A few things from a new guy

[Teddy P.]

What's up my fellow hung Angelers? Long time lurker that decided to join the fun.

1. I have never been with a ts woman, but I might one day if the right opportunity/girl presents itself/herself. I will survive though if it never happens.

2. I do not and will not pay for sex. I'm a pretty decent looking brotha, and get plenty of gg ass. I may never come across a ts without paying, but I'm alright with that. If it happens it happens.

3. I am top only. There is nothing going in or around my ass. EXIT ONLY! I don't understand why someone would want to be a ts just to bang harry man ass all day, but to each his/her own. You probably should of just remained a gay guy though.

4. I like feminine and passable ts women. Some of these dudes on here kill me. In the words of my man Freddy; as long as it has a big dick and long hair these dudes are on all fours.

I have been a member of this site long enough to know what happens next. Hello and Flame Away!

[Prospero]

Not quite your first post, I see... but welcome. Living where you do there are clubs aplenty in your state (especially further south in Miami - I know its, like, four hour's drive) where you should be able to meet nice girls without paying. Go for it and have fun. (I assume there is a TS theme park in orlando yet! Gotta come surely) Good luck and welcome aboard

[robertlouis]

You're probably right in anticipating the flaming, Teddy!

Another warm welcome from the UK

[Willie Escalade]

I loved your album "Life Is A Song Worth Singing"...

[dderek123]

Welcome Teddy. I enjoy your music.

Life is short. Go have your first TS experience. You don't have to pay for it. Wear a condom.

[0utrageousss]

You guys these days are really gassed. A TS woman doesn't transition just to sleep with men, top or bottom. Sure there may be some that do for money or attention but they are not true transsexuals. We don't do it just to have sex with you... I haven't had sex off camera in over a year sooo.

[MdR Dave]

. . . I haven't had sex off camera in over a year sooo.

Sooooo, wanna go to dinner?

[EvonRose]

You guys these days are really gassed. A TS woman doesn't transition just to sleep with men, top or bottom. Sure there may be some that do for money or attention but they are not true transsexuals. We don't do it just to have sex with you... I haven't had sex off camera in over a year sooo.

I agree.... at times I fell that some men need to back the fuck off because I almost feel suffocated by the constant horniness and it gets irritating...

[giovanni_hotel]

http://rodonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/27/2008_03_27_teddy_pendergrass.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UURsFGI0ahk/S08tyRWAlaI/AAAAAAAAR24/JiCbRS9b4Aw/s400/ts-tenika+watson.jpeg

Teddy Pendergrass, obviously the dude in your avy, became a quadriplegic in a car accident with his FAVE tranny girl(above; Tenika Watson)riding shot gun. Apparently she made it out okay.

Big mistake thinking TGs are gay men in a state of extreme drag.

Topping/bottoming really has nothing to do with a trans-woman's gender identity, just like a GG wearing a strapon and mounting her BF doesn't make her a 'man'.

Have fun, Teddy P.
Think you would have made your official intro from a more enlightened POV considering you've been watching the pyrotechnics on HA from the sidelines for so long. But anyway, good luck with that.

[FreddieGomez]

bwahahahahahaa

i believe it's better to just look and not touch.

[SirCumsAlot]

ha big Teddy! You came back from the dead! You pulling a Tupac on us?

[Silcc69]

Wow this was a great post. And I see we have another brotha up in here.

[SirCumsAlot]

Wow this was a great post. And I see we have another brotha up in here.

u must be:

http://sixmeatbuffet.com/images/bigsby.jpg


or


http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/34563_135202769844933_130204867011390_233392_59501 23_n.jpg

[Silcc69]

u must be:

http://sixmeatbuffet.com/images/bigsby.jpg


or


http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/34563_135202769844933_130204867011390_233392_59501 23_n.jpg

Uhm what?

[Bobby Domino]

Teddy Pendergrass, obviously the dude in your avy, became a quadriplegic in a car accident with his FAVE tranny girl(above; Tenika Watson)riding shot gun.


You learn something everyday



Big mistake thinking TGs are gay men in a state of extreme drag.


I don't understand why someone would want to be a ts just to bang harry man ass all day, but to each his/her own. You probably should of just remained a gay guy though.

I have been a member of this site long enough to know what happens next. Hello and Flame Away!


Let the games begin!!!

[OmarZ]

You learn something everyday







Let the games begin!!!

Tenika Watson, A 60 year old Tgirl wow!

http://assets.matchbin.com/sites/357/assets/7E25_FP_Tenika_Watson_bySuziNash.jpg



and looks like a regular person! Not some awfull plastic surgery mess...

[Teddy P.]

You guys these days are really gassed. A TS woman doesn't transition just to sleep with men, top or bottom. Sure there may be some that do for money or attention but they are not true transsexuals. We don't do it just to have sex with you... I haven't had sex off camera in over a year sooo.

I probably worded that wrong. I'm not saying a ts transitions just to sleep with men. I'm saying why transition to be accepted as a woman. Then to turn around and bang gay guys in the booty. If you are doing it for money fine. If you are doing it in your personal life because you like it well I'm going to have to call bs on you being a real ts.


http://rodonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/27/2008_03_27_teddy_pendergrass.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UURsFGI0ahk/S08tyRWAlaI/AAAAAAAAR24/JiCbRS9b4Aw/s400/ts-tenika+watson.jpeg

Teddy Pendergrass, obviously the dude in your avy, became a quadriplegic in a car accident with his FAVE tranny girl(above; Tenika Watson)riding shot gun. Apparently she made it out okay.

Big mistake thinking TGs are gay men in a state of extreme drag.

Topping/bottoming really has nothing to do with a trans-woman's gender identity, just like a GG wearing a strapon and mounting her BF doesn't make her a 'man'.

Have fun, Teddy P.
Think you would have made your official intro from a more enlightened POV considering you've been watching the pyrotechnics on HA from the sidelines for so long. But anyway, good luck with that.

Yeah I knew that little fact about Teddy. That's why I decided to use him as my screen name, and in my avy.

I did not say tg's are gay men in an extreme state of drag. However, I do think some are gay men that use the whole "I'm a ts woman angle" just to bang so called straight men in the ass. There are ts that I believe are very much so women as well. You can tell by the way they walk, talk, and carry themselves in the bedroom. Aka not acting like a man.

If a gg puts on a strap-on and mounts her husband it might not make her a man, but it definitely makes her husband a woman.


bwahahahahahaa

i believe it's better to just look and not touch.

I'm starting to think the same thing. Like I said I will be alright if it never happens. I'm the type of person that just goes with the flow.

[OmarZ]

I probably worded that wrong. I'm not saying a ts transitions just to sleep with men. I'm saying why transition to be accepted as a woman. Then to turn around and bang gay guys in the booty. If you are doing it for money fine. If you are doing it in your personal life because you like it well I'm going to have to call bs on you being a real ts.



Yeah I knew that little fact about Teddy. That's why I decided to use him as my screen name, and in my avy.

I did not say tg's are gay men in an extreme state of drag. However, I do think some are gay men that use the whole "I'm a ts woman angle" just to bang so called straight men in the ass. There are ts that I believe are very much so women as well. You can tell by the way they walk, talk, and carry themselves in the bedroom. Aka not acting like a man.

If a gg puts on a strap-on and mounts her husband it might not make her a man, but it definitely makes her husband a woman.



I'm starting to think the same thing. Like I said I will be alright if it never happens. I'm the type of person that just goes with the flow.

Indeed, lots of TS do it to get more men

[FreddieGomez]

I probably worded that wrong. I'm not saying a ts transitions just to sleep with men. I'm saying why transition to be accepted as a woman. Then to turn around and bang gay guys in the booty. If you are doing it for money fine. If you are doing it in your personal life because you like it well I'm going to have to call bs on you being a real ts.



Yeah I knew that little fact about Teddy. That's why I decided to use him as my screen name, and in my avy.

I did not say tg's are gay men in an extreme state of drag. However, I do think some are gay men that use the whole "I'm a ts woman angle" just to bang so called straight men in the ass. There are ts that I believe are very much so women as well. You can tell by the way they walk, talk, and carry themselves in the bedroom. Aka not acting like a man.

If a gg puts on a strap-on and mounts her husband it might not make her a man, but it definitely makes her husband a woman.



I'm starting to think the same thing. Like I said I will be alright if it never happens. I'm the type of person that just goes with the flow.

Not to cause a race war, but i dont know any sistas or latina women who would fuck their men in the ass with a strap-on, let alone a nigga agree to that bullshit. That's a no-no in the black community. That's mostly a white dude thing anyway.

But i agree, why be a tranny if you just want to fuck dudes in the ass all day? fuck outta here.

[EvonRose]

Not to cause a race war, but i dont know any sistas or latina women who would fuck their men in the ass with a strap-on, let alone a nigga agree to that bullshit. That's a no-no in the black community. That's mostly a white dude thing anyway.

But i agree, why be a tranny if you just want to fuck dudes in the ass all day? fuck outta here.

No Freddie, many black guys bottom! I know this for a fact and I have proof from friends and when i'm out and about in clubs in NYC, SF, Chicago, and LA i have many black guys coming to me and asking if i'm a top. I say ummm sweetie do I look like a top to you? all this, does not go there.

[loveboof]

I agree.... at times I fell that some men need to back the fuck off because I almost feel suffocated by the constant horniness and it gets irritating...

Words = 'suffocated' / 'irritating'

Actions = post new pic of your hot self in bikini

[FreddieGomez]

No Freddie, many black guys bottom! I know this for a fact and I have proof from friends and when i'm out and about in clubs in NYC, SF, Chicago, and LA i have many black guys coming to me and asking if i'm a top. I say ummm sweetie do I look like a top to you? all this, does not go there.

maybe they want to know because so many trannies say they're tops.

[Teddy P.]

No Freddie, many black guys bottom! I know this for a fact and I have proof from friends and when i'm out and about in clubs in NYC, SF, Chicago, and LA i have many black guys coming to me and asking if i'm a top. I say ummm sweetie do I look like a top to you? all this, does not go there.

Nah you don't look like a top. Those black guys that came up to you were gay men.

[loveboof]

i dont know any sistas or latina women who would fuck their men in the ass with a strap-on, let alone a nigga agree to that bullshit. That's a no-no in the black community.


Yeah, cos there are no black gay dudes.

Oh wait a minute... you're talking shit (again)

[EvonRose]

maybe they want to know because so many trannies say they're tops.

oh no sweetie! I know a raging bottom when i meet one, I see them in all race. I date only tops because like you said i did not successfully transition to play a man in bed. I am a feminine woman, and i submit to my man. I'm a cook in the kitchen, a maid in the house and a porn star in bed. ALL WOMAN!

[Teddy P.]

oh no sweetie! I know a raging bottom when i meet one, I see them in all race. I date only tops because like you said i did not successfully transition to play a man in bed. I am a feminine woman, and i submit to my man. I'm a cook in the kitchen, a maid in the house and a porn star in bed. ALL WOMAN!

My type of girl.

[Silcc69]

oh no sweetie! I know a raging bottom when i meet one, I see them in all race. I date only tops because like you said i did not successfully transition to play a man in bed. I am a feminine woman, and i submit to my man. I'm a cook in the kitchen, a maid in the house and a porn star in bed. ALL WOMAN!

Ah that sounds like the perfect lady.

[Dino Velvet]

I date only tops because like you said i did not successfully transition to play a man in bed. I am a feminine woman, and i submit to my man. I'm a cook in the kitchen, a maid in the house and a porn star in bed. ALL WOMAN!

I can speak for many White Devils here saying this is exactly what we want. She's even Asian too.

[0utrageousss]

I probably worded that wrong. I'm not saying a ts transitions just to sleep with men. I'm saying why transition to be accepted as a woman. Then to turn around and bang gay guys in the booty. If you are doing it for money fine. If you are doing it in your personal life because you like it well I'm going to have to call bs on you being a real ts.



Yeah I knew that little fact about Teddy. That's why I decided to use him as my screen name, and in my avy.

I did not say tg's are gay men in an extreme state of drag. However, I do think some are gay men that use the whole "I'm a ts woman angle" just to bang so called straight men in the ass. There are ts that I believe are very much so women as well. You can tell by the way they walk, talk, and carry themselves in the bedroom. Aka not acting like a man.

If a gg puts on a strap-on and mounts her husband it might not make her a man, but it definitely makes her husband a woman.



I'm starting to think the same thing. Like I said I will be alright if it never happens. I'm the type of person that just goes with the flow.


