luton and Birmingham, especially Trans women who don't completely pass as a cisgender female.

Here is a picture of me, a British Brazilian immigrant who share the same values, pay tax, who is pro-immigrants who integrate and contribute to society, who is not trying to turn this country into a Islamic hell hole, going to vote with all my face painted and my Brazilian shirt, proud British. WE won! :tongue:

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I agree....i'm not white, and it annoys me to see immigrants live in ghettos and not contribute.

[cantona5]

Trump is next and Le Pen after, sit back and watch.

Xx

I think you are correct...people are fed up with the current political systems and hopefully we will stop turning a blind eye to what is happening to our "civilised" countries and way of life.

[Stavros]

[QUOTE=Lauren_prado;1714120]

Third wave feminists
--Do you even know who they are? Are you really opposed to this:
The third wave was much more inclusive of women and girls of colour than the first or second waves had been. In reaction and opposition to stereotypical images of women as passive, weak, virginal, and faithful, or alternatively as domineering, demanding, slutty, and emasculating, the third wave redefined women and girls as assertive, powerful, and in control of their own sexuality. In popular culture this redefinition gave rise to icons of powerful women that included the singers Madonna (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Madonna-American-singer-and-actress), Queen Latifah (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Queen-Latifah), and Mary J. Blige (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mary-J-Blige), among others, and the women depicted in television series such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Buffy-the-Vampire-Slayer) (1997–2003), Sex and the City (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Sex-and-the-City) (1998–2004), and Girlfriends (2000–08).
https://www.britannica.com/topic/feminism/The-third-wave-of-feminism

political correctness hiding massive Islamic slaughter in Europe
--Political correctness cannot hide something that is not there. What is 'massive slaughter'? More people were murdered in the UK by the IRA and the Provisional IRA between 1969-1997 than Muslim extremists have killed so far; more people were murdered in Italy in the 'Years of Lead' in the 1970s and 1980s than have been killed by Muslims so far. You can mimic Donald Trump and Pamela Gellar and make as many inflammatory statements as you like, but would it not be more responsible and honest to tell the truth?

hiding the advance in sharia law
-What advance? Do you even know what Shari'a law is? The presence of judicial committees for Muslims in the UK that give advice on a range of issues is no greater and may be less influential among their communities than the Beth Din that exists for Orthodox or Observant Jews. If you want to stop the religious interpretation of say family law that some -some- Muslims use, would you also put an end to the Beth Din?

trying to erase European/westerners pride, history and culture.
-Who is doing this? We have just celebrated sporting achievement in the Olympic Games, are about to do it again for Paralympians, in a movement that began in Europe; and we are half-way through the BBC Proms that is as glorious a celebration of the European classical music tradition as you can get. Have the programmes on the centenary of the First World War ridiculed and abused 'Europe' and the 'West' because of who we are?

Create hate towards Israel and the West and everything white as if we had nothing good when we are a pinnacle of freedom.
--People criticize Israel from different angles and because of their own agenda, there is no single campaign to 'demonize' Israel and you may know that the most savage critics of Israel are -Israelis who take the view that the occupation of the West Bank that has been illegal since it began in 1967 has been a catastrophe for Israel. You should also know that to merge Israel as a Jewish state with the debate on hating 'everything white' is a contradiction as David Duke, one of Donald Trump's most energetic supporters and a 'former' 'Grand Wizard' of the Ku Klux Klan has pointed out that Jews are not white, and do not belong in the USA but in the Middle East where (he says) they came from. When asking 'who hates the Jews' you might not like the answer and you might also want to be careful who you support in elections whether it is Donald J. Trump or Marine le Pen.

Leftist lunatics has hijacked the word Liberal, years left wing brainwashing and endless immigration trying to tip the vote balance to their side. Look how whites are treated in black majority countries, no equality, yet here we are all equal, yet here they complain.
--In the UK the left has never used the word Liberal other than as a term of abuse, but tends to use words like 'Socialism' -you may have heard of Jeremy Corby, look at what he actually says. How does the 'left' brainwash people when the left has never been in power with the power to brainwash anyone? The most influential language in the media in the last 40 years has been created by Rupert Murdoch who may be a 'free market liberal' in economic terms, but has been an extreme conservative in all other policy areas -and just as the UK has elected one conservative government after another, where has all his alleged 'leftist' rhetoric come from and why has it been such a failure with the Labour Party at its weakest since the 1930s?

The people are revolting, Europeans want their pride, culture and lives back, we do not want islamism or sharia law.
-Europe never lost its pride, it has never lost its culture, and is not going to be 'ruled' by Shari'a law. On the other hand, you might want to ask why some people are do determined to deny that Islam has had any positive impact on European culture, as if European culture grew and matured completely separate from the ancient Empires of Egypt and Persia as well as Greece and Rome. If you try hard enough, you will see so many common interests and so many shared traditions -in music and literature, in science and mathematics, that you may realise that this 'Great Fear' has been manufactured by people who want to deny the reality of the world they live in, and re-shape it to suit their own monochrome ambitions.

Ultimately, you can trash the truth in support of politics, but that is bad politics, and nothing good ever came of it, but history shows that when lies rule in politics, many have died, and many more suffered. Like Donald J. Trump it is you who has nothing good to say abut the world we live in, a world that for all its flaws and contradictions has improved the life chances of people from all backgrounds.
You may oppose laws that make discrimination on the grounds of colour and sexuality illegal, I support them. You may be opposed to the visibility of transgendered performers on mainstream tv, I support it. You may be appalled to see a Black man in the White House -I think it is a good thing. What we have achieved in the last 60 years is greater than what you claim we have lost. In fact, it is only because a small clique of people already very rich have lost the guaranteed access to power that they used to consider their birthright, that they are campaigning to take rights away from so-called 'minorities' and hoard it for themselves.
As someone from a 'minority' within a 'minority' I cannot understand why you join forces with the very people who want to send you back to the ghetto you emerged from, crushing your freedom and your identity at the same time.

[Lauren_prado]

...deny that Islam has had any positive impact on European culture, as if European...

Are you kidding me? Your brain has been completely eaten by the regressive leftist islamist apologist media propaganda machine in Islamic Republic of Sweden.

I have chills just by reading the things you write, the more you write the more I see what's wrong with this world, you defend things that are causing enormous divisions in our society, destroying it from the inside out, yet blind to see it, instead make comparisons to other religions like if Buddhist were flying planes into buildings and Christians were beheading those who leave Christianity. I'm an Atheist and I despise all religions, but not equally because they are not equally dangerous. You can't see the two sides of the coin, you completely brainwashed. I was a liberal and I follow liberal media as right wing media and I can see how people new age of liberals are completely brainwashed to one world view only.

Your insane narrative of denial of reality with political correctness, cultural relativism, apologist to Islamism, is going to destroy the free world, extinct Europeans in our own lands. People like you are traitors of western civilization, traitors of the free world, you need to be held accountable. Now you can get away with it, but when Europeans finally wake up from this cancer, you wont.

[flabbybody]

Stavros says Lauren is appalled that a black man is President.
Lauren says Stavros is a traitor of western civilization.
You're both guilty of miscaracterizing each other.

[holzz]

islam's positive effect is that we know what shit to avoid.....

[Stavros]

Stavros says Lauren is appalled that a black man is President.
Lauren says Stavros is a traitor of western civilization.
You're both guilty of miscaracterizing each other.

I may be wrong in Lauren's case as I don't know her or what she thinks of Obama as President, but on the platform she supports you will find the people who do believe what I claimed, just as Marine le Pen may try to repudiate her father's outrageous and offensive comments over the years yet many of her supporters approved and still approve of them, just as supporters of Donald Trump believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim.

[Stavros]

Are you kidding me? Your brain has been completely eaten by the regressive leftist islamist apologist media propaganda machine in Islamic Republic of Sweden.

I have chills just by reading the things you write, the more you write the more I see what's wrong with this world, you defend things that are causing enormous divisions in our society, destroying it from the inside out, yet blind to see it, instead make comparisons to other religions like if Buddhist were flying planes into buildings and Christians were beheading those who leave Christianity. I'm an Atheist and I despise all religions, but not equally because they are not equally dangerous. You can't see the two sides of the coin, you completely brainwashed. I was a liberal and I follow liberal media as right wing media and I can see how people new age of liberals are completely brainwashed to one world view only.

Your insane narrative of denial of reality with political correctness, cultural relativism, apologist to Islamism, is going to destroy the free world, extinct Europeans in our own lands. People like you are traitors of western civilization, traitors of the free world, you need to be held accountable. Now you can get away with it, but when Europeans finally wake up from this cancer, you wont.

The difference between us can be seen quite easily in the difference between facts and opinion. In a 'post-truth' world you are free to take the view that 'everything is a matter of opinion', that experts are a waste of time, and that measuring the population of Malmo gives you a Muslim majority because 'the Islamic republic of Sweden' is what you see, even if it is not there.

But facts do matter, because however many lies are told and allegations made and smears broadcast, all to get votes, in power politicians have to deal with facts and figures to make policy, all that boring stuff that doesn't sell newspapers or encourage idiots to write to newspapers or forums to tell us climate change is a hoax and that because of of political correctness the world is about to end.

You make an exception of Islam because you have to, it is irrelevant to you what the facts are, just as you use the example of 9/11 to prove the wickedness of Islam is unique as if Buddhism had played no role in Pearl Harbour and the deaths of millions in the Pacific region between 1910-1945. This is the relativism that you use to exempt or downgrade past crimes to privilege Islam, and many more examples could be given. And just as you refuse to engage with the facts of history, let alone rival interpretations, you simply ignore what I said about political correctness and the extent to which you have benefited from it, just as you are in denial that the politicians you support think you are as much a part of the problem as an Islamic extremist or a socialist, or a climate change scientist.

It is hard to argue with someone who approaches politics from a perspective informed by prejudice rather than analysis. There is an argument to be made about the state taking too much responsibility for the economy, that the 'state capitalism' of the EU should be replaced by free markets, that trade deals should be negotiated between firms and entrepreneurs rather than governments, that taxes should be abolished, along with state-funded health care and education. I don't agree with them, but they are valid arguments and this is what should be part of the debate that concerns the impact of Brexit on both the UK and the rest of the EU.

Being obsessed with the fringe of a minority as if they ruled the world gives to Daesh and its acolytes a status they neither have nor deserve, and does suggest that obsessions are not good for political debate, as they take away the balanced judgements that are required.

[Lauren_prado]

Barack Obama is not a Muslim but indeed has Kenyan blood roots and he was indeed a Muslim at younger age, many of his relatives still are muslims.

That probably explains his love for this barbaric ideology destroying the world.

Deny Obama is called Barack, is the same as denying his muslims roots.

Marine LePen will be France next president, the France will be Muslim majority by 2100, only her can put a stop at this leftist madness, the French people want her, they will have her.

Islamic Republic of Sweden is lost beyond recovery.

[hippifried]

Gotta do something about all this ismism poisoning our precious bodily fluids.

[trish]

It's all about Purity Of Essence :)

[Ben in LA]

Barack Hussein = blessed + handsome/beautiful

Calling him by his first or middle name isn't an insult; it's a compliment. He probably thanks his haters for that.

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