I like to fuck guys in the ass sometimes, so what are you suggesting? I've been a woman since I was 14, hormones since then... who are YOU to define my Gender based on what I like sexually on occasion? What about females who fuck men with strapons, do you call into question the validity of their gender? The problem with you guys is that your so hypersexed and obsessed with cock that you don't even know the facts, on any level. Get a fucking clue dude.

[onmyknees]

LMFAO....just let Freddie revel in his utter ignorance. He's in his comfort zone. I swear last week he told someone he wasn't even black. Some time ago he told us he doesn't even know any white folks....but he seems to know all about white dudes sexual proclivities. He likes Trans women, but has an aversion to certain body parts...( huh ?) He's the most confused conflicted dude I have ever encountered virtually or otherwise. He's a young Fred Sanford minus the gray hair and pick up truck. He humors me.

[Dino Velvet]

Nice meeting you, Teddy. No, no need to get up. :cheers:

[Teddy P.]

I like to fuck guys in the ass sometimes, so what are you suggesting? I've been a woman since I was 14, hormones since then... who are YOU to define my Gender based on what I like sexually on occasion? What about females who fuck men with strapons, do you call into question the validity of their gender? The problem with you guys is that your so hypersexed and obsessed with cock that you don't even know the facts, on any level. Get a fucking clue dude.


I'm not suggesting anything. Fuck all the gay dudes you want.

I already spoke on what I thought about females that fuck their men with strap-ons. That shit does not go on in "heterosexual" relationships.

I can assure you I am not obsessed with cock. I have never been with a ts, and really don't care if I ever do. I am attracted to femininity whether it be a gg or ts.

[Teddy P.]

Nice meeting you, Teddy. No, no need to get up. :cheers:

What up Dino? Greetings man.

[Dino Velvet]

What up Dino? Greetings man.

Back at 'ya. :cheers:

[NewAgain]

loser

[Debra]

Well Teddy. If you are on here to make some friends, you are off to a bad start. Your idea of what a TS is, is sooooo out of touch with reality. You haven't a clue of what a Transperson is. And with your lack of knowledge on the subject, don't expect to make many friends here. This is a site dedicated to TS girls. And we don't need yet another jive ass punk telling us who and what we are.

I don't know about the other girls, but I SMELL A TROLL.

[Tepres]

Nah you don't look like a top. Those black guys that came up to you were gay men.

I'm not a top or bottom because I don't have sex with shemales in real life. Not into the strap on stuff or anal toys either. After reading all the drama on these boards, I've come to the conclusion that I'm better off sticking with GGs. Hard to leave this forum though, it's too entertaining.

I haven't known too many gay people in real life. It's my understanding from reading this forum that some gay dudes are tops only? Also don't forget that even if you only fuck shemales in the ass, it's all still considered gay sex outside of Trannyville. Personally, I don't judge. We've had guys here in the past who've claimed to be all about the ass and tops only. Only to later learn that they did enjoy the cock on the dl. We've seen the pics to prove it.

If you really are new and not someone's alt account, the best piece of advice I can give you is to never pass a tranny a picture of yourself in PM, that you wouldn't want to see posted on the forum. lol Because the first time you get into a heated argument with either her, or one of her friends, that picture is gonna become everyone's business. lmao

[EvonRose]

I'm not a top or bottom because I don't have sex with shemales in real life. Not into the strap on stuff or anal toys either. After reading all the drama on these boards, I've come to the conclusion that I'm better off sticking with GGs. Hard to leave this forum though, it's too entertaining.

I haven't known too many gay people in real life. It's my understanding from reading this forum that some gay dudes are tops only? Also don't forget that even if you only fuck shemales in the ass, it's all still considered gay sex outside of Trannyville. Personally, I don't judge. We've had guys here in the past who've claimed to be all about the ass and tops only. Only to later learn that they did enjoy the cock on the dl. We've seen the pics to prove it.

If you really are new and not someone's alt account, the best piece of advice I can give you is to never pass a tranny a picture of yourself in PM, that you wouldn't want to see posted on the forum. lol Because the first time you get into a heated argument with either her, or one of her friends, that picture is gonna become everyone's business. lmao

very true, indeed many gay men are tops only. Its the sexuality aspect of it, you can fuck anyones ass weather male or female... I am talking about the men that would still date after my srs and that only leaves about hmmm 10 percent of the men here to stay with me...

[robertlouis]

Hmmm. This thread is yet another example that any subject on HA can all too easily be diverted into one or other of the two most popular sub-categories on HA - guys questioning their own sexuality (am I gay?) or the equally tiresome accusations that others are somehow gay (you gay, biatch!).

My god but it's predictable. It's obviously too much to hope that we might be over it by now.

[onmyknees]

Hmmm. This thread is yet another example that any subject on HA can all too easily be diverted into one or other of the two most popular sub-categories on HA - guys questioning their own sexuality (am I gay?) or the equally tiresome accusations that others are somehow gay (you gay, biatch!).

My god but it's predictable. It's obviously too much to hope that we might be over it by now.


Wow...kinda jaded on the whole HA thing tonight...eh? I sense a
hiatus coming. lmao. You can't take this shit too serious man.....

What would you like to discuss RL ?

[maaarc]

very true, indeed many gay men are tops only. Its the sexuality aspect of it, you can fuck anyones ass weather male or female... I am talking about the men that would still date after my srs and that only leaves about hmmm 10 percent of the men here to stay with me...


I wouldn't care what you had between your legs Evon, you are a very rare individual - literally one in 10,000,000 your beauty on the surface is only eclipsed by the kindness and beauty you possess in your heart - holy shite I gotta get a grip I'm starting to sound like RL :) no where near as eloquent but....:party:

[loveboof]

I like to fuck guys in the ass sometimes, so what are you suggesting? I've been a woman since I was 14, hormones since then... who are YOU to define my Gender based on what I like sexually on occasion? What about females who fuck men with strapons, do you call into question the validity of their gender? The problem with you guys is that your so hypersexed and obsessed with cock that you don't even know the facts, on any level. Get a fucking clue dude.

I can't work out of Ashley is really cool or not?...?

Everyone knows she's insanely hot, and I thought she might have been a sweetheart after reading her interview with Caramel - but cant decide.

I understand that she won't be too bothered either way what some random Internet dude thinks of her, but I want to like her...

[maaarc]

but I want to like her...
then why not like her and not worry about the rest ? just a suggestion Boof

[loveboof]

then why not like her and not worry about the rest ? just a suggestion Boof

And it's a good suggestion marc :) , but I've seen her be a bit harsh on here too - and I'm trying to work out of she just doesn't really give a fuck (which could be cool), or if she's cute but kinda antagonistic...

[fred41]

What's up my fellow hung Angelers? Long time lurker that decided to join the fun.

1. I have never been with a ts woman, but I might one day if the right opportunity/girl presents itself/herself. I will survive though if it never happens.

2. I do not and will not pay for sex. I'm a pretty decent looking brotha, and get plenty of gg ass. I may never come across a ts without paying, but I'm alright with that. If it happens it happens.

3. I am top only. There is nothing going in or around my ass. EXIT ONLY! I don't understand why someone would want to be a ts just to bang harry man ass all day, but to each his/her own. You probably should of just remained a gay guy though.

4. I like feminine and passable ts women. Some of these dudes on here kill me. In the words of my man Freddy; as long as it has a big dick and long hair these dudes are on all fours.

I have been a member of this site long enough to know what happens next. Hello and Flame Away!


So what is it about you that should/would want to make a good looking TS want to have sex with you...are you willing to engage in oral sex....what if the girl says her ass is off limits to you , but everything else is Okay?

...and just out of curiosity....how do you think a TS should "get off"...or is that even important to you?

[maaarc]

And it's a good suggestion marc :) , but I've seen her be a bit harsh on here too - and I'm trying to work out of she just doesn't really give a fuck (which could be cool), or if she's cute but kinda antagonistic...

well, everyone has their moments of harshness towards others :) her motives are hers and perhaps will be forever unknown to you - she's pretty in your estimation(and mine BTW) so simply enjoy her for what she is - a beautiful young lady - if you want more then go find her :)

[slingblade]

Not to cause a race war, but i dont know any sistas or latina women who would fuck their men in the ass with a strap-on, let alone a nigga agree to that bullshit. That's a no-no in the black community. That's mostly a white dude thing anyway.

But i agree, why be a tranny if you just want to fuck dudes in the ass all day? fuck outta here.

I dont know any sistas or latina women who fuck men in the ass either that's why most of these pillow bitters love running to ts women to get their rocks off. if a tranny wants to fuck dudes I dont even know why they bother transitioning from the jump?

[0utrageousss]

I'm not suggesting anything. Fuck all the gay dudes you want.

I already spoke on what I thought about females that fuck their men with strap-ons. That shit does not go on in "heterosexual" relationships.

I can assure you I am not obsessed with cock. I have never been with a ts, and really don't care if I ever do. I am attracted to femininity whether it be a gg or ts.

Haha whatever ! By anyone elses standards in society you are just as gay by being with a ts even as a top, so sit the fuck down and shut up. You're not impressing anyone by "out-straighting" faggots. Nobody even cares, you're just perpetuating ignorance.

[0utrageousss]

I dont know any sistas or latina women who fuck men in the ass either that's why most of these pillow bitters love running to ts women to get their rocks off. if a tranny wants to fuck dudes I dont even know why they bother transitioning from the jump?

What do you stupid fucking mostly black morons do not get about the difference between gender and sexuality? Read a book! We don't transition to become mens sex toys, top or bottom. Anyone that does is just a Transvestite. God I'm sick of this argument.

[0utrageousss]

I can't work out of Ashley is really cool or not?...?

Everyone knows she's insanely hot, and I thought she might have been a sweetheart after reading her interview with Caramel - but cant decide.

I understand that she won't be too bothered either way what some random Internet dude thinks of her, but I want to like her...

I'm really a nice person, and I want to say nice things, but battling rampant ignorance, intolerance etc against my community is more important that an genteel non-threatning image. Fuck these losers who don't know shit about shit about REAL ts women and our lives. These losers actually think, that I at the age of 13 transitioned just to get cock! HAHAHA! I didn't even have sex until I was 19, and have done it about 5 times off camera and 4 times off camera, and haven't had sex off camera in almost a year. I did it all for me, not hoping for cock.

[Bobby Domino]

I'm really a nice person, and I want to say nice things, but battling rampant ignorance, intolerance etc against my community is more important that an genteel non-threatning image. Fuck these losers who don't know shit about shit about REAL ts women and our lives. These losers actually think, that I at the age of 13 transitioned just to get cock! HAHAHA! I didn't even have sex until I was 19, and have done it about 5 times off camera and 4 times off camera, and haven't had sex off camera in almost a year. I did it all for me, not hoping for cock.

This is the most inappropriate time to say this, but hearing you say you've had so little sex is such a turn-on. I'm an ape for saying that, I know, especially since it's apes who are pissing you off.

I had a couple questions about your scene on your website with the Latin guy (I don't now his name). They are a bit personal and I don't know if you would be comfortable answering them in the general forum. Would you mind of I PM'ed you? It's nothing offensive, I was just curious about a few things?

[0utrageousss]

This is the most inappropriate time to say this, but hearing you say you've had so little sex is such a turn-on. I'm an ape for saying that, I know, especially since it's apes who are pissing you off.

I had a couple questions about your scene on your website with the Latin guy (I don't now his name). They are a bit personal and I don't know if you would be comfortable answering them in the general forum. Would you mind of I PM'ed you? It's nothing offensive, I was just curious about a few things?

Sure.

[Silcc69]

Before Ashley got into porn she was such a sweet girl. Now she seems to be bitter and angry alot.

[0utrageousss]

Before Ashley got into porn she was such a sweet girl. Now she seems to be bitter and angry alot.

Angry when the validity of my gender-identitity is called into question when I say that I like to top? Yes, and I have every right to be. Why don't you start attacking the problem here, which is men and their ignorance, not our collective responses to it. Bitter? Yep, but that's not your business and has nothing at all to do with porn.

[jerseyboy72]

Ashley is not angry, she has an attitude and she speaks here mine. Having a bit of attitude is great to have. And it is really hot hearing you have little or no sex off camera.

She called me a few things before after I made rude comments. Nothing hotter than a hot girl with a little attitude .And being a brunette. Ashley must be from New Jersey.lol

[doctor screw]

Before Ashley got into porn she was such a sweet girl. Now she seems to be bitter and angry alot.

I wouldn't say it was the porn,but more of the people she surrounds herself with now. Especially,a certain self-hating person(who will remain nameless)lol

[Jericho]

:dancing:
Angry when the validity of my gender-identitity is called into question when I say that I like to top? Yes, and I have every right to be. Why don't you start attacking the problem here, which is men and their ignorance, not our collective responses to it. Bitter? Yep, but that's not your business and has nothing at all to do with porn.

Do what you do,fuck what anyone else says/thinks! :shrug

[EvonRose]

Before Ashley got into porn she was such a sweet girl. Now she seems to be bitter and angry alot.

Many women outside their real life would act this way, because many men who chase or are into ts are rude, and vile sometimes not to mention the trans with a chip on their shoulders, and the hetero world where it seems we are always attacked. We have to put a shell to keep us safe... but when us girls are together we laugh, talk, do each others make up and hair. Just look at this forum If i give an opinion about something men are so fast to attack and name call like little bitches. I bet shes a sweet girl but like me we are cautious.

[robertlouis]

Angry when the validity of my gender-identitity is called into question when I say that I like to top? Yes, and I have every right to be. Why don't you start attacking the problem here, which is men and their ignorance, not our collective responses to it. Bitter? Yep, but that's not your business and has nothing at all to do with porn.

:iagree::iagree::iagree: And of course the usual suspects will call me an ass-kisser, but you are absolutely right Ashley. The shallow self-centredness of many of the male posters in this place defies belief. But then there is a large part of male society which dismisses all women as whores and bitches anyway, so why should we be surprised?

[Prospero]

Robert - but you only want to kiss the cutest asses of the most enlightened girls lol

[Silcc69]

I wouldn't say it was the porn,but more of the people she surrounds herself with now. Especially,a certain self-hating person(who will remain nameless)lol

Well she is in Chicago now tee hee.

[muh_muh]

Now she seems to be bitter and angry alot.

wouldnt say bitter but i do remember her being rather disillusioned well before that
i suppose thats just what being exposed to all the stupidity on this board does to you

[Bobby Domino]

:iagree::iagree::iagree: And of course the usual suspects will call me an ass-kisser, but you are absolutely right Ashley. The shallow self-centredness of many of the male posters in this place defies belief. But then there is a large part of male society which dismisses all women as whores and bitches anyway, so why should we be surprised?

RL, are you in Scotland? You had a big gig last night, no? How was it?

[Jericho]

:iagree::iagree::iagree: And of course the usual suspects will call me an ass-kisser, but you are absolutely right Ashley. The shallow self-centredness of many of the male posters in this place defies belief. But then there is a large part of male society which dismisses all women as whores and bitches anyway, so why should we be surprised?

You're not an ass kisser, yer an arse kisser, dammit!
Usual suspect! :wiggle:
:lol:

[Silcc69]

:iagree::iagree::iagree: And of course the usual suspects will call me an ass-kisser, but you are absolutely right Ashley. The shallow self-centredness of many of the male posters in this place defies belief. But then there is a large part of male society which dismisses all women as whores and bitches anyway, so why should we be surprised?

Robert you do spend a shit ton of time on these boards. I mean damn you have 300 less posts than me and you have only been here for 9 months. I have been here for 4 years.

[Bobby Domino]

You're not an ass kisser, yer an arse kisser, dammit!
Usual suspect! :wiggle:
:lol:

If he kisses the ass of girls he hasn't met, I wonder what that guitar must be going through...

(starting to watch Queens Park Rangers vs Man City)

[doctor screw]

:iagree::iagree::iagree: And of course the usual suspects will call me an ass-kisser, but you are absolutely right Ashley. The shallow self-centredness of many of the male posters in this place defies belief. But then there is a large part of male society which dismisses all women as whores and bitches anyway, so why should we be surprised?

Trying to be nice to you,dude If you continue to take jabs ,you'll get a upper cut in return,lol

Ashley did start off nice,but take a look at her posts where she throws the n-word around freely,but since she a ts,everyone lets it slide.She not a nice person by any means,don't let the cockhounds fool you,they know who they are,lol.

[robertlouis]

Wow...kinda jaded on the whole HA thing tonight...eh? I sense a
hiatus coming. lmao. You can't take this shit too serious man.....

What would you like to discuss RL ?

I guess I'm becoming increasingly weary of the posters who clearly think that the entire ts world revolves around them and their lust for cock, and who seem congenitally incapable of recognising that ts girls transition for reasons other than to satisfy their juvenile masturbatory fantasies. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but it's the relentless nature of it that's so demoralising.

Then a girl like Ashley, Evon or Debra dares to break a hole in their little world and all the hate spills out. It's pathetic, predictably and depressingly pathetic.

[Jericho]

(starting to watch Queens Park Rangers vs Man City)


QPR and ManC...I'd rather have needles stuck in my eyes! :ignore:

[giovanni_hotel]

Haha whatever ! By anyone elses standards in society you are just as gay by being with a ts even as a top, so sit the fuck down and shut up. You're not impressing anyone by "out-straighting" faggots. Nobody even cares, you're just perpetuating ignorance.

Dudes still don't get this.
To the outside world, ANY man into Tgirls is a straight up faggot, period.
It's only trans-chicks who make the distinction that identified straight men who lust after them aren't by definition 'gay'.

Getting into the weeds about what is gay sex and straight sex blahblahblah is pointless.

[Jericho]

Getting into the weeds about what is gay sex and straight sex blahblahblah is pointless.

That the motherfukkin truth!

[Bobby Domino]

QPR and ManC...I'd rather have needles stuck in my eyes! :ignore:

we had Blackburn vs Chelsea & Newcastle vs Everton earlier

After QPR vs MC match (yes, the game is shit), I've got Roma vs Novara (whoever the fuck they are)

Here in America, we are resigned to watch what is offered. There an Arsenal vs W. Bromwich later in the day, but I doubt it's broadcasting live, so keep quiet

Besides the Premiership I enjoy the Bundesliga (I could have said La Primera, but the teams are not evenly matched)

Serie A is just plain crap

[EvonRose]

If it doesn't apply to you don't comment, I can respect her choices of wanting to top men, and i'm sure she respects my choice not liking to top. Why do tops need to comment or call out the bottoms? Are you insecure, lying to yourself trying to convince yourself that your more of a man? leave it alone! Because it gets ugly, not only are you offending the sexual preference of bottoms but your questioning the womanhood of t girls who like to top and trust me as a woman any man who questions my womanhood... lets just say 6 inch stilettos don't feel good.

[Jericho]

Here in America, we are resigned to watch what is offered. There an Arsenal vs W. Bromwich later in the day, but I doubt it's broadcasting live, so keep quiet

It was a good match...If you're a ************************ fan! ;-)

I support Wrexham...I've no right to be talking about football! :hide-1:

[Bobby Domino]

It was a good match...If you're a ************************ fan! ;-)

I support Wrexham...I've no right to be talking about football! :hide-1:

Wrexham, it would come to no surprise that I've never heard of that team. Any celeb footies on your team? Or is it a bunch of delivery drivers & postmen? :)

[0utrageousss]

If it doesn't apply to you don't comment, I can respect her choices of wanting to top men, and i'm sure she respects my choice not liking to top. Why do tops need to comment or call out the bottoms? Are you insecure, lying to yourself trying to convince yourself that your more of a man? leave it alone! Because it gets ugly, not only are you offending the sexual preference of bottoms but your questioning the womanhood of t girls who like to top and trust me as a woman any man who questions my womanhood... lets just say 6 inch stilettos don't feel good.

Amen girl! And it's not that I prefer to top, I prefer to bottom but I've only had sex with on man off camera who used me and lied to me so never again! I will wait until I meet someone of integrity who actually likes me. Until then, any guy who wants to hookup gets to be the bitch... and I rarely do that! But I totally agree with you.. Thanks.

[Jericho]

Or is it a bunch of delivery drivers & postmen? :)

They wish! :roll:
Still, eight games without a defeat...minor fukin miracle! :party:

[slingblade]

This is total bullshit! So TS get a pass to shit on everyone because of what some so called chasers did to them what a total crock of shit! Who gives a fuck why someone acts like a wack job if they do then theyre just a shitty person stop making up excuses for these jaded head cases already!

[EvonRose]

This is total bullshit! So TS get a pass to shit on everyone because of what some so called chasers did to them what a total crock of shit! Who gives a fuck why someone acts like a wack job if they do then theyre just a shitty person stop making up excuses for these jaded head cases already!

Well, kinda... since when does a ts actually pick a fight with you for no reason. I notice they do attack guys on this forum for saying something stupid, and you have to admit you can say some pretty stupid things slingblade, and something as stupid as questioning why a tgirl who tops would even transitioned is very very offensive, your gonna get a slap for sure! I'm pretty fair person but i'm going to side with the women on this.

And i have read a few post and im going to comment now, you offend many people not just tgirls, but men who like to bottom as well, its just not in good taste at all, just being honest..

[slingblade]

Well, kinda... since when does a ts actually pick a fight with you for no reason. I notice they do attack guys on this forum for saying something stupid, and you have to admit you can say some pretty stupid things slingblade, and something as stupid as questioning why a tgirl who tops would even transitioned is very very offensive, your gonna get a slap for sure! I'm pretty fair person but i'm going to side with the women on this.

And i have read a few post and im going to comment now, you offend many people not just tgirls, but men who like to bottom as well, its just not in good taste at all, just being honest..

Naw it ain't stupid at all you see i'm just a logical type fealla who says what's on my mind. And I suspect if this site wasn't full of ass kissers and DL Dick suckers then they'd say it too. For the life of me it just don't register why the hell on earth would someone waste their time and money transitioning and have the audacity to call themselves a woman when they like fucking gay men?

Well it might not be in good taste and maybe I was drunk when I read it but I am pretty sure you've said the same thing i've said maybe in a nicer way but trust me I know what I read Evon.

[fred41]

Naw it ain't stupid at all you see i'm just a logical type fealla who says what's on my mind. And I suspect if this site wasn't full of ass kissers and DL Dick suckers then they'd say it too. For the life of me it just don't register why the hell on earth would someone waste their time and money transitioning and have the audacity to call themselves a woman when they like fucking gay men?

Well it might not be in good taste and maybe I was drunk when I read it but I am pretty sure you've said the same thing i've said maybe in a nicer way but trust me I know what I read Evon.

I would lose the hat in your avatar...it's pretty queer looking.

[EvonRose]

Naw it ain't stupid at all you see i'm just a logical type fealla who says what's on my mind. And I suspect if this site wasn't full of ass kissers and DL Dick suckers then they'd say it too. For the life of me it just don't register why the hell on earth would someone waste their time and money transitioning and have the audacity to call themselves a woman when they like fucking gay men?

Well it might not be in good taste and maybe I was drunk when I read it but I am pretty sure you've said the same thing i've said maybe in a nicer way but trust me I know what I read Evon.

Well why do you like fucking tgirl with cocks?

Its not logical to say something without thinking it trough it just comes of ignorant, and that type of question is beyond ignorant, therefore your not at all logical but tackles and offensive to most of the women here, not me, I don't top but get the drift... So by asking that you challenge their womanhood then We they always challenge your manhood.

By definition of dl, your also on the dl its not like you would tell your mom or family you like tgirls. So all this gay guys you talk about your in the same group so if I were you stop self hating.

[slingblade]

I would lose the hat in your avatar...it's pretty queer looking.

And why are you even focused on a man's avatar you're a twink man!

[doctor screw]

And why are you even focused on a man's avatar you're a twink man!

Stop,before they paint you as the villain.Even though,it's obvious who the real asshole is here.They're ways to do things,If you stop now I'll teach you the dark arts,lol.

They love to mask every man of "color" as a ignorant brute.Evon is certainly trying to set you up as that brute.Don't focus on the now,focus on the endgame.Who cares what the other chick thinks anyway,because I heard her organization is about to take a hit anyway(secret sources,shhhh)lol

[loveboof]

I'm really a nice person, and I want to say nice things, but battling rampant ignorance, intolerance etc against my community is more important that an genteel non-threatning image. Fuck these losers who don't know shit about shit about REAL ts women and our lives. These losers actually think, that I at the age of 13 transitioned just to get cock! HAHAHA! I didn't even have sex until I was 19, and have done it about 5 times off camera and 4 times off camera, and haven't had sex off camera in almost a year. I did it all for me, not hoping for cock.

Fair enough. I'll assume you're cool from now on then :)

Seems a shame that you've become cautious (maybe even jaded) over guys because of one bad relationship. Don't lose faith in men altogether; there are some decent guys out there...

[fred41]

And why are you even focused on a man's avatar you're a twink man!

nah,..I just call it as I see it..





...cause I'm a logical type fella..

[slingblade]

Well why do you like fucking tgirl with cocks?

Its not logical to say something without thinking it trough it just comes of ignorant, and that type of question is beyond ignorant, therefore your not at all logical but tackles and offensive to most of the women here, not me, I don't top but get the drift... So by asking that you challenge their womanhood then We they always challenge your manhood.

By definition of dl, your also on the dl its not like you would tell your mom or family you like tgirls. So all this gay guys you talk about your in the same group so if I were you stop self hating.

Why do I like fucking tgirls with cocks? Do you want me to be honest here or what and tell you?

Oh i've thought it though on numerous occassions and guess what it still doesn't register and i'm glad you don't top too cause if you did your stock would plumit in my book but since you're a girl who embraces being a girl I can dig it!

Naw I wouldn't say im on the DL on the DL to me is dudes who are closet homosexual guys and if that were the case i'd be some obsessed cock bandit which im not.

[slingblade]

nah,..I just call it as I see it..





...cause I'm a logical type fella..

Evon's avatar is up and you're worried about another man's avatar? Straight up Twink Sugar Britches!

[Jericho]

nah,..I just call it as I see it..





...cause I'm a logical type fella..


:lol: I saw wot you did there!

[slingblade]

Stop,before they paint you as the villain.Even though,it's obvious who the real asshole is here.They're ways to do things,If you stop now I'll teach you the dark arts,lol.

They love to mask every man of "color" as a ignorant brute.Evon is certainly trying to set you up as that brute.Don't focus on the now,focus on the endgame.

i'm not one of the lock step nuccas bro. LOL

[EvonRose]

Why do I like fucking tgirls with cocks? Do you want me to be honest here or what and tell you?

Oh i've thought it though on numerous occassions and guess what it still doesn't register and i'm glad you don't top too cause if you did your stock would plumit in my book but since you're a girl who embraces being a girl I can dig it!

Naw I wouldn't say im on the DL on the DL to me is dudes who are closet homosexual guys and if that were the case i'd be some obsessed cock bandit which im not.

Yes be honest and come out of the closet already slingblade, your personality remind me of the DL guys back in high school that sucked each other of under the bleachers but would make fun of the open gay folks.

You have not tought it trough, your just lying to yourself, this is a case of dumb guy trying to act smart.

Believe it or not, you you are on the dl and any normal men would put you in the same category as these so called Bottom gay men. Sorry.

[loveboof]

They love to mask every man of "color" as a ignorant brute.

Almost all the black guys on this forum seem go out of their way to reinforce this (incorrect) assumption. I don't know if it's just an American thing - I know loads of cool black guys where I live, and they are nowhere near as ignorant as the guys on here...

[fred41]

:lol: I saw wot you did there!

:)....

[Bobby Domino]

Naw it ain't stupid at all you see i'm just a logical type fealla who says what's on my mind. And I suspect if this site wasn't full of ass kissers and DL Dick suckers then they'd say it too. For the life of me it just don't register why the hell on earth would someone waste their time and money transitioning and have the audacity to call themselves a woman when they like fucking gay men?

Well it might not be in good taste and maybe I was drunk when I read it but I am pretty sure you've said the same thing i've said maybe in a nicer way but trust me I know what I read Evon.

I have to interject here. Slingblade, why do you dress the way you dress, why do you have the haircut you have, why do you work out, why do you shave? Because it makes you feel good, because it's your style, because you place importance on body image, because that's YOUR IDENTITY. You feel more confident when you dress and style yourself, right. You can get any job, talk to any girl, walk tall with your head high.

Well, in a deeper, more psychological and emotional way TGs transition to gain confidence and create an identity which they weren't born with. You're lucky to feel comfortable with the body God gave you. TGs don't have that luxury, they can't go to the gym or a mall to change their gender identity; looking into the mirror and seeing a boy doesn't fit, it isn't them. Whatever level of transition that they chose or can afford is up to the individual and satisfies their level of identity which reinforces confidence to face the world and the ability to create a life worth living.

The question of sexual orientation is another issue completely and has nothing to do with appearance but intimacy, attraction and preference. If someone is born a boy but feels like a woman, that person is going to do everything in their power to appear as a woman, from clothing, to make-up, to surgeries. But that same person might be attracted to physical males -likes the way they dress, likes the way they act, likes the way they smell, likes their physique, etc. How someone identifies themselves on the inside doesn't determine how they feel - for sexual relations - towards other people.

You could say the same thing about inter-racial or inter-cultural marriages. Why would a Muslim guy be with a Asian girl? He's Muslim, shouldn't he be dating other Muslims, why is he attracted to Asian girls? Should he dress like an Asian (whatever that means), or undergo Asian surgical transition, to be attracted to her? No, you can have an Muslim identity, love all things Muslim (culture, food, religion), yet have a sexual attraction to Asian women. Who you are or who you identify with doesn't exclude you from having a relationship with people who come from a different background or from different values.

If anything it's more healthy for people of different races, cultures, religions, gender, and most importantly identities in this case, to form unions so we, as a global community, can exchange ideas & thoughts, emotions, expressions, frustrations, etc. Through this system of a true "melting/melding pot" we'll find out in the end that we are all not that different and share the same ultimate life goals - the ability to live a long prosperous life, to be surrounded by friends & family, to have a fulfilling job, to be able to enjoy life with the ones you love. That's the goal isn't it?

[doctor screw]

Almost all the black guys on this forum seem go out of their way to reinforce this (incorrect) assumption. I don't know if it's just an American thing - I know loads of cool black guys where I live, and they are nowhere near as ignorant as the guys on here...

No,you go outta your way to enforce it,hence your response.Guilty mouths speaks,so continue.lol

From what I've read a lot of UK dudes up here are outta their fucking minds,but they're a lot of cool UK people out there,lol.

[slingblade]

Yes be honest and come out of the closet already slingblade, your personality remind me of the DL guys back in high school that sucked each other of under the bleachers but would make fun of the open gay folks.

You have not tough it trough, your just lying to yourself, this is a case of dumb guy trying to act smart.

Believe it or not, you you are on the dl and any normal men would put you in the same category as these so called Bottom gay men. Sorry.

First off I ain't in no closet. I'm all man!! Evon i've watched you on this board for a min now spouting ouff and being a tease with guys who you know ain't gone do nothing but paint your toe nails and wear your panties!!

Don't get it twisted i'm a different breed of guy than the fags you went to school with and if they were sucking each other off under the bleachers then that in itself proves that they were GAY!! You'll neva catch me getting down like that!!

But umm why do I like Trannies.. Humm cause most of them got the best head game and can suck good dick.. I love seeing this big black anaconda going deep up in a tight feminine trannie and I love pounding it from da back deep and hard and sometimes seeing what appears a nice sized clit dangling and perky tits. Well there you have it!!

Evon stop bullshitting I bet if you went into a straight club most of the guys there are tyring to fuck you!

[MrsKellyPierce]

Yawn - what a bunch of BS

[EvonRose]

I have to interject here. Slingblade, why do you dress the way you dress, why do you have the haircut you have, why do you work out, why do you shave? Because it makes you feel good, because it's your style, because you put importance on body image, because that's YOUR IDENTITY. You feel more confident when you dress and style yourself, right. You can get any job, talk to any girl, walk tall with your head high.

Well, in a deeper, more psychological and emotional way TGs transition to gain confidence and create an identity which they weren't born with. You're lucky to feel comfortable with the body God gave you. TGs don't have that luxury, they can't go to the gym or a mall to change their gender identity; looking into the mirror and seeing a boy doesn't fit, it isn't them. Whatever level of transition that they chose or can afford is up to the individual and satisfies their level of identity which reinforces confidence to face the world and the ability to create a life worth living.

The question of sexual orientation is another issue completely and has nothing to do with appearance but intimacy, attraction and preference. If someone is born a boy but feels like a woman, that person is going to do everything in their power to appear as a woman, from clothing, to make-up to surgeries. But that same person might be attracted to physical males -likes the way they dress, likes the way they act, likes their physique, etc. How someone identifies themselves on the inside doesn't determine how they feel - for sexual relations - towards other people.

You could say the same thing about inter-racial or inter-cultural marriages. Why would a Muslim guy be with a Asian girl? He's Muslim, shouldn't he be dating other Muslims, why is he attracted to Asian girls? Should he dress like an Asian (whatever that means), or undergo Asian surgical transition, to be attracted to her? No, you can have an Muslim identity, love all things Muslim (culture, food, religion), yet have a sexual attraction to Asian women. Who you are or who you identify with doesn't exclude you from having a relationship with people who come from a different background or from different values.

If anything it's more healthy for people of different races, cultures, religions, gender, and most importantly identities in this case, to form unions so we, as a global community, can exchange ideas & thoughts, emotions, expressions, frustrations, etc. Through this system of a true "melting/melding pot" we'll find out in the end that we are all not that different and share the same ultimate life goals - the ability to live a long prosperous life, to be surrounded by friends & family, to have a fulfilling job, to be able to enjoy life with the ones you love. That's the goal isn't it?

This is the smartest explanation on this thread and if he doesn't get it, obviously i assume hes a drop out or his mom dropped him.

But at the same time take in consideration he may say shit to intentionally offend, in that case he will never get it, that hat might be to tight on his head.

[0utrageousss]

This is total bullshit! So TS get a pass to shit on everyone because of what some so called chasers did to them what a total crock of shit! Who gives a fuck why someone acts like a wack job if they do then theyre just a shitty person stop making up excuses for these jaded head cases already!

Who is shitting on everyone? I'm shitting on YOU because you are completely ignorant and misinformed. Why can't you grasp the basic concept that gender and sexuality are DIFFERENT things entirely. What about my friend Mandy Mitchell, she is a transsexual who prefers women, was it pointless for her to transition? Was Aunt Jemimah hitting the crack pipe hard when she was pregnant with you, is that why you can't understand simple English?

[0utrageousss]

First off I ain't in no closet. I'm all man!! Evon i've watched you on this board for a min now spouting ouff and being a tease with guys who you know ain't gone do nothing but paint your toe nails and wear your panties!!

Don't get it twisted i'm a different breed of guy than the fags you went to school with and if they were sucking each other off under the bleachers then that in itself proves that they were GAY!! You'll neva catch me getting down like that!!

But umm why do I like Trannies.. Humm cause most of them got the best head game and can suck good dick.. I love seeing this big black anaconda going deep up in a tight feminine trannie and I love pounding it from da back deep and hard and sometimes seeing what appears a nice sized clit dangling and perky tits. Well there you have it!!

Evon stop bullshitting I bet if you went into a straight club most of the guys there are tyring to fuck you!

Hahahaha GAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Do you admit that to your friends? And why do black guys always spell it "trannie" , it's TRANNY. Don't they have elementary school in the projects?

[fred41]

But at the same time take in consideration he may say shit to intentionally offend, in that case he will never get it, that queer fucking hat might be to tight on his head.

fixed it.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Who is shitting on everyone? I'm shitting on YOU because you are completely ignorant and misinformed. Why can't you grasp the basic concept that gender and sexuality are DIFFERENT things entirely. What about my friend Mandy Mitchell, she is a transsexual who prefers women, was it pointless for her to transition? Was Aunt Jemimah hitting the crack pipe hard when she was pregnant with you, is that why you can't understand simple English?
rofl!

Hello guys rather she looks like a woman or not - if you top or bottom - SHE HAS A DICK

So you have to consider yourself A) Open-minded B) BI-sexual

A straight guy would not want a transsexual under any circumstance

Top/Bottom/Post-op

ETC

[slingblade]

Who is shitting on everyone? I'm shitting on YOU because you are completely ignorant and misinformed. Why can't you grasp the basic concept that gender and sexuality are DIFFERENT things entirely. What about my friend Mandy Mitchell, she is a transsexual who prefers women, was it pointless for her to transition? Was Aunt Jemimah hitting the crack pipe hard when she was pregnant with you, is that why you can't understand simple English?

Ashley when you actually grow a dick then maybe you'll be more desirable for these twinks in here until then continue going to your neo natzi meeting low life trailer trash whore!

[onmyknees]

Almost all the black guys on this forum seem go out of their way to reinforce this (incorrect) assumption. I don't know if it's just an American thing - I know loads of cool black guys where I live, and they are nowhere near as ignorant as the guys on here...

....I don't know about that....you said it so you own it, but I do know that it's curious how many black dudes on here find it necessary to say over and over they're into Trans Women but really don't care about the gurl cock. The tough guy TOP routine...That's like saying I love GG's but am indifferent about the pussy....and they even go to lengths deflecting and telling us how white dudes are largely bottoms...Sorry but I just can't connect those dots. Somethin' about that just don't add up...if ya know what I mean. They protest way too loudly ! When these fuckers aren't sittin' in a chair behind the keyboard, I'm guessing their next favorite position is bent over that same chair !!!!! :dancing:LMAO..

[doctor screw]

Slingblade,after they destroy you,pay attention.It's gonna be quick youngin,I'll show you how it's done.

*cracks knuckles*lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

MOST MEN - that say I see you as a woman are LYING

They see you as a sexual fetish

If most "Men" seen us as WOMEN

It wouldn't be so hard to weed out the USERS

So keep consoling your delusional thinking

[Quiet Reflections]

Hahahaha GAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Do you admit that to your friends? And why do black guys always spell it "trannie" , it's TRANNY. Don't they have elementary school in the projects?
Don't lump that black guy or those like him in with me

[MdR Dave]

"Aunt Jemima"? "projects"?

That's just wrong.

[fred41]

MOST MEN - that say I see you as a woman are LYING

They see you as a sexual fetish

If most "Men" seen us as WOMEN

It wouldn't be so hard to weed out the USERS

So keep consoling your delusional thinking

Hey wait a minute!!! How dare you ???!!!

:):)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Most men into ts only see you as a woman when it's convenient for them :)

THAT'S THE TRUTH

[doctor screw]

Don't lump that black guy or those like him in with me

Dude,she called a couple of black dudes up here the n-bomb,so why are you trying to appease her???
Some dudes can't put their own existence above wanting to be liked.....

[loveboof]

No,you go outta your way to enforce it,hence your response.Guilty mouths speaks,so continue.lol


Wow, that's some pretty impressive leaps in logic you're making there.

I'm 'guilty' because I speak? lol - Why don't you re-read my post that you quoted and then get back to me about what I'm 'enforcing'.

[giovanni_hotel]

Yawn - what a bunch of BS

Co-sign.
HA is like deja vu, 24/7.
LMAO at a guy talking himself up because he ONLY fucks TGs.:salad

[fred41]

Most men into ts only see you as a woman when it's convenient for them :)

THAT'S THE TRUTH


Well, I for one am offended!!!!

It is NOT a fetish...it's a ....a....well, you know.....it's a....

...did I mention I was offended ?

[EvonRose]

First off I ain't in no closet. I'm all man!! Evon i've watched you on this board for a min now spouting ouff and being a tease with guys who you know ain't gone do nothing but paint your toe nails and wear your panties!!

Don't get it twisted i'm a different breed of guy than the fags you went to school with and if they were sucking each other off under the bleachers then that in itself proves that they were GAY!! You'll neva catch me getting down like that!!

But umm why do I like Trannies.. Humm cause most of them got the best head game and can suck good dick.. I love seeing this big black anaconda going deep up in a tight feminine trannie and I love pounding it from da back deep and hard and sometimes seeing what appears a nice sized clit dangling and perky tits. Well there you have it!!

Evon stop bullshitting I bet if you went into a straight club most of the guys there are tyring to fuck you!

That's besides the point, you can be straight, and you can be a total top. But you don't gotta disrespect people, you saying you like getting head from tgirls and fucking their ass and like watching their dick dangle makes you gay for the normal straight guys! trust me I been with enough to know they would cap your ass for saying something like that, your a faggot to them. Who are you kidding? ARE YOU FUCKING DELUSIONAL?

Your just trying to be superior here on the forum because you know in the real world that doesn't pass, your gay to them and your inferior, quit trying to make this about you and make this about everyone else. It is about your disrespect and that it. I dont care what you do my problem is how you offend people and don't realize it or take responsibility. And to you that's logical, what world do you live in?

Just cause your straight don't mean i will date you either!

[MrsKellyPierce]

Until a man is willing to be seen with you in public, introduce you to his friends, and family like any other girl he has dated - he don't see you as anything but a PIECE OF ASS

And I'm not saying you have to tell your family or friends what's up...

But if you want to sit and act straighter than another guy or more accepting than another

PUT YOUR LIFE WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS

Transsexualism for many of us is LIFE, not PLAY and FANTASY

[MrsKellyPierce]

Well, I for one am offended!!!!

It is NOT a fetish...it's a ....a....well, you know.....it's a....

...did I mention I was offended ?
lol FRED :)

[Quiet Reflections]

Most men into ts only see you as a woman when it's convenient for them :)

THAT'S THE TRUTH
If at all! I think most guys are into Ts as a comfortable way not to admit they are gay or bi to the rest of the world. It think that they think it allows them to hold onto whatever macho ideal they have set for themselves.

[Bobby Domino]

This is the smartest explanation on this thread and if he doesn't get it, obviously i assume hes a drop out or his mom dropped him.

But at the same time take in consideration he may say shit to intentionally offend, in that case he will never get it, that hat might be to tight on his head.

I was seeing that your exchanges could possibly take a really nasty spiral.
Not to save your ass -I know you can take care of yourself:) - but it was really just for my benefit. I wanted to try to put in terms where he might get it or stop asking the same questions.

You can also chalk Slingblade's comments up to lazy ignorance or instigator. Personally, I think he's more intelligent and was trying to paint a picture where I wouldn't disrespect either side. I know I have a lot to learn....

I appreciate your comment, Evon. Coming from you, that means I'm heading in the right direction:cool:

[doctor screw]

Wow, that's some pretty impressive leaps in logic you're making there.

I'm 'guilty' because I speak? lol - Why don't you re-read my post that you quoted and then get back to me about what I'm 'enforcing'.

You're proving my point right now,this is gonna be easier than I thought,lol.
That logic was so impressive,it flew over someones head.lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

Co-sign.
HA is like deja vu, 24/7.
LMAO at a guy talking himself up because he ONLY fucks TGs.:salad
RIGHT! But you have to blame ts women for this

EWW YOU BOTTOM you a fag

You aint good enough

ETC ETC

They go on about

Cause they are insecure with themselves and their bodies

It helps them feel more "feminine"

[MrsKellyPierce]

And FYI I've met plenty of bottom "ts women" who act like straight up gay men

voice, mannerisms, how they speak, and more

I would never want to be seen with them out in public with how they act at times

So again YAWN

And met top girls who are like any other day normal female

Bottoming HURTS for a lot - so many prefer topping

Not everyone is an expert at bottoming

[Quiet Reflections]

Dude,she called a couple of black dudes up here the n-bomb,so why are you trying to appease her???
Some dudes can't put their own existence above wanting to be liked.....
My point was that I can spell. I couldn't care less about her or anyone else liking me.

[yodajazz]

Naw it ain't stupid at all you see i'm just a logical type fealla who says what's on my mind. And I suspect if this site wasn't full of ass kissers and DL Dick suckers then they'd say it too. For the life of me it just don't register why the hell on earth would someone waste their time and money transitioning and have the audacity to call themselves a woman when they like fucking gay men?

Well it might not be in good taste and maybe I was drunk when I read it but I am pretty sure you've said the same thing i've said maybe in a nicer way but trust me I know what I read Evon.

There are more colors than black and white. One type of sex act does not define a person's gender or sexual orientation. For example, what about a gg woman using a dildo, on a woman or a man? Does that mean she is not really a woman? I say that she would be a woman, who sometimes gets a turn on through masculine expression. And she used it on a male, she is still sexually attracted to males.

Anyway the operating principle on this site, and the in the world is self definition. You are what ever label you chose to indentify with. Labels are just for simplified communication purposes. Sex is complicated, if you consider every experience and every turn on, in a person's life. So let people define themselves, like you should want to define who you are.

[loveboof]

You're proving my point right now,this is gonna be easier than I thought,lol.
That logic was so impressive,it flew over someones head.lol

I get what you were trying to say, but at the same time I'd still like you to re-read my original post that you quoted and get back to me...

[doctor screw]

I get what you were trying to say, but at the same time I'd still like you to re-read my original post that you quoted and get back to me...

No need,because the guilty party is still speaking to me.....lmao

[slingblade]

That's besides the point, you can be straight, and you can be a total top. But you don't gotta disrespect people, you saying you like getting head from tgirls and fucking their ass and like watching their dick dangle makes you gay for the normal straight guys! trust me I been with enough to know they would cap your ass for saying something like that, your a faggot to them. Who are you kidding? ARE YOU FUCKING DELUSIONAL?

Your just trying to be superior here on the forum because you know in the real world that doesn't pass, your gay to them and your inferior, quit trying to make this about you and make this about everyone else. It is about your disrespect and that it. I dont care what you do my problem is how you offend people and don't realize it or take responsibility. And to you that's logical, what world do you live in?

Just cause your straight don't mean i will date you either!

Hummm was I tryna to date you? don't tink so.

If we just wanna go with basics and put labels on everybody lets just for the sake of arguments drop the whole TS/TV/ or whatever you're calling yourselves and just say its a bunch of men fucking. Maybe that's the best way to simplify things? I dunno I just know I like women and TS who look and act like women if that makes me gay then fuck it.

[slingblade]

There are more colors than black and white. One type of sex act does not define a person's gender or sexual orientation. For example, what about a gg woman using a dildo, on a woman or a man? Does that mean she is not really a woman? I say that she would be a woman, who sometimes gets a turn on through masculine expression. And she used it on a male, she is still sexually attracted to males.

Anyway the operating principle on this site, and the in the world is self definition. You are what ever label you chose to indentify with. Labels are just for simplified communication purposes. Sex is complicated, if you consider every experience and every turn on, in a person's life. So let people define themselves, like you should want to define who you are.

Dude ain't no GG using no dildo on me either and if she shows up with one she's gone get kicked outta my bed quick fast and in a hurry. If she has any ideas other than masturbation then it's a wrap!

[slingblade]

And FYI I've met plenty of bottom "ts women" who act like straight up gay men

voice, mannerisms, how they speak, and more

I would never want to be seen with them out in public with how they act at times

So again YAWN

And met top girls who are like any other day normal female

Bottoming HURTS for a lot - so many prefer topping

Not everyone is an expert at bottoming

So Kelly how did it feel for you the first time you gave up the ass? :confused:

[Quiet Reflections]

Hummm was I tryna to date you? don't tink so.

If we just wanna go with basics and put labels on everybody lets just for the sake of arguments drop the whole TS/TV/ or whatever you're calling yourselves and just say its a bunch of men fucking. Maybe that's the best way to simplify things? I dunno I just know I like women and TS who look and act like women if that makes me gay then fuck it.
It doesn't make you gay but it makes you at least bi because no matter how you spin it most ts girls don't have vaginas, so being 100% straight is not an option.

[MrsKellyPierce]

So Kelly how did it feel for you the first time you gave up the ass? :confused:
My husband is a top..

I bottom..

And sex is sex - I fuck women with my hubby when we do threesomes

It's just a way to get off - everyone has different preferences and choices of what get them off

I love bottoming cause I can cum multiple times off it - where as when I fuck someone it's usually just one time..

But each feel good

[slingblade]

It doesn't make you gay but it makes you at least bi because no matter how you spin it most ts girls don't have vaginas, so being 100% straight is not an option.

So its the vagina that defines who's heterosexual..

[MrsKellyPierce]

So its the vagina that defines who's heterosexual..
Yes, yes it does lol

No total straight man - no matter how hot the girl is would want to get with a ts cause A) SHE HAS A PENIS B) She was a man at one time

It either makes you open-minded or bisexual

[slingblade]

My husband is a top..

I bottom..

And sex is sex - I fuck women with my hubby when we do threesomes

It's just a way to get off - everyone has different preferences and choices of what get them off

I love bottoming cause I can cum multiple times off it - where as when I fuck someone it's usually just one time..

But each feel good

Thanks for explaining that Kelly baby but I still didn't get the exact I was looking for but thanks! :)

[Bobby Domino]

Hummm was I tryna to date you? don't tink so.

If we just wanna go with basics and put labels on everybody lets just for the sake of arguments drop the whole TS/TV/ or whatever you're calling yourselves and just say its a bunch of men fucking. Maybe that's the best way to simplify things? I dunno I just know I like women and TS who look and act like women if that makes me gay then fuck it.

Well, that's a break through!!! I don't think anyone called you gay, or even considers you gay. We're all here for the same reason, so to the outside world, we the ones who like TGs, are GAY.

I don't identify myself like that, neither does Slingblade as he emphatically declares, and neither would any of the TGs who are looking for guys like Slingblade.
We're being cannibals attacking each other for having the same sexual preferences and losing the interest of the people we should be paying our attention to

[0utrageousss]

Until a man is willing to be seen with you in public, introduce you to his friends, and family like any other girl he has dated - he don't see you as anything but a PIECE OF ASS

And I'm not saying you have to tell your family or friends what's up...

But if you want to sit and act straighter than another guy or more accepting than another

PUT YOUR LIFE WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS

Transsexualism for many of us is LIFE, not PLAY and FANTASY

A-fucking-men.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Short n sweet....Welcome to the Insane Asylum!!!!

[EvonRose]

Hummm was I tryna to date you? don't tink so.

If we just wanna go with basics and put labels on everybody lets just for the sake of arguments drop the whole TS/TV/ or whatever you're calling yourselves and just say its a bunch of men fucking. Maybe that's the best way to simplify things? I dunno I just know I like women and TS who look and act like women if that makes me gay then fuck it.

Im talking in general just because your straight it doesn't mean ill date you, my point is everything has to be based on the guys personality and morals.

EXACTLY, so stop calling ppl gay!!!! or making that a bad thing.

[loveboof]

No need,because the guilty party is still speaking to me.....lmao

This is some proper school boy shit lol. "I know you are, but what am I".

You're saying that simply by responding to your incorrect assumption about my beliefs that I am somehow incriminating myself. Bullshit.

I think what is actually going on here is that you do not have what it takes to engage with me in a mature discussion. You are apparently not smart enough.

In my original comment, I was agreeing with you (you fucking dumbarse lol). I said it was incorrect to assume that all black men are 'ignorant brutes'. And that from what I've seen on here, most black guys are not helping that predudiced opinion (that's what reinforced meant in that context you see).

[0utrageousss]

Ashley when you actually grow a dick then maybe you'll be more desirable for these twinks in here until then continue going to your neo natzi meeting low life trailer trash whore!

Right, why are you paying attention to my dick? I thought you were a straight top? FAGGOT. FAGGOT. FAGGOT.

[Bobby Domino]

My husband is a top..

I bottom..

And sex is sex - I fuck women with my hubby when we do threesomes

It's just a way to get off - everyone has different preferences and choices of what get them off

I love bottoming cause I can cum multiple times off it - where as when I fuck someone it's usually just one time..

But each feel good


Kelly is one of the lucky ones who's found someone she can share her personal & explore her sexual life. If that's not catching a lightning in a bottle, I don't know what is

[0utrageousss]

Dude,she called a couple of black dudes up here the n-bomb,so why are you trying to appease her???
Some dudes can't put their own existence above wanting to be liked.....

And he is bashing transsexuals on a transsexual forum ! I don't talk shit to anyone unless I see other girls or transsexuals as a community being bashed.

[Bobby Domino]

So its the vagina that defines who's heterosexual..

It totally does, dude



Yes, yes it does lol

No total straight man - no matter how hot the girl is would want to get with a ts cause A) SHE HAS A PENIS B) She was a man at one time

It either makes you open-minded or bisexual

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

[0utrageousss]

rofl!

Hello guys rather she looks like a woman or not - if you top or bottom - SHE HAS A DICK

So you have to consider yourself A) Open-minded B) BI-sexual

A straight guy would not want a transsexual under any circumstance

Top/Bottom/Post-op

ETC

THANK YOU! If anyone would know it's us! Fucking delusional morons

[slingblade]

Right, why are you paying attention to my dick? I thought you were a straight top? FAGGOT. FAGGOT. FAGGOT.

what dick? :confused::confused:you'd be alright if someone tapped your mouth shut!

[Silcc69]

And he is bashing transsexuals on a transsexual forum ! I don't talk shit to anyone unless I see other girls or transsexuals as a community being bashed.

Did he call you a man or something?

[doctor screw]

This is some proper school boy shit lol. "I know you are, but what am I".

You're saying that simply by responding to your incorrect assumption about my beliefs that I am somehow incriminating myself. Bullshit.

I think what is actually going on here is that you do not have what it takes to engage with me in a mature discussion. You are apparently not smart enough.

In my original comment, I was agreeing with you (you fucking dumbarse lol). I said it was incorrect to assume that all black men are 'ignorant brutes'. And that from what I've seen on here, most black guys are not helping that predudiced opinion (that's what reinforced meant in that context you see).

Most of the blacks guys up here,haven't done anything wrong.Certain ppl(your arrtard ass,lol)hate to see black guys speak their minds.Maybe a black dude fucked your gf,who knows..lol

You've responded like a good little puppet,as well as admitting your own guilt.Of course you don't agree,because you're the guilty party(it's never fun when your the joke,lol)

Please keep me entertained:dancing:

[0utrageousss]

what dick? :confused::confused:you'd be alright if someone tapped your mouth shut!

You'd be alright if someone lynched your stinky greasy ass

[doctor screw]

And he is bashing transsexuals on a transsexual forum ! I don't talk shit to anyone unless I see other girls or transsexuals as a community being bashed.

He didn't call you the "f" word or demean trans-girls intentionally.He did so out of ignorance.What I take offense to,is the fact you were aware that he doesn't know whats hes talking about,but you felt the need to use the opportunity the spout your bigotry.

You can tell a lot about a person,by the company they keep,I'm sure you know what I mean by that.

[EvonRose]

He didn't call you the "f" word or demean trans-girls intentionally.He did so out of ignorance.What I take offense to,is the fact you were aware that he doesn't know whats hes talking about,but you felt the need to use the opportunity the spout your bigotry.

You can tell a lot about a person,by the company they keep,I'm sure you know what I mean by that.

Dont be dumb!!! He had other threads where people already told him about it, and he keeps doing it, obviously you need to fucking learn! It was not out of ignorance it was out of stupidity. Let it slide once but eh not the second or third.

[doctor screw]

Dont be dumb!!! He had other threads where people already told him about it, and he keeps doing it, obviously you need to fucking learn! It was not out of ignorance it was out of stupidity. Let it slide once but eh not the second or third.

It doesn't excuse her behavior,and who said you could talk to me,lol

[slingblade]

You'd be alright if someone lynched your stinky greasy ass

well why dont you try it needle dick???:confused::confused:

[Silcc69]

well why dont you try it needle dick???:confused::confused:

I can't resist.....

http://afroasiaticperspectives.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/lynching1.jpg

[doctor screw]

I can't resist.....

http://afroasiaticperspectives.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/lynching1.jpg

WTF Man
Hahahahahahaha

[SirCumsAlot]

I can't resist.....

http://afroasiaticperspectives.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/lynching1.jpg

nowadays alot of whites run, cross the street, or are scared when they see black people

[Bobby Domino]

.................

[EvonRose]

It doesn't excuse her behavior,and who said you could talk to me,lol

well stop posting on my threads or threads about me....lol...

[EvonRose]

I can't resist.....

http://afroasiaticperspectives.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/lynching1.jpg

Thats quite disturbing...:hide-1:

[Silcc69]

Sometimes HA feels like a:

http://www.abitofbostonbooks.com/images/klanrally_small.jpg

[SirCumsAlot]

Sometimes HA feels like a:

http://www.abitofbostonbooks.com/images/klanrally_small.jpg

I can bet every cent I have pple who would downgrade the black race on HA wouldnt dare to think twice about stepping foot into any inner city ghetto in any city

[doctor screw]

well stop posting on my threads or threads about me....lol...

Whatever you say,my HA nemesis,lol

[EvonRose]

I can bet every cent I have pple who would downgrade the black race on HA wouldnt dare to think twice about stepping foot into any inner city ghetto in any city

Stop making this a race thing, a black person wouldn't dare to step foot in an all white community either, its just not in their comfort level.

In my community In the bay Asians run the city with all their gangs and stupid crap and everyone is scared of them. Different city different strokes.

[Quiet Reflections]

Stop making this a race thing, a black person wouldn't dare to step foot in an all white community either, its just not in their comfort level.

In my community In the bay Asians run the city with all their gangs and stupid crap and everyone is scared of them. Different city different strokes.
I live in an all white community.

[slingblade]

I can't resist.....

http://afroasiaticperspectives.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/lynching1.jpg

You're a sick fuck! !

[EvonRose]

I live in an all white community.

and there are whites who live in an all black community...

[Bobby Domino]

431611

[Silcc69]

Stop making this a race thing, a black person wouldn't dare to step foot in an all white community either, its just not in their comfort level.

In my community In the bay Asians run the city with all their gangs and stupid crap and everyone is scared of them. Different city different strokes.

LOL you gotta be kidding me I have stepped foot in many rich white neighborhoods in Brentwood, Belle Meade, and Green Hills.

[EvonRose]

LOL you gotta be kidding me I have stepped foot in many rich white neighborhoods in Brentwood, Belle Meade, and Green Hills.

but its so ignorant to say something like this because just because your one of the few who do dont mean there are some whites who don't step foot in the ghetto.

You want to paint the white community as coward etc but in fact that's not the case, I have seen Asian women literally knock out a black man with one tiger claw punch.

[Quiet Reflections]

and there are whites who live in an all black community...
so why would it be out of my comfort level to go to another one? My friends come to my neighborhood all the time too. I'm guessing you were being facetious

[EvonRose]

so why would it be out of my comfort level to go to another one? My friends come to my neighborhood all the time too. I'm guessing you were being facetious

no i wasn't! i was replying to a comment below, pls read... he said whites dont go to all black neighborhoods because hes trying to make it seem that whites are scared of blacks..

[SirCumsAlot]

Stop making this a race thing, a black person wouldn't dare to step foot in an all white community either, its just not in their comfort level.

In my community In the bay Asians run the city with all their gangs and stupid crap and everyone is scared of them. Different city different strokes.


LOL!!! Where in the blue hell u get that assumption from? Why would a black person be scared to step foot into white community? Shit, successful blacks leave the ghetto and lives in the white suburban areas

[SirCumsAlot]

no i wasn't! i was replying to a comment below, pls read... he said whites dont go to all black neighborhoods because hes trying to make it seem that whites are scared of blacks..

Are you saying they aint scared of blacks? Me being mixed with black, I first hand experience the fear and change of emotion when they see a black dude enter the room... It's not ALL white people, its usually the racist ones who're true bitches in real life and them older ones who still think it's still the 1800's and think we're out to get vengeance. I'm not cracking jokes, I'm cracking facts based off of experience

[EvonRose]

LOL!!! Where in the blue hell u get that assumption from? Why would a black person be scared to step foot into white community? Shit, successful blacks leave the ghetto and lives in the white suburban areas

That assumption was funny to you right? well laugh at yourself that's the same assumption you made about white people.. its funny how when you twist it from white to black you think its funny but if its black to white you assume it right, reverse psychology sweety.... Works all the time!

[loveboof]

Most of the blacks guys up here,haven't done anything wrong.Certain ppl(your arrtard ass,lol)hate to see black guys speak their minds.Maybe a black dude fucked your gf,who knows..lol

You've responded like a good little puppet,as well as admitting your own guilt.Of course you don't agree,because you're the guilty party(it's never fun when your the joke,lol)

Please keep me entertained:dancing:

I'm happy to entertain you; it's like playing catch with downs kid. But that doesn't mean you have a fucking clue what you're talking about! lol

I hate to hear stupid people speak their mind - because they usually don't have anything worthwhile to contribute. It's just a coincidence that a lot of the black guys on this forum also happen to be pretty dumb. You included.

[FreddieGomez]

EvonRose obviously prefers white dudes

[EvonRose]

Are you saying they aint scared of blacks? Me being mixed with black, I first hand experience the fear and change of emotion when they see a black dude enter the room... It's not ALL white people, its usually the racist ones who're true bitches in real life and them older ones who still think it's still the 1800's and think we're out to get vengeance. I'm not cracking jokes, I'm cracking facts based off of experience

Your life experience sucks!!! The population of racist folks are about 8 percent and you base that assumption to the other white folks living in america? No one is scared of black people anymore I am so used to it in the city, whats mine is mine and you step on my foot I will break yours and I'm Asian... get out of here with that shit!

[TsVanessa69]

You guys these days are really gassed. A TS woman doesn't transition just to sleep with men, top or bottom. Sure there may be some that do for money or attention but they are not true transsexuals. We don't do it just to have sex with you... I haven't had sex off camera in over a year sooo.
Amen! these men when they post do a disservice to themselves. We don't really care. there is so much more available to us.
I love my dick sucked, if a man does not suck dick he will not make it in my bed UNLESS he paid. And black men suck dick so lets not even go there. Secondly dudes posting on this site don't get top shelf pussy much less top shelf tranny ass. Men are only as good as the money they put on the table before their service.

[Silcc69]

but its so ignorant to say something like this because just because your one of the few who do dont mean there are some whites who don't step foot in the ghetto.

You want to paint the white community as coward etc but in fact that's not the case, I have seen Asian women literally knock out a black man with one tiger claw punch.


WTF are you talking about?

[EvonRose]

EvonRose obviously prefers white dudes

How the hell do you know I have not dated a black guy?

[EvonRose]

WTF are you talking about?

Obviously ppl don't read. lol... sircumsalot said this I replied to his post.

[Silcc69]

Your life experience sucks!!! The population of racist folks are about 8 percent and you base that assumption to the other white folks living in america? No one is scared of black people anymore I am so used to it in the city, whats mine is mine and you step on my foot I will break yours and I'm Asian... get out of here with that shit!

Are you delusional!!!!! 8% ROFLMBAO

[EvonRose]

Are you delusional!!!!! 8% ROFLMBAO

It was a slight joke, obviously not 8, but small percent, blacks are racist too WTF. Whites are not the only one racist, i have seen more racist crap in your community, not only are you racist to other race but yours as well, living in Atlanta now i see my black friends look down on darker skinned black folks, whats that? RACISM!!!!! Look at you own backyard first before looking at the white peoples backyard...

[TsVanessa69]

No Freddie, many black guys bottom! I know this for a fact and I have proof from friends and when i'm out and about in clubs in NYC, SF, Chicago, and LA i have many black guys coming to me and asking if i'm a top. I say ummm sweetie do I look like a top to you? all this, does not go there.
black men are just as dick hungry as their white counterparts, but can't man up and admit and embrace it like white men do. I prefer a REAL man who own up to what he likes. THAT does not have color.

[TsVanessa69]

It was a slight joke, obviously not 8, but small percent, blacks are racist too WTF. Whites are not the only one racist, i have seen more racist crap in your community, not only are you racist to other race but yours as well, living in Atlanta now i see my black friends look down on darker skinned black folks, whats that? RACISM!!!!! Look at you own backyard first before looking at the white peoples backyard...
Girl you are too daymn pretty and refined to even be bothered in this mess. You know and I know and they know the real deal. Denial is not a river in Egypt

[Quiet Reflections]

Your life experience sucks!!! The population of racist folks are about 8 percent and you base that assumption to the other white folks living in america? No one is scared of black people anymore I am so used to it in the city, whats mine is mine and you step on my foot I will break yours and I'm Asian... get out of here with that shit!
Where did you get the 8% statistic? In my experience everyone is a little racist so I imagine that percentage is way higher. No one is scared of black people? That is tough to say and even tougher to back up since racism is based on fear and ignorance.

edit: just saw that you were joking and yes black people are very racist too. I'm light skinned and caught hell for it when I was younger

[EvonRose]

Girl you are too daymn pretty and refined to even be bothered in this mess. You know and I know and they know the real deal. Denial is not a river in Egypt

Thanks Vanessa, I just cant handle oall this closet People!!! you know damn well they look at cock 24/7. lol

[giovanni_hotel]

HA is soooooo ghetto lately.lol

http://stupiddope.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/slim-thug-793126.jpg

[Silcc69]

It was a slight joke, obviously not 8, but small percent, blacks are racist too WTF. Whites are not the only one racist, i have seen more racist crap in your community, not only are you racist to other race but yours as well, living in Atlanta now i see my black friends look down on darker skinned black folks, whats that? RACISM!!!!! Look at you own backyard first before looking at the white peoples backyard...

That exist because light skin people were treated better than darker skin people during the slaves days. And I find it funny that you want to get into these racism comments yet nobody has said anything about the asian folks and lord knows some of them are racist as fuck.

[Quiet Reflections]

That exist because light skin people were treated better than darker skin people during the slaves days. And I find it funny that you want to get into these racism comments yet nobody has said anything about the asian folks and lord knows some of them are racist as fuck.
Hurry up and buy

[EvonRose]

Where did you get the 8% statistic? In my experience everyone is a little racist so I imagine that percentage is way higher. No one is scared of black people? That is tough to say and even tougher to back up since racism is based on fear and ignorance.

8 percent was a theoretical thing since I doubt you met every white person in the world, you probably only met about 2 percent of the people living on this planet so you cant assume for all... its ignorant!!!

I dont fear black, or white people, or Muslims, we are all capable of doing the same things! I can guarantee you if You cut me in line id tell you to back up and move to the end of the line I don't care what race you are!

Fear does cause racism that's why some blacks hate whites, because they fear them as well as vice versa.

Blacks are not superior, and whites are neither... You both caused racism out of fear and hatred to one another. No one is above the other.

[TsVanessa69]

Thanks Vanessa, I just cant handle oall this closet People!!! you know damn well they look at cock 24/7. lolI know, the cock hungriest, loosest booty hole clients i have are NOT white, which is why these posts on HA by black men are fucking jokes to me. Savin face for the race I guess. The almighty mandingo myth has ben dying. I respect a man who admits his love for dick, cuz I love guys who show my dick lovin! If you don't like dick, stick to pussy!

[EvonRose]

That exist because light skin people were treated better than darker skin people during the slaves days. And I find it funny that you want to get into these racism comments yet nobody has said anything about the asian folks and lord knows some of them are racist as fuck.

Doesn't matter black is black, you look down on darker skinned thats racism within your race.

If you read between the line when I say whites are not the only racist I say for all races!

I am a mix Greek/ Asian I had my fair share of racist remarks on both cultures.

I find it unfair to single out one culture of being racist, when i observe and see it on all.

[Silcc69]

I know, the cock hungriest, loosest booty hole clients i have are NOT white, which is why these posts on HA by black men are fucking jokes to me. Savin face for the race I guess. The almighty mandingo myth has ben dying. I respect a man who admits his love for dick, cuz I love guys who show my dick lovin! If you don't like dick, stick to pussy!

But you did a shoot for btg but you aren't black.

[EvonRose]

I know, the cock hungriest, loosest booty hole clients i have are NOT white, which is why these posts on HA by black men are fucking jokes to me. Savin face for the race I guess. The almighty mandingo myth has ben dying. I respect a man who admits his love for dick, cuz I love guys who show my dick lovin! If you don't like dick, stick to pussy!

I hear ya... Lol keep licking and dont go on sucking!!! lol..

[Quiet Reflections]

8 percent was a theoretical thing since I doubt you met every white person in the world, you probably only met about 2 percent of the people living on this planet so you cant assume for all... its ignorant!!!

I dont fear black, or white people, or Muslims, we are all capable of doing the same things! I can guarantee you if You cut me in line id tell you to back up and move to the end of the line I don't care what race you are!

Fear does cause racism that's why some blacks hate whites, because they fear them as well as vice versa.

Blacks are not superior, and whites are neither... You both caused racism out of fear and hatred to one another. No one is above the other.
Well, all racism is based on fear and ignorance. That is not an assumption, it is a fact.

[TsVanessa69]

bwahahahahahaa

i believe it's better to just look and not touch.
yea, and don't forget, if you only look and you don't touch, dont speak on something you don't know abou. An outsider looking in -vs- a man handling it are 2 very different perspectives. The outsider looking in tries too hard and says some pretty lame ass bullshit and comes off as the ballless douchebag he really is. Closests hold clothes more now these days, its 2011.

[Silcc69]

Doesn't matter black is black, you look down on darker skinned thats racism within your race.

If you read between the line when I say whites are not the only racist I say for all races!

I am a mix Greek/ Asian I had my fair share of racist remarks on both cultures.

I find it unfair to single out one culture of being racist, when i observe and see it on all.

TY for saying that you as in I look down on blacks. When you should've said some blacks look down on others. That is why I didn't say all asians are racists. I have friends from Africa that are dark as midnight. I still fucks with them though. And for the record though of all of the black guys on here that I have interacted with jigglygmoney likes to get fucked by girls with big dicks. So you can take that info as you need.

[TsVanessa69]

But you did a shoot for btg but you aren't black.
I was PAID to do a shoot for Grooby and they posted it in BTG. I never said I had a problem with a black man sucking my dick or me fucking him in the ass. I also have no issue with a black man paying for the pleasure of my time. I'm jus sayin what black men post on HA and what happens in REAL life just ain't adding up. I'm 40, I grew up and have dealt with all races, black men liked dick on me ar 14, and they still like it on me at 40! MY FIRST blow job came from a black guy and we were teenages. I think black dudes blowin me is HOTT!

Difference between outsiders looking in-vs- men handling it!

[giovanni_hotel]

How can you be scurred of dick and be into trannies???

[FreddieGomez]

yea, and don't forget, if you only look and you don't touch, dont speak on something you don't know abou. An outsider looking in -vs- a man handling it are 2 very different perspectives. The outsider looking in tries too hard and says some pretty lame ass bullshit and comes off as the ballless douchebag he really is. Closests hold clothes more now these days, its 2011.

aND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STILL SINGLE.

BUT I MUST ADMIT THIS IS A VERY NICE PIC OF YOU

[TsVanessa69]

But you did a shoot for btg but you aren't black.
doing a PAID shoot and where the company posts it doesn't decide ones race.
I would think that was left up to my moher and father right?

[Quiet Reflections]

How can you be scurred of dick and be into trannies???
Because mentally they are women and women are fickle. never mind I thought you were talking about the girls not silcc

[Silcc69]

I'm not scared of dick at all. Hell I suck dick and I do a good job at it. With that being said I have bottomed before and it not my thing at all.

[TsVanessa69]

I'm not scared of dick at all. Hell I suck dick and I do a good job at it. With that being said I have bottomed before and it not my thing at all.
But, you did not know until you tried right??
Guys who suck dick good are a plus in my book. Fucking dudes in the ass is cute and easy money, but them men in my stable of freaky studs, they lay the pipe!

[SirCumsAlot]

That assumption was funny to you right? well laugh at yourself that's the same assumption you made about white people.. its funny how when you twist it from white to black you think its funny but if its black to white you assume it right, reverse psychology sweety.... Works all the time!

LOL! Trust me you aint pulling reverse psychology on me. Like I said, I'm speaking from facts. Me as a person, I never assume nothing without knowing I'm right. I've been in the ghetto, been in the suburbs, been around both crowds long enough to know how they act, and some white pple even told me they wouldnt think twice or is too scarred to go into the ghetto. Why wouldn't they if they aint used to it. Its a danger soon in some cities. They may drive through it, but they be damned to walk through it

[doctor screw]

I'm happy to entertain you; it's like playing catch with downs kid. But that doesn't mean you have a fucking clue what you're talking about! lol

I hate to hear stupid people speak their mind - because they usually don't have anything worthwhile to contribute. It's just a coincidence that a lot of the black guys on this forum also happen to be pretty dumb. You included.

My puppet returns,again
It's sad when they don't realize they're being controlled,lol.

If you hate to hear stupid ppl,then maybe you should shut the fuck up,lol.
The fact that a UK guy(dudes who mostly like crossdressers) happens to be dumb,isn't my fault(also,a lot of you UK lames are racist slags)lol.

You know the world is doomed when a dumb-ass,calls me dumb
Oh the irony,lol:dancing:

[SirCumsAlot]

Your life experience sucks!!! The population of racist folks are about 8 percent and you base that assumption to the other white folks living in america? No one is scared of black people anymore I am so used to it in the city, whats mine is mine and you step on my foot I will break yours and I'm Asian... get out of here with that shit!

WHAT? 8 percent!?! LOL please do tell where do u get your info from please. Trust me, racism and discrimination is alot higher than some 8 percent in america. Shit may be blinded by people like you I wouldn't expect u to know. But u not being scarred of black folks, well, great for u, I'm not on here trynna say black pple are the most feared race or whatever. I can care less if you are scarred or not, fact is, there's plenty of white folks who still are, and I originally met pple who say racist dumb shit online. Reality is a whole nother story. If u or someone else aint scarred, good for u, send me ur address and Ill send ya a cookie and a card

[EvonRose]

WHAT? 8 percent!?! LOL please do tell where do u get your info from please. Trust me, racism and discrimination is alot higher than some 8 percent in america. Shit may be blinded by people like you I wouldn't expect u to know. But u not being scarred of black folks, well, great for u, I'm not on here trynna say black pple are the most feared race or whatever. I can care less if you are scarred or not, fact is, there's plenty of white folks who still are, and I originally met pple who say racist dumb shit online. Reality is a whole nother story. If u or someone else aint scarred, good for u, send me ur address and Ill send ya a cookie and a card

learn how to read a thread, I never claim it to be a fact. I said 8 percent as a sarcastic way of saying racism isn't as commons as you folk make it out to be, you think people are against you, you cant be ignorant either and say you dont expect me to know, because me being only part fillipina I got alot of racism back in the day when I was living there. You are so victimized by the black racism thing that your blind to see many people went trough the same exact thing in different parts of the world. RISE ABOVE IT AND STOP PLAYING VICTIM!!! And some black people are still intimidated by the success of many white people so what? you both fear each other for different things get over it childish one.

Send me a carrot cake muffin, with cappuccino and raspberry tarts, I want the kind in nice cafes not some cheap NYC corner cafes... lol.. thank you.

[EvonRose]

TY for saying that you as in I look down on blacks. When you should've said some blacks look down on others. That is why I didn't say all asians are racists. I have friends from Africa that are dark as midnight. I still fucks with them though. And for the record though of all of the black guys on here that I have interacted with jigglygmoney likes to get fucked by girls with big dicks. So you can take that info as you need.

Sorry understand that English isn't my first language, I don't mean to say your racist i meant the individuals... My mistake.

[dderek123]

8% eh? Well that sounds like a reasonable estimate. I'm sure that number will get lower over time as the older generations die. When I lived in Canada it definitely seemed like that.

It's different when you live in Asia. There is a lot of racism here. At my school there is one student from India and the Thais treat her like shit just because she's Indian. This has been going on for a long time. Ever since she came to the school actually.

A mate of mine brought his Thai wife to Korea. Everytime they went on the subway some old Korean man would shout at his wife in Korean. He would say "How could you dishonor your country by marrying a dirty foreigner". Usually my friend would reply back to them saying: "She's Thai you fucking moron" in Korean.

When I got hired over the phone for a job in Korea the first question was "You're not black are you?".

In the Phillipines and China it's supposedly worse.

[Silcc69]

:wiggle:
Sorry understand that English isn't my first language, I don't mean to say your racist i meant the individuals... My mistake.

It's ok misunderstandings happen at times.

[robertlouis]

I've been out gigging all night and have just read the 14 pages (14!!!) added to this thread since I last logged in.

Bloody hell! Passions riding high.....

And the race element is essentially drawn from your experiences in the US. I don't think that we Brits really ahve anything useful to contribute. But it does sadden and concern me to see so many threads polarising into outrage and backbiting

[dderek123]

^ Same ole, same ole eh?

[robertlouis]

^ Same ole, same ole eh?

Yep. Bloody depressing, isn't it?

[onmyknees]

I've been out gigging all night and have just read the 14 pages (14!!!) added to this thread since I last logged in.

Bloody hell! Passions riding high.....

And the race element is essentially drawn from your experiences in the US. I don't think that we Brits really ahve anything useful to contribute. But it does sadden and concern me to see so many threads polarising into outrage and backbiting


You're right. Best you stay out of it ! LOL...Don't get too overly concerned however. The vast majority of Americans live, go to school, work, and co-exist next to each other and interact on a daily basis and no mass fist fights are breaking out. In fact....blacks have more to fear from other blacks then they do whites or Asians. That's just a cold hard fact. Of course there's lots of phoney cries of racism...Shit there's a racist behind every tree if you listen to the people making their living off race hustling. I got the "R" tag some time ago on here, and it was because of what I was "thinking"...not what I said. Riddle me that!
Maybe one or two of the gurls said something out of anger or frustration...I don't know, I couldn't read every one of the posts, maybe they didn't...but the dudes that talk the most shit , the tough street thugs ( at least that's the role they play on HA...LMAO) the same dudes that have no problem stereotyping whites and Asians, suddenly got all offended and their feelings got hurt. I think they call that IRONY. Those chickens have come home to roost, as they say ! lol

[SirCumsAlot]

Send me a carrot cake muffin, with cappuccino and raspberry tarts, I want the kind in nice cafes not some cheap NYC corner cafes... lol.. thank you.


I'll make sure to add some extra gooey white cream in the cappuccino. May be a bit on the salty side

[EvonRose]

I'll make sure to add some extra gooey white cream in the cappuccino. May be a bit on the salty side

*sarcastically laughing* ahahahahaha, Please do not be a comedian...

[loveboof]

My puppet returns,again
It's sad when they don't realize they're being controlled,lol.

If you hate to hear stupid ppl,then maybe you should shut the fuck up,lol.
The fact that a UK guy(dudes who mostly like crossdressers) happens to be dumb,isn't my fault(also,a lot of you UK lames are racist slags)lol.

You know the world is doomed when a dumb-ass,calls me dumb
Oh the irony,lol:dancing:

Oh dude, you don't have a clue.

It seems you're so ill equipped to interact with me on any kind of intellectual level that you're forced to deflect or ignore the content of my comments.

Prove me wrong and converse with me as an adult; but until that time you're just another dipshit.

(and you must be a fairly lame puppet master if you want me to 'shut the fuck up' - it made more sense when you were pretending to enjoy my responses)

[SirCumsAlot]

*sarcastically laughing* ahahahahaha, Please do not be a comedian...

no need to, my career pays me well enough

[EvonRose]

no need to, my career pays me well enough

Then stop trying to be funny...
The bird comparison was not cute or funny,
The duck comparison was not cute or funny,

Your just all kind of offensive!

[SirCumsAlot]

Then stop trying to be funny...
The bird comparison was not cute or funny,
The duck comparison was not cute or funny,

Your just all kind of offensive!

Who said I'm trynna be funny? I just post what pops in my mind when I read or see something, and whatever I feel like sharing. I'm not trynna anybody laugh. I'm not the comedic type. I save the comedy stuff for people like Dino

[slingblade]

I know, the cock hungriest, loosest booty hole clients i have are NOT white, which is why these posts on HA by black men are fucking jokes to me. Savin face for the race I guess. The almighty mandingo myth has ben dying. I respect a man who admits his love for dick, cuz I love guys who show my dick lovin! If you don't like dick, stick to pussy!

Total bullshit! You bitches know youre only to make a living because of all the thristy white dudes out there and really you look black so maybe its wankters like you fucking the game up.

[doctor screw]

Oh dude, you don't have a clue.

It seems you're so ill equipped to interact with me on any kind of intellectual level that you're forced to deflect or ignore the content of my comments.

Prove me wrong and converse with me as an adult; but until that time you're just another dipshit.

(and you must be a fairly lame puppet master if you want me to 'shut the fuck up' - it made more sense when you were pretending to enjoy my responses)

You have a intellectual level???bwahahahahaha
good one

Some UK cd chaser called me a dipshit,nice comeback.We got ourselves a regular Einstein over there...lol
You are good entertainment,there's no pretending here.You're the one reflecting,by thinking I'm worrisome like "you".
On a side note,I have no "off"switch..lol
Your need to respond,shows your true nature puppet
Don't disappoint me:dancing:

[slingblade]

How the hell do you know I have not dated a black guy?

PUT the crack pipe down!!!

[Teddy P.]

Lol at this thread.

I'm not telling anyone how to live their life. Once again trannies unite, and bang all the man ass you want.

[EvonRose]

PUT the crack pipe down!!!

Im not you slingblade trying to be Whitney Houston in drag.

[OmarZ]

Im not you slingblade trying to be Whitney Houston in drag.

thats so nasty and negative

[RainMan]

Smh at how quickly a thread turned into another HA full on race rant no wonder so many people just lurk cause these topics always turn into a big ol pile of shit, and then its questioned why people only post when kissing ass or while horny? Probably because simple adult conversations can't exist on the internet let alone HA without somebody being offended or insulted

[slingblade]

Im not you slingblade trying to be Whitney Houston in drag.

Maybe you're goign for the Tommy Lee in drag look? :confused:

[SirCumsAlot]

Smh at how quickly a thread turned into another HA full on race rant no wonder so many people just lurk cause these topics always turn into a big ol pile of shit, and then its questioned why people only post when kissing ass or while horny? Probably because simple adult conversations can't exist on the internet let alone HA without somebody being offended or insulted

if u wanna have a intelligent convo with someone pm them then if the threads are so depressing for u

[loveboof]

You have a intellectual level???bwahahahahaha
good one

Some UK cd chaser called me a dipshit,nice comeback.We got ourselves a regular Einstein over there...lol
You are good entertainment,there's no pretending here.You're the one reflecting,by thinking I'm worrisome like "you".
On a side note,I have no "off"switch..lol
Your need to respond,shows your true nature puppet
Don't disappoint me:dancing:

Well it looks like you failed to prove me wrong.

[doctor screw]

Well it looks like you failed to prove me wrong.

It looks like you proved me right,lol:geek:

[RainMan]

if u wanna have a intelligent convo with someone pm them then if the threads are so depressing for u

Ain't nothing bout here depressing to me this the internet so I don't give a fuck, but its still pretty dumb these threads always turn into race beefs

[EvonRose]

Maybe you're goign for the Tommy Lee in drag look? :confused:

Really sissy flava flav, you can do better than that, wow your really on crack/meth. its working your getting dumber.

[OmarZ]

Really sissy flava flav, you can do better than that, wow your really on crack/meth. its working your getting dumber.

does insulting him make you feel better?

[loveboof]

It looks like you proved me right,lol:geek:

That was predictable. The only problem is that what you really wanted was to shut me up, and you thought you'd be clever (relative term obviously), and play some basic psychology on me.

I will shut up soon though because you're boring, but my offer will still stand - any time you want to attempt an adult discussion with me I'll hear you out. Until then you're just another one of these chumps...

[slingblade]

Really sissy flava flav, you can do better than that, wow your really on crack/meth. its working your getting dumber.

Gee what was I thinking im sure Tommy is much bigger than you since youre a fillipino boy couldn't pull it off.

[MdR Dave]

Really sissy flava flav, you can do better than that, wow your really on crack/meth. its working your getting dumber.
I interrupt tonight's honky tonk to LMAO!

Look, Slingblade- french fried taters!

[Bobby Domino]

I interrupt tonight's honky tonk to LMAO!

Look, Slingblade- french fried taters!



This shit is LEGIT!!!!!

[EvonRose]

does insulting him make you feel better?

Does butting in make you tougher?

[EvonRose]

Gee what was I thinking im sure Tommy is much bigger than you since youre a fillipino boy couldn't pull it off.

Hey whatever! I'm a Fillipino boy and your a black Faggot.

[Bobby Domino]

if u wanna have a intelligent convo with someone pm them then if the threads are so depressing for u

what you looking for. big boy???? :dancing::dancing::dancing:

please don't answer that:whistle: Just jossin' witcha:party:

[MdR Dave]

does insulting him make you feel better?
Omar, c'mon- what do you have against Evon? Hopefully insulting him does make her feel better.

I'm all for these girls feeling as good as possible. Slingblade can shove that scythe up his ass.

[dderek123]

Smh at how quickly a thread turned into another HA full on race rant no wonder so many people just lurk cause these topics always turn into a big ol pile of shit, and then its questioned why people only post when kissing ass or while horny? Probably because simple adult conversations can't exist on the internet let alone HA without somebody being offended or insulted

I think they can exist. But they are extremely rare.

Now considering the fact we are on a porn forum catering to a very specific niche. In the real world TS are quite rare. In my hometown there seemed to be none that I would have anything in common with.

And so, You just get a bunch of wankers with little experience playing make-believe anonymously.

What boggles my mind the make-believe game around here involves drama, bullying, racism, ass-kissing and sweeping generalizations of other people that are offensive.

[OmarZ]

Does butting in make you tougher?

dont evade questions... answer it

[slingblade]

Hey whatever! I'm a Fillipino boy and your a black Faggot.

LOL naw faggots are the crowd you run with dear I get too much pussy.

[MdR Dave]

dont evade questions... answer it
Omar, seriously- Seriously?

Priorities, man.

[EvonRose]

LOL naw faggots are the crowd you run with dear I get too much pussy.

Oh how cute! she has a her best friend is a gay twink, pretending to be snoop dog...

[doctor screw]

These dudes is wildin out,posting real pics of yourself.That's a no,no
I'm about to turn-coat


TEAM EVON FTW.......LOL

[SirCumsAlot]

LOL naw faggots are the crowd you run with dear I get too much pussy.

Damn how tall are u? 8 foot 12?







(yes I know that equals 9feet before some smart aleck tries to correct me)